3 Ways To Play In Stereo With The Line 6 Helix!

[@moments_with_IH]

Came for the stereo tips, stayed for the killer tone and playing style. Love it bro

[@오정재-b3t]

I got to see your channel today This post was posted a long time ago Your setting is a lot of inspiration Your Custom IR is really great I think it's better than what I paid for It says vintage 4, can you tell me which speaker it is? I'm trying to copy your setting haha Then, bye

[@imaguandaloops]

After much searching, I FINALLY understand how to make a stereo patch with ssparation in Helix. Thank you SO much for explaining this so clearly! Your Helix videos are all great and I look forward to more. Thanks again!

[@LucasFowler]

I'm glad I could be of service!

[@jodecaesteker]

Gotta love mr. Timmons! 😎 Great sound sir!

[@mikeriesco6174]

That Plexi model is outstanding -- maybe it's your IR that makes it so good. Thanks for the video!

[@LucasFowler]

I think that good IR's are the secret to getting really great tones from the Helix.

[@HighCountryGuitar]

Love that trick with the delay, did not know that one. Can't believe how much of a difference it makes.

[@ErebosGR]

Cool stuff! At 4:56, the compound rhythm is a polyrhythm, specifically 4 against 3 (4:3). "Pass-the-goddamn-butter"

[@LucasFowler]

I love it!

[@xenunknown-o4u]

Not a lot of videos explaining this so simply. Great vid.

[@djffe8597]

Great video, great explanations and it's not so fast I can't see what you're actually doing. Thanks you!

[@mattcat5668]

I'm getting the Helix lt this weekend and this might be one of the first things I try on it. Thanks 👍

[@LucasFowler]

I love playing in stereo. It's very inspiring!

[@tonywallens217]

0:32 - 0:36 is my favorite part of this video

[@MarkCoffin]

That Vault Tec is sweet! Custom build?? Love the tutorial. I followed along and created the first delay patch with your IR perfectly, then adjusted for my guitar slightly. Sounds really nice, thank you.

[@ghost79ish]

Great video! Subbed. I just upgraded from a tonelab SE to the helix about a month ago. I'm no stranger to this modeling stuff but there is a ton to learn! I like the two, hard panned delays much more than the standard ping pong delay. Also, I didn't realize you could do 2 completely separate signal paths... Stoked(even more than I already was) to jam now! Cheers

[@willplayforbeer3658]

Awesome vid and IR! I subbed immediately!

[@UNAI_IKER_Music]

Nice tutorial Lucas, thanks for sharing. What about adding detune to the second way apart from the delay trick?

[@kidamazed]

Great stuff. Very clear and precise information. I messed around and ended up splitting the signal and put the "Simple pitch" on one path with 20ms and 2 cents of to create the stereo effect. Keep up the good work! Is this possible to achieve with the Kemper?

[@steve_one]

I have set the exact same settings up on my Helix Native and yours sounds far more driven than mine. Have you added an external drive pedal before the Helix?. Great video Lucas.

[@LucasFowler]

No external drives, that sounds like probably a combination of pickup output discrepancy and/or your interface’s input volume, as those are paramount to the amount of drive. You’ll need to experiment with the amount of signal you’re sending into Helix native, basically. Hope that helps!

[@steve_one]

@@LucasFowler Yes, that does make sense my Scarlett interface is right down low at zero for my Neural DSP plugins. I think the Helix Native should be set up as you mention. Thanks 👍

[@steve_one]

Getting that versatile Andy Timmons sound works great with the guitar volume reduced, cleans up nice.

[@RivalNev]

Hey, this is great. Can you let me know how you have your Helix plugged in? What cable do you have going where kind of thing? I will be using this delay method with real amps and wondered how you have it plugged in. Thanks!!

[@LucasFowler]

I was going directly into my interface here, completely DI. The way I'm routing the delays here is essentially in the "FX loop" of the virtual amp. I prefer time-based effects in the FX loop so that the effect doesn't change based on my preamp gain sound. There are different ways you could do this with amps, depending on whether or not you are using the "four cable method" using your amps's effects loops, or if you're just running into the amp's "front" input. You could also just use amp's FX returns and use them simply as power amps. It can get pretty complex actually, it kind of depends on how in the weeds you want to get with combining the Helix with "real" amps.

