303. The Bloodiest Crusade

[@jonathonjubb6626]

I lived twenty miles north of Beziers for several years, this brought back some memories... Thank you.

[@halcyon8280]

Amazing episode. Keep up the good work , gentleman.

[@wilkiebunkers1352]

Incredibly good. Thank you guys

[@retrolofiradio66]

Do you remember the Crusades 😉

[@famebrightstudio451]

Can't believe how few likes you guys get so far, some of the best content on KZbin. Would love a team-up of you guys and Dan Carlin...

[@jamesabergas5320]

did you find them?

[@SterlingHolcomb-db9fc]

Thank you for your work!

[@CL-we8tn]

Thank you so much great episode.

[@allgreatnike1009]

I am addicted to your channel now LOL. Can't wait till u cover south africa (my country). But this is some great work. Thank you very much.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

I love this stuff. Its obvious you do to. Thanks very much.

[@kevinmcinerney1959]

I feel a well-controlled discussion between ("Dominion") Tom Holland, and ("Professional Atheist") Alex O'Connor is inevitable one of these days. Has anybody considered setting that up?

[@mps9649]

As said multitude of times before I'm sure...Innocent is the most ironic name given the man's actions.

[@michaelbedford8017]

Whenever a religion shifts from being persecuted to hegemony, it doesn't take long to prove itself no better than its persecutors. This alone is a strong indicator that religions are man-made rather than divinely inspired.

[@daydays12]

Indeed. How true. Man - made and misery creating. Thank you so much for your post.

[@fondofthebonds4914]

I’m just surprised they didn’t make any nazi germany comparisons to brexit this episode.

[@AB-yx4tr]

Very informativ Episode, exept the TITLE? Somehow ist the Middleeastern Bloodshed not so much worth,as that of the Cathars! Jerusalem slaughter,by the Franks ,is Downplayd by the Titel

[@Wee_Langside]

Wasn't Louis VIII made king of England?

[@Hugh_Morris]

Not exactly. While he was the prince, he invaded England and rebel barons against John declared him king. When John died William Marshal took control of English forced, defeated Louis, and forced him to sign a treaty where he renounced his claim on England and paid a fine.

[@mackenshaw8169]

The DNA of Woke.

[@lukedaniels7750]

What does woke mean to you ?

[@eddiel7635]

@@lukedaniels7750 he doesn’t know, he’s probably just a russian troll whose spamming that comment on every video he comes across on youtube.

[@kevinmcinerney1959]

What do you mean?

[@mackenshaw8169]

@@kevinmcinerney1959 That gnosticism is the DNA basis for the cult of woke even if it has forgotte its religious origins.

[@kevinmcinerney1959]

@@mackenshaw8169 If you'd said that there were echoes of gnostic flesh/spirit dualism in 1960s mysticism, or in New Ageism, I could agree with you. But I don't see a connection between gnosticism and identity politics or social justice concern.

[@ktom5262]

It's kind of irksome when they are describing something horrible and cruel that happened while laughing, like two stupid teenagers. 👎 The cynicism of a historian...

[@kevinmcinerney1959]

Too soon?

[@DeanHenderson]

No finer use of a biting witticisms by some 40 something men

[@aleccrull4114]

Trash

[@walterdimmick653]

Tom's argument "doing it (inquisitors torturing to save souls) for love" is really so stupid as to be contemptable. The act of routinely torturing someone can only be done by a very low empathy person or sociopath. Sociopaths of course, not known for doing things for other people out of love. Even if someone with high empathy did become a torturer it would rapidly absolutely destroy or twist them psychologically. Now I really enjoy these podcasts but sometimes these guys veer of into subjects far outside their expertise and say just silly stuff.

[@kevinmcinerney1959]

I think it's fine to question Tom Holland's argument. That part troubled me as well somewhat. However I understand his point about the French Revolutionaries in the Vendée. There is a tendency for those who have persuaded themselves that they are the "Righteous" to feel that anything is justified. I think Mr Holland is always trying to find support for his larger thesis about the truly pervasive influence of Christianity in the West, influencing even its opponents.