Stroking A 5.0L Small Block Ford to 347 C.I. - Engine Power S2, E8

[@PowerNationTV]

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[@josephklimchock5412]

What was the final build cost?....Is it less than a Ford Motorsports new performance engine?

[@sammyvices2547]

Please build a stroked out 351W to 410 on fuel injection with twisted wedge heads

[@gregmyatt9932]

PowerNation would love to see a similar build done on a 302 with cleveland heads. The high revving little 302 is sweet music to my ears.

[@springwoodslasher79]

That's 225 hp and 300 torque. Get it right.

[@jnljnl8485]

You should turn this into a clevor next . just to compair the power defrence between the heads.

[@quadrider3013]

Wow, That young amish man sure knows a lot about engines.

[@alanfusselman1873]

You should see him rise a barn.

[@kimmorrison9169]

can’t grow the matching mustache!🥸

[@ed_1969]

😅

[@dirtydoggey]

😂😂

[@kalijasin]

Amish Mike

[@jeffweaver7011]

I love these little Fords. They are low deck, lightweight, and fit in a small engine bay. You can low budget one and get 300 - 350 horsepower with the stock heads. Use main cap studs or a girdle for high rpm. This is a cool build. Excellent job guys .

[@1320crusier]

Just dont push them much past 500hp though I suppose that girdle helps

[@spankthemonkey3437]

Jeff Weaver there are people using stock everything inside and outside these engines in stock eliminator class getting over 400 HP with a stock lift super long duration custom csm

[@spankthemonkey3437]

1320crusier I would weld the girdle on after torqing it down to keep any slipping from happening

[@1320crusier]

​@@spankthemonkey3437 if youre twisting the girdled mains you have other issues.

[@spankthemonkey3437]

1320crusier too much power

[@christianibarra9438]

Such a small engine, but has a heart of a lion! Love Ford!

[@ziggybammurphy191]

I wish i went to automotive school....i just watch and enjoy tinkering with engines for a hobby.....ive made good money for the last 13 years as an electrical lineman, but my heart has always been with engines and cars....

[@davidlopez7209]

Built using off the shelf parts, $10k later. At least they had the decency not to call it a budget build. Nice motor though.

[@johnl9977]

I had a 69' Mach 1 with a built 351 Windsor and that motor was pretty stout. Why not just throw the top end on a 351 without the expense of a stroker?

[@yurimodin7333]

@@johnl9977 hood clearance

[@marklowe7431]

Wow, the first 5.0 build in a while that invested in a girdle on a late 50 block. Smart move. Killer engine.

[@BustedWalletGarage]

“ we’re calling this build ‘Little Black & Blue’ because it’s going to be guilty of domestic violence against your wallet “

[@robsorgdrager8477]

Show me a big power n/a Ford small windsor build that don't. You think this build is expensive, try the same thing on a 318 mope ...I mean there is not a reason as the 318 and 360 are very close in hight. A 302 is a very short deck engine that's the reason for the stroker kit. So it cost a lot to play the displacement game. It's not like going forced induction is that much cheaper plus to build a small windsor to live a long life of being beat you need to make sure the machining and assembly are good even on a simple bolt on turbo kit. If you want to skirt some of the fancy things you can. I'd start with a 99-2000 explorer 5.0 and keep the edis ( electronic distributorless ignition ) run a crank trigger, use good heads , good nitrous cam and a msd box. Pill it till ya kill it and go get another junk yard block.

[@BustedWalletGarage]

Rob Sorgdrager look at some of my old videos and you’ll see me rebuilding a Ford 5.0 using an old car tire as an engine stand.

[@JoeyGarcia]

Quit crying!! Try building a Mopar! I'll cost you twice as much, and with less than half of the parts availability!

