36,000 pound pulling power with Badland winch!

[@SubieRow]

My 12k winch is an amazing tool.. best hf purchase, period.

[@roadhandviking2741]

I've worked as an industrial rigger fir a large portion of my life, a couple pieces of advice for ya. Do as you like of course. 1) name brand Crosby shackles are the industry standard for heave rigging and lifting. They are strenously tested for quality control. 2) never rig a shackle in a shackle. Use another choker to make a connection point. 3) use quality cable or nylon chokers not chain. Those little things will keep you safe and getting the job done !

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks for watching and it's great to hear from a professional rigger. I checked out those Crosby shackles and indeed they are quite nice! Thanks for for the great pointers they are well appreciated.

[@roadhandviking2741]

@@LetsDoThis321 thank you sir

[@528Circle]

Great tips! I’m only just learning about this and mostly just getting my Jeep out of a jam, so nothing remotely close to this kind of work, but the principles still apply on what not to do.

[@roadhandviking2741]

@@528Circle yes sir. Add a snatchblock and run the hook back to your jeeps frame will double your pulling power but cut it's speed in half

[@useryggfdcc]

Science at work. This is the stuff they should show the kids.

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks for watching and giving the comment. For sure, it's amazing how complex (and dangerous) it can be just to pull something over a bit. For example I had to consider every chain wrap around the log, each wrap gave the chain 10k pounds of strength.

[@robweberphoto]

Check out Destin's Snatch Block video on Smarter Every Day, it's excellent

[@rbhe357]

The blue towel dragging in the dirt makes it look like the cable is stretching.

[@erwinvangrinsven9345]

Towelie finaly has a real job

[@LetsDoThis321]

Yeah, I need to fire towelie, I don't think towelie is as effective as a real "Winch Recovery Dampener" amzn.to/3t9Lf0j

[@pinkamenadianepie8609]

Ok I think I’m sold on that winch

[@LetsDoThis321]

I spent too long debating between various winches, it started to delay my project.... LoL. When the Harbor Freight winch went on sale I pulled the trigger and got it. I do like that they have a cable tensioner built in while most others do not. I've been quite happy with it for what I use it for. I plan to do some more testing with it in the coming weeks and will post the results here on my channel (stay tune and subscribe). Some tests I plan to do is recovering vehicle from embankment and pulling covert pipe out of the ground.

[@jvalentine8376]

You could burn your motor out winching for that long at a time , What can happen is the armature coils get so hot the solder connecting the wires to the commutator get so hot the solder throws out of the joints and the connections all fail . There is no warning unless the winch has a thermal overload cut out and I don't know any that does. Winch in short burst of maybe 15 or 20 seconds giving a rest in between bursts . Put your hand on the motor occasionally to get an idea of how hot it is getting but remember it's hotter inside than the outer cover and go from there . Putting containers across a drainage culvert is asking to be flooded one day , it might even be against local council laws .

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks for watching and providing the comments! I appreciate all the good points you bring up.

[@matt89447]

I agree, read manual. Let her cool down for a few minutes.

[@nbooker7504]

45 seconds is the duty cycle on this winch

[@bloxeeee1666]

YAS NOW YOU GET VEIWS! KEEP MAKING VIDEOS DUDE

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks! Will do!

[@ronfox5519]

Will your truck battery/alternator keep up while doing that much pulling at one time? Ive seen one of these being used. S ton of power, but killed the batt.

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks for watching and for the excellent question. For the pulling I did in the video my setup worked out ok, I did not notice any low battery conditions. I did keep the engine running the entire day. When winching it is important to pay particular attention to the battery used. You will want something with a large cold cranking amps (CCA), but more important for those doing long pulls is the batteries reserve capacity (RC). In my truck I have 2 Optima Yellowtop batteries hooked up in parallel combined CCA=1500 and RC=240. Next time I have to change out batteries in the truck I'm going to try out the Northstar brand I hear they are quite reliable. I would not recommend using a typical car battery with a 12k winch on a heavy load or continuous use. For the alternator my truck has the stock alternator which is rated at 105 amps, if it ever dies out on me this is an item I'd like to upgrade to a high output version.

