30-06 VS 30-30 hunting rifle?

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[@allenatkins2263]

If I ever get attacked by a line of metal discs, I hope I have a 30-06 handy.

[@tomswinburn1778]

hahahahaha

[@originalfiremancancelled7303]

Allen Atkins I was once then I got a 458 Socom

[@martinpecheur8506]

Allen Atkins youre a genius..how do u come up with that stuff...were you Seinfeld s writter...truly one of a kind...

[@doughesson]

I faced a line of steel discs when flying over the Battle of Macho Grande.

[@shannonbrown5913]

Best gun to have if you are ready to use it.

[@ronfillmore281]

Years ago I settled on the 30-30 for my primary big game hunting rifle. I have taken Mule Deer, Pronghorns, Elk and Moose with no problems. Most every shot was under 200 yards, and most every animal dropped within 20 feet or less from point of hit. Yes, I have used the '06, and it is a great cartridge. But for me it was overkill. Point is: Every shooter should settle on the gun and caliber that works best for that shooter. I found the pre-64 Model 94 works best for me. Sights are always perfectly lined up with my eye when shouldered. Back in High School I and other hunters armed with '06s and such were embarrassed completely on an Elk hunt by a young man armed with his grandfather's vintage 30-30 '94 rifle with the long octagon barrel. That was when I became interested in the 30-30. Brought home the old adage "Beware the man who owns only one gun! He probably knows how to use it"!

[@Crazystuffyousee]

I'm glad the discs with holes in them were picked up so the viewer could confirm there was indeed holes in them

[@toxicwhitestraightmalebigo6091]

Thank you

[@garrettmesser3977]

Wrong on the 30-06, hitting near the edge caused the metal to bend from the impact energy. If it had stayed in the center it may have penetrated

[@leonfourie5965]

garrett messer i totally agree. Not very scientific test

[@tootsie3612]

garrett messer I was thinking the same thing

[@knoxrogers2964]

exactly

[@semperfidelis6235]

@@leonfourie5965 At least the guy took his time, money, and effort to implement this test and allow those who may not have the land or time to show us something that we were not too aware of. Thanks Edwin. Semper Fi.

[@shockem165]

It’s just fun to watch Jesus... and it was tumbling that’s why it went off track my guy.

[@walterb299]

It would be interesting to see the difference between spaces between the metal and then stacking the same amount tight and see what happens.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

pretty cool. The 30 ought 6 as a lot more powder behind it

[@killianmckay3464]

3 years later and I’m finding you have a typo

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@@killianmckay3464 🤔🤔🤔 nah. Looks good to me

[@killianmckay3464]

The real round is 30-06. Also unless you meant gunpowder, the powder is incorrect

[@eliferguson3422]

@@killianmckay3464 this dude shoots gun s everyday of his life. Don't even try to correct him. You're not as smart as him with guns

[@yourshootingbuddy]

Gun guys just enjoy looking at comparisons like this no matter what. It's just interesting. I also like the fact that you can do it in under 5 minutes. I don't think it's about the deer or even that anyone thinks the 2 cartridges are evenly matched it's just fun to watch. Great video.

[@EdwinSarkissian]

+Your Shooting Buddy yah same here , I just enjoy shooting them and see what Happens . Thanks

[@MrHeadshot1982]

Thanks for the post keep up the good work.

[@BombayBoywhoPedals]

do one where the sheets are kept stuck together and one where they are how you have placed the sheets in this video

[@gamingforaiden_hd3496]

Awesome video man, I'm always hyped to see your new videos, also your guns are really god damn powerful! I can tell you don't mess around when people try burgle your house, ahah see ya later. XD

[@GoldplatedIronfist]

yay you finally pulled out the .30-30! you should get a marlin 336

[@billypost1880]

I've killed elk with my 30-30 marlin at 200 yards with the 170 grain and 150 grain lever revolution ballistic tip. The 30-30 maybe slow and out dated but have killed more critters than any other gun. For those people say you can't kill big game over 150 yards with a 30-30 need to learn to shoot and spend more time site your rifle and elevation

[@DesertSage01]

Not disputing your experience and findings but a 30.06 will knock that trophy buck you want in your freezer off his feet at 400 yards easily if you know how to shoot.