[@simplyfred8044]

Love my 347. But still pounding the dent out of my wallet. Lol. Great engine.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@BustedWalletGarage dude, I've been a mechanic and carguy since 97...I'm also not rich😕. I've used come alongs and a tree to pull engines, I like using tires to rest engines and trans'es on. I did a engine swap out the bottom of a Ford focus with Jack stands, a floor jack on class 5 ...that one required many many beers. I feel ya holms a good mechanic is like a marine...get the job done using what's at hand. 😊

[@michaelgiglio1571]

Ignition timings sounded perfect. See how nice a V8 can run with the distributor at the front, 💥

[@LA_Commander]

WOW, that might not be the most powerful motor I've ever seen, but it definitely is the BEST SOUNDING motor I've ever heard!

[@AJ1990.]

Having these guys do a ground up build for you would be a dream come true man. These guys have done hundreds of builds, and I have yet to see them half ass a build. The enthusiasm and passion for their work is what it's all about man. Its inspired me to pick up a wrench and start teaching myself.

[@CrzyMav]

I love these small block Fords. That’s all I built back in the late 80’s-90’s. These little engines are Bullit proof that’s why Carol Shelby loved them on his cars.

[@SamuelHollandsh]

Wow, what a nice video with attention to detail and the small block is really nice. Thanks

[@ImTheJoker4u]

I LOVE attention to detail. If you find a shop like that, give them ALL the business. "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten".

[@videomaniac108]

That is one sweet, smooth running engine. I could listen to it purr all day long.

[@wyattsullivan6355]

DO A 4.9 LITER/300 INLINE 6 BUILD!!!!!!!

[@2012lucasb]

They did.

[@wyattsullivan6355]

@@2012lucasb Are you thinking of the slant six? 4.9 isnt slanted and is a far far way better motor

[@black98rt]

Be interesting to see but man those motors were dogs.

[@wyattsullivan6355]

@@black98rt Oh yeah I drive one everyday itd be cool to see one set up for performance by these two.

[@jasonwilson6658]

4 barrel holley. Duel pumper

[@rrarms3159]

Excellent job and approach guys, thank you very much for your show! :-) Part list for your builds are incredible addition to all of us who dream about assembling own engine :-) BIG Thumbs up! :-)

[@car-man]

I run the car maintenance KZbin channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.

[@CameronLegend]

자동차의 모든 것[ Car & Man ] I’ll be in Korea in a few months, let’s collaborate 💪🏾

[@roberthusk3402]

Thats creepy, do u wanna blow them

[@ohioplayer-bl9em]

@@roberthusk3402 sounds like a love letter 💌

[@maynardreed4036]

I'm not really a ford guy, but that is pretty impressive.

[@carloscolon1009]

Thank You for sharing your wisdom. I love your show and your enthusiasm.

[@michaelbenoit248]

Me: "Wow 500HP 447FTLBS of torque naturally asperated." Inner Me. "Now turbo it."

[@1320crusier]

annnnddd... now you have 2 4 cylinder blocks..lol

[@_M_-mg3ix]

Michael Benoit for real tonaaah

[@spankthemonkey3437]

1320crusier yea he will turn it into two engines.

[@thedon3836]

Nope not with a stock block 347 kit. A 331 sure, better rod angle better rotational harmonics etc but you don't wanna run even 650hp threw a stock HO block they have a tendancy of splitting in half at the lifter valley. With the poor harmonics and radical rod angle of a 347 in a stock block I dout you could run 5lbs boost or even 560hp at the crank before she split in half.

[@mattgarkus2489]

Turbo a v8? Disgusting Put a blower and get better performance

[@AljosaPismonosa]

They were so serious until the moment they start testing the engine and playing around with the performance of it. They instantly become "big kids". I enjoyed it so much!

[@MegaScott]

Forgot to mention the crank rear seal installation and they didn't check the clearance between the oil pickup and the bottom of the oil pan, a major fubar since this is very important to be sure the oil pan does not suck up to the pickup. The composite distributor gear would have been a better choice to use versus the Bronze gear. The bronze gear will need replaced after a while of use, where the composite gear will not wear like the bronze gear will. Lots of excitement getting 500hp, when for about the same cost you could have built a 408 stroker and easily exceeded 500hp.

