3 Tips For Masking & Roto

[@rob4eva]

I can tell you from industry experience that depending on the pipeline, your roto methods will change. I'm an experienced paint and roto artist at ILM, we have been using Silhouette to rotoscope, we also do our roto whilst taking into account motion blur, that's where the shutter speed and angle come in. We roto whilst making sure the hard edges are consistent or in some cases the soft edges land in the same place as the footage. A trick I've picked up for out of focus images is to use a temporary blur setting which you disable when exporting your mattes, we export only the hard matte afterward so that the compositor can control the softness themselves. Most of the VFX industry use Nuke for compositing and paintwork, we also use Nuke and Mocha to track in 2D and 3D to speed up our workflow, if we have a camera tracked shot, we can use that data in combination with geo, cards, tracking points and corner pins to enable us to export tracking data to use in silhouette. We give the compositor full control after the roto has been completed, we export the hard mattes with motion blur as well as provide the splines for use in Nuke. More often than not the hard mattes are all we need and a simple defocus node is more than sufficient enough to soften the roto in Nuke. The rule of thumb is that as long as your edges are consistent throughout the shot then you should not have any issues with the roto itself. Frame by frame is sometimes unavoidable however in cases such as very fast movements, just like Ryan says it's important to look at your shot to determine the best approach before starting. Creating multiple shapes at once and then moving them together also speeds up roto, when it comes to the type of roto to use, B-spines are the best because they have better control especially if someone else picks up your work afterward. Bezier tends to cause a lot more issues due to the way they control the shape.

[@jalin8039]

Thanks so much

[@jalin8039]

Is Silhouette really good for roto?

[@KoDaSMASH]

Love you guys! Going on three and half years since I found you guys and each day you make me want to come back and see what awesome content you guys have created. Sending love

[@2defaina]

Hey Ray-ray: an important clarification when you work with the Roto Brush tool is that you need to start in the beginning of your shoot. You can't start in the end of the clip (or in the middle) and move to the first frame (like you can do in Mocha)

[@fredcavender]

Great tips, as usual. I've been rotoscoping for ages, but the tip about Mocha just opened a whole new world for me! I only use Mocha for tracking. Thanks.

[@JawaFettGaming2Secondchannel]

Please do a tutorial on the robot or 3D model in general , to do with element 3D models

[@thornwivans]

Great episode ...keep the awesomeness going film riot!

[@sottozen]

I want that T-shirt!!!!! :)

[@djcrote76]

Good tips. I like tracking the shot and using a very large solid as a track matte. It eliminates the mouvement of the camera in the masking process.

[@quadmaxlikepie]

Thanks for making this video, you don't know how perfectly timed this upload was for me. I have a project coming up that is using this method in a day and this tutorial is fantastic!

[@SamionSpektor]

Ryan! No matter what the episode about, it is always good to see all of them! Great lovely show!

[@JaredIsham]

6:24 That's the plot to the movie Rope :-)

[@YandTrocksuptheirons]

+Jared Isham haha just watched that actually, Hitchcock is always great!

[@JaredIsham]

Yeah, love that film. Would be interesting to see what Hitchcock could have done with the technology available today.

[@FamilyFirstJ]

good job, i'm always surprised at how little people know, but then i remember i've been doing this a long time

[@Jasperi]

Theres also the option to do stuff like making a luma matt using curves, hue/sat luminance adjustments. Depending on what needed to be rotoscoped, sometimes masking isn't enough.

[@FinalGrade]

+Jasperi Wirtanen Yeah and colorama is perfect for some shots too

[@pwnerjenkins9208]

Quick, simple, very great tutorial

[@DeltaPictures]

I found that Rotobrush is the most useful when doing something like a lightsaber effect, because it is only for a few frames, and it saves a lot of time masking so you can focus on the saber

[@SaybK3V]

Can you do a tutorial on the robot! eheheheheheheh

[@AllThingsFilm1]

+kevaramic Yea. I would love to see a tutorial on the compositing of the robot.

[@EdwinTobiasSonic]

+kevaramic lolz I always wonder why Ryan never makes 3d tut vids.