[@knoxrogers2964]

My great granddad killed a elk at almost 300 yards with a 30-30

[@steelgila]

@@knoxrogers2964 That was an amazing shot but I don't see why a .30-30 wont pull it off.

[@Mikishots]

That's some straight shooting, Tex. Nice job.

[@mendigogringo2479]

Great Vid Man, Keep it Up

[@69footlover69]

Was very helpful. Thank you

[@dmaxm2498]

Afterwards you should have put all the sheet metal plates together and then see if they could penetrate through all of them while bundled together and document the difference of them being apart as to being up against each other.

[@n7565j]

I know it's old, I know it's not the latest and greatest, but I LOVE my old 06 !!! Thanks for breaking out the oldie but goodie Mr Sarkissian :-) Gotta admit I was surprised at how much farther the 06 penetrated vs the 30-30... Still a great all purpose round ;-)

[@EdwinSarkissian]

+Brian W u welcome . Oldies are the best . 😎

[@kwik440]

AWESOME !! Great test ! Thanks

[@Bonneville2482]

It wasn't a lack of energy that kept it from going through the last few plates it started tumbling but still had enough energy to keep going

[@66hazard]

Edwin great vid as always, where do you get these guns, do you work at a gun store?

[@EdwinSarkissian]

+66hazard from my bedroom lol

[@paulleFIFOU]

Good video Edwin !

[@charlesmiller6826]

nice Remington, those were always sweet shooting rifles back in the day

[@addicted2tone349]

Do a 50BMG vs 22lr next..

[@WHOTEEWHO]

3006 wins aye! Saw this one before but had to watch again

[@garytredwell5649]

What type of projectiles did you use? The 30.30 because of the tube mag should use a rounded or flat point. I'm guessing the 30.06 was a spire point? That would make a difference. Granted, the cartridge for 30.06 is larger, but I'd like to see a fair comparison of two spire point bullets. Also, I'm pretty sure I saw the 30.30 projectile bounce away after hitting #15!

[@popsxbox]

Hunting in Texas I wouldn't give up my Marlin 30-30 lever action for all the tea in China. Great brush gun. Got it when I was 13 years old 1980

[@darthmusturd9526]

Calvin From Texas take the tea and sell it. Then buy all the guns back

[@johnbivins]

My uncle gave me his Marlin 30-30 lever before he passed. I love it It just a fun hunting rifle.

[@timtravasos2742]

You need to have the tops of the metal sheets braced as well so that the sheets don't bend back on impact.

[@rickcruz3382]

when the projectile starts spinning and trajectory changes it might not go through sideways but it had eanough velocity too

[@BatfoxBabe]

Excelent comparison! And a cute genuine accent too. :D

[@805NAVE]

Love this channel

[@BDCALLAIS]

30.06 is more powerful than a 30-30? Duh! 🙄

[@raymondj8768]

they are bolth 30 caliper rounds duh but one is pointed the other isent so if you want knockdown power id get a 30-30

[@derekkline8359]

A 30-06 has more grain

[@vicdoesgaming7570]

well .30-30 is only a .30 with 30 grains of powder with 2000-2400 fps and .30-06 with like 40-60 grains and starts at 2500 fps and stops at 3000-3100 also .30-30 is only 150-170 grain bullet .30-06 goes up to like 220

[@vicdoesgaming7570]

yeah smokeless powder is stronger you would use less of it

[@JamesMiller_ShadowWalker]

Vic does gaming But he's shooting point blank range. Have him back up say 50 or even 100 yards. That 30-30 is going to flop like a wet noodle, whereas the 30.06 would be far more devastating. 30-06 has far more knock-down power at 300 yards where a 30-30 would probably be eating dirt. Not enough to land on target; also want the knock-down/shock too.

[@403speed]

I really like your videos and I won't stop watching them, keep them up. Come to Canada and shoot here.

[@steveriddle313]

guns for using against the left Winchester for defence tell the left too stand inline for a 30 oot 6 bang bang

[@DrRob-gr5br]

Great illustration of a tumbling bullet

[@bustinnutz2]

another entertaining vid , i was thinking you outta try getting a few 1/8 in and 1/2 in mild steel plates and see what pistol rounds might go through the 1/8 and see what rifle rounds might penetrate the 1/2 in plate . just a thought , keep up the mindless destruction !! :) BTW if you can get your hands on a Mosin Nagant you could put the 30-06 up against the 762x54R . they are basically the same but from different countries .