[@robertwest3093]

This engine dropped into a small bumper 1970-1972 Maverick would literally be SCARY!! I REALLY want to own another Ford Maverick of any year before I put my tools down for the final time. Short wheelbase and 2800-2900 pounds from the factory with MANY areas to drop several hundred more pounds of weight. It's basically THE perfect drag car!

[@jamiemuncy2219]

Now this is why I’m Ford to the core💯 Check this out, 507hp on a 8.2 deck pump gas engine!! That’s something for your arsenal 💯💯👍🏻👍🏻💯💯

[@XxMusclecarsxX]

sbf are the shit

[@caterpillar6nz310]

are you nut ?

[@yeetskeetledeet8184]

caterpillar6nz no, i DO nut

[@sschevmale24]

Ford sux . Unless you build it yourself. All the new dohc is shit

[@BuzzLOLOL]

This is aftermarket, not "Ford"...

[@pranays]

I'm 45 and I finally learned you can girdle 2 bot mains. Thanks.

[@chasevans7171]

Great to see as I'm in the middle of doing a 347 build. The "order up some pushrods they'll be with you next day" thing unfortunately not so easy if you live in the UK. More like three weeks. And then there's duty to pay on top of shipping before you can actually take delivery. (Expensive). We do have some really good helpful American speed parts stockists here in the UK but they can't stock everything a huge US company like summit can unfortunately.

[@gregmyatt9932]

Chas Evans yeah i know how you feel. Im in Oz and its the same hassles but you wait 2 months for stuff to get here, then its wrong and have to send it back. Plus its triple the price compared to US.

[@johnbehneman1546]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! TOTALLY AWESOME BUILD FOR A DAILY DRIVER!!!! A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR THIS MOTOR!!! SUPERCHARGER SUGGESTION!!!!!

[@393strokedcoupe]

Awesome results. I'd love to see you guys do a street/strip, more street, 393 Windsor with a stock block. My block is the slightly shorter deck height 9.480" version out of a 69 Torino. From what I understand the main girdle webbings are thicker too. I'm trying for 10.5 to 11 to 1 compression.

[@buckykattguitar]

393stroker I did exactly that for my 68 Fairlane! She's a beast.

[@393strokedcoupe]

@@buckykattguitar What heads and induction did you end up going with?

[@LarryLunsford]

good. job. for. 302 ,,347,,bad. hot. rod

[@joshuamoore24_7]

Nice job that Ford Frankenstein 347 stroker engine build!!!!

[@RjLewis94]

I would love to see what you guys could do with a 5.2 magnum 318

[@jasonwilson6658]

340 heads rv cam

[@BuzzLOLOL]

400 HP 318?: www.hotrod.com/articles/318-small-block-build

[@jonthomsen7433]

There is a guy running 10.80s in his barracuda with a 318 fourspeed. The most underrated engine mopar ever buikt

[@paulnewman2778]

So glad PN is back. Saturdays have not been the same once they started messing with the talent and program style.

[@andrewbrown755]

Impressive hp per cubic inch!

[@289pinto]

@@mewrongwayKOCXF and any onther makes bulid would all be made by the oem manufacturer right... Yeah, dumbass.

[@philthyco1]

Great motor..I hand one similar in my 67' Cougar ..With the Scat stroker kit and a Blue Chip Racing wolverine cam

[@kimcokevin]

Loving the blue oval content!

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

This was the first engine these guys have built. True story. They did pretty good for a first attempt...

[@gregrogers3030]

Sweet build you guys!!!!

[@thomascoker3600]

that lined up lettering on the freeze plugs will give it a hundred horsepower

[@luketeverino6085]

Arp studs for the intake and oilpan but not for the heads or crank?

[@rickylawson6588]

Luke Teverino it's all arp hardware

[@ItsJoshN]

The heads of the studs on all the main caps and the girdle looked like arp

[@crashcourseinbruhsurgery]

Using ARP studs is basically a given.

