300 RUM vs 300 WBY vs 300 Norma vs 300 Win Mag

[@A-a-ron480]

I love my 300 rum, I started reloading because a box of 20 was$75-$90, it is a great elk gun.

[@xAeschylusx]

One of the best no question

[@forrestebert5276]

I think the main reason the 300 Win mag is so popular is that it is chambered in almost every rifle platform available in one way or another! Second would be availability of ammo to purchase. The last reason is recoil which the 300 Win mag has the least of the bunch. 30-378 WHBY mag is the King but is way overboard and at about 1,000 rounds or less per barrel comes at a cost other than its ammo or recoil!

[@xAeschylusx]

Yeah you’re right, but so what though. If you burn up the barrel you just go buy another one. Not that any Hunter is ever going to shoot close to 1000 rounds of 30-378 wby though anyways lol

[@chrisirick4317]

I still hunt with my 300 RUM. Love it......

[@Winkler_B_Rudolf_1911]

300 Norma, beauty and performance, and becoming very popular, at least in Europe.

[@MichaelRandall-f1o]

You test ammo for the every day man can buy. This is great information. Thank you.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@bestestusername]

A video about "most powerful" is always opening a can of worms. Great stuff whotee get the conversation going!,😃

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@Blair338RUM]

😆😆

[@shanevonharten3100]

Gotta love it when they hand you a video subject.

[@belovedwarrior483]

I had a 300 rum years ago when it first came out. Good cartridge

[@rayhuggart5214]

Check out 300 canadian or 300 imperial cartridges

[@belovedwarrior483]

@rayhuggart5214 I have but would now go with 375 chytac

[@canuckmagnum5841]

love my .300 Win Mag, Favorite load is a 190gr ABLR at 3000fps, cheers from Canada,

[@LIBBYS_BIGGEST_FAN]

I'm good with my 300 Win Mag. Keep it up WHOOT.

[@Thousand_yard_King]

Yep, me too

[@goodcitizen64]

Same here! I've taken elk, moose, caribou, feral hogs ECT with mine!

[@The_Hi_Life]

Holy smokes that 300 Norma is Incredible!

[@jefferywilliams7687]

@@The_Hi_Life Take a look what it will do with a 230 Grain Bullet.

[@jeffdunn7060]

longer barrel i bet

[@dwaynemeyers5610]

Who T always enjoy your videos don't worry about what's being said. I know many love watching you. Keep it up.

[@Impossibly-Possible]

What cartridge is the most accurate and farther shooting caliber? And what one is available in a rifle that’s not breaking the bank, I want a used barrel/action and I’ll buy a chassis for it and a scope. I need it to shoot accurately out to 1500 yards and have ammunition available.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

There is a lot of hype for big fast cartridges that has nothing to do with the comparison and it is a lot of fun. It is truly the American way. If you want to get impressed, go to the 378 Weatherby Magnum. Mine will shot a 270 Barnes TSX at 3,140 FPS and a 300 grain Partition at 3,000 FPS. It comes with 78 lbs of recoil. Extremely accurate at distance.

[@ssearl3231]

I’m glad you corrected yourself whootee I appreciate a man that is honest

[@michaelmeyers1827]

A really good friend of mine used to love the 300 rum

[@charlesmorgan1879]

I like the comments when comparing any cartridges/ calibers .

[@mikeday3443]

The Warbird is the fastest .30 caliber available. With Lazzeroni's loads in a 26-inch barrel you can expect 3,700 fps from a 150-grain bullet and 3,500 fps from a 180-grain bullet.

[@Muschka01]

Always wanted a 300 NM, hopefully one day.

[@tomquirin4231]

my brotha adam, great great vid n #'s there , thank you for showing us n explainng to us , so cool of you bro , love it , def. would would love to bring down some big game with you , that would be fun indeed out there , ive only shot deer here in central pa n small game n such in the 80's , thanks n talk soon . tom !

[@tomquirin4231]

THANK YOU BROTHA , talk soon adam > tom !

[@goodcitizen64]

I had a .338 Lapua that was way too rough on my bad shoulder and I sold it!

[@georgeclarke4235]

Nice comparison. Don’t worry about the “why didn’t you include x,y,z”. Always going to have that. I built my 30 cal mag on a 98 mauser. Its the 30-338. 338 mag necked down to 30 cal. Basically it’s rge 308 Norma Mag. Norna beat Winchester and Temingto to market with it. Very similar to the 300 WM. I think the 30-338 is more efficient. Was used in 1000 yard matches back in the day. I always like path less travelled.

