331 VS 347 STROKER...DECISION MADE! // Machine Shop Balances My Crankshaft For My SSP RACE BUILD!

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GearHead704

GearHead704

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@robhunter2435
@robhunter2435 3 жыл бұрын
You could not have gone wrong with either motor because your machinist is top notch. Attention to details is where it is at. That will be a very nice mill. Congrats
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! I'm excited about it. Thanks Rob.
@ashleydubbeld9236
@ashleydubbeld9236 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy knows his stuff I didn’t know there was that much the balancing a crank looks like this is very time intensive intentions and ran really smooth👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know how much was involved either, but yeah Adam is the man.
@bpfishing19
@bpfishing19 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what you end up doing with the engine build. My 347 was already in my car and I feel like it’s under powered because of the small trick flow heads on it. It’s making 340hp to the wheels but I know it can make more with larger heads and better intake.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try and get the biggest intake, heads, cam combo I can that will still be streetable, and will let you guys know what it makes. I'm hoping for 380, but we'll see.
@mji387
@mji387 3 жыл бұрын
It's been awesome to watch you grow on your channel & so happy to see you having "top notch" quality build.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you sticking with me for all this time. I think once this build is done it's going to be very nice and very well documented.
@PaulsProTips
@PaulsProTips 3 жыл бұрын
Horespower is so easy to buy these days, my faith in stock blocks is at an all time low. I would have a hard time building one. Now the 351 blocks are a bit stronger, and go 408 easily. Either an aftermarket 8.2 block or a 351 for me. I wish you well on this project and hope you meet or exceed your goals.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! Yeah the 351 will definitely hold a lot more power. Since I"m going NA only we should be good to go with this 347. I'll build a 408 one day.
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
the benefit to a stroker low deck Windsor is exhaust clearance. gotta get the hot air out, and if you want to use a long runner or Tri Y header, the shorter deck height might help you clear a steering column etc.
@Foxedup
@Foxedup 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that was very interesting and informative! Can’t wait to see the assembly.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed and that's coming soon! Thanks buddy.
@boosted9319
@boosted9319 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss 347 more c.I.! Great video brother!!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
You know it Boosted! Thanks man, I appreciate ya.
@seastacker8582
@seastacker8582 3 жыл бұрын
Love the call on the 347. The machine shop footage is great. Love the info Adam shares.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I found that stuff very informative. More to come! Appreciate you watching.
@PaulDaFox
@PaulDaFox 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative...congrats on going 347! ✊🏼🏁
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Paul! Now I gotta get busy getting a car ready for it LOL
@PaulDaFox
@PaulDaFox 3 жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 💯🏁
@thefoxchamber
@thefoxchamber 3 жыл бұрын
Very knowledgeable on engine building. He seems he's very focused on accuracy. Your engine should be top notch.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Fore sure, I feel very comfortable on it being a solid build.
@VidTubeWatch
@VidTubeWatch 3 жыл бұрын
I was leaning towards the 347. This guy really knows his stuff. So much that I was getting dizzy with all of the knowledge. LOL Then Foxresto Matt showed up and Della. Ibuprofen please. LOL. Great video though buddy.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Hah hah, yeah so my knowledge with those guys! I had to film it and watch to get everything LOL
@calvinrevis2860
@calvinrevis2860 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to do business with Kannapolis engine service
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 Жыл бұрын
I'm very happy with them.
@lancelangdon7569
@lancelangdon7569 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a follow-up video with a dyno run, first start-up, test drive, or anything letting us know how this project turned out?
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
There will be, but right now it's not even in the car LOL. Slow going sadly 😩
@GoFastNation
@GoFastNation 3 жыл бұрын
Great choice on the 347! Looking forward to seeing it run!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Charlie, me too👍
@RCREVEALED
@RCREVEALED 3 жыл бұрын
Nice choice. Looking forward to the build.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've never heard of a 347, so I'm excited about it.
@BackyardBMX73
@BackyardBMX73 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see this process
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeremy, this was all new to me.
@mikehinson5935
@mikehinson5935 2 жыл бұрын
Cool vid!!! I’m in Albemarle and found prestige motor sport in Kannapolis. They did a lot on my 289. I haven’t heard of these guys but I want to learn about them too!! They seem very nice. Take Care
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
Love the 289! Enjoy it.
