308 vs 30-06 - GIANT CLAY BLOCKS!!!

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[@rusticredd6294]

I'm almost 32 and the second time I took hunter safety at 17 they specified that the bullet is the actual projectile while the entire device was a cartridge. Since then, I've done my best to call each component by its proper term.

[@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill]

thingamabober

[@davidabernathy4553]

Well now that was a interesting video and I like both of those calibers and I own both but my observation is that the 308 had more mojo on the clay.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

.308 performed better at that range due to it being slower. The 30-06 was moving faster, therefore penetrated faster, resulting in less energy dumped into the target... both will drop a deer dead, that’s all that matters

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@niagra898 the whole point of my argument is that arguing over which is better is honestly ridiculous....

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@niagra898 I greatly enjoy these vids as well, but performance is similar. 30-06 offers a little more power, a deer won’t tell the difference though...

[@nickrobinson9503]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 .308 is better looking at it from a reloader’s point of view. More efficient to own .308

[@RevHiker]

@Driveitsideways 1 the 308 is only about 100 fps slower than an 06 with 150gn bullets. 308 is a much more efficient cartridge, and the 06 only pulls away for rounds over 190gn, which most aren't shooting. Both are great rounds, and have nearly identical performance... 308 just does it with about 40% less recoil

[@percyvaljenkins]

As was said, the 30.06 seemed to push through therefore "less" appearance of damage while the .308 exploded the clay. Either one is a win win.......

[@EdAb]

You're shoot'n the same bullet, out of the same line of ammunition, from the same manufacturer!!!!!!!!!! Whooo Hooooo, I'm gonna go make me some popcorn! Thank you WHO_TEE, this is exactly what I've been waiting for! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, this is going to be good!

[@bigdave_inmo938]

Enjoy watching the slow mo part of the video I'm going with 308 💥👍

[@richardhaddock5660]

The .308 was made from 30.06 but today it looked like the .308 blew apart the clay. Loved it, good video

[@unknowntraveller8633]

I guess the real question is if they both take done Deer, which is the cheapest and which is readily available.

[@bigricksmith8345]

Both...Well, both are very popular and are about the same price (Comparing the same brands, obviously)

[@unknowntraveller8633]

@@bigricksmith8345 That is a given that they are the same brand

[@tylarhaugan7908]

308 for me good luck finding 30-06

[@charlesmccoy5857]

@@tylarhaugan7908 good luck finding 308 also, both are really scarce around here

[@tylarhaugan7908]

@@charlesmccoy5857 in stores where I live 308 is plentiful. Which is odd for me

[@PrepperDale]

Townsend Whelen said... The 30 06 is never a Mistake

[@unbalancedredneck5778]

Then he designed the 35 Whelen off the 30-06 case.

[@RalphReagan]

@@unbalancedredneck5778 which isn't à mistake

[@frankwrogg2515]

I think the 30-06 was not a good center hit like the 308 was, seemed high and right.

[@chrislang5659]

I think the 30-06 made it through the clay faster and didn't have time to make a mess of that block like the 308.

[@richarddoucet7661]

faster means messing it up more though, not less. Faster means more total energy and more energy dumping.

[@bobjohnson4677]

Next time on clay blocks, put a quarter under it. The shot should Imprint the image on the clay. That way you know top or bottom

[@julianmcalister6865]

Absolutely love my Ruger American .308. I shot a nice 10 point with the first round I had made in .308. Anyway, I have both .308 and 30-06 and what I like the most is that I can use the same projectiles for both. To be honest, I waste more powder to pretty much get the same results when loading a 30-06 round. I’m sure several will argue that point, but really is there that much difference to argue a difference. If your limited on powder than I’m sure you’ll do what you can to ration what is in your available supply. Keep the great videos coming WTW. You always have the best videos and shoot things I would like to shoot without throwing money down the barrel. My woman doesn’t like the attention directed away from her when watching one after another, haha. Take care to both you and your family.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@vashmatrix5769]

It's like some kind of abstract sculpting class.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@jessemorris744]

Now thats an idea

[@davidpowell6258]

Sure like to see those matching Ruger Americans and a chronograph used to check bullet fps. A lot of 30-06 boxes list speed for 24" barrels. A lot of videos talk about heavy bullet weight but I plan on just using 150 grain bullets all copper.