[@coryellis12]

Why are you using hollow points for a penetration test against a steel Target? I think if you were using just straight up Full Metal Jacket ball ammo the results would be a lot different. But still a good vid and it looks like you had fun.

[@Adiscretefirm]

Can't get spitzer tip FMJ in 30-30 so you wouldn't have as pure a caliber vs caliber comparison. Only change one variable per test to isolate cause and effect easier.

[@kennethrisner8648]

if you can get hold of a old 303 enfield, id like ta see the same test using an old original 303 military load

[@jamesoliva9531]

Next time I go sheet metal hunting I will know exactly what to bring along.

[@MrNacho010]

Edwin Sarkissian Many tempered glasses for cell phones are bulletproof?

[@jonlucas5521]

Good test...a lot of work. Bullet construction plays a big part in these kinds of tests...but good job!

[@bearclaw2661]

got myself a marlin 336w 3030 very nice for whitetail hunting fast too

[@reaper5904]

can you do a comparison with a 30-06 vs 45-70, you haven't done that yet.

[@kookooachoo2538]

A Remington Model 788 Bolt Action Rifle in caliber 30-30 is an amazing hunting rifle that I brought down game bigger than deer out to about 350 yards with.

[@coreyboone7769]

Hi Edwin huge fan watch all your videos you should try 30-06 vs 308 there are a lot off people arguing what is the better caliber you should do a video testing 30-06 vs 308

[@livenloud6697]

Still was so cool to see the difference great video I thought

[@SOLERDIEGO12]

Edwin,ever try to catch a bullet using a catchers mitt? 9mm.

[@rippertrain]

I have that same Remington 742. cool carbine

[@kardstore]

maybe put bigger discs in the back so the bullet track can be followed

[@masterof1]

It would be interesting to see you shoot spoons to see which one goes through stainless steel better.

[@kandeflores9486]

Let me gees you must do sheet metal for living lol

[@bobhunt3197]

Hollow points in a 30-30, that's something I've never seen and I've had my Marlin 336 for almost 35 years, and still my favorite gun, ridiculous comparison though.

[@dennisedwards6206]

Marlin 336 in .35 since first deer hunt in 1976. Still grab it when I go to rifle areas here in Central New York. Though, looking at the .30-06. There's room in the gun locker...

[@humoroustumor]

try and stop several pistol and rifle rounds with multiple lined up bales of hay, not straw. I fired some 9MM fmj rounds into a bale of hay recently and when i dug them out they were completely undamaged except for the rifling marks down the bullet shank. Tried the same with a 7.62×54r rifle and i could not find the bullet. I used two bales of alfalfa hay and the 9MM went more than halfway through the first one lengthwise. So please try it out and thank you for your vids :) thanks.

[@noe9328]

At Edwin Sarkissian question what was the Grain in the caliber 30-30 use 119 150 270 ???? cs the 30-06 is about 150 grain

[@robertjeffery3237]

Sheet steel or aluminum?

[@jagdishjoshi6703]

Love from HIMALAYA Edvin Bro

[@troyhiett1885]

Just a little food for thought the 742 is semiauto and uses some energy to cycle a round a bolt action would go further thanks gor the video

[@mmaheshkumar4404]

Hi good morning 30-6 is great gun.how much this gun with scope.

[@SirYvor]

Could you shoot at the Blade of an Katana ? With different Caliber , just to see what happens to the Blade and the Bullet

[@troybailey8113]

What was the grain of bullet? What was the powder? All important things skimmed over

[@alexreed7775]

I learned how to count after this video

[@new4me4horizon]

what ammo was used in each?

[@thomasdonohue9098]

Nice rifles man. I use both these calibers on whitetail both are great I tend to carry the 30 30 more its lighter shorter and better brush gun than my 30 06

[@Zeus-rk8cl]

i really love the 3006 i have one its an old one actually but i love it lol

[@truth959]

You shoulda put the big discs at the back.

[@dougcopson3676]

What's the difference between a 20mm cannon and a .22?

[@ciro79]

HP rounds.If that was FMJ ,even 30-30 would penetrate all sheets.