@jpp9846
@jpp9846 3 жыл бұрын
Nice inside look of an engine build. I'm curious in the price difference if a 347 build and Vortech boosting the 302
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Probably similar as the heads, cam, and intake can add some expense.
@19jody72
@19jody72 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... very interesting you chose the 347 over the 331. So is it a daily or track car? Subbed!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Track car! Thanks for the sub.
@19jody72
@19jody72 3 жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 Right now, I'm running a hot 302 in my 2000 ford ranger, dailydriver/travle truck with ac. Building a blown 331 next year for it
@NoFox_Given
@NoFox_Given 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I don’t know how I missed it earlier.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
No worries and thanks as always buddy
@oldfoxer1648
@oldfoxer1648 3 жыл бұрын
Too me this stuff is very exciting. Very glad you did. Actually I would love to see brief clips of the cleaning and ring filing to see it done by an expert. Sorry, but I love that stuff.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I'll see if Adam will let us see one at least, but I think he made it sound similar to watching paint dry LOL
@BrotherTom
@BrotherTom 3 жыл бұрын
347 is going to be fun! Great video, Matt!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom, I think so too
@AdamAnderson-t7e
@AdamAnderson-t7e Ай бұрын
I went with the 331 but my compression is 12.9.1. I have a 302 crateno miles. But it's extra engine I'm thinking of a 347 less compression but read for at least. The 331 is built from my original 289
@mikedambowic5862
@mikedambowic5862 3 жыл бұрын
Matt what did he say , cant keep up ? Sooo cool on the rebuild good luck , i want to👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 see u driving the SSP soon
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I hope I"ll be driving it soon Mike, but yeah I'm excited. Was there a part where you couldn't hear him?
@mustang91
@mustang91 3 жыл бұрын
Great video your engine should make great power I'm considering a 347 for one of my foxbodys it's a ltd2 foxbody sleeper project
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and I think a 347 would be awesome for that.
@Jack-b5o6r
@Jack-b5o6r 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks DV! Appreciate you watching me in your new theatre space.
@jaco5187
@jaco5187 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 68 Mustang, 289 with T-5 tranny. I want to rebuild, but I'm torn between a 331 or 347. I'll probably just end up buying a 351W crate engine...
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with a 351.
@robertc1220
@robertc1220 3 жыл бұрын
Engine building is interesting wondered how balancing was done does make a difference .
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert! It's been great to get to see all this stuff happen. I know this engine is going to be solid.
@chrisplace3024
@chrisplace3024 3 жыл бұрын
Adam is the Man
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@BLACKKNIGHTMUSTANG
@BLACKKNIGHTMUSTANG 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info Bro keep Grinding 💪 Stang Life 🐎
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Always! thanks Ant.
@sorshiaemms5959
@sorshiaemms5959 3 жыл бұрын
glad to see you went with the 347 stroke is torque which is faster ets if you can hook
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited about it.
@StupidFastTruck
@StupidFastTruck 3 жыл бұрын
Oh damn...I wanted to see Adam grind some rings....NOT...Seriously though, very interesting to see how much time can go into building an engine correctly.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 Yeah he said that was a no go LOL. But yeah a lot goes into it for sure. He's well worth the money to me though.
@jaffroking6798
@jaffroking6798 2 жыл бұрын
My 347 with dart heads rev 6800 .my 331 with afr heads205s revz 7500 331 in a 2900 lb Maverick
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
Both sound like fun
@JayC-nr1mp
@JayC-nr1mp 3 жыл бұрын
Im here champ 👊🏾
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Jay C! Nice and early mane. I bet you have the all time most comments in the top 3.
@Jvcomet
@Jvcomet 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Lots of info. 👍
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@mustanlab302
@mustanlab302 3 жыл бұрын
💥! Mind Blown
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Right! So much info from Adam that I don't think I got it all until I was editing and rewatched LOL.
@ShaneHerald
@ShaneHerald 3 жыл бұрын
should of just got a 351 Cleveland and hooked that up ....they dont need much to run 500 horse...but man thats going to be of hell of a engine man ....wow....