[@paulcritchfield6958]

Looks like 308 win this match, as my eyes seen

[@anthonyk6265]

30 odd 6 clay was a lot more fresh a lot more moist that's why It didn't blow apart

[@fredwaldon2068]

@@anthonyk6265 wrong !!if you know anything about clay the wetter it is the darker it is composition being the same

[@dallaspower1]

Shooting the blocks lengthwise might give some more insight as the bullets would have more media to dump energy into.

[@garyeaton5719]

My thoughts exactly. Might show how the energy is dissipated through the block.

[@dundonrl]

Only difference will be (according to Hornady) 90 FPS more velocity with the 30-06 (2910 FPS) over the 308 (2820 FPS). The 06 doesn't come into it's own till you get heavier bullets with slower burning powder.

[@biggabear8]

the different color in the clay , are they not the same kind of clay ? that could skew the results .

[@jasonperfect529]

That's what I thought also

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

I have shot 308 SST's for the past ten years. The internal shock wave is ruthless.

[@denisdegamon8224]

If the bullet weights are the same with the same .308" diameter, with 150 grain bullets the ballistics will be very similar due to the effecient case of the 308, thus giving it a lower weight powder charge vs the 30-06. The slight edge to the 30-06 with 165 grain load. But the 30-06 will give higher velocities with bullets of 165 grain and higher weights. The overall maximum case lengths of that 308 forces heavier bullets to be seated deeper into the smaller cases volume, limiting it's powder charges with heavier bullets. In those cases the 30-06 is superior in both velocity and versatility.

[@jakemorris6953]

Have taken a dozen or so deer with my 30.06 running the hornady whitetail 150 gr. My rifle seems to like it. Really good shooting. Love the long range clay shooting especially with the slow motion angles.

[@tanksoldier9770]

Clay brick for a 6.5X55 Swedish

[@nicholasbarnes4456]

5.45 vs 5.56 vs 300 black vs 7.62x39 and awsome videos broths keep up the great work!

[@fiveowaf454]

Regardless of the caliber argument those clay blocks really are the best illustration I've seen of what a high power rifle is going to do to the internals of anything shot with it.

[@kennethlucas9704]

When shooting 150gr the velocities of these two cartridges is nearly the same. When shooting 180gr the 30-06 has about a 300fps advantage over the 308. There’s probably more differences between the two blocks of clay than the two projectiles used in this video in terms of velocity etc. I’d have to give the 308 the win in this video, but we all know the 30-06 is no slouch.

[@TheSpaniel1]

If that was an animal you could just imagine the hydrostatic shock, good clean kill👍

[@VEGABRICCS]

Your humor is part of the reason we love to watch you! your a funny dude Who_tee_who😎

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@masterof1]

You got to love a good 30 cal. My brother shoots 308 and I shoot 30-06. We hunt elk and have never felt under gunned. That being said I think a 35 rem vs a 35 Whelen would be awsome.

[@denisdegamon8224]

Practixally speaking as an avid reloader for over 45 years, the 30-06 for a given bullet weight delivers about 100 - 200 fps higher muzzle velocity over the 308. The 30-06 also accommodates heavier 200-220 grain bullets better due to it's increased case capacity this is less apparent when comparing 150 - 165 grain bullets. The 308 being a short action cartridge is slightly more efficient in faster burning powders and light for caliber orijectiles. No doubt the availability of cartridges on the shelf slightly favors the 308 but as for me as a hunter the 30-06 is more versitile, powerful round especially with bullets in excess of 165 grains for larger dangerous game.