[@luketeverino6085]

Nazty604 they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

[@luketeverino6085]

ricky Lawson they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

[@bluespig1]

Great build. My Australian 2001 model Falcon has a 300hp 5.0i Windsor as standard. A set of AFR heads might be just the ticket.

[@xmo552]

Is that the same engine as the Ford Explorer in the states?

[@AmericanThunder]

Sticking with a 332" (3.25" x 4.030") ends up making more power and being generally more durable than the larger 347" stroker due to the better rod to stroke ratio. I run custom length 5.5" rods in my 332", so the rod to stroke ratio is 1.69:1, which is what a stock 302 has. Longer piston dwell times and less piston side load on the cylinder walls means more efficiency and longevity. Also, when building a stroker, (or any high hp 302) the pre-1983(you can tell from the 2-piece rear seal vs 1-piece rear seal) 302 blocks weigh 120 lbs, whereas their newer counterparts only weigh 80 lbs. That extra 40 lbs of cast material was removed mostly from the main bearing support area of the block in the new castings, and Ford did that to help lighten the nose on the Mustang fox bodies for better handling. The end result is, a heavier older 302 block can "reliably" handle upwards of 800-850hp, while the newer 5.0 blocks can only deal with 450-500 before they fail.(that's assuming you run a billet steel main stud girdle) p.s. The Race Demon carb series were tested on a dyno vs various performance fuel injection systems, and the Race Demons actually made more HP and much to the surprise of everyone, also outperformed fuel injection on low end torque too. Barry Grant knows how to build a carb. This is why I always suggest the Barry Grant RD carbs over any other Holley style carb.

[@xmo552]

Thanks for the info. Would you mind sharing more please?

[@sategllib2191]

I never could believe the 5.0 blocks could handle so little

[@tonyking4725]

Thats a mean lil 302 great jobs guys awesome power from a lil 302

[@pimpovic2]

16:00 that sound on deceleration. Nice.

[@NewtonWashinton]

Nice build Guys!

[@nicks.6577]

What about checking the intake clearance between it and the 'China walls"? I had an issue with mine being too big, had to get .030 shaved off the intake runners to lower the intake into the wedge created by the cylinder heads. This was need due to the decking of the block (.010), which changed the geometry of the cylinder head placement relative to each other and the intake. Overall, I wish I never took on building a Windsor 302. I thought it was a good motor until realizing its great deficiencies of main webbing strength (almost all stock blocks crack) and its small deck height creates major side-loading issues that prematurely wear out the cylinder bores in stroked applications. If you must build a stroker' Windsor, use the .030 pistons and a slightly less radical stroke than what the 347 requires to minimize side-loading. 347's require your piston compression height to be so small that your require a ring bridge to support the oil rings, makes you wonder about if exaggerating the stroke so much to get to 347ci is worth it long-term.

[@Ken19700]

A Street/Strip engine is a mythical beast that doesn't exist in the real world.

[@KingJT80]

this is a street engine that can be used a a track. thats why they call it street strip

[@Ken19700]

@@KingJT80 a street engine that you take to the track and race is still a street engine.

[@KingJT80]

@@Ken19700 I know that im just saying thats why they gave it the term.

[@Rudderify]

Nice numbers! Looking forward to stage 2.

[@christopherhull2416]

Man, I remember Pat when I went to S.A.M. Great job

[@andrewinsinga2993]

Wow you guy's didn't degree the camshaft!!

[@57ozcar]

My first V8 was a 221 Windsor. Love what you have done to the 302.

[@jamram7825]

Did u hear that engine sounded bad ass, wish I could fit this on my daily fuel efficient saturn sl1 95 it would be a sleeper

[@RyanBenbow]

It would bend it in half. Don't do it ❌

[@johnbehneman1546]

GREAT VIDEO AND A GREAT BUILD!!! THANK YOU SUMMIT RACING!!!!!

