350 Legend vs 450 Bushmaster - Ultimate Comparison Video

[@wiseguysoutdoors2954]

I have the Ruger bolt carbine in 450 bushmaster and I love the light weight of it. My grandson, 13, had the choice of it, the 6.5 Creedmoor and a 308. I was really surprised he chose the 450. I even thought it may be too much recoil, but he said it fit him and felt right. So I told him that it was his to use. Last Saturday afternoon, he took his first deer, a big doe, and dropped her in her tracks. He said he didn't notice any kick, and couldn't have been happier. I use the Hornaday 245 gr interlocks in it. They are more solid and are not like some of the others loaded with glorified pistol bullets. I am really impressed with the accuracy and performance of that load. I don't see myself or my son using it anytime soon, lol. Daniel has his claim on it,

[@tasaman]

I think people discount a good stock fit more than they should. It really helps with accuracy and recoil management.

[@Manco65]

​@@tasamanI agree I have xl/XXL sized hands, going by glove sizes and I'm 6'2" l don't care much for tiny and thin stocks or the grip area on them

[@IRishbuck58]

I bought a CVA 350 Legend for my 9 year old grandson he shoots it great at 100 yards got a nice 6 point last season his first deer. Good rifle

[@PassivePortfolios]

The 350 Legend is more popular than all other cartridges combined n the straight wall states. It gets the job done with minimal recoil, low cost and easy to find ammo, and plenty of cheap rifles chambered for it.

[@chunt4694]

Gave up my 12 gauge Remington 870 with rifled slug barrel, bought a Ruger American in 350 legend. Dropped my doe at about 40 yards in her tracks. I switched to the 350 because it doesn't beat me up like the Remington 12 gauge!!

[@Milspecpoptart]

There's a time and place for a shotgun. But we have so many more good rifles these days.

[@jeremystyron9721]

Great job on comparing the two . Personally, I like them both, but I reload. When you reload, you get way better ballistics & velocity data . Their are so many really good powders , brass , bullets, and primers on the market today. The sky is the limit . And if you are not reloading your own ammo, you will not understand. I also know most people either don't know how or their afraid to or just thank it's expensive. To tell you the truth It's not you can get everything you need to start for $200-$350 . Don't be afraid to buy used equipment. Their's lots of good stuff out their today . God bless you and your family God-bless America 🇺🇸 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱.

[@h_in_oh]

May need to test 400 Legend right in between those two.

[@whodoyouthinkiam210]

And the 41 greatlakes!

[@bsar9128]

I’d like to see the 400 Legend tested with them also

[@linkbond08]

9mm vs 45 vs 40sw vibes

[@justincoram1137]

I just recently purchased a 450, it did not disappoint!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome choice!

[@ryanharris6045]

A wonderful compilation of classic Who Tee Hoo! Paper plate penetration, breaking concrete blocks and blowing up watermelons on a summer day! Love it!

[@Manco65]

Me realizing that free phone books are a thing of the past. 😛

[@mjc4942]

Thanks for this. I'm in straight wall land so this year I picked up a Ruger 450, with 22 in. barrel. Very happy with it. Got a nice doe. No tracking. There are several choices of optics built for 450. I like how this gun is in the middle of the price range. With a little practice even I can keep up with most other big caliber. One coworker believes they're good out to 300y. for deer. I'm comfortable at 200 for now.

[@_Steve_W]

I can vouch for the bear creek ballistics ammo in 350. First year we used the 350 for deer hunting (we live in a straight-walled state). It does real well 👍

[@steventaylor8095]

Bought a 450 BM in the Ruger American Go Wild last year. Have taken 5 hogs and a nice 7pt cull buck. None have needed tracking. The bear creek 240 grain all copper load going 2590 fps is the ticket. Did a zero test this year after being stored all season. Two shots. Both holes still touching at 100 yds. I don’t have a 350 legend to compare it with. But, 6 full size animals taken and not 1 needed tracked is about all the real world proof I need. Thing hits like a sledge hammer. Thanks for the great videos WTW! God bless brother.

[@bretgeidel613]

I got a buck with my 450 bushmaster this pew deer season. I heard the round connect with the buck at about 80 yards away the buck immediately went down. *SIDE NOTE* I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM HORNADY BLACK FTX BULLETS FOR WHITETAIL DEER. 250GR FTX COMPLETELY TURNED TO SHRAPNEL NO PASS THROUGH.

[@scottpaulsen2649]

Well that is what is called energy transfer if you don't get a pass through it has dumped its energy and 99%of the time they drop where they stand

[@mjc4942]

I believe that. I've seen what Barnes copper bullets can do. They work great. They open up but don't fragment often. Bit more money but worth it.

