Stroking A 5.0L Small Block Ford to 347 C.I. - Engine Power S2, E8

On this episode of Engine Power, the team gets started on Project Black & Blue Stage I. They make big street/strip power on a budget by stroking a stock 5.0L small block Ford to 347.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Air Flow Research: Cylinder Heads, Competition Porting, Aluminum, Assembled, 58cc Chamber, 195cc Intake, Ford, Small Block, Pair
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1723
ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1717
ARP: Harmonic Balancer Bolt, Chromoly, Black Oxide, 12-Point, Ford, V8, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1740
ARP: Oil Pump Driveshaft, Ford, 221-302, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1741
ATI Performance Products: Harmonic Balancer, Super Damper, Internal Balance, Aluminum, Steel, Ford, 289, 302, 351C, 351M, 351W, 400
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1738
ATI Performance Products: Timing Pointer, Billet Aluminum, Black Anodized, Adjustable, Ford, Small Block, Each
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Dorman Products: Timing Cover, 1-Piece, Aluminum, Natural, Ford, Each
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Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Gloss, Ford Blue, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
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Eagle Specialty Products: Engine Rotating Assembly, Competition,(ESP)Forged Crank, Forged Mahle Pistons, H-Beam Rods, Ford, Small Block, Kit
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Edelbrock: Intake Manifold, Victor Jr, Single Plane, Aluminum, Natural, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Ford, 4.7L, 5.0L, Each
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: FEL-PRO, Gaskets, Timing Cover, Cork/Rubber, Ford, Small Block, Kit
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: FEL-PRO, Gaskets, Manifold, Intake, Stock Port, Ford, 302/351W, Set
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Hooker Headers: Headers, Super Competition, Full-Length, Steel, Painted, Ford, Mercury, Pair
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1749
Lunati: Cam & Lifters, 351W, V292HR10
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Lunati: Rocker Arms, Voodoo, Full Roller, Aluminum, Black, 3/8 in. Stud Size, 1.6 Ratio, Ford, Set of 16
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1725
Lunati: Billet Timing Set 9-Key 302HO/351W
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Melling: Camshaft Thrust, Plate, Steel, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 302, 351W, Late Model Style, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1735
Melling: Oil Pump, High-Volume, Ford, 221/255/260/289/302, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1734
Moroso: Street/Strip Oil Pan, Ford 289-302, Kicked-Out Sump, Front Wet Sump, 7-quart capacity, 8" Depth, Black Powdercoated finish
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1730
Moroso: Oil Pickup, Bolt-In, Aftermarket Pan Style, Ford, 289-302, Each
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Moroso: Main Cap Girdle, Steel, Ford, 289/302, Kit
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MSD Ignition: Distributor, Pro-Billet, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Ford, 289-302, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1742
MSD Ignition: Distributor Gear, Aluminum, Bronze, Race, .466 in. Diameter Shaft, Ford, 289, 302, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1743
Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 750 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1728
Royal Purple: Assembly Lube, Max-Tuff, Synthetic, 8 oz., Each
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Spectre Performance: Extraflow Breather Black
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1746
Summit Racing: Engine Block, Cast Iron, 2-Bolt Mains, 4.030 in. Diameter Bore, 1-Piece Rear Main Seal, Ford, Small Block, 302
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1720
Summit Racing: Water Neck, Gasket, Steel, Chrome, 90 degree, Ford, Small Block Windsor, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1745
Summit Racing: Valve Covers, Tall, Die-cast, Aluminum, Black, 347 C.I. Stroker, Ford, Small Block, Pair
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1722
Dake: Arbor Presses - Ratchet Leverage, 3T
Spectre Performance: Extraflow HPR Air Cleaner 14 In. x 5 In. - Black
The Industrial Depot: Industrial Depot - Fasteners, Hardware, And Shop Supplies
Unleashed Custom Machining: 1 Inch Lightweight Tapered Blend 4150 Carburetor Spacer

[@PowerNationTV]

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[@josephklimchock5412]

What was the final build cost?....Is it less than a Ford Motorsports new performance engine?