[@mulyadideny281]

+kevaramic agree

[@EdwinTobiasSonic]

I remember once he implied is was too hard.

[@jamesmiller3244]

Ryan, can you do something on a grapple gun please, thanks!

[@EricLefebvrePhotography]

+Jam J That sounds dirty. ;)

[@jamesmiller3244]

+Eric Lefebvre ha ha ha

[@shreyas_._]

plz put a video about camera lighting. most of green room footage had over lighting on atleast one side of the character. but in your footage there is no over lighting and looks like smooth lighting I am very happy to see your lighting adjustments

[@NihilQuest]

Very good tutorial, you give tips that are beyond the usual how to. When you are going to give some love to Blackmagic Fusion though? I can't believe I had to discover this software by myself.

[@thomasip9938]

I am pretty sure stark have done some tips and tricks for Fusion.

[@thefitgamerdad]

Such a cool shirt! Thanks Ryan

[@lorenzschafer6319]

First helpfull episode since a long time! Go on just like that Film Riot!

[@AccidentalBroadcast]

Crazy how many people are roto-ing their subscriptions from the Fine Bros

[@ClearyStoryVisuals]

This clarified a lot! Thanks! What happened to Quick Tips?

[@ArrivalStudios]

This video was so well timed as I have a project coming up where I will need to roto. Many thanks!

[@TheNicoDavis]

Thank you so much for this :) Its super useful

[@rationaldesignstudio]

Groovy, that was good. Thanks.

[@The5thelemnt]

When you said "I have a dead body hidden at my dinner party,' it reminded me of the scene in "Rocky Horror Picture Show." I got After Effects but have not used it yet. I will give it a try.

[@EricLefebvrePhotography]

+5thElemnt I think it might be a reference to Rope. A Hitchcock movie where two guys kill of a classmate and hide the body in a chest that they use as a table for a dinner party. The movie is best known for it's faked long take that was achieved by hiding cuts mostly by filling the frame of the camera and doing a fade cut or hard cut while the frame was filled.

[@The5thelemnt]

Eric Lefebvre I was wondering what he was talking about. I thought he was going to be uploading some mini-movie or something coming up. Rope with Hitchcock? I'll have to watch the movie and check out that scene and fade cut...maybe here on youtube.

[@EricLefebvrePhotography]

5thElemnt​ the movie Birdman uses that same technique.l through the entire movie. For rope, the thing to remember is that it was shot using 10 minute film canisters. So every 10 minute the camera would pan into an object or person but sonce movie theatre reels were 20 minute long hitcock made the cuts at every 20 minute intervals an obvious cut. Its an interesting bit of cinema history. The set has some cool props as well like a miniature of the empire state building in the window. In a massive cyclorama.

[@The5thelemnt]

Eric Lefebvre How funny, a friend just gave me the DVD Birdman to watch. I'll check it out tonight. That is really interesting about what they did in the Hitchcock movie. Now I'm even more curious to see the movie.

[@LuxoBC]

Thanks for the tips, Ry guy! 😀

[@NathanSeals]

I've manually rotoscoped with AE for years and never even knew that I could do it with Mochoa. FML. Thanks Ryan!

[@superbowlchampmathewstaffo2367]

Really liked this on!!!!

[@Imagamerpro64]

Hey Ryan I was wondering if you could do a video on a grappling hook effect!Btw I love the show and look foward to Thursday's and Monday's for it!

[@kon_ger]

Great video. Thanks!

[@haydenantal2303]

With all things considered (Dynamic Range, Codec, XLR Inputs, ND Filters, and image quality) what would you recommend for either starting a production company, or for an already established company to upgrade gear? I do creative for a news station and I'm helping plan the budget next year. Love what you do, learned more here than I did in school. But really.

[@alexdale251]

Awesome T Shirt Ryan

[@selectionediting3828]

Awesome! Just learned something new today! :D

[@learnmeabook1765]

this was very helpful thank you

[@pelagiamusic]

great tips! but would love to see technique on getting great results rotoscoping hair

[@the_campfire_official]

Was the robot done in Element? If so, thats really effective!

[@bengregoire]

excellent episode!