[@czguy3045]

I've never shot them out of a centerfire, but in a muzzleloader, the FTX is definitely designed to transfer all that energy within about 15 to 20 inches. Rarely would see a full pass through. Should definitely result in a dead deer and probably less likely to run very far but yeah... no pass through and likely less of a blood trail.

[@kennethgarrett5700]

bought a ruger ranch in 350 Legend in 2020 since then I have took 19 deer in 5 seasons from 120yds to less than ten yds longest recovery was about 40yds most i could see fall . I don't say every body should hunt with a 350 legend but it works for me. PS, 150 gr winchester XT deer season ammo, under 1 inch group at 100yds

[@hoovey86]

I've usedboth the 450 and 350 since Ohio legalized straight wall cartridges. I was really impressed by the 450, dropping several deer instantly even with marginal shot placement. I didn't love the 350 at first because my track jobs, even with good shot placement, were longer than when I shoot deer with a bow. I just got terrible expansion with 150 grain and 180 grain soft points (the Winchersters you tested). This year I switched to 170 grain Barnes VOR-TX loads and both deer dropped within 20 yards of being hit. The ammo isn't quite as consistent as other choices, but they expanded beautifully at 100 yards. 450 recoil was a bit much for me without a muzzle break. the 350 was very comfortable.

[@ducktapepilot]

Bought a 450 BM this year. Shot a doe on opening day at about 60 yards. She dropped in her steps. Very impressed so far!

[@Mark-Marine]

I’m old and resist change lol. However, I have momentarily considered a 360 Buckhammer (just because I like 35 Remington). I have two bolt actions that I’m giving to grandchildren this year and just sticking with single shots and my one lever action.

[@elvinirons5959]

2 shots n 2 deers in the freezer with 2 different shooters n states with my 350 legend in the Short barreled Ruger n way less recoil then those 450 bush busters!!! JMO , another Great Video !!!👏👏

[@tcburgess2939]

Something that I don’t see very many people talking about is the fact that both the 450 and the 350 when loaded in a bolt action can be much stronger and pushed a lot harder most of the bolt guns available for the 450 bushmaster can handle well up to 60,000 psi Where the load for the hornady FTX 250 grain that a lot of people use is only pushing around 38,000 psi. Personally, I use Bear Creek ballistics 240 grain in my 450 bushmaster and I think that’s really hard to beat nothing else that’s available in my state to use comes close to what that has for down range energy as far as recoil goes I don’t really think 450 even has much recoil in the proper brake on it, but I grew up using slug gunsso I got used to recoil

[@scottwinkle5503]

Great video. You have not done many water jug or paper plate tests lately, I hope you start doing them again as they are very enjoyable. I do not have a 350 or a 450 but I do have CVA Scouts in 444 and 45/70 that definitely get the job done.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

More soon

[@mike-xh3yh]

They’re is a new straight wall in the process of going commercial or attempting to go commercial I should say. It’s called the 41 Great Lakes, has better energy, and shoots flatter than the 450 while having substantially less recoil. Two guys from Michigan developed this round and are working hard to get it up and running. They have an FB page and a few videos of taking deer with this round. I think if it gets off the ground it will replace the 450 and 350. Also I would just like to add it ballistically beats the 400 legend.

[@PassivePortfolios]

The 350 is the perfectly designed cartridge for the job. Nothing will unseat its dominance in the straight wall states. The bigger straight wall cartridges kick and cost too much and are hard to find.

[@jesusisalive3227]

​@@PassivePortfolios The 450 is not hard to find.

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

Both are good. 350 kicks less if that matters to you. It also cost less here if that matters. If you’re looking for a plinker to shoot a lot I’d say 350. If you just want to hunt and have the most knock down power I’d say 450. They both have plenty to take whitetail deer without any problems from my experience.

[@DontTreadonMe1775]

The new 400 legend is to be just as powerful as 450 bm bus recoil like 350 legend

[@hjh2026]

Love my bushmaster!

[@danieltroke3721]

I got a 10 point this season with my 350. Ran off pretty far but minimal meat loss. Going to try the 450 next season

[@_Steve_W]

Congrats on the deer. What ammo are you using?

[@danieltroke3721]

​@@_Steve_WHornady Custom FTX 165 grain

[@sethperry1323]

I had a couple 350s.. im back to the ol 450bm.... I have a 12.5" 450bm AR shooting 250gr bullet at 2100fps...

[@eddawg79]

Both do what they're designed to do .350 is softer on the shoulder .450 hits harder. Pick one and you won't be disappointed.

