3 Things You NEED to Know before Buying an F80 M3 with a DCT

[@blendtecbrah5761]

A couple other things of note about Drivelogic; the difference in shift speed is really only apparent when you're getting after it. If you're just pootling around in traffic at low speed, it will still shift at a speed that makes sense relative to the throttle input. Secondly, it also dictates what gear it uses when in automatic mode. In D1 mode it may go as high as 5th gear at 30-some mph, whereas D3 will hold 2nd and just barely break into 3rd when you hit 31-32 mph. And uh.... 2nd gear at 30mph and 2500-some rpm (turbos locked and loaded, right on the edge of boost city) is a recipe for disaster if you're not ready for it. Speaking from experience lol

[@themadman697]

I have been driving an m2 for a year now and you have still thought me something new :D I did not know it went straight to park if you shut car off in drive. I've been stopping in neutral and pressing the start/stop button twice every time.

[@callumdaniels2672]

Same!!!

[@cpl8168]

Partly because the owner'a manual is confusing on this issue. However, I believe even straight from Drive or Reverse, you're supposed to press the Stop button twice to shut down all accessories. Or at least that's what I've been told. I press the button twice everytime on my M2. Just take your foot off the brake on the second press. lol

[@ericafrancis806]

Just bought an F80 and it’s such a learning curve. Super helpful!

[@BenitKibabu]

The switch is upon us guys, he's dropping hints

[@arnoldyao9636]

Haha I wish I saw this video earlier. I got an M4CS two months ago and every time I've accidentally turned the car off in neutral I start the car back up to put it in gear to turn it off LOL. Appreciate you making my life easier.

[@IamJewz]

Guilty of doing the same with my F87 lol, just learned something new in 2023 🙂

[@trualpha]

cant you put it in park in nuetral

[@AreaCode865]

Just bought an F82 today, wish I’d watched this first. I was perplexed 😂😂 It became intuitive after a bit of mild panic

[@kotuha]

Hi. There is another useful feature of a M DCT. If you're driving in a manual mode and you floor the throttle, the gearbox will not down shift automatically. Instead it waits until you pull the down shift paddle under the steering wheel and then it shifts into the best gear possible (even 3 - 4 gears lower).

[@telbor3378]

I watched this video a long time ago and I drove my first M4 dct the other day and remembered what you said about the missing park option! Your embarrassment made sure that I did the right thing! Thank you very much sir! And what an awesome driving machine that is!

[@pikkagtr1942]

Just buy an F80 you wont regret it I didnt :)

[@terrywilkins2289]

I couldn't agree more, I have a F83 and it's the best car I've ever owned in 30 years of driving.

[@TautBrigas]

Sure, my brain says yes but my wallet - no...

[@Motorsports_3]

I bought an e92 m3

[@ruskibruski]

@@Motorsports_3 best bmw ever with that natural aspirated v8 with hydraulic steering and not electric!!! A true enthusiast car

[@peteryeung6089]

@@Motorsports_3 .

[@Kid_Ellipsis]

Great tips. When coming from a manual to the DCT you may have to fight the urge to lift the throttle between upshifts.

[@Joe3D]

some DCTs also start rolling as soon as you release the foot from the brake, it depends on manufacturer.

[@sydneychaney8725]

Thanks for this tutorial!! First time DST driver; definitely frustrated at the traffic lights until watching this. 2015 M4 vert

[@andyhenley1651]

owned my M4 Comp for 3 weeks now and I hadn't figured out point 2 properly yet! haha. Thank you!!

[@Silentfeety]

Damn, starting from stop was exactly what I was doing, just press the gas like on normal automatic and he would lunch me so fast I hated it. Ty man, I guess life is there to learn something every day

[@Rush-zu7qx]

Great vids, Brian! Just recently bought a 2015 M4 and have learned a ton about BMWs in general from you, and now feel way more comfortable with the DCT! Definitely something to get used to. Thanks man, keep it up!

[@jeremypatino5907]

How is your m4 holding up I just bought a 2015 m4

[@iPolitely]

@@jeremypatino5907just bought a 2017 M4 competition and it’s definitely something to get use to. Still kinda confused on the shifting when I hit the gas

[@i-twenny3669]

About to buy an M3 competition and this was extremely useful. Never driven an auto so this was invaluable, many thanks

[@neeklauw]

Interesting. I had an e88 135 with DCT and it had a park button and creeped like an auto, so a lot of this seems to be programming specific to the F80. Great channel btw!