[@jimjakosh2506]

I think you are right there!!

[@jamesdavio4291]

What's the difference between a 30 ought 6 and a 410

[@1Ocqueoc]

How about trying the .25-06?

[@308alaska]

That's called key-holing on the 30:06 bullet--It turned side way. Your aim didn't appear to be straight inline with the disks. This caused flexing disc to push the bullet more on one side which caused it the bullet to turn sideways. Another example is shooting through brush. Key-holing can also be caused by not enough spin on the bullet. Reload the same bullet (such as a sierra 150 game king) for both guns. One rifle shoots slower so the penetration test is a forgone conclusion with all things being equal. If your interested A good read is : HATCHER'S NOTE BOOK written by Julian Hatcher, a Major General studying ballistics. Fun reading!

[@flhusa1]

if i see a sheetmetal deer this might be useful info.

[@curtishorn1267]

Why don't you try this with the Hornady FTX 160 or 140 grain in 30-30? Also the 30-06 at the end there may have gone through if the plates were supported better, there's no way to know. Consider supporting the sides of the plates somehow.

[@leeroyexcavator9149]

pretty cool. would have better if the sheets were framed in not so floppy but still a good video.

[@pablosaltaleggio4817]

Impresionante la diferenci de la potencia del remington 3006 es casi el doblevde penetracion. Saludos desde Argentina.

[@danielrichardson2931]

That was good I wonder how much more a 300 wim mag would do over 308

[@MrWadim94]

Exceeds expectations!

[@FingerAngle]

I like the Texas edition. I have a few pre 64s.

[@jackdaniels195]

8mm vs 30-06 spizter fmj 180 grain this might demonstrate the difference in sectional density

[@alvinespinoza9678]

I killed my 1st elk with a 742 in 30-06 and a 180 gr Federal load. A few years later I killed a cow elk with my 30-30 Winchester 26" bbl commemorative rifle at 208 yards. Both are formidable weapons for hunting... even though the 30-06 is more capable than the other, don't discount the 30-30.. it has and will get the job done.

[@ldwithrow08]

The only reason a 30-30 gets a bad rap as a lightweight is because all the commercial ammo is loaded for tube fed lever guns. You need a round nosed bullet to keep primers from going off in the tube and a fairly light powder charge. If you used it in a bolt gun or single shot where you can max out what the case will take and use pointed bullets with higher BC, they would perform right up there with the big boys. I've shot them out of a Ruger #1 and a shotgun/rifle combo made in Europe.

[@brdwonder]

Good point. Dad had a late 30's Savage bolt action .30 30 clip fed. Used spire point 150 grain shells. 28 inch barrel, iron sights. It was deadly at 400 yds. we ate a lotta venison.

[@azchauthapawchautha8326]

जी मुझको बता दें कि दोनों राइफल में कौनसा ताकत है ?

[@brianmorgan3659]

This is like comparing a 22 rim fire and a 12 g shotgun

[@brentw1108]

Is a 30 06 ok for a new shooter?

[@mikedee6173]

Edwin, make 11 ga. Your new favorite gauge of steel.

[@jeremyfowler1519]

Can u do a video explaining mm vs caliber.

[@-FromTheWest]

Jeremy Fowler you couldve searched it up if necessary, but thanks to californiaGunNut now you have a little bit more knowledge.

[@redacted4033]

CaliforniaGunNut caliber literally means the diameter of the bullet in inches same as mm

[@philverhey7335]

Both Millimetres and Calibre are the diameter of the bullet... Calibre is in inches, Millimetres is in Millimetres. .50 calibre is .50 of an inch in diameter, .223 is .223 of an inch in diameter. people mix up "Calibre" and "cartridge", saying "30-06 calibre" instead of ".30 calibre in the .30-06 cartridge" TRIVIA ... 30-06 is .30 calibre bullet in the 1906 adopted standard case... both M1 and M2 ball (US Army) was .30-06, the M2 came after the Army realised the M1 was too ballistically efficient, and the safety buffer zone beyond the backstops of the firing ranges weren't long enough to prevent a .30-06 M1 boat-tail from falling short of people miding their own business.. so instead of going through the huge expense of making heir ranges longer ... they made their .30-06 ball ammo shittier so it wouldn't fly as far. ... and if you put modern .30-06 ammunition into an M1 Garand, you'll wreck it ... because the M1 gas system is set up for M2 ball.... you'll need to take out the gas plug and put in an after market vent. .. in otherwords, there's a lot to know about ammunition, so it's good that you're asking.