[@stang3028]

I’ll take one for a donation for my 67 fastback just saying

[@2ndsspz]

this build was pre covid, thanks Joe

[@Saleen85111]

Summit doesn't show that block.. they switch you to a 5K combo from this episode.. bait and switch!

[@allanb3222]

I'm sure availability and pricing had changed over the years since this was aired.

[@I_like_turtles_67]

All these parts new is over 5 grand now.

[@SOLDOZER]

You can buy the 86-93 5.0 blocks all day long off craigslist, Ebay, etc. You just have to have a shop do the machine work.

[@nicktipton5675]

@@allanb3222 I mean, it's only been 5 years.......

[@bacchusthompson5834]

@@SOLDOZER block will split like a toothpick at this power level...

[@CrzyMav]

The technology has gotten a lot better now with these engines and parts that are now being sold.

[@jeffstevens664]

Why would you not degree the cam to get that cam inline with spec.

[@johnhamblin12201]

This drives me crazy about this show. They do every trick in the book when it comes to a chevy. but they spend thousands on this engine and don't use an adjustable timing set. if It was a chevy they would have.

[@strictlybusiness1598]

@@johnhamblin12201 the timing set has multiple keyways on the crank gear to adjust intake centerline. I'm positive this cam was put exactly where they wanted it.

[@traeheck3614]

The cam was 4 degrees advanced.

[@jeffstevens664]

@@bigboreracing356 how do you know we build super late model engines for runing in nascar i have seen deg a cam put out up to 30hp.

[@wysetech2000]

@@bigboreracing356 For all we know they degreed the cam and didn't show us. It takes a little time to do.

[@robbiefrentz9427]

Man things so much better than 30 years ago when i was building

[@alandominguez1707]

This would’ve been a cooler project if they would’ve done an efi 5.0.

[@martingatavaski1351]

Carb was just easier to test on the Dyno, a 86-93 Mustang EFI system would net same results with a good tune, n maybe even more hp n tq with the longer "upper n lower" intake runners... Step up to Holley efi management n numbers would definitely jump!

[@senna138]

Naw it wouldn't sound as good as a carb. I'd miss it.

[@anonymousanonymous9991]

@@martingatavaski1351 Horsepower would probably come down a few points but it wouldn't increase. You wouldn't see the horsepower difference until it was boosted. EFI would have a definitive torque advantage.

[@anonymousanonymous9991]

@@senna138 If they used a more aggressive cam with 114 degrees of lobe separation and a high rpm intake manifold it would sound similar. I believe they build the motor for high RPM anyways, so it wouldn't change the performance much. Unless you mean the vacuum lines/distributor whirring. That cannot be replicated.

[@SOLDOZER]

EFI is ghey.

[@dogmandan79]

Could watch this all day. Wish I had somewhere to work/build engines at.

[@mustangfan5108]

I don’t know if the Engine Power guys read this, or if the PowerNation guys can let them know this, but can we possibly see a Hemi build at some point?

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

Impressive rpms on that stroke. Summit sure has a great deal on that block with all that you get.

[@wyattyeary8050]

For a bunch of Chevy guys they seem pretty impressed with the ford. Was beginning to think this was a Chevy biased channel.

[@Etruscan70]

Chevy small blocks are cheaper , produce more power per dollar than any manufacturer , and dominate the track and strip with by far the most factory championships. It’s a actually not even close. So naturally it appears that most people are Chevy biased, when it’s not a bias. It’s what the market dictates.

[@wyattyeary8050]

@@Etruscan70 seems very opinionated lol

[@Etruscan70]

the total outright domination of Factory championships , and LS engines are the most swapped out power plants in the USA by far isn’t aren’t opinions Wyatt . They’re facts. Objective much? I have well Under 5k invested in an L92 that’s making a very street-able 600+ hp on a cam swap with mildly reworked heads. That’s hard not to notice.