[@Jeff-s9e]

I hunt with a 300 rum and I love it Ive had it about 5 years ammo is never on the shelf where I live I can reload it though what is your favorite load

[@petersquatch]

I actually have seen the 30-378 Weatherby in stores. Juneau Sportsman’s Warehouse. They also have brass my local Sportsman’s Warehouse here in Provo, Utah. As far as the slingers go, you got me there.

[@scubasteve3032]

Hell, this isn’t boring. This is a bedtime story! Great video!

[@tjdement8229]

Great video. I've got a begara in 300 win. Now you got me looking to expand my 30 caliber arsenal with a 300 wby

[@davidj5491]

Going to be very interesting data for sure! One question though, where does the 300PRC fall in this category?

[@BornAgain2019]

Slightly above the 300 Win especially with bullets above 200 gr.

[@erickvelez4691]

I don't know much about cartridges, just a little, but to be honest I prefer the 300 WM because it would do 99% of the job that the other 300s do but with less recoil, because in hunting everything matters but also the placement of the shot. Also, with the 300 WM I can get ammunition for it even in a bakery or hardware store, even at Walmart. Also, if you look at the new lines of rifles from Ruger, Browning, Bergara, almost none of them come chambered in the most powerful 300, only in the 300 WM. But since I'm from the new school, I think that if I had to buy a 300 it would be in PRC. Thanks Who tee who for your work.

[@Honey_Badger_DC1]

Who tee brother in my book " the most powerful 30 cal" is a moot point....doesn't matter to me....personally I have a 300wsm and it is said to be able to take down any animal in North america....300wsm is all I need....anyway your videos are excellent and so I'd the info contained in them...just keep doing you brother your actual fans will continue to support you ^_^

[@rickbremmer3838]

Love the Norma, I’d loan you mine but I’m up in Canada. Keep up the vids Adam!

[@cpaoutdoors9926]

Love my ultra mag really it depends on a lot of factors they are all excellent 30 cal magnums it really comes down to what you want

[@Hookset2490]

I've hunted with my .300 Win Mag for 34 years and it performed exceptionally every hunt. I've taken deer from 50 yards to out over 700 yards and every time the animal collapsed where it stood with only one exception, and that deer only made it 50 yards. What more can one want from a rifle cartridge? There are slight differences between the .300 Weatherby and the .300 RUM, but the way I see it you're only chasing numbers. All of them will probably get the same results, so I guess it boils to preference and ego.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

300 Win Mag is a wonderful cartridge. I have owned several since 1977. USMC has adopted it as their Long Range Sniper Cartridge. It is a great choice and is popular worldwide. One of the most popular cartridges in Africa. Of all the magnums, it has the best factory ammunition availability.

[@Canadianhunter]

Thank you for clarifying the information. Yes in factory loads you are correct, no one can dispute that. 300 rum and 300 wby are both extremely powerful and very similar in performance. I have a 338 edge for long range shooting and hunting. I have never met another big game hunter who uses it. With 265g nosler accubond lr bullets there is nothing I can’t drop.

[@solodad001]

I have one that Shawn C. built for me. It was nice getting Bertram brass and then later ADG brass.

[@swelch140]

I absolutely love my 300 rum and with reloading it's really tough to beat honestly. That being said also purchased a 338-378 wby that is a tack driver as well with the 262 gr hammers

[@vervi1jw1]

My buddy built a long throated single shot 300 rum. 30in brux barrel with a brake.. He was shooting 230gr bergers over 3k fps. At 665 yards, it hit steel like a freight train.

[@8MM.PRC.HUNTER]

Great comparison of these factory loads. Any of these will kill anything on this continent. The problem with the very largest 30's is that it takes so much more powder to gain only a modest increase in velocity that I just don't feel it's worth the extra recoil for such a small gain. Austin from Reloading Weatherby has had some very impressive velocity and accuracy from his Vanguard. Maybe he would share his pet loads with you.

[@awsomedude9111]

When researching I found the biggest factor was the price of the round. 300WM used to be close to .80cents a round when using ammoseek. Otherwise go to a bigger round.

[@trevorbruette3582]

I don't have one but my brother used to have a 300 RUM he used for a bear hunt on Kodiak Island. Has great footage of the shot at 180 yards. Guide figured it was around 1100lbs bear it didnmove after the shot. I have a half box of ammo for it . Didn't realize it was a mini fortune

[@eduardoolaechea]

Used to own an early Weatherby pre mark v chambered for the 300 wby mag and built around an FN mauser action. Difficult to find ammo where I live and the rifle was too heavy to carry up the mountains. Regretfully I had to sell it. Later I got a Ruger hawkeye chambered in 300 win mag. It weighs less, recoils less, ammo is available, and though I liked the Wby I wouldn't change my Ruger for it.