[@Hunter-vl6ft]

Exactly correct.

[@diezelvh4133]

The .308 uniform energy dump is very well designed. Very satisfying.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Absolutely. Thanks for watching mr robot

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Happy New year WHO_TEE_WHO and everyone!. 🎉🎊🍾🥂🍻 I hope and pray that 2021 is much kinder to us all and that we will all get back to "Our normal" whatever the word meant to each individual person 🤞🙏🙏.. We all deserve to breathe some fresh air once again and not just inhale our morning breath constantly!. 😉😂

[@billygoat1708]

I reload both. Bullet weight and velocity for both are the same. Therefore, performance will be the same. The 30-06 has a longer casing but powder doesn't fill the entire casing,

[@billythekid2281]

Velocity is not the same? Not on the commercial ammo I buy

[@prepperoverwatch7965]

I bought a new Ruger American in .308 this year, I shot a doe at about 50 yards with a Federal Premium 165gr boat tail soft point bullet. She flipped over on her back and that was it, top of the heart gone. .308 was developed to mimic .30-06 ballistics out of a short action rifle, differences are negligible. You got a great deal on those setups!!! Who Tee Who....

[@JayKayKay7]

According to the Hornady web site, the .308 is moving at 2820 fps muzzle, 24' barrel, vs 2910 for the .30-06, a difference of 90 fps or 3%. Your experiment demonstrates the reason why the .308/7.62x51 was developed. Same basic ballistics as the .30-06 in a short action cartridge. There is no difference of any significance between those impressive blocks of clay. I am a retired gas passer and I have taken care of thousands of GSW's most of them handguns, a few shotguns, and very few high velocity rifle rounds. They just don't make it to the OR, they go from ER to morgue.

[@thomastoups3451]

The .308 (or 7.62x51 NATO) was designed to give almost identical performance to the 30-06 in military loadings. This was possible because by the 1950s - when the .308 was developed - propellants had improved significantly. The 30-06 is capable of (potentially) much greater performance than the .308, because of greater case capacity, in custom or hand loads. When using factory ammo, you won't usually notice much of a difference between the two.

[@Hunter-vl6ft]

Kinda like what was done to 10mm and 40s&w.

[@mikewells9988]

If you were in the civil war and the guy across the battlefield had “cartridges” instead of bullets it was a big deal. Not so much since everyone stopped using Spencer carbines

[@OfficialTerriClark2]

I like to see you shoot a 16 gauge shotgun. Slugs and 00 buck shots

[@westonpierson2532]

Just about everyone I know calls it a "round", because who wants to waste breath saying "cartridge"? Literally everyone knows what you mean by "bullet", save for the people who just like to be pretentious and critical. I don't think it matters a bit to the majority of us, we just enjoy the video for the high quality entertainment and info it provides! Keep on doing what you do WhoTee, we love ya!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

There you go! Appreciate you watching Weston

[@markvines7308]

I would like to have seen them fired through a chronograph. My guess is that the .308 was traveling slower and dumped more energy.

[@richarddoucet7661]

The speed IS the energy. The faster the bullet goes through the clay the more energy it imparts to the clay. Not the other way around. Specially since it's the same caliber bullet, faster means more energy transfer.

[@Frostbight118]

@@richarddoucet7661 just bc it’s going faster doesn’t mean all the energy transferred, if the 308 dumped more energy into the block, while the 30-06 passed through and held onto more energy afterward. Idk I think that’s what the original comment was getting at. I’m no expert

[@JayKayKay7]

According to Hornady, the .308 is 2820 fps and the .30-06 is 2910, 90 fps (3%). The .308 clay got 130% blown up and the .30-06 clay was blown up 135%.

[@markvines7308]

@@Frostbight118 That is exactly what I was saying. Thank you!