[@sammyvices2547]

Please build a stroked out 351W to 410 on fuel injection with twisted wedge heads

[@gregmyatt9932]

PowerNation would love to see a similar build done on a 302 with cleveland heads. The high revving little 302 is sweet music to my ears.

[@springwoodslasher79]

That's 225 hp and 300 torque. Get it right.

[@jnljnl8485]

You should turn this into a clevor next . just to compair the power defrence between the heads.

[@quadrider3013]

Wow, That young amish man sure knows a lot about engines.

[@alanfusselman1873]

You should see him rise a barn.

[@kimmorrison9169]

can’t grow the matching mustache!🥸

[@ed_1969]

😅

[@dirtydoggey]

😂😂

[@kalijasin]

Amish Mike

[@BustedWalletGarage]

“ we’re calling this build ‘Little Black & Blue’ because it’s going to be guilty of domestic violence against your wallet “

[@robsorgdrager8477]

Show me a big power n/a Ford small windsor build that don't. You think this build is expensive, try the same thing on a 318 mope ...I mean there is not a reason as the 318 and 360 are very close in hight. A 302 is a very short deck engine that's the reason for the stroker kit. So it cost a lot to play the displacement game. It's not like going forced induction is that much cheaper plus to build a small windsor to live a long life of being beat you need to make sure the machining and assembly are good even on a simple bolt on turbo kit. If you want to skirt some of the fancy things you can. I'd start with a 99-2000 explorer 5.0 and keep the edis ( electronic distributorless ignition ) run a crank trigger, use good heads , good nitrous cam and a msd box. Pill it till ya kill it and go get another junk yard block.

[@BustedWalletGarage]

Rob Sorgdrager look at some of my old videos and you’ll see me rebuilding a Ford 5.0 using an old car tire as an engine stand.

[@JoeyGarcia]

Quit crying!! Try building a Mopar! I'll cost you twice as much, and with less than half of the parts availability!

[@simplyfred8044]

Love my 347. But still pounding the dent out of my wallet. Lol. Great engine.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@BustedWalletGarage dude, I've been a mechanic and carguy since 97...I'm also not rich😕. I've used come alongs and a tree to pull engines, I like using tires to rest engines and trans'es on. I did a engine swap out the bottom of a Ford focus with Jack stands, a floor jack on class 5 ...that one required many many beers. I feel ya holms a good mechanic is like a marine...get the job done using what's at hand. 😊

[@christianibarra9438]

Such a small engine, but has a heart of a lion! Love Ford!

[@jeffweaver7011]

I love these little Fords. They are low deck, lightweight, and fit in a small engine bay. You can low budget one and get 300 - 350 horsepower with the stock heads. Use main cap studs or a girdle for high rpm. This is a cool build. Excellent job guys .

[@1320crusier]

Just dont push them much past 500hp though I suppose that girdle helps

[@spankthemonkey3437]

Jeff Weaver there are people using stock everything inside and outside these engines in stock eliminator class getting over 400 HP with a stock lift super long duration custom csm

[@spankthemonkey3437]

1320crusier I would weld the girdle on after torqing it down to keep any slipping from happening

[@1320crusier]

​@@spankthemonkey3437 if youre twisting the girdled mains you have other issues.

[@spankthemonkey3437]

1320crusier too much power

[@davidlopez7209]

Built using off the shelf parts, $10k later. At least they had the decency not to call it a budget build. Nice motor though.

[@johnl9977]

I had a 69' Mach 1 with a built 351 Windsor and that motor was pretty stout. Why not just throw the top end on a 351 without the expense of a stroker?

[@michaelgiglio1571]

Ignition timings sounded perfect. See how nice a V8 can run with the distributor at the front, 💥

[@ziggybammurphy191]

I wish i went to automotive school....i just watch and enjoy tinkering with engines for a hobby.....ive made good money for the last 13 years as an electrical lineman, but my heart has always been with engines and cars....