[@r.llynch4124]

Very cool info there Lucas. Love the doubling fx very much.

[@andylamb8873]

Nice Work ! I would like to know how to properly place a looper in the split signal - please advise..

[@mauplguitar]

Thanks for the video, it really explains a lot !! i have a doubt.... in the preferences says something about import Stereo IR .... this majes a difference ??? if is yes ... which should i use (use left channel / use Right Channel / Mix both Channels)?? ... thanks !

[@arthurneroshchin5015]

GREAT VIDEO. SO GUITAR CABLE GOES INTO GUITAR IN OBVIOUSLY , THEN 2 CABLES OUT TO DI BOX?

[@jeffsmiley3213]

Very informative! I don't own a helix.....yet. Lol. But x-mas is coming

[@LucasFowler]

Thanks! Its one of my all time favorite pieces of gear.

[@dr.0078]

Very nice. Any chance you can share the patches?

[@GOtheVOPro]

Hey Lucas. Thank you for this video, and for the IR. I downloaded it onto my desktop (file name was "Vintage 4.wav"). Tried to drag it into my Impulse drop-down list, but nothing new appeared. Also tried to use the "import" button and selecting the file, but results were the same. Any suggestions?

[@robertstapleton3598]

That is a friggin GREAT video!

[@schlagdog]

Great video. I appreciate you didn’t built these patches then just demo them by just trying to shred so you have no idea if they are any good or not. Which seems to be how lots of guys do demos.

[@LucasFowler]

Shredding is not my strong point :P I'm glad you liked it!

[@leonardolillo5421]

Very helpful!, in the first way, are you using 2 XLR cables outing from the helix?

[@LucasFowler]

Yes, for all of the sounds in this video I'm using the 2 XLR outs on the helix panned hard left and right.

[@tochiromifune419]

Thank you, very informative. For the doubling FX do you pan hard?

[@LucasFowler]

I'm glad you liked it! Yes, I pan everything hard right and left for all of these patches. Particularly with the doubling effect, I find that very useful.

[@peterworam9376]

What are your running the Helix into? Do you have 2 separate powered amps or monitors? I run my helix through a single powered Alto 2-10 monitor which has 2 discrete inputs that I run into as L-R from the helix, but I don't get that stereo spread. I am wondering if I can get a true stereo sound out of it. As a comparison, the amp I use in my rehearsal studio is a Blackstar ID 260TVP, which has a "true stereo" feature. It's insane - it feels like the guitar is coming from all over. Totally mind boggling 3D sound with mod, chorus, delay and reverb. I think it's set up like a JC-120 with a separate power section for each side, but am not sure. Do you need 2 different powered monitors/cabs in L-R for the stereo effect?

[@LucasFowler]

Well in this case I was running it into two separate inputs on my interface, but to get a true stereo spread, you need to discreet inputs, power amps and speakers. You also don't want the speakers to be too close to each other, or the stereo effect will be much less noticeable. When I play live with that set up I have 2 separate Headrush monitors, one gets the "left" signal and the other gets the "right". I also sometimes use a stereo power amp into a stereo 2x12 cab. In that case the speakers are pretty close together, so I don't use the "doubling" effect because it doesn't sound good. I only use stereo delays or chorusing in that instance.

[@peterworam9376]

Thanks. That's pretty much what I thought. For me it's not worth lugging around another floor monitor since I'm really just using it for stage monitoring. I wish someone made a true stereo frfr floor monitor...

[@carlossalazar4508]

That vh stuff is killer!! Is that preset available?

[@jonathanotrujillo]

Do you have to pan Hard L and R in your interface too?