[@jcentracchio]

That was so awesome, like all you stuff. Thanks a million.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Hey Ryan, can you do a tutorial on compositing the robot in your Masking & Roto video? Thanks.

[@MorleyMotionPictures]

Often people say that a good camera isn't necessary, its the content that counts. How important do you think a good camera is when entering into festivals etc?

[@idkdeleteorsomething9663]

That is true but a good camera makes it that much better.

[@ethan_webb]

Could you possibly do a video covering the 4.6k URSA mini from Blackmagic Design? I've seen almost no coverage of it on youtube. Thanks!

[@jyotiradityaadhikari3857]

Thanks Ryan

[@JacobsenBros]

Wow that shirt really pops!

[@MattFiler]

Awesome shirt!

[@JoshInspires]

I'm not sure if comments brighten your day Ryan and/or Josh, but hope you have a nice day and thank you for this helpful tutorial! P.S. Tell Josh that my name is Josh too, haha

[@Andy001z]

Good tips team.

[@metakingspodcast]

Enjoyed Watching

[@RaymondHamby]

Cool shirt Ryan, thanks for this very helpful video.

[@spinetinglingproduct]

Do you think its unprofessional to film with a cellphone? I recently got the LG G Vista 2 and downloaded a whole bunch of cameras everything from time elapse to 4K and I'm impressed. I also film with an iPhone 4 and also impressed with what I can do. Thanks

[@TrainedZombie]

A companion series that does this really slow and detailed would be nice.

[@QwalitySports]

I always think that when and if I have to roto that my life is over. Thanks for the tips!

[@hyperdrivepics]

Never knew I could do it in mocha. You've saved future me so much time!!!

[@italogarcia8830]

Thanks Ry!

[@ReplayedCo]

did that in my latest short film!!

[@lunarfilmhouse4352]

Can you do a realistic gun ricochet tutorial? like how to use Action essentials properly.

[@CrazyGoatGuuus]

love the shirt

[@JaredStCyr]

Hey Ry Guy! Can you explain what you use to transport your gear?

[@AMAStudios]

Any bag from a grocery store would do fine.

[@OscarMontezFilms]

+Jared StCyr AMA obviously does not have any equipment. It's very important to keep gear safe, clean, and protected. Filmmaking can be an expensive hobby. Better gear usually come with their own cases when purchased. When they don't (some lenses for example) buy a pelican case. It's the case I've seen most on professional sets. They are nice hard cases with foam on the inside you can remove to form any shape to fit any type of gear inside. Some even have wheels. Do NOT I repeat DO NOT transport any of your gear in a bag from the grocery story. Imagine seeing Ryan putting his L-Series glass and C-300 in a grocery store bag! Haha

[@JaredStCyr]

***** Yea hence why I didn't reply...

[@OscarMontezFilms]

***** Pelican; haha that's the best way to transport gear was my main point.

[@JaredStCyr]

***** Ok cool thanks.

[@wookietube4524]

Hey Ryan! Can you show us how to run on water?

[@madebymago]

THat shirt!!! I need it!!

[@stewwyvlogs4366]

That shirt is funky fresh Ry Ry

[@lartem12]

OMFG That shirt , i need one ! Where can i find it ?

[@motionsam]

I did some roto for shitty ads, and here are very few tips to save your ass: 1) use graphic tablet for roto instead of a mouse if you can. You will make masks faster, MUCH easier and more accurate. 2) nuke (you can use non-commercial for free) - is A LOT better for roto than AE. Give it a try, and you wont go back. Rotobrush is cool, but there are very few situations where it really helps. Mocha is cool, I use it's tracking data every day for parenting roto stuff. It saves years of monkey job.

[@GenuineSwag]

Cool shirt!

[@PreparedDeath]

One question, where the hell did you get that awesome T-shirt?

[@jacksuttonfilms]

love film riot

[@NerdSyncProductions]

The classic Film Riot Roto-Robo

[@Wixhael]

Way to alliterate! It reminds me of classic comic books! Eh?

[@amsterdamhamby7095]

Ryan's got on a pretty cool shirt.

[@ProfessorManagement]

need that shirt!