[@marklowe7431]

Wow, the first 5.0 build in a while that invested in a girdle on a late 50 block. Smart move. Killer engine.

[@LA_Commander]

WOW, that might not be the most powerful motor I've ever seen, but it definitely is the BEST SOUNDING motor I've ever heard!

[@CrzyMav]

I love these small block Fords. That’s all I built back in the late 80’s-90’s. These little engines are Bullit proof that’s why Carol Shelby loved them on his cars.

[@2ndsspz]

this build was pre covid, thanks Joe

[@ImTheJoker4u]

I LOVE attention to detail. If you find a shop like that, give them ALL the business. "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten".

[@rrarms3159]

Excellent job and approach guys, thank you very much for your show! :-) Part list for your builds are incredible addition to all of us who dream about assembling own engine :-) BIG Thumbs up! :-)

[@michaelbenoit248]

Me: "Wow 500HP 447FTLBS of torque naturally asperated." Inner Me. "Now turbo it."

[@1320crusier]

annnnddd... now you have 2 4 cylinder blocks..lol

[@_M_-mg3ix]

Michael Benoit for real tonaaah

[@spankthemonkey3437]

1320crusier yea he will turn it into two engines.

[@thedon3836]

Nope not with a stock block 347 kit. A 331 sure, better rod angle better rotational harmonics etc but you don't wanna run even 650hp threw a stock HO block they have a tendancy of splitting in half at the lifter valley. With the poor harmonics and radical rod angle of a 347 in a stock block I dout you could run 5lbs boost or even 560hp at the crank before she split in half.

[@mattgarkus2489]

Turbo a v8? Disgusting Put a blower and get better performance

[@AJ1990.]

Having these guys do a ground up build for you would be a dream come true man. These guys have done hundreds of builds, and I have yet to see them half ass a build. The enthusiasm and passion for their work is what it's all about man. Its inspired me to pick up a wrench and start teaching myself.

[@SamuelHollandsh]

Wow, what a nice video with attention to detail and the small block is really nice. Thanks

[@MegaScott]

Forgot to mention the crank rear seal installation and they didn't check the clearance between the oil pickup and the bottom of the oil pan, a major fubar since this is very important to be sure the oil pan does not suck up to the pickup. The composite distributor gear would have been a better choice to use versus the Bronze gear. The bronze gear will need replaced after a while of use, where the composite gear will not wear like the bronze gear will. Lots of excitement getting 500hp, when for about the same cost you could have built a 408 stroker and easily exceeded 500hp.

[@videomaniac108]

That is one sweet, smooth running engine. I could listen to it purr all day long.

[@robertwest3093]

This engine dropped into a small bumper 1970-1972 Maverick would literally be SCARY!! I REALLY want to own another Ford Maverick of any year before I put my tools down for the final time. Short wheelbase and 2800-2900 pounds from the factory with MANY areas to drop several hundred more pounds of weight. It's basically THE perfect drag car!

[@pranays]

I'm 45 and I finally learned you can girdle 2 bot mains. Thanks.

[@maynardreed4036]

I'm not really a ford guy, but that is pretty impressive.

[@philthyco1]

Great motor..I hand one similar in my 67' Cougar ..With the Scat stroker kit and a Blue Chip Racing wolverine cam

[@carloscolon1009]

Thank You for sharing your wisdom. I love your show and your enthusiasm.

[@jamiemuncy2219]

Now this is why I’m Ford to the core💯 Check this out, 507hp on a 8.2 deck pump gas engine!! That’s something for your arsenal 💯💯👍🏻👍🏻💯💯

[@XxMusclecarsxX]

sbf are the shit

[@caterpillar6nz310]

are you nut ?

[@yeetskeetledeet8184]

caterpillar6nz no, i DO nut

[@sschevmale24]

Ford sux . Unless you build it yourself. All the new dohc is shit

[@BuzzLOLOL]

This is aftermarket, not "Ford"...

[@Rudderify]

Nice numbers! Looking forward to stage 2.

