300wsm vs 300wm - Chronograph speeds

[@russellkeeling9712]

I don't know what happened to the .300 mag. but 3000 feet per second is a normal muzzle velocity for it.

[@daviddelle774]

Love that little WSM. Back when it was first introduced I contacted a custom barrel maker and had a Thompson Encore pistol barrel made for it. They hadn't even starting selling ammo for it when I got my barrel. Talk about fun to shoot! Double hearing protection was a must! 16" barrel with a muzzle brake, sometimes other shooters were bothered by it because of the enclosed cinder block building at the range and would pack up and leave.That gun in an enclosed space is wicked on the ole ear drums! When I started reloading for it I was working up loads trying to get to published velocities and was having troubles. Flattened primers and had a few cases crack just above the shoulder. Then I remember...... 16 INCH BARREL!!!! Advertised speeds are from 24" barrels. I got lucky that I didn't blow up the gun. I do have a load that is very close to the advertised velocity and only slightly flattens primers. (hunting only) My "just punchin holes" load is a light load.

[@JimmieJoeSparky]

It’s like a drag race for riffles. I love ❤️ it!

[@patobrien7009]

Don't have a 300WM. Do have a 300 WSM. Nothing I have hit with has ever taken even 1 step.

[@125varma]

Damn :O

[@ericoverdorff8880]

I have a 300wm. Shot a moose through the lungs and it stated to walk away . Put another round in his head and he dropped. Shot another bull moose with it, hit him high in the neck. He was dead before he hit the ground. The lung shot went through and through. The neck shot did not. Their necks are thick solid muscle though. Both with 180 grain lead tips.

[@SkellyWaggs]

you must be shooting squirrels then 💀 or you’re only doing headshots.

[@leonardogarcia2506]

Steele and paper don’t have legs. Lmao! It’s a joke!

[@patobrien7009]

Arizona, desert mule deer - 340 yds. Coues deer - 230 yds, 350 yds, and 445 yds. All were high shoulder hits. All dropped in their tracks.

[@cameroncassel994]

We have the browning abolt in 300 win mag. Ours are loaded with 180 ttsx with 80gr of reloader 26 it pulls right around 3200fps. Factory ammo never give you the potential of what your firearm can do unfortunately. Great video.

[@jagzilla1398]

That 300wsm looks like a sweet round..I'd like to convert my AR-10 to it..But with ammo prices .308 is enough of a wallet killer..

[@danc9866]

I today learned they make those uppers

[@jagzilla1398]

@@danc9866 They say that there are issues with the extractors. But getting a 30% increase in ft-lbf with only a small reduction in capacity .i.e. a 25 round 308 will hold 22 300wsm..On paper it looks good..But how accurate and reliable is it? Hellofa mag dump tho..If you loaded them up with .30 API rounds I don't think too many things short of a tank would still be standing after that mag dump..

[@danc9866]

Jagzilla I’m building a .308 ar for hunting but I think I’m picking up a howa 1500 chambered in 300wsm for $350 with a scope.

[@R32R38]

@@danc9866 That's a super deal.

[@danc9866]

R32R38 why I think I’ll be picking it up

[@jimdavis3150]

I've seen the results of both on Moose,Elk, Deer, black bear and grizzly and both worked very well.

[@rooster3019]

Agree; dead is dead, wounded is wounded, misses is missed.

[@heathetthaxton3467]

I'd like to see 7mm wsm vs 300 wsm compared to reg 300 mag and 7mm mag

[@lifebiker105]

I can't wait to see it Adam your doing a good one today thank you for the videos Adam

[@gtbirdleg]

thanks WHO-TEE-WHO, I HAVE RECCOMENDED YOUR CHANNEL TO SOME OF MY GUN FRIENDS, AND THEY SAID THEY LOVE IT!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thank you GT!