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah those are great engines too and can hold more power long term if you want to upgrade later for sure. I didn't want to deal with the stock hood clearance issues though.
@yarrdayarrdayarrda
@yarrdayarrdayarrda 3 жыл бұрын
Sure hope your ATI dampener is close to his. Unless it was molested by the previous machinist, there was no reason to balance the crank with his "spec" dampener because you already have a quality part, and there is not much area to correct on it, leaving any correction to be done back within the crankshaft. It is possible he will need to add weight back to where he removed on the counterweight. If the imbalance difference between the 2 dampeners is significant it will affect the balance on the back of the crankshaft as well. The manual flywheel makes sense to spin up after the fact since there is 360 degrees of area he can correct on it. I love how his setup is entirely managed by a computer, especially how you enter all the rod weights at once. We're still in the stone ages, weighing all the big ends then matching to the lightest, then all the small ends etc and using good old fashioned balance cards, a pen, and a calculator. 🤣 Good video!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
I've decided if it does balance out right with my balancer to buy a different one and use the ATI on a different project. I like the crank being balanced correctly personally because then I can just switch flywheels or balancers as needed. Thanks, I"m glad you enjoyed the video.
@tomhamilton9140
@tomhamilton9140 2 жыл бұрын
My personal 358 8.200 deck Ford is Molnar 3.400 crank with there 5.400 con rod along with Mahle 1mm 1mm 2mm oil ring combo on Race Tech pitons.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a nice setup.
@FoxbodyTV
@FoxbodyTV 3 жыл бұрын
Good info great video
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin👍
@johndoe-zb8bm
@johndoe-zb8bm 3 жыл бұрын
Wow WAIT,that's a lot of damn WEIGHT!!, LMAO!🤣💯👍
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Hah hah, YES indeed!
@johndoe-zb8bm
@johndoe-zb8bm 3 жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 In all seriousness I was impressed. That looks like a top notch machine shop and the man running it obviously knows what he is doing and how to run it. You are going to have a really nice set up,im happy for you..🔥💪🇺🇲
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
@@johndoe-zb8bm thanks buddy
@sHiFtY-5-oh
@sHiFtY-5-oh 3 жыл бұрын
That was some great info. to know and interesting.Thats going to be 1 bad a$$ 349!!!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
You got it right Shifty! 349! Thanks, I"m glad you enjoyed it.
@josephleonardi8977
@josephleonardi8977 3 жыл бұрын
Well..... It looks like your gonna get a proper built engine this time.... Hang on to your hat if you thought the 331 was quick!!!😁😁👊👍😵😵
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, I hope so and I knew you'd be happy with the decision Joe.
@josephleonardi8977
@josephleonardi8977 3 жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 trust me... The 347 wont disappoint!😜😜👍👊💪
@Ny_Foxbody93
@Ny_Foxbody93 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the compression ratio on the pistons? And what will it be after all said an done?
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
11.5 or 12 to 1 is what we are thinking
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
Did the machinist match the lightest connecting rod to the heaviest piston to get a uniform weight, or did he just machine each part down to the lightest uniform weight he could get?
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 Жыл бұрын
I'll need to ask him and include that info in a future update
@albertgaspar627
@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 it would be interesting (ok, to me at least :) ) because at one time people wanted the lightest possible reciprocating assembly (knife-edged or pendulum cut counterweights on the crank, etc) so the engine could rev to its powerband quickly (a light flywheel can do the same, but flywheels store energy so too light causes issues in some street applications). not a big deal in a circle track engine spending time in the power band, and the question is how light can you be as oil gets sprayed in the crankcase (esp. with oil squirters cooling the pistons in modern engine designs) and gets slung off the crank without windage trays and crank scrapers. but for a street engine that's spending time across much of the rpm range, it could be something that makes one engine feel more responsive than another running the same cam-heads-intake.
@frank3stangs
@frank3stangs 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank!
@frank3stangs
@frank3stangs 3 жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 think you'll be happy with the 347.