[@57ozcar]

My first V8 was a 221 Windsor. Love what you have done to the 302.

[@thomascoker3600]

that lined up lettering on the freeze plugs will give it a hundred horsepower

[@gregrogers3030]

Sweet build you guys!!!!

[@AmericanThunder]

Sticking with a 332" (3.25" x 4.030") ends up making more power and being generally more durable than the larger 347" stroker due to the better rod to stroke ratio. I run custom length 5.5" rods in my 332", so the rod to stroke ratio is 1.69:1, which is what a stock 302 has. Longer piston dwell times and less piston side load on the cylinder walls means more efficiency and longevity. Also, when building a stroker, (or any high hp 302) the pre-1983(you can tell from the 2-piece rear seal vs 1-piece rear seal) 302 blocks weigh 120 lbs, whereas their newer counterparts only weigh 80 lbs. That extra 40 lbs of cast material was removed mostly from the main bearing support area of the block in the new castings, and Ford did that to help lighten the nose on the Mustang fox bodies for better handling. The end result is, a heavier older 302 block can "reliably" handle upwards of 800-850hp, while the newer 5.0 blocks can only deal with 450-500 before they fail.(that's assuming you run a billet steel main stud girdle) p.s. The Race Demon carb series were tested on a dyno vs various performance fuel injection systems, and the Race Demons actually made more HP and much to the surprise of everyone, also outperformed fuel injection on low end torque too. Barry Grant knows how to build a carb. This is why I always suggest the Barry Grant RD carbs over any other Holley style carb.

[@xmo552]

Thanks for the info. Would you mind sharing more please?

[@sategllib2191]

I never could believe the 5.0 blocks could handle so little

[@paulnewman2778]

So glad PN is back. Saturdays have not been the same once they started messing with the talent and program style.

[@joshuamoore24_7]

Nice job that Ford Frankenstein 347 stroker engine build!!!!

[@kimcokevin]

Loving the blue oval content!

[@pimpovic2]

16:00 that sound on deceleration. Nice.

[@bluespig1]

We had these in Australia for years, originally casting our own and then returning to USA stock in the 1990's. In 2002, the Falcon XR8 5.0i was producing 297hp & 435nm with factory exhaust. A good set of pipes & exhaust easily added 30hp. Good fun with the Tremec 5 speed and LSD.

[@RodBeauvex]

>LSD Ummm.....

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

This was the first engine these guys have built. True story. They did pretty good for a first attempt...

[@chasevans7171]

Great to see as I'm in the middle of doing a 347 build. The "order up some pushrods they'll be with you next day" thing unfortunately not so easy if you live in the UK. More like three weeks. And then there's duty to pay on top of shipping before you can actually take delivery. (Expensive). We do have some really good helpful American speed parts stockists here in the UK but they can't stock everything a huge US company like summit can unfortunately.

[@gregmyatt9932]

Chas Evans yeah i know how you feel. Im in Oz and its the same hassles but you wait 2 months for stuff to get here, then its wrong and have to send it back. Plus its triple the price compared to US.

[@andrewinsinga2993]

Wow you guy's didn't degree the camshaft!!

[@johnbehneman1546]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! TOTALLY AWESOME BUILD FOR A DAILY DRIVER!!!! A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR THIS MOTOR!!! SUPERCHARGER SUGGESTION!!!!!

[@christopherhull2416]

Man, I remember Pat when I went to S.A.M. Great job

[@car-man]

I run the car maintenance KZbin channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.

[@CameronLegend]

자동차의 모든 것[ Car & Man ] I’ll be in Korea in a few months, let’s collaborate 💪🏾

[@roberthusk3402]

Thats creepy, do u wanna blow them

[@ohioplayer-bl9em]

@@roberthusk3402 sounds like a love letter 💌

[@393strokedcoupe]

Awesome results. I'd love to see you guys do a street/strip, more street, 393 Windsor with a stock block. My block is the slightly shorter deck height 9.480" version out of a 69 Torino. From what I understand the main girdle webbings are thicker too. I'm trying for 10.5 to 11 to 1 compression.