[@stephanM5]

Great video. The reason the the 300 WSM was faster was due to the powder in the shorter shell casing was closer to the primer charge thus it deflagrated that much quicker and forcefully than the longer 300 wm shell. WSM rounds have a flatter trajectory than the WinMag making it more accurate which is why competitive shooters prefer the WSM. Here's an idea that I think many of your subscribers would really enjoy to see from both an entertainment and scientific point of view with either of these rounds or better yet a 50 cal BMG Slap round. 1/Take a jug of water and set it on top of a stack of a dozen or so bricks with spaces between the bricks like you were going to karate chop them. 2/Since we all know that water cannot be compressed you shoot the jug of water and see how many bricks under the jug can be cracked stemming from the explosion of the bullet striking the water jug. 3/For the next shot we again repeat everything except this time we shoot the jug with reinforcing on all sides of the jug,(cement blocks or bags of sand would be best) at the rear of the jug and across the top, beside and in front of the jug leaving enough space for the bullet to hit the jug unobstructed so all of the explosive force is directed downward into the bricks and see how many bricks can be smashed or cracked by the concussive force of the water. I'm willing to bet that not only will the bricks be cracked but pulverized. 4/With the use of your slow motion camera this experiment would scientifically demonstrate the kinetic force of any bullet much more accurately than merely shooting though a bunch of paper plates or wooden boards as it would capture the energy of the bullet using water as the medium to destroy objects. Note: A buddy of mine used to be a hard rock miner which meant he was experienced in using dynamite. He said if he put even a shovel full of dirt over the sticks of dynamite the resulting explosive force directed into the rock would be multiplied many times. It is this phenomenon that I would like to see duplicated with a high velocity bullet. Knowing water is not compressible and with a fast travelling bullet north of 3000 fps striking a jug of water would act similar to dynamite and destroy anything that was near it. You can use this idea to pretty much blow up anything and you don't need dynamite. FYI In the industrial arena highly pressurized water is used as a blade to cut steel like a plasma cutter.

[@warrenharrison9490]

👍👍

[@ronniesmith9568]

That's a awesome idea

[@donaldbougie694]

Yes the wsm is more accutate!

[@user-rs8up2ye7k]

@@donaldbougie694 But is it?

[@chrishelms1967]

Proofs in the pudding....300WSM

[@troyrinehart989]

I bought a model 70 Winchester chambered in 300 wsm about 6 yrs ago. One of my favorites by far. The only advantage to the 300 Win mag is regarding heavier grain bullets, and the available space for them.

[@talonmathis4426]

Man I had that same gun in the black shadow I took many many big bucks with it sold it if I could find one again she wouldnt leave. Take care of her man.

[@nativeone327]

How about those two calibers and a pile of paper plates, I’m liking that 300wsm, may have to buy one and add to my collection.....

[@theronjump4266]

They're basically the same. Factory rounds have different charge weights that vary from round to round. The closest tolerances for consistent powder charges I've found come from nosler and hornady. In green box and white box and federal I've seen as big a gap in charges as 4 grains variance between each.

[@robertchapman4488]

I shoot 150 to 165 grain for Whitetail 180s will go in the size of your pinky and come out the size of your pinky the 180 construction is too tough for Whitetail but good for elk moose and bear.

[@clintkamerzell1041]

Bonded or all copper bullets, yes.

[@nmelkhunter1]

The velocity on the 300 Win Mag really surprised me. It’s about 60-70 FPS slower than I would expected.

[@mdd1963]

In that rifle, with that one single unknown manufacturer's round tested... yes, it was slower than expected.

[@Gitfidlpickr]

I like to watch WHO TEE WHO .. and I Like to compare cartridges and loads in videos BUT there are so many excellent cartridges in both rifle and pistol for almost any application. One really has to think about what use a gun will be put to before selecting one over another. .. where it will be shot, what is the most likely target, what are ambient conditions (wet, dry, cold, hot, flat, steep, etc). Is it going to be carried in the field for long hikes? The shooter: new, experienced .. what? In the old days we had to modify for conditions (lke nail polish over primers or condoms on muzzles) Also what will a shooter be wearing (big thick reefer or light desert wear?) WHO TEE WHO is fun to watch!