[@wesgc]

I just picked up a Weatherby Vanguard .300 WBY MAG and took it up to Dead Zero and tried it out for the first time. My shoulder is bruised, and I was holding tight against my shoulder. It has some oooomph.

[@thenarrowgate6995]

At the end of the day all of these are incredible rounds. The Win mag is by far the most popular but the Weatherby is and will always be the most legendary 300 mag hands down. And lets be honest, nothing says you’re serious more than taking a Weatherby afield. I bought mine 25 years ago and it’s terminal to whatever it hits. I only used Weatherby ammo because it’s a little hotter than Remington and Hornady but doubt it really makes a difference at this level of performance

[@chrismuncey3861]

I'm in the process of building a 300 Norma Mag improved. It's not crazy expensive if you have rifle to build off of. I'm having a 338 lapua converted with a Bartlein 30" fluted bull barrel as it shares the same bolt face.

[@js9446]

300 norma is a barrel killer .. my 1st one lasted about 700 rounds

[@wheelchairhillbilly]

Case capacity is all the information you need to know which one has more power than another. As far as I know, the 300wby has very similar case capacity as the 300 norma. I'm sure 30-378s aren't very popular out east, but there are quite a few around out here.

[@bruce6099]

Berger also load 300 norma. I can push 225 eldms to 3060 in mine using retumbo. I gave up that speed for more consistency with h1000 at 2940fps. Before I was using the 225 eldm I used the 208 eldm at 3160fps using retumbo.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

Smart choice. The beauty of a large capacity case is that you don’t have to over pressure them to get high velocity with heavy for bore diameter bullets.

[@richardwoodworth549]

I really love my 300 RUM, it is in the store out here and the ammo is cheaper in our stores than the Weatherby. I think out west you would see more of the RUM stuff including 7MM. Be curious to see compared to 30 Nosler, I believe Nosler loads all of those except the Norma, so could compare all with the same brand ammo

[@hawaiiangunner]

I love 3300rum. I've been hand loading for that cartridge for over 20 years. I just wish somebody would make a action long enough to take advantage of the new hire BC Bullets

[@victorhasselblad6458]

Should be A good show. Where does the 30-378 fall in?? I have A Tika chambered in this caliber.Looking forward to the show. Thank you.

[@KINGRODP]

The Weatherby 30-378 is THE MOST POWERFUL commercially available .30 cal. Period. I was looking for this comment!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I talk about that in this video it doesn't count if I have never seen one and I don't know anyone that has one

[@douglasborgaro6801]

@Who Tee Who I got very close to buying one, until I discovered that barrel life is not in my acceptable range. The more powder you drive through that 30 caliber bore, the more that barrel life will suffer. This is especially true when you surpass 300 Weatherby. Although not as severe as 30-378, the RUM is not different. For a slight increase in powder and what I have found to be an insignificant increase in velocity, barrel life drops to such an extent that practicality is a question. When I say insignificant velocity advantage, I’m talking about up to 90 fps. It is not a surprise accomplishment to achieve 3350-60 from a 180 grain load & over 3100 fps with a 200 grain Weatherby load. I have done just that with no pressure indicators whatsoever. I know others that have done the very same. Also, the Weatherby offers more consistent performance from lighter 30 caliber loads of 165 grain and less. The RUM is an impressive round! No argument! But the real difference between it and the 300 Weatherby is not truly distinguishable in the field. As far as accuracy results, the Weatherby certainly has an impressive track record. Some have tried to argue that the lack of a belt makes the RUM more accurate. I disagree with this, particularly with good quality cases. There is no substantive evidence to support the accuracy claim. I will concede that the unbelted case will last longer overall.

[@oblivionpro69]

The 30-378 is really so overbore that it’s a waste of gunpowder with anything less than a 30 to 32 inch barrel. Many people consider it more of a novelty.

[@MarktheSharkC]

@@oblivionpro69 ask the American bison and an Asian water buffalo and a Tibetan yak how much of a novelty 30-378 is. They are hanging on my wall!

[@georgeversluis8442]

You reinforce my opinion of the 300 rum, I have a 700 sendero which is my favorite

[@jberry1982]

I always liked the norma best

[@Blair338RUM]

300 RUM IF HANDLOADED is more powerful. Forget the factory numbers.

[@konzaros7482]

Barrel burners lol, much prefer the 338 myself, good video 👏

[@KINGRODP]

The Weatherby 30-378 is THE MOST POWERFUL commercially available .30 cal. Period.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I talk about that in the video...