[@buckykattguitar]

393stroker I did exactly that for my 68 Fairlane! She's a beast.

[@393strokedcoupe]

@@buckykattguitar What heads and induction did you end up going with?

[@LarryLunsford]

good. job. for. 302 ,,347,,bad. hot. rod

[@AdamAndersonFL]

I really enjoyed watching this build. GOod job

[@johnbehneman1546]

GREAT VIDEO AND A GREAT BUILD!!! THANK YOU SUMMIT RACING!!!!!

[@andrewbrown755]

Impressive hp per cubic inch!

[@289pinto]

@@mewrongway and any onther makes bulid would all be made by the oem manufacturer right... Yeah, dumbass.

[@jeremyrios433]

Need this motor bad!!!

[@NewtonWashinton]

Nice build Guys!

[@deanwaring6100]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏

[@wyattsullivan6355]

DO A 4.9 LITER/300 INLINE 6 BUILD!!!!!!!

[@2012lucasb]

They did.

[@wyattsullivan6355]

@@2012lucasb Are you thinking of the slant six? 4.9 isnt slanted and is a far far way better motor

[@black98rt]

Be interesting to see but man those motors were dogs.

[@wyattsullivan6355]

@@black98rt Oh yeah I drive one everyday itd be cool to see one set up for performance by these two.

[@jasonwilson6658]

4 barrel holley. Duel pumper

[@jamram7825]

Did u hear that engine sounded bad ass, wish I could fit this on my daily fuel efficient saturn sl1 95 it would be a sleeper

[@mymusic684]

The valve covers are amazing

[@dufus2273]

I like that . everything was right. those 205 runners help I've got a 302 and a 3.40 crank. I think ill build it like this.

[@rodericklewis832]

I would love to see what you guys could do with a 5.2 magnum 318

[@jasonwilson6658]

340 heads rv cam

[@BuzzLOLOL]

400 HP 318?: www.hotrod.com/articles/318-small-block-build

[@jonthomsen7433]

There is a guy running 10.80s in his barracuda with a 318 fourspeed. The most underrated engine mopar ever buikt

[@MikesTrackBuilding]

That was awesome. Something I am wondering...what is the run in procedure before you do the high rpm runs? How is that done?

[@Ken19700]

A Street/Strip engine is a mythical beast that doesn't exist in the real world.

[@KingJT80]

this is a street engine that can be used a a track. thats why they call it street strip

[@Ken19700]

@@KingJT80 a street engine that you take to the track and race is still a street engine.

[@KingJT80]

@@Ken19700 I know that im just saying thats why they gave it the term.

[@dogmandan79]

Could watch this all day. Wish I had somewhere to work/build engines at.

[@nicks.6577]

What about checking the intake clearance between it and the 'China walls"? I had an issue with mine being too big, had to get .030 shaved off the intake runners to lower the intake into the wedge created by the cylinder heads. This was need due to the decking of the block (.010), which changed the geometry of the cylinder head placement relative to each other and the intake. Overall, I wish I never took on building a Windsor 302. I thought it was a good motor until realizing its great deficiencies of main webbing strength (almost all stock blocks crack) and its small deck height creates major side-loading issues that prematurely wear out the cylinder bores in stroked applications. If you must build a stroker' Windsor, use the .030 pistons and a slightly less radical stroke than what the 347 requires to minimize side-loading. 347's require your piston compression height to be so small that your require a ring bridge to support the oil rings, makes you wonder about if exaggerating the stroke so much to get to 347ci is worth it long-term.

[@dsiner1obslifedziner157]

5.0 HO 🏁🏁🏁

[@spankthemonkey3437]

5.0 LO

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

@@spankthemonkey3437 gay=you

[@dsiner1obslifedziner157]

@@ragimundvonwallat8961 That's not what your mom said you transexal Troll...

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

Impressive rpms on that stroke. Summit sure has a great deal on that block with all that you get.