[@trippin4168]

WHO_TEE_WHO for president.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@garyhopkinssr8561]

I said it before and I'll say it again you're just too cool man

[@TimMayville]

Just bought a 26" 300 WSM barrel upper setup for testing. I'm shooting the 180gr Federal Deer Thug bonded ammo that sports 2975fps and 3535energy at the muzzle.. I think that's from a 22 or 24" so, I'm wondering if it'll break 3k with the longer barrel..

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

I love the 300 WSM and I was sure it was gonna be the winner.

[@joshradford1989]

That flinch at 2:08

[@natescott8632]

The 300wsm and 300 win mag are virtually twins with ballistics. Both packs a big punch, and it really comes down to if someone wants long action or short action. I have a browning ab3 300wsm only because I dropped $50 on a gun raffle. Love the gun tho!!!

[@egggaming3658]

Love your videos keep doing what ya do man

[@martinmason392]

Hi, love your videos. Got a challenge for you to try if you want to. Just bought a 7mm mag and trying lots of different rounds. I've been shooting a 5/8 steel plate and some go through it but others barely scratch it, both are hunting rounds. The Sako arrowhead ll barely take the paint off, but, the Federal Vital shock go through it clean. My buddies think that it would work opposite on flesh and the Sako rounds would do more damage than Federals. So two pork shoulders would prove the truth here. Full description of both. Sako 7mm Rem Mag 407B Arrowhead ll swift scirocco ll 9,7 g 150gr. And the Federals are Vital Shock 180 grain.

[@Mr480junkie]

300 WSM is a sweet round ! I've had mine since 2001 and still love to shoot it.

[@donaldbougie694]

Me to,the same year with you.

[@kaboom362]

At first I thought you may have contacted the chronograph. I guess the concussion rocked the camera.

[@deltatango5086]

I love your channel... Real results... Not paper results. Thanx WTW 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Really appreciate you watching delta!

[@deltatango5086]

@@WHOTEEWHO If possible... A smith and Wesson M&P II vs ruger AR556 would be great... If possible.. No pressure... At your leisure

[@frankpryor4839]

I'll be darn, the Fat Boy Won. That was interesting, learned something today visual... I didn't have to go read and research, watched it happen. That was a cool comparison. That's a big deal 3000+ fps vs 2800+ fps with the same bullet.

[@Oculus729]

If you understood physics you would understand why the short fat cartridge won the velocity contest. Let me help. Cut both the cases in half length wise so you can see the interior if the casing. The path from the primer to anywhere inside the 300 wsm is shorter than the 300 wm. What this means is the powder burns faster and hotter, thus more velocity. All the short fat cartridges are more efficient in this way. What is remarkable is that it too the arms and ammo makes so long (how many decades?) to figure this out.

[@RMosher11]

Something is way off with the .300 Win mag. Just about any factory ammo 180 grain out of a 24 inch barrel should be in the 2,950 - 3,050 fps range.

[@dinikin]

24 vs 26 inch barrels he was shooting, otherwise should have been closer

[@cperine39]

I’m a nerd and my favorite is still the tried and true 45-70 Government. Woot woot. 🤓

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

Charlie P I’ve had one on my bucket list forever, and I’m looking at the Henry All Weather Model or the new X Model . There’s just something about holding a .45-70 in your hands that gives you the same confidence as driving a 379 Peterbuilt semi truck , when you know there isn’t much that it wouldn’t flatten lol 😂

[@willbranson3216]

You bought 2 rifles just so you could chronograph 1 round through each? My Model Remington 700, in 300 Remington Ultra Mag, chronographed 3,495 fps at 15 feet, using Barnes reloading manual data for Reloder 25. However, it had a 28 inch custom barrel. The short, fatter case of the 300 WSM with a rebated rim is likely not as good at feeding as the 300 Win Mag.