[@spartacus_tj3140]

Very educative,my first time in an M3 competition was blissful.

[@Joe3D]

Some DCT brands DO have the Parking selector for the gear lever, like Volkswagen, Audi, and in general the VAG group. Also they use to have the parking brake.

[@goran2009]

Just purchased M6 F06, thanks for the video... It all makes sense now 😀

[@seanperdue232]

I'll probably never drive, much less own an F80 M3 BMW but I gave a like due to the great information that was provided here.

[@AIDAHAR210]

I'm about to get an F80 soon and never driven an automatic car before, and definitly never a dct. So thanks for this video, so I don't have to look clueless

[@Carlife929]

Brian, I think it may be time for you to make the switch...

[@tr3ynag4ta]

I’m actually familiar with the Ms transmission, i think they are very interesting. When I park these cars, I just leave them in neutral, and pull the parking brake. The same with manuals 👍🏿 Can’t wait to get a M4!! I want some track time! Drove both, and they both are special. Especially those engine noises, very unique!

[@nimo253]

I have this habbit of throwing it in neutral before shutting my m4 off. So I start /drive gear then power off. Start button 2x. Good to know! Thanks B!

[@maximusEagle]

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[@MartyNguyen611]

I just now am finding out about the DCT after almost buying an F82 😂😂 seems like a pain in the ass I'm glad I went for the G82 in the end 😂

[@thejungatron6792]

Bryan, I agree with the comment section. Time to go f80 M3 dct... for the channel of course

[@bruceli5088]

love this channel COOL must thumbs up

[@maurosantos7233]

Very clear comments. Many thanks

[@wilfredorodriguez2916]

I just got my f80 lol so now i just have to learn on how to drive it properly at time its jerky

[@EE-uy3wz]

Thank you so much for making this video I’m about to test drive my first DCT and now I won’t be embarrassed LOL

[@justinmaary]

How did it go

[@mrkatse]

Awesome video... very easy to follow but also very informative 😁😁 now let me call my Buddy with an M3... 😅😅

[@gatoraddison]

Thanks so much. I’m considering a 2018 M4 DCT. This was a big help.

[@RaldasDetails]

Great video man thanks 🙏

[@efthimios]

Didn’t know this very interesting neat videos Brian

[@liambrown9964]

I did the exact same thing with the looking for P in my F80 on the first drive

[@andys5782]

Thanks bro totally worth it.

[@JaimeRobledodotcom]

This was a great video explaining this, I just got a BMW X5 M I was so lost thank you the info. I do see the auto H what is that?

[@godbornplus]

Wait can you explain the “Low speed assist?” So I would just tap the gas? Or feather on it?

[@MCompeticione]

Just tap it, it will starting creepin. Tap it some more if necessary like at a stop and go type of traffic situation.

[@un4zr3nalhaq88]

I like this. Very informative

[@mikebellows754]

Great vid - definitely learned something. 👍🏻

[@lifeshort]

Am I right in thinking you should be off the gas when you downshift? Think I heard somewhere it's kinder to the box?

[@iAngeL7]

I love you 😍 you answered all my questions ✅❤️ I was lost 🙈😭 thanks 🙏 🤓 new subscriber

[@cucojaramillo]

Bryan. The fact that cars fitted with M DCT don’t move forward when you’re standing without hitting the accelerator has nothing to do with not having a torque converter. It’s called the crawling function and it’s how the manufacturer programs the transmission. I’ve had Audi S3 and S4 with dual clutch transmissions and they have the crawling feature so when you let go off the brake the car moves forward. Same with McLaren which they all have dual clutch transmissions. They move forward without you hitting the gas except the LT models which they program them like this to make them resemble more like a manual transmission vehicle.

[@josephmuhlestein2666]

No it's called Low Speed Assistant. It says it right in the owners manual.

[@stevanussuwintoro4461]

Cool things to share so I am not embarrassed. Thank you

[@andygibbs3524]

Great tips love ya videos 👍

[@tng6628]

I have a F80 and Brian is on point. One of the thing about the DCT is that it can be pain in the rear a lot of time. It can guess your gear wrong and when you press that gas pedal, you would hear "clunk" because it switches the gear quickly to up shift or wise versa. Ouch! That is city driving on automatic. Now if you use the paddle, or even fully automatic in a track, it is a blast to drive. And forgot to mention that when you stop completelly for more than 1 second, it will shift to neutral even though it is showing 1 (in st gear). When you press the gas pedal at the exact time that it shift to neutral, it jerks. It is not the best feeling.