[@richarddoucet7661]

@@Frostbight118 correct....but faster IS more energy. A 308 bullet going 2900 feet per second will transfer more energy to the clay than a 308 (both cartridges shoot 308 cal bullets) going 2800 feet per second. The amount of clay in contact with the bullet as it passes through is the same in both cases. What you call energy is the speed at which the clay is pushed away by the bullet. That's kinetic energy. So if the bullet is hitting the clay harder than it gives the clay more energy. There is no going around that. Mark is incorrect to assume a bullet transfers more energy because it "spends more time" in the clay. That's simply not how it works. Sorry Mark =/

[@byront243]

You got me at $225 for the whole set up. Lol Really kool vid! I think I would go with the .308 Thanx much, WTW!

[@nathanpyle3443]

It's like the bad guy from Terminator 2. Awesome!

[@heretohear8662]

Both were quite devastating! I love the clay vids!!

[@buddwizr]

The 308 devastated the clay block. The 30-06 did the same and I don't want to be on the business end of either one. Great demonstration. Thanks for sharing.

[@davidbradford1595]

The 30-06 only has about 100 fps and 100 lbs s of Energy over the 308 thru all bullets weights .

[@donaldbougie694]

I test the 2 caliber on my chrono with a same ammo,the difference to30-06 is 10 to 15 fps more to a 308,the 308 is more accurate to 30-06,i test some rifle.

[@richardfinney8617]

The mighty 308 out performed the grand 06 in that one Wtw, sorry but the film doesn't lie. Great video enjoyed it and nice you matched bullet weight and manufacturer in ammo.

[@beartracker5762]

Good vid.. i love both calibers.. id love to also see 30-06 vs 300 win please..?

[@iraschoppa8976]

Do a series with same cartridge but different bullet types (HP, FMJ, SP etc.) and weights. Set up the chrono also.

[@MIKE-se8ye]

All I could think of while watching the impacts in slow mo was the Terminator 2 grenade scene. (Austrian accent) "Heavy metal poly alloy"

[@garyknepper4546]

If memory serves me right from reloading both shells and using the same powder charge and same bullet weight the 30-06 is only 190 ft per second faster than the .308. I seriously doubt that an Elk or a deer can tell the difference. My son took a bull Elk in Colorado with his .308 and I took a bull Elk in Colorado with my 30-06 and both calibers did the job. Both were taken this past October. 2020. Both also died on the spot with no tracking job. Both were double lung hits. Also we were both using Barnes all copper bullets. Both Elk believe it or not were shot at 225 yards.Good video.

[@garyalensr]

I love the vids Who Tee!!! In my own opinion they both are deadly as all get up. Both will take big game and feed the family as long as the shooter can hit the sweet spot!!! I've been with your channel way back when you had 100 subs, I have to say every video gets better. Thank you for making great content for us. Oh Happy Holidays and have a awesome 2022 as well.

[@ethika1x977]

i just got a remington 783 for my 15th birthday. I’ve only shot a few rounds through it but i’m loving it!

[@ethika1x977]

chambered in .308

[@55aryan1]

308 did more damage to clay than 30-06 Even though it had shorter case. And it kicks less too So 308 is the winner!

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Looks like the .308 may have had a better day today. Glad to have both of them. Great job bringing in the same rifle, scope and ammo manufacturer for this video. Happy New Year everyone......................

[@MrRbillharz]

It's not the rounds, it's the clay. Most likely the moisture content.

[@mrdinme.4768]

Ohhh, thats a fair point, very good

[@Dad_Stuff2004]

If they ever start selling tags for clay, I think either one will do just fine. But until then, the '06 offers more versatility for larger-than-deer game. I'm sticking with my '06. Great video!

[@toddkurtz7635]

These 2 cartridges are ballistic twins. The very minor velocity advantage the 30.06 has amounts to exactly nothing. I shot a medium sized mulie at about 100 yards with the .308 and a little bigger mulie at about 175 yards with the 30.06. The result was the same. Both deer expired instantaneously!