[@dangerousfandango5943]

@@LetsDoThis321 northstar, oddessy, xs power, fullthrottle is my perfer brands.. optima isnt the same anymore. But it is still much better than a standard lead acid

[@adamr8628]

@@LetsDoThis321 I'd probably be a lot more concerned about the load on the electric motor than on the powerr supply

[@LetsDoThis321]

​ @Adam R Your right about that! With the 12k Badlands winch only having a 5% duty cycle it's easy to overheat the motor pulling a container just 20 feet!!! Manual states run time is 45 second when pulling a max load and then you need a 14 minute 15 second cool down. But when not pulling max it's hard to know how long you can run. I use a infrared temp gun to monitor the motor casing temp when pulling this things around. I don't know what the max temp of the casing can reach without damaging the motor, but I've done a lot of pulling and kept it under 125 fahrenheit and it seems to be running fine.

[@adamr8628]

@@LetsDoThis321 Interesting, I'm not an expert, but sounds like you're monitoring it pretty well. I'm thinking about buying a larger Badlands winch in the future for a truck. Right now I just have a ZXR 2500 on my ATV. Its mostly to lift a snow blade so far, so its not working hard at all.

[@oas9235]

I have the same winch do u think it will be able to winch 40ft container with 15k IB total weight, please advise asap.

[@LetsDoThis321]

I'd only do it if I had a 3 to 1 rigging and keep it on the first wrap on the spool if its moving well then let it go on the the second wrap on the spool. The winch really wakes up with 2 to 1 and even more with a 3 to 1 rigging. Straight line pulls with this winch at least are underwhelming on extremally heavy loads. You will need 2 snatch blocks and some big shackles. You will need a very strong anker point too otherwise it will just drag your truck to the container. I have a lot of videos pulling a 40 foot high cube (empty) even those get tuff if they start digging in on uneven ground. Its slow and the winch gets hot fast, I found having a fan or some kind of blower fanning the winch motor helps a lot keeping the winch cool. Make sure to have a IR temp gun ($25 at Harbor Freight) to monitor motor temps, I would not let it go much past 130~135 degrees after that it heats up fast and you will see smoke! Please watch the videos below its the real deal, I don't hide the issue and mistakes I've made 🙂 Winching a 20,000+ Semi Truck Rig: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWi6aqB3bJh8fa8 40 foot container Full videos: The long pull: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fICZnmZqrNmbfpY Anker point: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2rCmImDbJ2AopI Flying winch cable: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHbWpGBslNBjZpI Huge Shackle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apvXqWxqedtnrbc Smoking winch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2apaqqLnbSca6M Container Winching Shorts: Snap: kzbin.infoAlXktsIlI7s Smoking winch: kzbin.info9vIaov8zJlc Anker Point: kzbin.infotBftZLqyySc 3 to 1 rigging: kzbin.infoYhxZVJd21X0 Flying Cable: kzbin.info2CcLFg6hhYk Plowing: kzbin.info2SKMVRK0Lfo

[@johnscott2600]

The Anderson connectors work awesome but you loose roughly 3volts in that connection from my understanding

[@LetsDoThis321]

wow, that's a large voltage drop, I'll have to look into that.

[@hksjoshua]

I heard the music and I was outta there lol

[@LetsDoThis321]

For sure, I agree it's not for everyone. If I did it again I would have talked a bit about the items used. It is tuff to get good royalty free, license free, no cost background music though. Skip to 0:51 to get to winching no music just the wine of a winch.

[@billredding2000]

@@LetsDoThis321 "For sure, I agree it's not for everyone." True...but no matter WHAT you do, say (or even think!) nowadays, SOMEONE won't like it -- carry on anyway! Now the NEXT challenge for the winch is lift the containers up (one end at a time) so they can be put on blocks (to get them off the ground to help protect them front ground-moisture/rust). -- BR

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks for watching, and thanks for your support. I agree with you on that: "SOMEONE won't like it"!... On the later note... That could be a challenge lifting a container off the ground, but I don't want to try it on these loaded containers, nor do I want to unload them right now lol. I will be getting a 3rd 40 foot high cube container later this year probably during the summer. I can give it a try and see if there are some simple methods to get it off the ground and onto railroad ties with a winch.