[@kevinmartin2096]

300 WSM is so underrated

[@louiskiser9989]

Just got a 300wsmRDF 26in barrel been loading Nosler 150gr Acubond,seems to like it very good need to crony it

[@MrJtin69]

Loving the 300 wsm more i learn and got one

[@josephkool8411]

You must be wealthy to afford all these amazing guns. I'm not jealous I'm envious, that means I'm happy for you

[@chrislang5659]

You're making me want to buy a new gun!

[@elmartillo7931]

another great video, thanks again!

[@russellkeeling4387]

I think you should try the .300 win mag again. The error flash and the velocity of 2892 seems slow. There's no point in a .300 mag if the velocity is barely faster than a 30-06. My chronograph shows a little over 3100 fps for my 180 gr. loads in the .300 win mag.

[@RalphReagan]

Great video. I was talking to my ammo vendor. She said she was low on everything even .22.

[@robdegraw1568]

How about the water jug or paper plates?

[@abckirov1929]

I like the idea of watching enough of your videos to recognize your 300WM before you even mention its a Remington 770.

[@vincentcronin3361]

id love to see 300 wsm vs clay blocks or even the water jugs! maybe the ol paper plate test!

[@geoffreyjones2000]

Now I wonder which one flies better

[@geraldblackburn4883]

Thank you for the rifle model, I would like to have a 7mm RM, but I am a .300 type and this is really strong and another, Ron Spomer says this gun is really good to almost 400 yards.

[@gearhead682010]

I’ve had a Savage model 110 chambered in 7mm Remington Mag with 150 grain rounds and I can guarantee that they’d be good for well beyond 400 meters, fyi I could stretch bullet holes at 200 meters with it. Factory stock no work whatsoever done to it

[@troyholder1]

The 300 win mag shines with bullets from 200 to 220 grain, where the wsm does not. No reason to buy a 300 win mag and shoot light bullets, you can do that with a 30-06 just fine.

[@jumpy5064]

yea but for hunting there isn’t really a need for anything past 200. 300 wsm handles anything from 110 to 200 just fine. plus most guys are only gonna shoot 150,165,180 anyway

[@nmelkhunter1]

A 180 grain is considered the ideal all around weight for the 300 WM. Great ballistics and terminal performance for bull elk or better game.

[@KeystoneTexan]

@@nmelkhunter1 i prefer the 165 grain in any 30 caliber

[@nmelkhunter1]

@@KeystoneTexan I thinks it’s great for a 308 or a 30-06, but prefer 180-200 in the magnum cartridges. Take care and best of luck in the field.

[@WayStedYou]

@@KeystoneTexan 150 for 308 165 for 30 06 and 180 for 300 win mag

[@timothym2241]

Pretty much interchangeable with common bullet weights. Thanks for the video.

[@tdmjason]

i think they made short mag to get rid of the belt at bottom of the bullet on the 300 win mag (extra ring above primer/extractor slot) some say that causes accuracy problems and the neck of the 300 win mag say is too short to hold proper pressure on the bullet plus the bullet extends into the powder chamber more than it theoretically should - overall i think the short mag was made to help get rid of these "so called" problems of the 300 win mag. This is just what i have heard so it may or may not be right or whatever .

[@davidayres9865]

Can you do a review on the Browning X-bolt, Hell's Canyon Speed, chambered in .300 WSM, please??

[@andrewengle5959]

Zooming. I like the short mag

[@warrenharrison9490]

Dang missed it. But I'm here catching up 👍

[@frankwrogg2515]

I think there was something wrong with the first measurement, as that is low for a 300 magnum.

[@darylkenny4562]

Agreed. It should have been in the 2950 range I think.

[@gsp2west]

I'm sure you realize that both could be loaded to out perform the other. Unless you used the same manufacture for both rounds its really not apples to apples. MY next purchase is going to be the Savage Ultralite in 300WSM.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love my 300wsm

[@jakethimsen7879]

did you end up getting that savage ultralite in 300wsm...been looking into that one for elk

[@nicholasbarcomb2324]

Might be good for something, just not sure what yet. I have several 325 WSM brass laying around and may just turn them into a 366 Kestrel Improved. We'll see, we'll see.