[@dragonforcejorge]

Interesting how every manufacturer DTC works, My 2018 cupra DSG on a stop light will not change to N instead leave it on 1, and decouple the clutch, aditionally, when on drive and lift up the brake the car will start moving like a normal Automatic.

[@travisricephotograph]

Do you have to activate low speed assist every time you stop like at a stop light or stop sign??

[@Izzyspeeds]

I’m about to rent an f80 for prom thanks for all the tips and help

[@supermanhlp]

Been driving an x5m for two years and I've always thought that drive logic button was a broken shade button lmaoooo

[@xxsky-wingsxxhd7311]

What does it look like on a road with an incline? Does it roll down when I take my foot off the brake or does it have a starting aid?

[@FutureGameLight]

i did not know the tap feature i will try it on the test drive i have in a few days

[@maxnix346]

Uh ... in the USA, 2011- 2013 135i & 135is were available with DCT as was the 2011 - 2013 335is, and Gertrude, they do have a Park setting in the shift pattern. These DCT do creep slightly at idle with no brake. E80/82/83 M3, F10 M5 & F12/13 F06 M6 had DCT also. Oh well, at you covered the F80/82/83.

[@S_Paoli]

What if I come to a stop but want to keep the engine running? How do I put it in P in that case? Thanks!

[@damianbrennan5912]

Thank you for the vid. I just got a F80 not long ago and it got jerky on me a few times when I give it to much gas. Im worried I’m going to brake something from when it happens. Do you know if I am damaging the engine when that happens ? Any pointers on better use of the low speed assistant and how to get on the throttle better would be much appreciated to

[@marcustegnander2832]

Alright, thanks! Now I just need an F80

[@GaryDownes]

As always, a great and informative video.

[@unrealeck]

Thought you had an upgrade for a second there. Didn't know about any of these things.

[@flyhigh2389]

1:17 “ k now you can see that D” 😂

[@Rd-bi7vr]

How do you park the car and keep engine running?

[@SlowWhip]

It took me a good minute to figure this thing out when I test drove the M4 for the first time. Even the salesman was a little confused 😂😂😂

[@KiesMotorsports]

lol, it happens!

[@gavinsloma]

1:15 whats did you mean that D!?

[@navidmahmood876]

Hey Bryan, great video as always! Learned some new stuff. I had a request: could you do a video on the different types of bmw differentials and maybe even a video on switching a F30 to a LSD?

[@chrismathews5122]

Just bought a 2018 F80 today and the only thing I knew about the dct was to leave it in gear to park it and the shift speed button.

[@MCompeticione]

Dont forget to set your m1 m2 settings lol

[@prosperero]

This clip got you a subscriber

[@tbd3755]

I have a F06 M6 Gran Coupe, which is a DCT M car by all mean, but it comes with a parking button :p

[@Al-kz8sv]

Cool I didn't know what that button was for haha until now 😅

[@verde629]

Can you park it when it’s in reverse or does it have to be on drive ?

[@voertsek8404]

Champion learnt something

[@TheTardis76]

Nice video, but DCT transmission do not have torque converters.

[@goochslayer1639]

Been saving up for a m4 for a bit & sold my n54. I like DCT but im definitely getting a manual 😬

[@BigBoss-ps6vk]

goochslayer m4 is designed with dct in mind. It’s the better choice

[@tofuyo2288]

@@BigBoss-ps6vk love my manuals but DCT just seems like the future and look super fun to drive.

[@richkoh7305]

I want that jacket ! ( already have the car :) )

[@juniorfenelon5251]

Good video brother.

[@raidenout1515]

Yeah nobody told me when I got my m2 comp . I drove an hour and thirty minutes back to my county and had to figure it out . It definitely made me feel a little silly.

[@Arthurbeaslie]

Great video

[@nicolasviray9336]

hey how come your gages are blue ? did it come like that or u had it done

[@RichardsWorld]

I'm thinking about test driving a couple of these soon. I don't want to feel like an idiot 😀

[@Ethnmoreno]

I say 6speeds are the most fun you can have by far

[@dayvid9824]

Make the jump, Brian. Us F8x guys are waiting....