[@wyattyeary8050]

@@Etruscan70 still opinionated responses. Go somewhere, what about the coyote? People aren’t making 2000 horsepower with ls blocks.

[@Etruscan70]

@@wyattyeary8050 yeah all those NHRA championships are my opinion lol 😆.. You’re right , nobody uses the the LS platform all , very rare to see people doing LS builds , and putting them into just about everything on four wheels. LS builds are definitely more expensive than Ford , or mopar , sure thing buddy lol. Anything you say 😂. I like coyotes , but they only make real numbers when you strap air compressor’s on them, and how much do you think it costs to get 600hp out of one , let alone 1200hp ? You’re looking at well over 12k even if you do your own work.

[@marklowe7431]

Great show, watching in Australia. Love the Windsors. Making that kind or pwr/tqe with a late 5.0 block is a bit of a worry. The girdle was good idea.

[@bear10bearessenticals26]

Be nice to fit in the AU vehicles and teach the holden alesson

[@randomdude4669]

@@bear10bearessenticals26 a barra will do that just fine while being much cheaper than this

[@bear10bearessenticals26]

@@randomdude4669 Im a V8 person, not a turbo fan,

[@MikesTrackBuilding]

That was awesome. Something I am wondering...what is the run in procedure before you do the high rpm runs? How is that done?

[@chadbrattain7985]

Man that's a big hp jump from 302ci to 347ci. I'm just about done assembling my motor from my 94 Cobra 5.0. I had the block stroked out to 347ci and bought a set of Edelbrock performer aluminum heads with 1.6 roller rockers on intake and 1.7 roller rockers on exhaust because I'm running a 150 jet shot of nitrous oxide and the bigger rockers on the exhaust gives me another 10 to 15 more HP with the nitrous oxide. Those numbers were the HP gain from the 302ci before the stroker setup. So I'm curious to see what the gain will be after. But the roller rockers, cam, pushrods, double spring valve springs, valves, valve seals, and retainers and all are comp Cams. I have a 80mm throttle body and 85mm MAF, cold air intake, under drive pulleys, BBK short tube headers, MSD ignition system, 150shot WOT setup wet NX nitrous oxide, a 3 key fuel pump system with 3 190lph fuel pumps with manual pump shutoff system so I can run one pump for normal driving and if I need to run 2 pumps or even 3 pumps for racing, a adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 30lb injectors (but might change over to 48lb injectors if setup needs bigger setup). I'm using my original Cobra intake manifold upper and lower because they are the same size or bigger than the aftermarket intakes, but I have reported them. I'm running a 3in exhaust system with a BBK pro series xpipe with 40 series flowmasters. I have a lot more but it's hard to remember everything but without nitrous oxide I was thinking the motor would be pushing around 400whp. But by watching this I might have underestimated the power gain by alot. But I did use my factory block and had it machined so I don't know if that will play a part in the difference. I don't see how it would sense it's machined to the same cubic inches, but I don't know for sure if it will make a difference. I was going to pro charge my 347ci because I wanted to have around 550whp but if I get the same numbers or close to these without nitrous oxide I'm good. I guess I'll see tomorrow when I finish my motor assembly. I also completely rebuilt my t5 transmission and 373 rear end to be able to handle the increase in horse power and torque.

[@455buick6]

So what did you end up with

[@dsiner1obslifedziner157]

5.0 HO 🏁🏁🏁

[@spankthemonkey3437]

5.0 LO

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

@@spankthemonkey3437 gay=you

[@dsiner1obslifedziner157]

@@ragimundvonwallat8961 That's not what your mom said you transexal Troll...

[@mymusic684]

The valve covers are amazing

[@J_rios433]

Need this motor bad!!!

[@EliminatorPerformance]

Wondering if anyone's had an issue running the M68MV oil pump with this Moroso crank girdle? Lots of comments on Summit from people saying they had to grind and modify things to make clearance.

[@Ricks408]

Yo... what about that 351 Cleveland love?! 😢

[@dufus2273]

I like that . everything was right. those 205 runners help I've got a 302 and a 3.40 crank. I think ill build it like this.