[@Leverguns50]

I like the 300 Winchester short mag, it works good in my lever action

[@LightTackleEthusiast]

Hmmmmmm what's the barrel length on the 300wm? Mine has a 26" barrel with 180 grainers i usually get around 3100-3300 depending on the ammo manufacturer.. I suspect the 770 has a 22" barrel a common length with most hunting rifles

[@donaldbougie694]

The 770 have 24 inch barrel and the 300 wsm too.

[@louiskiser9989]

I have the 3most popular WSM,s love all 3

[@goldneckprospecting4534]

I have both. If I had to punch out at a further target I would grab my 300win, only because my remington has a longer barrel than my tika. Both are out standing rounds.

[@ragnardanneskajold1880]

Is your Tika in .300 wsm? How do you manage recoil?

[@huntingfanatic9599]

Limbsaver makes a model for the tikka

[@randyjohnson6845]

I think the ERROR means don't turn your head away so fast and shot again.i think there speeds are much closer.ERROR means something

[@KeystoneTexan]

I have both! Can’t go wrong with either one.

[@tomboyer2469]

What is the barrel length? Both should same length for an accurate comparison

[@ethanamldon5657]

My favorite short mag is the 270 wsm

[@rooster3019]

This nerdy guy wishes that you would have taken an empty case of each and determined the propellant volume using water or fine sand. By looks, the volumes would be close to eqaul or maybe the short fat case hold a bit more.

[@longshot5738]

Exactly my Sentiments Rooster!

[@russellkeeling4387]

I don't think I have a strong enough tripod for my chronograph because mine has to be about 15 feet in front of the muzzle or it gets blown over, especially with magnum rifles.

[@BuggaBoy69]

I love my 300 short mag, it weighs about a pound less than my uncles 300wm but kicks just the same and shoots straight to 300yds

[@mdd1963]

00:03 Although the same bullet weight, is it safe to assume these loads are also from different ammo manufacturers? (Might have been nice to compare Remington vs. Remington, and WInchester vs WInchester, and Federal vs. Federal, vice just two (unnamed) random loadings that might skew folks into thinking one is drastically better or worse than another based on a sample size of exactly 1 random round per each loading....

[@JonR35]

Do 3 to 5 rounds each

[@michaelyoakum7093]

Would like to see 44 mag vs 454 casual clay block

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Did 44 mag vs 500 mag already

[@marioruiz7496]

You were ready for that 300 wm recoil on an empty chamber. I think that's a win for the 300 wm lol

[@R32R38]

According to recoil tables there isn't much difference between the two rounds. Neither one is suitable for anyone without many years of shooting experience.

[@Kev-3006]

LoL FLINCH!

[@garrytalley8009]

@@R32R38 I guess you never heard of a muzzle brake. I have a 300 Win Mag with a high quality recoil reducing brake that doesn't kick any worse than a 260 Remington. And the brake does not reduce accuracy. With less recoil in enhances accuracy. 2.75 - 3 in. 5 shot groups at 300 yards with a 24 power scope.

[@R32R38]

@@garrytalley8009 Using a muzzle break at a busy public range is a bad idea.

[@garrytalley8009]

@@R32R38 I don't know about what ranges you shoot at, but they all wear ear protection at the ones I have shot at. I have a 300 Win Mag I have shot at a public range. You just ask everyone to put their protection on before shooting.

[@TheJohndeere212]

I am thinking about getting one of the 300 caliber rifle in the future.

[@brucecoleman7412]

I guess I’m a paper plate guy! Watermelons are cool too!

[@HeavyMetalGuns]

Digging both those rifles!!

[@GlennLRiggs]

Seems the comparison is not very accurate due different rifle makers...barrel length and rifle twist....just something to wonder about....but I due beleive the difference between the 2 cartridges the animal being hit cannot tell the difference...in my opinion the Short Winchester Magnum would get the tip to be the better choice because of it being in short action and rifle weighing less if that makes a difference to some...

[@lurking0death]

How much powder in each cartridge? Same powder, different powder?