[@dawnzyy7603]

I know this vid is old, but i got an f80, i have a gearbox problem, and my fuel is going crazy i would spend about £20 (about $25) within 2 hours of driving in sport (not ragging it or flooring every 2 seconds) please lmk why. I also get around 100 miles half tank and 240-250 miles full tank MAX

[@tavipirvulescu8694]

Hi, can you tell us, if you are in D1 and you are slowing down...from 50 to 30 let's say...can we put in N in order to accelerate to make noise while running ? and then in D1 back ? Thanks.

[@M5_dave]

Sometimes when I'm in D and accelerate with over 50% throttle (but not full kickdown) the transmission will remain in 5th until I slow down enough to engage anti stall protection, at the next junction for example. I usually flip the paddles up to 7th and then back to D. Anyone else had this issue with DCT? Other than that I absolutely love it though.

[@deralien]

Kies Motorsports, when you swapped to the carbon fiber shift surround trim, did you notice the drive logic button being a less tactile and shallow than the stock trim? It's the same button but I found when I switched mine, it was different.

[@TriNguyen-co6ju]

How did you get the blue cluster?

[@DRFRX7]

What should I do if I just want to jump out my car quickly without turn off the car?

[@m2fasttransam]

On test drive of my M4 i had to google how to put it in park.

[@Kingpin2022]

Anyone know where to find the blue cluster overlays in this video?

[@shortz9604]

I have a 2013 335is with dct and the first thing I said with no parking break my car has a button I hit ontopnof the shifter knob itself says P I hit it and puts it in parking is this only for the dct for the M3 isn’t it the 7 speed dct same as the 335is?

[@IRONxMAN1989]

Whatsup with the first gear being jerky? I cant get used to it lmao. Someone on fb posted about a gts gearbox flash fix? You know anything about that?

[@vlonely9457]

how are you getting 341miles in a full tank?

[@gabricr76]

DCT should never has auto-rolling function due to its design (to make it possibile clutches are made slither one against the other and it causes premature wearing) although some brands do it btw.

[@SNeto67]

Brian I plan to start changing the oil myself my local automotive store is having a sale on ramps a Jack kit set and a 1/4 and 1/2 inch torque wrench with adjustable settings but they are not electric can I do the job with these items I'm on a budget but if you think that this is alright to start of with please let me know and also can I drain my oil properly if the car is on ramps only on the front.

[@vonfragyou]

If you shift to 2nd when in sport mode at stop it will move without the jerks. There is plenty of torque to do this technique.

[@nassermohd2317]

This design it was there since e46 m3 with SMG

[@pvkjhilk8323]

that "smg" was a flop

[@blendedradiusduetche2770]

Hey,can you tell me what the “DCT” on my f30 is about?

[@dinocrest1946]

I think you mean “DTC”. DTC is Dynamic Traction Control, it allows you to get some more spin in the wheels but not let you get too crazy.

[@sleepeatcarry]

Hey, I have a question, Im looking to buy a M4 with DCT but in my country, there are alot of hills. What happens if im standing still and release the break while upwards a mountain? Will the car roll back? Or is there an anti roll back feature on the car?

[@tc-py9yb]

it will roll back, but you just have to tap the throttle lightly to enable the low speed assist and youll be fine.

[@Wilder_Watz]

there is one more nice feature in this car: If you are on a hill turn turn on the engine, the M will not roll backwards, just after 3 Seconds...

[@2fast2nick]

I did the same thing when I rented one.

[@proudeagle2554]

does this DCT gearbox the keep gear system ? i mean can hold the car in a gear just like manual gearbox? like c63 hold the car in first or second gear for drifting or burnout? plz answer

[@jeebus2121]

Yes. In manual mode it will stay in whatever gear you place it. I'm pretty sure it doesn't automatically upshift at redline either.

[@beatsbyjohng]

Brian! What if I just wanna put my M3/M4 in park and leave it RUNNING?? Besides putting it in neutral and pulling the E-brake, how I do it??

[@drewsity9686]

You cant, you have to think of it no different than a manual. Set the brake and leave it in neutral. Think about leaving a manual in gear with the brake set, and letting off the clutch, it will stall, so would a dct..