[@markburleson3283]

Really cool video. You should work with the slo mo guys and figure out what is going on inside the clay at these two calibers.

[@doralmccart8636]

I would like to see you do clay blocks with the 5.7 and 22mag as equal as you can get it

[@indianajets]

I would like to see the difference between pistol and carbine in the same cal.. .22-.357-44

[@BonedGolfandFish]

Got my first hunting rifle yesterday. Bergera b14 in .308 with a vortex diamondback tactical 4×16×44. Can't wait to test some ammo and see if I can make some jagged holes and hopefully get some venison in the freezer. Love your vids. I'd love to see a 308 ammo test with a few different bullet types and weights.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome! Very nice pick

[@mariomcallen]

Dude.. keep up the good work... always a fan.

[@tacticalpacificislanders6242]

AWESOME VIDEO, TRY PUTTING A STEAL PLATE OR JUGS BEHIND CLAY TO REALLY SEE WHAT THE BULLET DOES AFTER CLAY..👍

[@ddteamrc6461]

It's not a cartridge or a bullet, , , Their BULLL- LOTS !

[@josephjones611]

Should have weighed the blocks before and after.

[@jeffreyleonard7210]

I come here for the concrete block busting earlier in the week. Now today I learned there you got a playlist for the clay from which we were made. Question, tho. How many fresh clay blocks does it take to stop a this, a that, or the other? P.S. that Ruger American pair and the blocks? Reminded me of fine matched pair of Rickenbackers used by the Georgia band REM, just a short something like 40 years ago when they started out, on the boob tube via the Letterman show.

[@tomrowley1717]

Please try 6.5 Creedmoor vs 7mm-08, that should be another fun video.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Coming soon...

[@tomrowley1717]

@@WHOTEEWHO Sweeet

[@bobbreit5244]

Something ZEN like with those clay blocks in slow mo. 👍

[@stanleyromanowski9816]

Got two for you: first, how about 30-06 vs 7.62 x 54R, since both were WW II military cartridges. This might be a tough one due to ammo availability. .300 Savage vs .308 Winchester, both are available with 150gr. PSP. The .308 was derived from the .300 Savage. When I was a kid in western Pennsylvania, anyone who hunted whitetail deer in my area either had a .30-30, a .32 Special, a .300 Savage, or a .30-06.

[@michaelparker7118]

I would like to see 243 vs 30 30

[@vensheaalara]

Lol. Now you said cartridge, welcome to your 70s.

[@zacmccrae]

I'd like to see 6.8 spc vs 7.62x39, or 6.8 spc vs 5.56.. like watching these videos so much!

[@zacmccrae]

Just thought of this, 6.8 spc vs 224 valkyrie

[@hphillips7425]

Good video. It makes you wonder how game can absorb that kind of energy and run a 100 yards

[@Leverguns50]

The 308 was the original short magnum, and it originally reproduced is the velocity and bullet weight of the 30-06

[@user-SgtArmoroldtanker]

I think there is only 100 fps difference in the two rounds with the 308 being the slowest, but it seemed to me like the 308 blew up the clay better. It looked almost like the 308 was going faster. That is a interesting video!

[@elozesty6376]

30-06 needs a longer barrel length to reach the higher velocity

[@dirkwheeler966]

They are both excellent rounds.

[@herrkulor3771]

I would like to see ceramic and glassware plates shot. With some paper between the plates. Expensive and messy but interesting. 2nd idea: sandbags. How big should they be for which cartridge?

[@markc6207]

That was fun to watch. Two good calibers. Those metal things inside the small tube things with the powder really messed the clay up. Hell cartridges is easier to say.

[@user-bi5if1ip6t]

Claying done right. I’ll check out the clay list. I liked the 308 shot best. I can’t figure why the 6Aught shot reacted twisted. I’ll think it through. Thanks Heavy Metal.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Chey!