[@czguy3045]

Good vid as always! Here's my take: I have two 350 Legends, an AR and a Ruger American Ranch Gen II. I do not own a Bushmaster. I do tend to lean towards lighter/faster loads in general. I don't need a straight-walled cartridge where I hunt but I would if I hunted public land. I'd be using that Fusion or the Barnes TTX if I were to actually go out with the Legend though that Hornady Whitetail looks like a great offering as usual, but specifically in the 350 Legend. The 450 just looks like too much recoil for not a lot of added benefit. The 350 is a pussycat. Feels about like a 243 whereas the 450 is closer to a 30/06 but slower or maybe about like a slower 12 gauge slug. For an experienced shooter, that's fine but for a newer shooter... I just think he or she is going to get up to speed much more easily with the Legend and within 150 yards, I just don't think the 450 is worth it.

[@randyk2904]

Great video. 450 Bushmaster Hoot Tooty !

[@jerrykey9053]

The 360 buckhammer is my favorite

[@williamgaines9784]

I got 350 Legend for grandkids to use during "primitive" season. It does the trick in CVA Scout. I won't be getting the 450, because I have a 500 S&W, and 44 mag. Nothing against it, but just don't need every cartridge ever made.

[@Funting3417]

Sure you don't need every cartridge but..... Sure would be cool if ya did

[@williamgaines9784]

@Funting3417 Fortunately, and hopefully far into the future, nobody in the USA is limited to a cartridge they "need". Get what you want and have fun with however many it may be.😉

[@NC-xk1eg]

Great test, very thorough. Good job!

[@jamesbromstead4949]

I'll go with the 350 Legend, but only because I already have a rifle in this caliber.

[@stevetemple8012]

The 350 is every bit as good as a whitetail rig as the 450. Bottom line I haven’t seen any measurable difference between the two. Both kill quickly and produce good blood trails.

[@warrenpolidori5541]

Good terminal results for both, and either way dead deer. Fan of larger diameter bullets especially those in 45-70. Bigger, heavier, works better for me at close range, dense NE woods. Never been disappointed with a 300+ grain 45cal bullet. Thanks for a very informative video WTH.

[@markstone3736]

350 legend is better pal. Keep up the good videos. Good ol deer huntin guys don't give a crap bout ballistics we just like the water jug, clay, and common videos

[@brokenarrow6491]

I use the 350 legend wiith a 160 grain solid copper bullet and 22" barrel. Works great for whitetails. The 450 has a lot more recoil which i don't mind much but it is also extremely loud and i hunt near dwellings. I can't shoot further than 150 yards on my places to hunt. We have to use straight walled cartridges in my county and compared to my slug gun the 350 is awesome.

[@kody7316]

I would pick the 350 legend. Hunting with my niece and she killed a doe at 241 yrds with just a top of the back hold over. Was really disappointed in 7.62x39 4 of us were hunting with them getting good hits they would flop right over with hornady interlocks and hornady SST. Then they got up an ran without a drop of blood. Still have to try the Barnes. But judging by the water bottle test the interlocks and the barnes had similar penatration but the barnes mushroomed more

[@jeremysuggate7449]

My American go wild 450 will cut the same hole all the time with hornady blacks but the deer don’t bleed. Switched to a Barnes vortex and haven’t had one run yet

[@patrickmurray9409]

Depends on where I'd be living, the variety of critters there. Either will get the job done, still comes down to shot placement .

[@billjensen6216]

Roflmao. 350 legend is putting a 6 inch group in the size of a quarter. I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, or my brain just glitched. Just before shooting the watermelon with the 350 legend. Thank you, sir. I needed that laugh. Great videos

[@kylevanhorn9897]

I can tell you from personal experience, the 350 legend is extremely lethal on whitetails! I know quite a few people that use both the 350 legend and the 450 bushmaster I don’t think the killing power or trajectory is really noticeable between the two? Why I prefer the 350 legend is the cost of ammo, 450 bushmaster is almost twice the amount for a box of shells! Reloading straight wall cartridges is not my favorite thing, I’ve done it before, but generally, I purchase all my pistol ammunition and straight wall cartridge revolver/rifle ammunition.

[@h_in_oh]

What have we learned? If hunting concrete blocks, use 350 legend so you can take your trophy home. Forget the watermelons with either caliber.

[@billmcconnell1737]

450 is my choice. 23 deer 200 yards was farthest shot. Black box Hornady because that's what gun likes. Choose what works for you, shot placement is still more important than caliber

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Miss the ol targets ! But i can look em up !

[@richki.24]

Love me my 450BM bolt action ...