[@SomeGuy-vo7we]

Caliber is SAE, MM is metric. .50 cal means the bullet is half an inch in diameter. 9mm means the bullet is 9 millimeters in diameter. Some older cartridges were named by the bullet diameter & powder charge in the cartridge like the .45-70Govt. The bullet was 0.45 inch wide and was loaded with 70 grains of black powder. Another way cartridges are named is by bullet diameter and year of development. A prime example for this is the popular .30-06. The bullet is 0.30 inch wide and the cartridge was developed in 1906.

[@powerdog242]

Caliber is simply the diameter of the barrel at its narrowest point. Exactly what unit is used to measure that distance doesn’t matter. It can be in inches or millimeters, and it will mean the same thing. For instance .30-06. The name means the cartridge contains a projectile sized to fit a barrel 30 hundredths of an inch in diameter at its smallest point(aka “.30 caliber”), and it was adopted in 1906. 30 hundredths of an inch, when converted into the metric system, converts to 7.62mm. And most European cartridges are named with a system that lists the projectile caliber and the length of the shell casing, both in millimeters. So America’s 30-06 gets named the 7.62x63 in Europe. Just whose system is getting used determines where each region’s favorite spots on the caliber scale. America, for instance, LOVES 30 caliber-it’s such a nice round number in their minds. Europeans, for their part, prefer their own calibers in their own “nice round numbers”-6.5mm, 7mm, 8mm and so on.

[@chaneyduron8244]

Hey anybody with the knowledge to help me out I have a 30-06 mauser bolt action rifle was given a crate of ammo but it doesnt say 30-06 it has the markings k 70 30 ( I'm assuming a 30-30 tound?) The bullets fit but I don't wana shoot it till I'm sure so just burning thru the rest of my 30-06 ammo till I have an idea if it's safe ammo?

[@Strengthandconditioning60]

I got an 30-06 and love it, but that is one nice looking 30-30. The 30-06 is great for retaining energy and accuracy at short and long range but in the brush I'd take that 30-30. I don't have a 30-30 but after seeing that one I've got the itch for one. Notice the big holes in the plates shortly after entering the plates from the 30-30. That means it's expending all of its energy in the target and will knock the snot out deer within 150 to 200 yards in the hands of a good marksman. P.S. I had a 742 and could kick myself in the butt for selling it. Well, after thinking about it, I had a 94 also but not as nice as that one.

[@Win94ae]

I like it! Cool 30-30 too!

[@n.c.108]

nice comparison, but aaaaa, it was a "no brainer". It would have been more interesting to compare against a 44 mag lever action.

[@wildorchid9215]

Can you shoot a garan.

[@SirYvor]

It would be awesome if you could shoot through steelwool with the Glock 19 :D the steelsponge things for dishes , not the soft stuff

[@ClintL63]

put all the sheets together and shoot; different? same?

[@razony]

The moral of the story: Don't be on the wrong end of either 30-30 or 30-06!

[@alexanderludvigsen1893]

😂😂😂 OMG now I think of this as a kids story and...😂😂🤣🤣.... I would love to see that book🤣😂😂

[@manavghuman4976]

Please try .315 also

[@crankyoleman321]

Could you doodle 308 vs 45:70

[@arpadlimanagy7018]

16 ou 15 placas no calibre 30-30?

[@jjgr661]

I still waiting vid watching you shooting big truck tires with different caliber, don't you have A Barrett 50 cal???

[@vanillagorilla6845]

Try a 45-70 buffalo bore vs 30-06

[@clbfilms7893]

If he used a 45-70 he would have to test how many refrigerators it went through

[@gonad84]

Cool cool. Let's see 308 vs 30-06 in similar barrel lengths.

[@larryclare5677]

You know as much about guns as I do video games

[@boedude8496]

30-30 is a throw back round, the old timey stop gap between the 44 mag and a 308. except a 44 mag carbine does almost the same thing. but it's comfortable to shoot so if you have one it's worthy to keep