[@tonyking4725]

Thats a mean lil 302 great jobs guys awesome power from a lil 302

[@mustangfan5108]

I don’t know if the Engine Power guys read this, or if the PowerNation guys can let them know this, but can we possibly see a Hemi build at some point?

[@stang3028]

I’ll take one for a donation for my 67 fastback just saying

[@marklowe7431]

Great show, watching in Australia. Love the Windsors. Making that kind or pwr/tqe with a late 5.0 block is a bit of a worry. The girdle was good idea.

[@bear10bearessenticals26]

Be nice to fit in the AU vehicles and teach the holden alesson

[@randomdude4669]

@@bear10bearessenticals26 a barra will do that just fine while being much cheaper than this

[@bear10bearessenticals26]

@@randomdude4669 Im a V8 person, not a turbo fan,

[@grabir01]

A lot of power for a small block.. Wow!!

[@wyattyeary8050]

For a bunch of Chevy guys they seem pretty impressed with the ford. Was beginning to think this was a Chevy biased channel.

[@Etruscan70]

Chevy small blocks are cheaper , produce more power per dollar than any manufacturer , and dominate the track and strip with by far the most factory championships. It’s a actually not even close. So naturally it appears that most people are Chevy biased, when it’s not a bias. It’s what the market dictates.

[@wyattyeary8050]

@@Etruscan70 seems very opinionated lol

[@Etruscan70]

the total outright domination of Factory championships , and LS engines are the most swapped out power plants in the USA by far isn’t aren’t opinions Wyatt . They’re facts. Objective much? I have well Under 5k invested in an L92 that’s making a very street-able 600+ hp on a cam swap with mildly reworked heads. That’s hard not to notice.

[@wyattyeary8050]

@@Etruscan70 still opinionated responses. Go somewhere, what about the coyote? People aren’t making 2000 horsepower with ls blocks.

[@Etruscan70]

@@wyattyeary8050 yeah all those NHRA championships are my opinion lol 😆.. You’re right , nobody uses the the LS platform all , very rare to see people doing LS builds , and putting them into just about everything on four wheels. LS builds are definitely more expensive than Ford , or mopar , sure thing buddy lol. Anything you say 😂. I like coyotes , but they only make real numbers when you strap air compressor’s on them, and how much do you think it costs to get 600hp out of one , let alone 1200hp ? You’re looking at well over 12k even if you do your own work.

[@Saleen85111]

Summit doesn't show that block.. they switch you to a 5K combo from this episode.. bait and switch!

[@allanb3222]

I'm sure availability and pricing had changed over the years since this was aired.

[@I_like_turtles_67]

All these parts new is over 5 grand now.

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

You can buy the 86-93 5.0 blocks all day long off craigslist, Ebay, etc. You just have to have a shop do the machine work.

[@nicktipton5675]

@@allanb3222 I mean, it's only been 5 years.......

[@bacchusthompson5834]

@@TOMVUTHEPIMP block will split like a toothpick at this power level...

[@CrzyMav]

The technology has gotten a lot better now with these engines and parts that are now being sold.

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

great work guys

[@luketeverino6085]

Arp studs for the intake and oilpan but not for the heads or crank?

[@rickylawson6588]

Luke Teverino it's all arp hardware

[@ItsJoshN]

The heads of the studs on all the main caps and the girdle looked like arp

[@crashcourseinbruhsurgery]

Using ARP studs is basically a given.

[@luketeverino6085]

Nazty604 they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

[@luketeverino6085]

ricky Lawson they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

[@andrewwihlon7419]

I always thought you needed to degree a cam when doing a build and not to trust dot to dot.

[@blakebusbee2893]

When they start this show , It should be on TNT late at Night !

[@lilibethdoherty295]

Those AFR heads get all the credit!

[@alandominguez1707]

This would’ve been a cooler project if they would’ve done an efi 5.0.