[@DocJustinT]

Some people like bolt guns, some like ARs... and just recently Bear Creek Arsenal released bolt action uppers (only in these two calibers, so far) that mate onto AR lowers.

[@loksmith9334]

Bear Creek Arsenal now has a bolt action AR upper that you can put on your mill spec lower. I would like to see a review on that 350 legend to see if it’s worth buying

[@chrisowen5497]

Great comparison video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@MattWaller04]

Who Tee Who, you know what I like 😂 how many times have I commented requesting 450 videos 😂😂😂

[@jesusisalive3227]

That 450 sub load is pretty impressive really.

[@samivey8416]

The trouble I've seen with.350 legend is some bullets don't open. The white box Winchester lead tip acts like a full metal jacket. The bushmaster opens up great

[@Okie-BME]

I hunt in heavy timber, usually

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

The winner for me would be 400 Legend if it had more available ammo options. But you already know that I ordered a 360 Buckhammer because I wanted a cool lever gun

[@Mohagrus]

you should have gotten the 460 S&W big horn armory lever gun most powerful strightwall cartridge you can shoot 2900 FPS out of the 22" barrel

[@Bearsdenadventurues]

awesome video if i were planning a long range hunt i wouldn't chose ither of these. I just have better choices in the safe . and i have and love the performance i get from both in the woods but if i had a nice deer show himself at 300 yards i sure wouldn't feel under powered with ither one remember the old 45 lc has many followers in the deer woods and at 300 yards these 2 guys have as much power as 357 mag has at the muzzle and surly no one here believe a deer would live thru a 45 lc at point blank range. its all placement and both these are capable of better then 3 in groups at 300 yards so the most deadly gun is the one you have mastered at the bench for that reason i would recommend the 350 most anyone could take a days' worth of 350 recoil and i have found the ammo is much much cheaper for practicing also. so i think folks in general would shoot more with the 350.

[@Jay78801]

I have both but most of my shots are under 150 yards. Both kill deer just fine! the 350 has less recoil if recoil is a problem for the shooter

[@Ken-s7c]

350 legend is notorious for not meeting the volacity threshold for expansion ive only every had good results with barnes bullets and wont even hunt with my 350 anymore, never had a 450 bushmaster here in Az. You typically need something with more range

[@InTheYear]

🇺🇸👍🇺🇸💪🇺🇸 Awesome Data sheets on these cartridges!

[@whodoyouthinkiam210]

Got the 350L for the ammo prices, man before the pandemic them boollets were cheapcheap! 180gr federal is what my ar likes!

[@steveburlingame1935]

I like the 450bushmaster im also interested in the 41 great lakes for shots to 400yards

[@anthonyjbargeman5280]

Well Hoo Tee, as you know I'm a bit old school. So I'd have to go with the 450. The lords caliber. 45

[@DrMike-64]

Videos for .450BM pretty impressive… was thinking a Tikka in .350 legend but guess I’m back to square one

[@jesusisalive3227]

450B all the way 300gr sst @ 2120fps. 20" bushmaster upper. Took my moose at 260 yards. No follow up shot needed. Pass through shot. Went 5 steps and tipped over dead.

[@davidteague5461]

I like bolt guns better too . But I really like leaver action better .

[@benjaminbradley3009]

350 legend for me, slightly less recoil makes for slightly faster follow up shots. And ammo is cheaper than the 450BM.

[@chrishelms1967]

Two legit success stories of the new rounds.....unlike 30 supercarry or 224 Valkyrie

[@ehp1998]

I have used both… I prefer the 350. It’s my go to gun anymore.

[@garycox9711]

Few yrs ago Gave My Daughter in-law A New Sav Axs 2 350 legend. Fed Bult 18 In Bl Ac Triger She's 105 lb Girl 10 Shots. 7 Neck Shots 3 Shots ♥ + Lungs Awesome out 225 yds Here Along Mo. OZ Along Mo+Arks Line

[@toddhull7496]

How about doing a comparison between 350 & 30-30

[@scottwinkle5503]

I just looked up the load data for 450 Bushmaster and 45/70 using lever action loads and the 45/70 consistently out performers the 450 by 200 to 300 fps at each bullet weight. Unfortunately you will pay for that extra performance with some heavier recoil.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yeah but unless you get a single shot a 4570 will cost you over double price of a 450bm

[@johnbringold3305]

Like tje 450 so far got 3 deer never took a step between 30 yards and 251 yards got 2 heart shots with 350 neither went 50 yards but not a drop of blood

[@poppysquatch]

Shot a nice 9 point last month at 70 yards, with the 350L and Barnes TSX. Didn’t go 20! Despite WHOTEE saying 350L can’t kill deer.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Don’t want to stand in front of either one of those!