[@KINGRODP]

@@WHOTEEWHO I'm sorry sir. My apologies. I spoke to soon.

[@YELLTELL]

The most powerful .30 cal potato chucker is made by me. PERIOD!

[@ericjeske153]

Look at the 338 ultra mag! Stupid crazy!!

[@michaelmeyers1827]

He was only 130 lbs at most

[@louisfeuer9714]

Awesome video thank you . Also I'm wondering your opinion, I was thinking about purchasing the Ruger precision rifle 300 Win Mag, do you know if that's a good rifle for the money?? I trust your feedback thank you in advance.👍👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Many people love them. I borrowed one in 308 one time and was not impressed with the groups I got.

[@louisfeuer9714]

@@WHOTEEWHO I'm doing some more research but I'm kind of thinking that I would get it chambered in 300 Win Mag or 300 PRC. I'm seeing that the PRC has less drop then the 300 Win Mag. Both cartridges around the same price. I'm undecided which one I should get Chambered for it. I'm not really familiar with the 300 PRC. But from what I see it's getting good numbers.

[@mollybug9325]

I use the Nosler reload data and the 300 RUM is able to be loaded 3357 fps, 180 grain bullet. The 30-378 only loads to 3264 fts, 180 grain bullet. But I know these are not factory loads.

[@Dustin-gf9su]

There's just something about a Weatherby every cartage made Weatherby has something that edges it out sometimes by a little like the win mag vs the wby mag or completely blows it away like the 30-378

[@Junkjman1]

I have a 308 norma mag it is the same as the 300 win mag. Norma change from a belted cartridge to a none belted. Any of the 300's are great cartridges, premium ammo make a difference as well. I have 3 Weatherby mags just because when my dad bought me one. I was 14 when the started the Vanguard line and they were affordable. To me the best 300 will always be the one you have at home.

[@bobbellew9240]

I've have ocean front properties in Arizona..... dude factory/ handloading 180s??? Go to 230/ 240 grain bullots😅

[@mikewerger614]

I loved my 300 ultra also had the 30-378 really liked it as well but recoil is a bit much

[@christianborghi7544]

Nice to compare the weatherby 30-378 to the others

[@dennisbaker7112]

I have a 300 RUM in a Rem 700 Sendaro. It's a great round .

[@danblumel]

why not include the 300 PRC ?? Did you forget it ? I would either buy the Win Mag or the 300 PRC. The RUM is just "over the top" to me, and Weatherby ammo is too expensive.

[@micahfries7878]

300 Norma has become my new dream cartridge. I'll probably save my money for an Accuracy International in that caliber.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Very cool

[@chrisaerts6489]

Im guessing the PRC didnt make the cut with limited ammo yet. Awesome charts

[@budlite8207]

When I use to pay attention, the 300 Norma was called a 308 Norma. Don't know if they're the same or it's a new cartridge. It's easy to load a 300 Win Mag to over 3100 fps with 180gr bullets.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

They are not. 308 Norma Mag is very close to a 300 Win Mag. 300 Norma Mag will match the 30-378.

[@jefferywilliams7687]

The 300 Norma Mag was developed as the new sniper cartridge in Europe. It is an excellent round! It will push a. 215 over 3,000 FPS and a 230 over 2,950 FPS.

[@jakedavid8187]

300 wsm is king (not but I like mine) great content man keep it coming!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching. 300wsm almost identical to 300 win mag

[@jefferywilliams7687]

The 300 WSM is a great cartridge. It’s a 300 Win Mag light. Not quite a 300 Win Mag Heavy. Has great performance and accuracy in a compact package. However, the lawsuit changed everything for all WSM & WSSM over paying out royalties.

[@chrisevansgunshorsesranchi699]

Great video on ballistics. The good thing about the big 300's they kill on both ends. 180 gr boo lit at 3300 fps WOW. I am the biggest sissy in town when it comes to recoil. I have no interest in muzzle brakes. I have a 308 norma mag/ 30-338 win mag (depends on who is calling it) in a 1960's Sako finbear Sweet rifle. A 180 gr going about 2900 fps plenty of gun for me.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

💪💪

[@jacobwalker1729]

Could you do a comparison of the Ruger American GII vs the Savage 110?