[@martingatavaski1351]

Carb was just easier to test on the Dyno, a 86-93 Mustang EFI system would net same results with a good tune, n maybe even more hp n tq with the longer "upper n lower" intake runners... Step up to Holley efi management n numbers would definitely jump!

[@senna138]

Naw it wouldn't sound as good as a carb. I'd miss it.

[@anonymousanonymous9991]

@@martingatavaski1351 Horsepower would probably come down a few points but it wouldn't increase. You wouldn't see the horsepower difference until it was boosted. EFI would have a definitive torque advantage.

[@anonymousanonymous9991]

@@senna138 If they used a more aggressive cam with 114 degrees of lobe separation and a high rpm intake manifold it would sound similar. I believe they build the motor for high RPM anyways, so it wouldn't change the performance much. Unless you mean the vacuum lines/distributor whirring. That cannot be replicated.

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

EFI is ghey.

[@Ricks408]

Yo... what about that 351 Cleveland love?! 😢

[@codyfeatherstone553]

Wow that thing is amazing

[@Johans60]

Love the bleu distr. cap

[@jeffstevens664]

Why would you not degree the cam to get that cam inline with spec.

[@johnhamblin12201]

This drives me crazy about this show. They do every trick in the book when it comes to a chevy. but they spend thousands on this engine and don't use an adjustable timing set. if It was a chevy they would have.

[@strictlybusiness1598]

@@johnhamblin12201 the timing set has multiple keyways on the crank gear to adjust intake centerline. I'm positive this cam was put exactly where they wanted it.

[@traeheck3614]

The cam was 4 degrees advanced.

[@jeffstevens664]

@@bigboreracing356 how do you know we build super late model engines for runing in nascar i have seen deg a cam put out up to 30hp.

[@wysetech2000]

@@bigboreracing356 For all we know they degreed the cam and didn't show us. It takes a little time to do.

[@chadharmon5716]

Need one to replace my old 99 explorer 5.0 stat lol

[@joekeys9021]

That's what I'm thinking lol

[@HaynesJP]

I built a 302 with Explorer heads I ported and polished, put it in an 89 Hatchback and ran a 12.22@112mph. Fun little motor, surprised a lot of people.

[@xmo552]

@@HaynesJP That's it? What cam?

[@HaynesJP]

X Mo thats it? You can’t be serious. It was a custom grind from Camshaft Innovations. .571/.574 on a 114 LSA I believe.

[@xmo552]

@@HaynesJP You made it seem simple so I asked a simple question. I can assemble an engine but I haven't a clue about parts selection.

[@bluespig1]

Great build. My Australian 2001 model Falcon has a 300hp 5.0i Windsor as standard. A set of AFR heads might be just the ticket.

[@xmo552]

Is that the same engine as the Ford Explorer in the states?

[@buckbuck9225]

Great show

[@brandonmccollum6349]

7k rpm runs + stock block + 500 hp/tq = kaboom

[@Odin3v]

No it doesnt you idiot.

[@isuguy82]

Have you guys ever built a flat crank motor?

[@1320crusier]

oh oh! Idea! A Ford 427 cammer with a flat plane! That would be epic..

[@thedon3836]

@@1320crusier no.... just..... no

[@1320crusier]

@@thedon3836 why not? a super light crank in an engine that already has a good rep.. YES PLEASE! Add in some other luxuries like EFI, timing gears not chains, dry sump, try-y headers, etc... would be a yummy 10-11k rpm engine.

[@thedon3836]

@@1320crusier no no it wouldnt. I'll explain. 1964-1966 427 sohc aka big daddy cammer engine was built off of the FE engine block family 427 side and top oiler engine blocks. They were super rev happy being over head cam and many blew up because they had no real tells that they were being over revved like pushrod engines do as it was. They were designed for racing and having gobs of boost added to them hence the 90° crank. Flat plain cranks do not fair well with boost they snap under to much cylinder pressure. Switching to a flat plain from a 90 degree would make it rev even faster sure but it would also make them over rev faster and you would only keep it na at that point and probably less compression and power over all. Timing gears pass damaging rotational harmonics into the very hard but very brittle cams and they would shatter over 6000rpm which is why you don't see timing gears in high rpm large displacement engines and mostly only see them in low rpm diesels. All that plus your talking about an engine stock that costs more then most people's homes and that's if you can even find one. So again what you are talking about is an under educated pipe dream. Sorry but that's the truth.