[@andrewwihlon7419]

I always thought you needed to degree a cam when doing a build and not to trust dot to dot.

[@lilibethdoherty295]

Those AFR heads get all the credit!

[@hereinmissoula11]

1 5/8 header was too small. 1 3/4 will pickup power , maybe over 15... also vict jr's are not very good out of the box... try a super victor instead, will also give you 15 more...

[@AdamAndersonFL]

I really enjoyed watching this build. GOod job

[@johnhamblin12201]

I love this show but.... They drive me crazy when it comes to ford stuff. Using studs for the intake but not mains or heads, spending thousands on high quality parts but not an adjustable timing set like they usually would on a chevy, using lunati with dog bone retainers instead of a good comp tie bar (yes I know they're a sponsor but so is comp) and spinning it to 6500? what is up with that, still wasn't nosing over. 400hp from a cam and head swap isn't a big deal with a regular 5.0 let alone spending thousands for 100 horse. So frustrating

[@jeanvi52]

It’s because it’s the stage 1 build

[@spankthemonkey3437]

Baggerz Anonymous they have people getting over 400 hp with stock everything inside and outside the engine in stock eliminator class. Actually the cam is the only change it's a stock lift super long duration cam. Those 5.0 ho are good engines

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

great work guys

[@isuguy82]

Have you guys ever built a flat crank motor?

[@1320crusier]

oh oh! Idea! A Ford 427 cammer with a flat plane! That would be epic..

[@thedon3836]

@@1320crusier no.... just..... no

[@1320crusier]

@@thedon3836 why not? a super light crank in an engine that already has a good rep.. YES PLEASE! Add in some other luxuries like EFI, timing gears not chains, dry sump, try-y headers, etc... would be a yummy 10-11k rpm engine.

[@thedon3836]

@@1320crusier no no it wouldnt. I'll explain. 1964-1966 427 sohc aka big daddy cammer engine was built off of the FE engine block family 427 side and top oiler engine blocks. They were super rev happy being over head cam and many blew up because they had no real tells that they were being over revved like pushrod engines do as it was. They were designed for racing and having gobs of boost added to them hence the 90° crank. Flat plain cranks do not fair well with boost they snap under to much cylinder pressure. Switching to a flat plain from a 90 degree would make it rev even faster sure but it would also make them over rev faster and you would only keep it na at that point and probably less compression and power over all. Timing gears pass damaging rotational harmonics into the very hard but very brittle cams and they would shatter over 6000rpm which is why you don't see timing gears in high rpm large displacement engines and mostly only see them in low rpm diesels. All that plus your talking about an engine stock that costs more then most people's homes and that's if you can even find one. So again what you are talking about is an under educated pipe dream. Sorry but that's the truth.

[@1320crusier]

@@thedon3836 In dream land Comp Cams would be called on to make me some cams from modern materials. But no one is expecting anyone to actually build this. Though.. someone should. F1 engines and other race engines use gear drives.

[@truckstractorswildlifeguns6648]

Bridge the valley also,high rpm Windsor block can split in the middle of the lifter valley .glad the bottom end is caged .

[@HammerHeadGarage]

A roller 351 would crush this engine for alot less money.

[@xmo552]

@Steve Hicks Damn Hicks did you see how many grammar and spelling errors you spat out? That aint don't quiet werk fer mush in yer faver. 😡

[@albertgaspar627]

installing the piston rings this way is a great way to break one of them. Buy the proper expansion tool, and the distortion of the ring occurs around its circumference, not located in a smaller quarter of the ring. Also, install the cam before the crank, and you can reach in and help guide it in so as not to score a bearing. But if you find a cam bearing is too tight? Easier to fix it when the crank isn't in the way.

[@brandonmccollum6349]

7k rpm runs + stock block + 500 hp/tq = kaboom

[@Odin3v]

No it doesnt you idiot.