[@briangabriel4165]

To close the chronograph. This test needs a do over as there's no way the win mag is that slow.

[@briangabriel4165]

@Yuck Foutube not sure what chart you are looking at but it's wrong. The win mag break 300 easy even with 190gr pills.

[@DRAGONRIDER385]

Kind of speedy. Thanks for the video.

[@warrenharrison9490]

Have to admit I was nervous you might hit the chronograph at those close distances becuase of the offset of the scope to bore.. 😬

[@RayBlackburn]

The WSM beats the regular win mag because of the efficiency of the powder burn in the smaller fatter case Funny part is I just chronographed 180 grain bullets from my DB10ELB308 and got 2660 fps which believe me is plenty enough to kill a dinosaur LOL There is actually no need for any of the magnums anymore and all I see is people buying them because so and so has one so they want one also with no clue how they never needed one to begin with Pisses people off when I prove the 7mm08 beats the 300 win mag FPE past 800 yards for same size bullets but oh well if facts piss people off they must be democrats anyway LOL

[@juliansemenuk2727]

I just bought a new winchester model 70 super shadow in 300 wsm for 375. Not a scratch on it

[@untermench3502]

Deer hears click and runs off laughing.

[@izuksammy]

Wider cases are more efficient but longer cases feed better.

[@ytown4]

You need 20 rounds of each to get accurate data.

[@jtegland]

Thanks! I still want to see a Hog hunt with the 350 Legend.

[@leesanders8824]

I have a Browning a bolt in 300wsm. Sweet shooting rifle after I put a limbsaver pad on it. The only downfall is that fat round doesn't like to feed reliably. Not as much an issue with the original. Ammo is a little scarcer too

[@carbonspyder235]

20 years and never have I had a feed problem with A-Bolt 300 wsm !!! Maybe I'm just lucky !!!

[@leesanders8824]

@@carbonspyder235 you must've gotten one of the very first ones. The round came out in 01.

[@carbonspyder235]

@@leesanders8824 I did get it in 01 when they first come out and ammo was hard to find those first couple years but it become my goto hunting rifle. Have a great day !!!

[@leesanders8824]

@@carbonspyder235Good to hear. Mine doesn't do it all the time by any means but it seems to have issues from time to time. My wife has one in .243 with no issues whatsoever.

[@hayzenovy4432]

Been using a savage 10 wsm for five years hunting, never a feed issue to date. Glad to be one of the lucky ones.

[@jonathankelly9484]

They'll both definitely blow your lungs out🤣

[@tomjones7285]

So i have a question. If you dont have either one. And are looking to add one to the collection having both what one would you say to get? The straight up 300win-mag or the wsm? Thats for your suggestion in advance buddy. Who-tee-who

[@obbyjep7597]

interesting, a few friends with the wsm always talk it up haha.. iv seen a few weatherby vangaurd rifles in 6.5 300 mag that iv been interested in, kinda like a really big 22 250. Not expenseve either

[@jeeaaenlourens1434]

I admit it, I thought the winmag would be faster because it's more aerodynamic: got it wrong though😁. Love your shirt btw!

[@oncall21]

I'm not 'nerdy' and i do appreciate you going to all the effort to make a video and upload it. But yes you need to get the average of at least five shots from each calibre and take the average figure. Also I don;t know what barrel lengths you are running but the 300WSM only requires 23" to achieve peak velocity where as the 300 Win Mag requires a 26" barrel. Either way they are both on a par in real hunting terms. Thanks for sharing.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That is pretty nerdy 😆

[@michaelroth3535]

How about barrel lengths??

[@stevensreview143]

300 Wsm will be faster

[@edgarlombera7066]

With what lighter bullets? Maybe, but how about you load up 200-220gr bullets and you’ll see where the 300 win mag shines

[@oncall21]

@@edgarlombera7066 in that bullet weight you're entering the 325WSM/338 Win Mag cartridges.