[@floydcoleman3044]

What about the 30-378 h&h is suppose to be the best 30 caliber right now

[@kingy300wby]

I just watched the video that Gavin has with the Remington 700 chambered in 300 rum and he shot 2 different types of Remington ammo and they were both running at 2900fps with 180gr!! Really shocked as that is extremely slow for that cartridge??

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That is very slow

[@kingy300wby]

Sure is mate have you tested many rum loads?

[@KristofferEngstrom]

I guess its a problem compairing bullet drop, as it says more about the BC and if its not the same bullet and weight for every cartridge, it does not tell that much. I guess muzzle velocity with the same bullet weight is the only way to say "how powerful it is". The bullet choice when it comes to BC can change the drop from a "stone" to a "fighter jet" in every cartridge.

[@Thousand_yard_King]

If I ever replace my 300 win mag, I am going for the 338 Norma Mag. The power behind it is actually shocking to behold

[@erikleirmo9147]

So question 300 mag rum or weatherby which one would you buy since I won’t buy a prc because no one’s putting the right barrel length on their rifle for them

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Ooh that's tough. Ammo steep for both of em. I'd go rum

[@erikleirmo9147]

@ ya now if only I could find an old model 700 before tikka knocked them off the throne love 90s model 700s and 70s

[@johnlarsen4209]

Not sure why you leave out the 30 Nosler with 3200FPS 180gr factory load.

[@brettblose1658]

Going by published handload data for 'factory' rifles. The 30-378 Wby is the most powerful, 300 RUM is second, 300 Wby and 300 Norma Mag are neck and neck for 3rd.

[@briansteele1378]

Love my 300 WM.

[@markcarraway879]

Remington Core-Lokt 180 Weatherby mag lists Muzzle Velocity at 3890 fps and Muzzle Energy at 3120 ft lbs. Do you mean MV or ME on your chart that lists MV at 3120???

[@jeffreydoebler8367]

30 nosler and 300 prc would have made this even more interesting but still good info

[@kraigvollmer788]

I load all my ammo from the start no matter what rifle I get I load it from the start very rare that I buy factory shells.

[@jeffdunn7060]

whats the barrel length on the norma 28"?

[@derekedgley5074]

What about the Lazzeroni 308 Warbird

[@keithponchillia421]

I do believe that the military uses the Norma for some applications in their sniper rifles.

[@robertburgard8588]

Except for the Norma and the newer prc, most of those are not loaded to their full potential. As long as your rifle has the twist rate, you can get close to those numbers that the Norma is putting up with the RUM or the weatherby. The win can get pretty close to if you allow yourself to load beyond COAL.

[@caesar5555]

No PRC?

[@lisasapp5680]

30 Nosler is also up there in terms of performance.

[@Thepaintballinfool]

How does 300 prc stack up?

[@ericjeske153]

You should take to my to my Dad ! He has all the rum mags!! Collect them. I personally don’t like shooting them! But then again he calls me a wimp!!

[@fredlusk1601]

All the big 30s are good calibers. They are all capable of taking any north american big game. There should be no controversy because it boils down to personal preference.

[@MeMadeIt]

I always thought the 30-378 Weatherby Mag was king of the 30's. Something like +3400fps with 180gr.

[@P.J.GABRIEL-dv2bv]

300 RUM was my first rifle took my first moose with it

[@DS-gd1xw]

What about 300 PRC?. Superior to 300wm

[@2Atyrannyresponseunit]

Since no company makes a 300 prc with 180 gr bullas let use the outfitter 190, at 500 yrd. velocity 2229, energy 2095, drop -36.

[@cowboyjeff1911]

Really Fun Video 📹

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@alraybaca6235]

Awesome

[@steveware5311]

What about the 300 wsm ?

[@dougsadler5923]

If you use weatherby ammo instead of Remington or any other brand it makes a big difference

[@stgraves260]

300 Rum case capacity is 110.2 grains of Water. 30-378 Weatherby is 130 grains of water. 30 Nosler 89.8 grains of water. Now when it comes to accuracy I would put my money on the 300 Norma Mag. I’m not saying none of the other calculations bets can’t be accurate. I’m just saying tnat the 300 Norma would probably be the most accurate.

[@trentfox6436]

So looking at all the data the win mag is not far behind the others but the selling point for me is the brass are cheaper and it uses a lot less powder so I’ll stick with my win mag

[@TomClark-kj8zs]

What about 300 H&H mag ?

[@joshrunion5594]

Where the Rum really starts to shine is anything above a 180 grainer. It will push a 220 eldx the same speed a 300 weatherby pushes a 200 eldx