[@BillyJack7691]

I like both of these calibers , however I would like to see the ole 7mm vs the 7mm-08

[@YurMom68]

.308 vs 7.62x54R maybe? Always enjoyable. Keep up the good work.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@ethan5.56]

Shoot some through the full length of the blocks

[@jamespugh]

Two awsome calibers. The .308 has overall length of 2.800 with 150gr load. 30-06 has overall lengths of 3.250 to 3.300 depending on bullet. So 30-06 = more powder

[@ronnykerr4848]

I would like to see the difference between the two with the blood filled head and torso like they use in forged in fire

[@ericyoung9445]

They both where great but I think this time the 308 did better !! I think you should do a 22TCM vs 57 and maybe a 22 hornet all from pistols !! It don’t matter what you call them Bullets, cartridges or rounds they all work !!

[@bearkify]

.54 cal patched round ball muzzle loader with 80grains of black powder vs the clay block!

[@MikeOnTheHomestead]

Cartridge....lol...you are right about only older people calling it that...i call it a round :P

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@mikepreciado7807]

Ok paul. Its 44 mag time? 180 xtps with 30 grn h110. Vs. 454?

[@slickdazzler7330]

Result may have been different with a better hit on the clay with the 30-06. As it looked, the 308 hit dead center and dumped it's energy evenly. 30-06 hit upper left, and energy was not dispersed evenly by what I saw that the cameras got. Same bullet, same casing, just one is longer casing. More powder can be shoved into the longer case. Far as deer hunting goes, results will be similar with both. Remember, 30-06 is 308s daddy.

[@appalachianoutdoorsman5769]

I never understood the whole caliber debate lol. Where I'm from our hunting group all of which use different rounds use a variety of 270, 308, 3006, 6.5 creedmoor. No one ever tells the other person their round is superior. We just drink beer eat steaks and harvest our kills.

[@pong86r]

Have you done anything with those soft shells? The blue bullets that are supposed to be used for self defense

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Not yet

[@txrick4879]

Both cartridges are battle proven and hunter approved . Good vid amigo .

[@jamesmarkov9570]

Which is more classic-A Ruger American in 30-06 or 308?

[@BenDover-ru1dc]

Calling a "cartridge" a "bullet" is like calling a "magazine" a "follower". I use proper terminology as part of my education for new shooters. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I just don't think it really matters 🤷‍♂️. Clips, magazines, clipazines....potatoes, potahtoes,

[@BenDover-ru1dc]

@@WHOTEEWHO I understand what you're saying. I'm a firearms instructor and range officer. You just can't be too clear with newbies and the uniformed public.

[@davidfriesen9512]

Heck! I'm 180 years old and I remember when cartridges were invented and way back then even we didn't say cartriges. We called them shells.

[@davidfriesen9512]

My secret for longevity is cheetos. Yup. I make sure to eat at least one bag of cheetos per week.

[@patrickrossetti7109]

Those are some powerful BULLETS👍!

[@trevorphillips4595]

Your wedding ring is almost exactly like that one in the movie "The Abyss" from 1989 directed by James Cameron, with Ed Harris, where it did save his life, literally. Great movie btw - I recommend long 3.5hr Blue-ray version.

[@jessicageerligs339]

Mines tungston and would definitely seize that door.

[@thomasdenoyelles1784]

Cartridge is the proper terminology for pistol and rifle ammunition. Shells is used to describe shotgun ammunition.

[@1jmccray]

I would love to see a 35 whelen vs 358 winchester video

[@benjaminbrown1179]

Only person I know that starts almost every sentence with But......... lol..... But great videos!

[@billsharko3007]

Test a 375 Ruger with the clay and water jugs.

[@darionbush6914]

I am a huge .308 fan best longbolt caliber in my opinion. Love the vids. WHO_TEE_WHO!!