@chrisplace3024
@chrisplace3024 3 жыл бұрын
Well Matt i can see $$$$$$. Very nice.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Always gotta spend that money LOL
@jamesparsons1587
@jamesparsons1587 Жыл бұрын
i’m local as well in Concord
@tylerc7336
@tylerc7336 3 жыл бұрын
Good call on the 347, there's no replacement for displacement specially when your n/a
@BrailsfordsRides
@BrailsfordsRides 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I didn't say it first lol
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! Should be a fun screamer.
@edwardautrey3671
@edwardautrey3671 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
👊
@craigmiller5405
@craigmiller5405 3 жыл бұрын
347 !!! 💯💯
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
You know it Craig! 💯 percent
@radfish4161
@radfish4161 3 жыл бұрын
Adam seems like a guy who'd help you kill a suitcase of Busch Light and call you "bud" a lot...After his Mensa meeting.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Hadn't drank with him before, but he's a cool dude for sure.
@djdev3077
@djdev3077 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no motor head,but why not a 351w,instead of stroker 347......351 is more cubes
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good question. For me it's mainly because I want to maintain my stock hood and using drop motor mounts cause all kinds of problems. Also, I already had a block for the 347, where as the 351 would've needed a different block.
@1bad505
@1bad505 3 жыл бұрын
4.125 bore X 3.250 stroke X 5.500 rod is the better 347... and yes...a proper 1.075 piston can be had without put'n the pin thru the oil ring...
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 100% percent. Adam showed me some different types of pistons for 331 and 347 off camera as well.
@streetslayers410
@streetslayers410 3 жыл бұрын
347 ftw 👍
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
😎 Agreed.
@twister8594
@twister8594 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice on the 347 👍
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I"m excited about it.
@robertrobinson4578
@robertrobinson4578 3 жыл бұрын
Could Adam build an engine that’s not technically legal for smog in California, and ship it there?
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Best to call him and see. Assuming that it's for off road use I really doubt there would be a problem with it, but I don't want to speak for him on it.
@ThaSilentOne420
@ThaSilentOne420 9 ай бұрын
347 dont last long on a OEM block unless u build it watered down . 331 all the way . Ive had a few of both 331 and 347
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 9 ай бұрын
It'll be interesting to see how long mine lasts (347) if I ever get it in the car that is.
@seansweeney7721
@seansweeney7721 3 жыл бұрын
My brain hurts
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, yah a lot of info in there for sure hah hah
@BrailsfordsRides
@BrailsfordsRides 3 жыл бұрын
No replacement for displacement!!!
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@ze_german2921
@ze_german2921 2 жыл бұрын
Why not invest in a 351?
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
For me 3 reasons. 1. Retain the stock hood. 2. Don't use drop motor mounts 3. Money (I already owned the 302 block)
@Lumpy-jd4fw
@Lumpy-jd4fw 2 жыл бұрын
Does he sell 347 s
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he does
@kenxiong6830
@kenxiong6830 3 жыл бұрын
331 for the revs. Chinese parts suck!!! It’s like playing Russian roulette with your engine
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
Going put the 331 in another project car I think.
@kenxiong6830
@kenxiong6830 3 жыл бұрын
@@GearHead704 347 comes with too much headache
@danonoveh8114
@danonoveh8114 3 жыл бұрын
We all need to find out the hard way😆
@RegularGuyGarage
@RegularGuyGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I hear they have different pistons 🤔🥴😂
@79beans347
@79beans347 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍🏽 im finally running with my different than yours pistons 😂🤣😂
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
😁 So i've been told LOL
@chrisbishop7253
@chrisbishop7253 3 жыл бұрын
First
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
👆👊 💯
@automotiveaddiction428
@automotiveaddiction428 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh....you can't handle a 347...you drive a vw..I'm joking I'm joking..
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 You might be right! LOL
@rueridge7597
@rueridge7597 3 жыл бұрын
347??? Sheepboy 🐑🐑🐑 Nothing else to see here. 347 builds dime a dozen.
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, I just read your other comment and thought well he isn't going to like the decision I made hah hah. Thanks for checking out the videos anyway man.
@danonoveh8114
@danonoveh8114 3 жыл бұрын
You spent all that extra money, you shoulda bought a better block, evidently money isnt an issue🤔
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 3 жыл бұрын
It is not.
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