[@stevekelley2341]

How about doing s 50 bmg vs 408 chetec

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Have to hit the lottery first

[@stevekelley2341]

@@WHOTEEWHO well hurry up, I want to see the video. Lol

[@KINGRODP]

Lol .408 Cheytac is Ridiculously expensive. You should sponsor it and let him shoot it.

[@randyschaff8939]

Those are factory loads🇨🇦🤠

[@imfree8500]

I would love to find a stock like you have holding that 770

[@michaelltaylor5149]

Both are tops.

[@jamesskidmore5776]

I'm thinking about getting a 300 win-mag around Thanksgiving/Christmas time

[@richki.24]

The only draw back is the ammo pricing ... I looked up quite a few and they are expensive ...

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

Now you need a regular belt less 300 ultra mag to test.

[@juliusjames5577]

I’m not positive your chrony read the first shot correctly. You should get 3100 hundred FPS all day with 180 gr. bullet out of a .300 win. mag. Is it possible your shooting to close to chrony and muzzle blast is affecting the reading? I sure saw it shake when you shot.

[@tiagotellestelles6784]

Great video friend. again another very cool video. I have a 300 win Mag rifle just like the American Sniper from the movie. I use it to hunt Java pig here in Brazil near the capital Brasília. The WSM rifle in Brazil is few people who have it. They say that the 300 WSM rifle has more precision than the 300 Win Mag rifle, is that true ???? Ótimo video amigo. novamente mais um vídeo muito legal. eu tenho um fuzil 300 win Mag igual do Sniper americano do filme. uso ele para caçar Java porco aqui no Brasil perto da capital Brasília. O fuzil WSM no Brasil é poucas pessoas que tem ele. Falam que o fuzil 300 WSM tem mais precisão que o fuzil 300 Win Mag isso é verdade????

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

Tiago Telles Telles ... I can tell you that my .300WSM ( Browning A-bolt hunter field model with a 23” barrel) was extremely accurate with the Winchester 180 grain XP3’s. It replaced my .300 Win Mag Browning A-bolt Stainless Stalker 26” barrel with a BOSS muzzle break system that was as equally accurate ( once the BOSS system was dialed in to a sweet spot tailored to a specific ammo of various types) So I cannot comment on the veracity of the .300 WSM being more accurate, however I can tell you that the science behind that theory ( as advertised by the many shooting and outdoor publications that were promoting the WSM during its debut ) had to do with the short mag being head spaced off of the sharp shoulder and giving it better consistency, where as the traditional Win Mag is head-spaced off of its belted case , which can create variances depending on the manufacturer of the case brass itself . Also , the shorter fatter case in the short mag burns powder optimally within the case itself, which allows it to effectively utilize the shorter barrel. The traditional Win Mag has a longer case and requires a longer barrel to burn the powder while the charge travels down the barrel, allowing it to reach its full potential for building the gas pressure by giving the powder a complete burn . This simple fact also renders the WSM short mag / short barrel rifles to produce a cleaner burn and less barrel fouling due to less unspent powder traveling down the barrel . This really is not new technology, as notably seen when the military went to the shorter .308 Winchester which replaced the .30-06 , the same principle applies here , where the shorter action .308 can achieve its maximum potential utilizing a shorter barrel in a more compact package , using less powder ( it doesn’t equal the .30/06 velocities, but it has proven to be a more practical solution to suit its intended purpose for mid range tactical work)

[@tiagotellestelles6784]

@@NorthwoodsNomad Thanks again for the reply friend. You are always presenting technical arguments of daily practice. I learn a little more every day with you Americans, especially with your KZbin channel. I was born in the wrong country, I love my Brazil but I would like the American way of thinking I had here, that is, I wanted freedom, freedom and arms. ARMED PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE SLAVER. Thanks for the great explanation to understand.

[@NorthwoodsNomad]

Tiago Telles Telles always a pleasure to converse over my favorite topics of guns and ammo / hunting and fishing , and I respect your input as well . Would love to visit Brazil 🇧🇷 sometime, some beautiful countryside and beautiful ladies 😁