[@1320crusier]

@@thedon3836 In dream land Comp Cams would be called on to make me some cams from modern materials. But no one is expecting anyone to actually build this. Though.. someone should. F1 engines and other race engines use gear drives.

[@78mrdad]

Love them little small block fords

[@robbiefrentz9427]

Man things so much better than 30 years ago when i was building

[@hereinmissoula11]

1 5/8 header was too small. 1 3/4 will pickup power , maybe over 15... also vict jr's are not very good out of the box... try a super victor instead, will also give you 15 more...

[@johnhamblin12201]

I love this show but.... They drive me crazy when it comes to ford stuff. Using studs for the intake but not mains or heads, spending thousands on high quality parts but not an adjustable timing set like they usually would on a chevy, using lunati with dog bone retainers instead of a good comp tie bar (yes I know they're a sponsor but so is comp) and spinning it to 6500? what is up with that, still wasn't nosing over. 400hp from a cam and head swap isn't a big deal with a regular 5.0 let alone spending thousands for 100 horse. So frustrating

[@jeanvi52]

It’s because it’s the stage 1 build

[@spankthemonkey3437]

Baggerz Anonymous they have people getting over 400 hp with stock everything inside and outside the engine in stock eliminator class. Actually the cam is the only change it's a stock lift super long duration cam. Those 5.0 ho are good engines

[@pickuptrucker17]

You guys crack me up, nice work!

[@joshuamoore24_7]

Next you should rebuild and upgrade a 305 5.0 gm block. I used to drive a 305 5.0 liter with a 750 cfm 4 barrel QuadraJet 3 speed automatic transmission 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais for about 4 years when I was working plumbing / new construction work in Arizona for few years.

[@tonyroman1569]

Had a 305 no don't bother

[@noahrodeghiero9640]

Thats alot of RTV on those china rails

[@dntlss]

I tell you something funny,Ive been around engines as long as i could walk and ive never heard anyone call them that,lol, learn something new every day, i myself love the little blue rubber gaskets that come in some kits,man those things are nice,cork gaskets suck bad.

[@jimcatx3090]

Who uses a impact gun installing rod caps and no lube on the camshaft I’m glad I built my motor

[@thatmarred_mustang]

They did use lube on the cam. They didnt say it but you could see it.

[@jimcatx3090]

Bucking Bronco was it clear I always use red thick sticky assembly lube adding it as it goes in they are not engine builders there on tv there hands aren’t even dirty

[@thatmarred_mustang]

@@jimcatx3090 I mean 🤷‍♂️ its whatever man. Yeah, it was clear

[@rcbustanut2057]

That's exactly what I was looking for to put in my kids power wheels car!! 😁

[@godwinjustiniano9938]

Wow about time a ford engine finally 😛

[@RoadRunner-ih4rq]

Hey Chevy lover's.... Checkmate 😆😆😆😂🤣

[@marcusc102]

Those are not 205 heads

[@charlesc.1999]

You are right had to rewind those are afr 195

[@K-Effect]

You could tell by how good it sounded at idle it was going to be rowdy

[@krystalloss5498]

Built Ford tough

[@SpooneyFranki20]

Needs EFI

[@baileymcdonald5705]

I'd love for you guys to purposely build an engine incorrectly to show what can possibly go wrong

[@Richard-wk9le]

Visit a junkyard.

[@jimbarrows4069]

Just ask toymota they do that all the time

[@EricH928]

That would be a very long video.

[@masterofnonetv8361]

That would be such a badass motor to put in my 66 coupe!!

[@bear10bearessenticals26]

be nice to see you boyz in Australia and educate the locals on 5.0 performance