[@deniscullis8518]

Great vids xden

[@lrlapua8035]

450 all the way.......Power through the size of hole it leaves....

[@lanehammer]

450 in a 1 in 24 x 18 Bushmaster upper is pleasant and surprisingly flat shooting..

[@xforce708]

I have both. You know though, years ago my processor said to me “ you’re one of the few that come in here that kill deer clean without using a cannon and you get more meat for it. “ Back then I was shooting a 270 Win that I still use from time to time. But I don’t take shoulder shots. I shoot em with a gun just like a bow normally broadside and behind shoulder. So the answer is in you who’s asking WTW, do you like a clean kill that preserves as much meat as possible, or are you the hunter that likes to pound them to the ground with a high shoulder shots?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

A lot of variables there. In my video 2 days ago I took 2 deer. One with high shoulder shot and one with a heart shot. But I was using 300 blk which caused very minimal meat damage in both.

[@howarddeheer8295]

450 BM . I been hearing a lot of bad about 350. I figured bad shot pasement maybe. What do you think

[@PassivePortfolios]

The 350 Legend outsells all the other cartridges and rifles combined in Ohio.

[@robertwies6806]

I don't know which is more fun; water jugs or concrete blocks. Either way 450 wins.

[@rickywilson2983]

I have a 350 Legend. What kind of muzzle brake do you have on your AR 350

[@WHOTEEWHO]

One that came on it. Not sure. Was a cmmg

[@timlw1967]

Bear Creek Arsenal has come out with a bolt action AR in 350 and 450 !

[@boxerjoe1314]

Honestly, I'd be more excited about a single shot true AR, with the gas eating the recoil, then a bolt action AR. I guess some people enjoy the modularity though.

[@tac_r_usoutdoors8984]

180gr vs 300....maybe the 245 gr 450bm would be a closer matchup. That 300gr 450bm in my Mossberg Patriot 16", is worse than a 3" 12ga magnum slug on the old shoulder. Within 100 yds that heavy for caliber 450bm would be nasty bear medicine.

[@smiley454jmw]

What does a 7mm rem mag or 30-06 do to a watermelon? Just wondering if the bullet is moving so fast it just leaves a hole or is it same results no more watermelon

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Would do the same

[@jmc041071]

I see more negative reviews of the 350 than good ones. So, and this is just me, but I wouldn't choose the 350.

[@nathankleber9150]

That 350 legend case looks distorted and uneven. It's almost like you can see where the brass stretched to accept the projectile when it was pressed in.

[@whodoyouthinkiam210]

That's how some lopk when are loaded when using a .357 vs .355

[@mikereimus8879]

Kinda waiting on the 41 Great Lakes suppose to be out this year

[@steventanner1428]

I am waiting patiently to split the difference with the 400 legend.

[@anthonyjbargeman5280]

The cinder blocks tells me I'm right

[@tjsochacki6164]

I have a question. Why don’t you ever do 100 yard water jug or jell testing! Just asking.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I do sometimes

[@mike-xh3yh]

That 260 grain 450 probably has 10 grains of weight in green plastic or more.

[@KeithZimmerman-l6z]

Have you done a video of the 400 legend?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

No

[@KeithZimmerman-l6z]

@@WHOTEEWHO could do the 400 and the 360 buckhammer compared to each other. The new deer rounds.

[@161Sheriff]

375 Ruger!!!!😇

[@michaelbutterworth2025]

Both cool but I’ll stick with my 360 Buck Hammer

[@dennistennyson4540]

Men, I believe instead of using clay y'all better use the ballistic gel because the clay is blown away, no recovery.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Gel is terribly expensive

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

As fans can we start a fund to rent Whooty a sound meter so he can tell us about the effect of shushers? There are a bunch of deaf old guys who could have used that info 30 years ago.

[@wayneblair288]

I would take the 450 Bushmaster

[@VilledaFamily]

450 bushmaster took a nice 8 point thanksgiving day, took a frontal shot only ran 30 yards

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome

[@KE458S]

Do a 350 legend vs 400 legend or 400 legend vs 450 bm. Or compare all 3

[@davew8694]

Obviously the 400 legend is best.

[@trvlace]

The 450 is fun. But the BEOwulf is more fun! Kaboom 💥

[@mattpeacock5208]

Before any data comes out, I'm gonna say go with the skinnier one. I may be wrong, we'll see.

[@robbiesmith9786]

I stick with my 7mm rem mag

[@WHOTEEWHO]

💪💪

[@jerrymulholland1842]

450 kicks less than 308 drops deer faster than 350 great luck here with hornady ftx