[@zoppifan]

Hey Lucas....great stuff! Quick question on the live application. I just bought my Helix LT and a pair of Headrush speakers. The band I play in uses a mono application for FOH but just for stage monitoring I like feeling the stereo sound come at me and enjoy the fullness. With that said I will likely be sending mono XLR to FOH but using the 1/4 inch for l/r hoping to have some type of stereo richness when monitoring. If creating stereo sounds mainly for the 1/4 inch outs to the Headrush speakers will the FOH sound sending in mono be compromised? Or would it be best to do the 25ms trick for both FOH and my monitoring? Any advice appreciated......... Thanks

[@LucasFowler]

That's a great question. You can sum to mono with most of these stereo effects, but I don't recommend the "25ms doubling" idea in mono, because what you'll end up creating is kind of a hollow, phasey sound. Other than that, I would use stereo paths however you like it. It won't translate as stereo out front if it's summed to mono, but that is often lost on the audience anyway unless you have a very talented sound guy!

[@zoppifan]

@@LucasFowler So if I sum to mono will my monitoring with the 2 Headrush speakers give me a stereo sound? Do I even need 2 speakers if that is the case?

[@turaly0n]

Lucas, can you do a video on the Double Take? I can't figure out how to use it without getting terrible flanging.

[@LucasFowler]

I've not messed with that one, let me check it out and see what I can do :)

[@alvguitar516]

GOLD INFORMATION!

[@marcelblade]

downloaded you're ir, sounds really good!

[@LucasFowler]

Glad you dig it!

[@gianburns1]

I need help. In the true stereo mode, can i add another line of effects for each side (left and right)? I need more than 8 slot. Considering two slots for amp and IR i can use only 6 effects for side

[@dpajc056]

try dragging an effect block up or down to form a new line from HX Edit on your PC. then add a new block while the line is there and drag back the previous block to its place. If you want the effects in line then on the output reroute to the new line. If you run out of processing power, try a send/return block and run your effects outside of Helix through that block. Good luck!

[@theRodofwar]

Lucas Great Vid !!!!!!! so will this work with the HX FX also ??????????

[@deboramedina6106]

Thank you for the IR!!!

[@paulcuban]

these patches sound great any chance you could please upload them to customtone.

[@spike_4174]

Just follow his instructions. He shows you the settings. Pause the video when you need to copy them.

[@musicbynaush]

Great video man. Looking fwd to more.

[@LucasFowler]

Thanks! Is there anything you'd like to see videos on? I try do just do what you guys dig.

[@mondobando8286]

is it possible to connect two guitars to left and right inputs and send their signal separately to left and right outputs?

[@LucasFowler]

If you have one of the models with all the inputs and outputs, yes, you should be able to do that.

[@mondobando8286]

@@LucasFowler thank you!

[@Dylanguitar69]

excellent. Thanks!!

[@shahircaen556]

Very informative..👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@rsvette123]

Great video - would be cool if you could googledrive patches :)

[@dlees8432]

cool stuff. did you say u linked a ir? i dont see it in the descrip

[@LucasFowler]

Whoops, forgot to put in the link! In the description now.

[@accidentals_hacks]

interesting that the echo effect is not before an amp, but rather after!

[@hichembell9972]

5150 the album not the amp ahhahahaah amazing man

[@LucasFowler]

Gotta clarify, cause some of us weren't born when that album came out :P

[@theRodofwar]

so in other words are you using the 4 cable method or are you doing the 7 cable method !!!!!!!!!

[@dpajc056]

I don’t see note sync I have Time instead

[@LaminarSound]

I prefer to run two completely different amps and cabs hard panned.

[@LucasFowler]

That works great too! I end up spending too much time tweaking when I get into two amps, I'll spend two hours on a single patch before I even realize it :P

[@LaminarSound]

Lucas Fowler yeah thats definitely easy to do. This thing totally inspires playing. Since i run my full analog board with the Stomp only running the amps, theres less to deal with. Ive got one go to patch(Placater clean/Mesa Mark iii clean). I also have a few other patches ready to go if im feeling Voxy or Fendery or Marshally on a specific day.

[@mr_hppd348]

Why is it when ever people do doubling effects, it always has phaser issues and sounds awful in mono? I'm not trying to hate on your video, it's all videos pretty much. It does that with most stereo effects??????

[@LaminarSound]

Jack Funkinstain in stereo, the two parts are hard panned. They are coming out of two separate speakers. You can still have the phase issues but its less noticeable. This is also why in studio work you will rarely see a guitar part tracked this way. 99% of the time the guitarist will track the same part twice. Two separate passes of the same part. The waves are very close but not close enough to cause phase issues.