[@billredding2000]

@@LetsDoThis321 I didn't know they were loaded containers...as for sure, they're plenty heavy EMPTY! Perhaps you could sue a "house jack" to lift up one end at a time, place blocks under it, then lift the other end -- having an airspace under the containers would (hopefully) keep them dry and so, less likely to rust. At least that's what *I* would do: Protect them (and my $$$$ investment, and your containers look to be new/excellent shape. You owe to yourself to keep them that way. ;-) As for other containers, especially if stacking them, for sure you'd need to rent a crane (and crew)! But the good news is you'd only need them once and so pay/cry once. BTW, back in the RVN (during the "war" there) the "base camp commandos" often used these shipping containers ("Conex") to make bunkers out of: Layers of sandbags all around/on top, and maybe some "PSP" (aka: "Marston Mat") for extra protection. Pretty solid! Of course, "we" don't need bunkers today in America...or do we (given the way the country is headed)? ;-) Good luck, -- BR

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

Change of direction with a 3 to 1

[@LetsDoThis321]

its a 3 to 1 pull on the container, I have an extra pully on the log anchor point sticking out of the ground so I can pull from the opposite direction, so technically the log in the ground is experiencing at 4 to 1.

[@benkanobe7500]

Could you sketch your snatch block arrangement and show a picture? I think you had three lines in tension and thus the 36,000 pounds??

[@LetsDoThis321]

Yes, I can sketch something up. I had originally did sketch but it made it to the recycle bin before I had a chance to get a picture of it. But yeah, there are 3 tension lines at the connection point of the container which can all peak out at 12,000 pounds each making for 36,000 pounds, that is only for the first layer of cable on the winch. Second layer is 9550 pounds, and third layer is 8000 pounds pull from the winch.

[@pog4life89]

For each snatch block used you have to subtract 10% of your overall pull. Great video!

[@LetsDoThis321]

@@pog4life89 Good to know! This was my first ever pull. When I had initially researched it I came across a lot of images and diagrams of 3 to 1 reduction but they never noted the loss, it makes sense though. Again thanks for the info!

[@Stihl4life]

Nice. Were did you get the long jumpers from?

[@LetsDoThis321]

This is the 25 foot 2 awg cable I bought off Amazon amzn.to/3kTpyNL I removed the alligator clips from the ends and soldered on these quick connect plugs amzn.to/3oEllzx (I will be posting a video on this in the coming weeks)

[@stanroberts4820]

An empty 20 ft conex weighs approximately 4,980 pounds. With the snatch block set up of 36,000 pounds your power to load ratio is better than 7:1 . Without the snatch blocks it is better than 2:1 ratio. But it was not a bad video.

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks so much for watching the video! And thank you for the comments. Yes, for the 20 foot container it was empty an just delivered I used a 2:1 ratio with a single snatch block it was a easy pull, I was only worried about it falling into the ditch as it crossed gap. The 40 foot High Cube was a bit more of a monster it is fully loaded floor to ceiling in the back half and the front half has a non operational car in it. I decided to give it a go loaded before a spent a full day unloading it. My estimated loaded weight of the 40 foot was in the 20 to 25,000 pound range. I was really concerned of the breakout force since the container was sitting there for 10 years. Another thing I had to consider is the winch only gives rated power for the first wrap @12,000, second wrap is 9517 lbs and third wrap is 7885 lb pounds pull.

[@stanroberts4820]

@@LetsDoThis321 that puts it in a better perspective. Winch did a great job!

[@als484]

What did you use for an anchor on your truck I did a similar pull with a tree a stuck forklift and had to rear anchor my truck from bumper to a broken dozer to stop it from getting in the way

[@LetsDoThis321]

@@als484 For the heavy pull most the load was on the log anchor point that had the two snatch blocks chained to it. That log anchor point could reach near 48,000lbs (less the friction loss). My truck with the winch would only see max 12,000lbs even with the 3:1 snatch block setup to the container. The first pull on the loaded 40 foot container I tied the the truck to a 8 foot 12 inch diameter log I had buried 4 feet under with a chain rapped around it, it did not seem to put much stress on that buried tie point while I was winching. I have a small backhoe tractor so that took 15 minutes to burry that log. For the 2nd pull in the video with the 20 foot container I used no anchor point my truck weighs in at near 8000lbs did not even move an inch.

[@Imwright720]

ThoUgh you were trying to pull the stump.

[@LetsDoThis321]

Now that you say that, your right! the thumbnail makes it look like I'm trying to pull out a stump.

[@johnson7454]

Wtf them towels gonna do? They have no weight

[@LetsDoThis321]

Thanks for watching, Right... lol, they are pretty light weight not much to very little for a dampener.