[@magdump7380]

Can’t go wrong with a Windsor.🤘

[@jimbarrows4069]

Yeah just need to put Cleveland heads on it

[@chadharmon5716]

Need one to replace my old 99 explorer 5.0 stat lol

[@joekeys9021]

That's what I'm thinking lol

[@HaynesJP]

I built a 302 with Explorer heads I ported and polished, put it in an 89 Hatchback and ran a 12.22@112mph. Fun little motor, surprised a lot of people.

[@xmo552]

@@HaynesJP That's it? What cam?

[@HaynesJP]

X Mo thats it? You can’t be serious. It was a custom grind from Camshaft Innovations. .571/.574 on a 114 LSA I believe.

[@xmo552]

@@HaynesJP You made it seem simple so I asked a simple question. I can assemble an engine but I haven't a clue about parts selection.

[@grabir01]

A lot of power for a small block.. Wow!!

[@jimcatx3090]

Who uses a impact gun installing rod caps and no lube on the camshaft I’m glad I built my motor

[@thatmarred_mustang]

They did use lube on the cam. They didnt say it but you could see it.

[@jimcatx3090]

Bucking Bronco was it clear I always use red thick sticky assembly lube adding it as it goes in they are not engine builders there on tv there hands aren’t even dirty

[@thatmarred_mustang]

@@jimcatx3090 I mean 🤷‍♂️ its whatever man. Yeah, it was clear

[@smokeyray5017]

Got one in a 32 3 window coupe. IT IS A HANDFUL!

[@RoadRunner-ih4rq]

Hey Chevy lover's.... Checkmate 😆😆😆😂🤣

[@Johans60]

Love the bleu distr. cap

[@baileymcdonald5705]

I'd love for you guys to purposely build an engine incorrectly to show what can possibly go wrong

[@Richard-wk9le]

Visit a junkyard.

[@jimbarrows4069]

Just ask toymota they do that all the time

[@EricH928]

That would be a very long video.

[@bryans3287]

I'm A GM guy all the way But I have to say It was always Is pretty cool watching a 5.0 v8 Fox body Ford Mustang go sideways on the streets

[@marcusc102]

Those are not 205 heads

[@charlesc.1999]

You are right had to rewind those are afr 195

[@godwinjustiniano9938]

Wow about time a ford engine finally 😛

[@noahrodeghiero9640]

Thats alot of RTV on those china rails

[@dntlss]

I tell you something funny,Ive been around engines as long as i could walk and ive never heard anyone call them that,lol, learn something new every day, i myself love the little blue rubber gaskets that come in some kits,man those things are nice,cork gaskets suck bad.

[@cemeteryhill]

I love the Windsor family! I have a 1968 Mercury Cougar XR7 with the 302W.

[@noneya6334]

I think thats just a ford small block 5.0 , not a Windsor bro

[@cemeteryhill]

@@noneya6334 That was fast. Why do you think that? It is from the Windsor family avaliable in the '68 Cougar from the factory.

[@jimbarrows4069]

But isn't a Windsor motor go even better with.cleveland heads that's what I heard Windsor block with Cleveland heads

[@cemeteryhill]

@@jimbarrows4069 I have heard similar things about the 351C heads, never swapped them myself though. The 351C was bigger than the 351W in many ways(the heads for ex.) I know there are aftermarket heads for the 351W & possibly the 302W that are based off the 351C heads. Supposed to be a good design for the times I think.

[@SpooneyFranki20]

Needs EFI

[@78mrdad]

Love them little small block fords

[@alexcorona]

Never understood 347s...Just get a bloody 351W. It literally fits directly where a 302 goes. Don't even need swap mounts. Parts are just as cheap since it shares alot of parts, blocks are plentiful and roller ready.

[@Ecosse57]

i was thinking that too. i like the 302 but if going for more cubes why not the 351?

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

it dosent always fit, depending on what you run

[@K-Effect]

You could tell by how good it sounded at idle it was going to be rowdy