[@IanHecht]

I'm one of those who hates roto, but thanks to you, maybe I won't be trying to pluck my eyeballs out at the end of my next roto session. I thank you, and my eyeballs thank you as well!

[@JuggernautStyle]

Hey Ryan, I was just wondering about your opinion on the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema camera. Let me know if you get a chance. Thanks!

[@ThomtickInc]

cool stuff, thanks

[@EricLefebvrePhotography]

The end quote ... was that a Rope reference?

[@sawyerwilks6230]

4th tip, right click on the mask and click the track mask function, turn on rotation scale and movement, adjust a few of the frames. Congratulations, you just rotoed 100 frames in a few minutes

[@sauce8277]

I am commenting so Ryan can make money.

[@AdammC125]

They actually make money from ads not commenting and the more views the more money

[@DudeinatorMC]

+brickfilm maker They make money based on views and clickthroughs. As far as I know, they'll get a small amount of money for someone seeing an ad, but a much larger amount if someone clicks through the ad and even buys some of what the ad is actually advertising.

[@ewanr1834]

+Josh Duewall The deal is one dollar for 1000 views

[@ovenchickenus]

+C Winston In general that's true but the payment isn't per view, its variable with how many ads are shown, what ads are shown, number of clickthroughs, and several other factors.

[@ovenchickenus]

Commenting doesn't give money directing but it counts towards the interaction score which gets the video recommended and on the search results.

[@LiamJMWilson]

Could you do a video on how to get started with After Effects, I feel like a lot of the time you move way too quickly and I feel so lost. I think a 'Back to Basics' style video would be very good and useful to many people.

[@SimplyLiamTV]

Great tips! :)

[@djfluff313]

and that y I love this show !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TomsRCAdventures]

hey haven't they made an episode on how to transmit a HDMI signal to a monitor via wifi? I can't seem to find the video... Can someone help me out?

[@motionsam]

shirt made my day

[@maxsmoot9375]

i like the vfx tutorials and they are handy but can you do more cinematography and directing videos etc plz

[@zahabahmedqureshi1303]

Hey Ryan? Have you had your hands on the Panasonic g7 yet? I'm interested, but there are not a lot of reviews of it on KZbin.

[@fooblefilms8250]

I know it looks awesome

[@TheNicoDavis]

Maybe thats because there are a lot of GH4 reviews and the G7 is basically a gimped GH4. Only difference is no headphone jack or clean HDMI out

[@TannerRogers]

+Davis Productions the difference is its half the price of a gh4 body only and it can still shoot 4k

[@hammadshakeel2419]

Bro Which camera you are using for record you tutorial.. +Film Riot

[@samayverma2363]

Do a pc setup video!!

[@IanZainea1990]

use small simple splines! 2:23 ... one giant spline.

[@JonahPaulhamusMedia]

Couldn't stop staring at the new shirt...

[@lassi2954]

Is it noise or compression on Ryan's shirt?

[@vladmnt]

Awesome! :D

[@PharmakeiaFilms]

I got on this channel to look up the "Put Yourself in the Avengers!" episode for some roto goodness... what are odds of that?

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

Sony a6300 looks pretty sweet

[@sebastianvangen]

Is the Mocha better then the standard Roto Brush? I've used After Effects 2019 since January and tbh i didn't knew about that software called mocha. :0

[@kinglilp2956]

Could you do something with a Taser please ? I Need that effect for a project but couldn't find anything usefull on the Interwebs . Thanks

[@denizsmncgl]

Where do you design or draw the robot?

[@jackhollander1960]

Will you ever start working on Outsiders again? Thanks for D'a Mc Lovin Videos!

[@m.f.filming4682]

Which editing software used in your short films

[@paolodetailing]

Hi Ryan, how is the value of shutter speed to have a sharpest and cleanest image for externals?? (Canon 5d MK III f4 full frame lens). than you so much Paolo Corino

[@Palrakesh363]

Thx

[@SAndSPictures]

I saw the title and got excited because I thought Quick Tips was back... then I saw it wasn't.

[@alejandracastaneda6473]

Hi! I'd like to use the track in mocha option but when I look for track in mocha AE I find that my After doesn´t shows that option. I wonder if there is a pluggin or something that I miss