Harbor Freight Badland winch upgrade you must do!!!

[@rickaccurso]

I have the same winch from Harbor Fright, I bought a 100' synthetic rope off Amazon for less than $100 and used a bolt and washer where the set screw goes. Has worked great every time I needed it.

[@thedocisin3204]

Same here, bolt and washer. That's why the rope ends in a loop. I also tied a piece of white cloth on the rope as a marker at 10 wraps on the drum.

[@johnmorton7577]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@MichaelGilmet]

Got a link to what you bought?

[@stephenpoe2037]

I was thinking the same ! With Stainless !

[@Hedgehodge-]

@@MichaelGilmet none will ever know :( whyyyyyyyyyy not include what you bought /sigh

[@tomasperalta3961]

Awesome video! As a crane operator, I have to deal with winch drum minimum wraps, I’m so glad to see you spreading good information!! 🍻

[@woody4u247]

Great video, when feeding the line thru the drum & set screw. Only feed the line thru till it's flush with the drum, by leaving it stick out the inch you showed, it gets in the way of the line spooling smoothly & when the upper layer is under tension, can cut into the line itself, you want it to spool smoothly over each lower wrap. Also be sure to run your bare hand over the drum switching between steel cable & synthetic.. the cable can create burrs & edges that'll cut the synthetic.. if it's not really smooth, smooth the drum surface all the way around & full width before installing synthetic. Same goes for snatchblocks.. don't just use your old one you used with a steel cable.. it needs to be totally smooth, even minor stuff is magnified under load in its abrasion/cutting.

[@nextweeksadventure]

Nice tips! Lucky mine was pretty new with only a few runs on it when I made the switch. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!

[@stateroute74ranchomirage80]

brand names for uhmwpe. The uhmwpe is an ultra high molecular weight polyethylene. The individual fibers are very thin but incredibly long and straight and provide uh m w p e with its strength. Lots of different rope makers EG Samsung buy the fibers from DSM who license d y n e e m a, and then spend them into a lovely braid which we know amsteel blue. Amsteel blue is made from a specific type of fiber called sk75. There are other grades of d y n e e m a too, such as sk78 as used in Samsung's as78 hallow braid. According to the information I have dyneema and Spectre are both brand names for whmwpe, ultra high molecular weight polyethylene.😢

[@DiscoveringOutdoors]

I believe 3 full wraps is plenty, up here in Canada the minimum number of Dill wraps on a lifting winch drum is 2.

[@paulhillar1833]

Just installed my new Harbor Freight winch and it's great! Had to replace my old WENCH a few years ago, she was useless! I got a new WENCH and this one is a keeper, she buys me guns, and when I get my quarry the winch helps me guttem'!!

[@wildpigremovalinc.executio8028]

Nice video. I swapped my wire cable out years ago with Amsteel synthetic rope. First, I took my winch apart because I suspected the primary gears didn't have enough grease. I have 5 winches and 4 of 5 needed grease from the factory. I wrapped the winch drum with silicone tape to protect the synthetic rope from heat generated from the gears and motor during use. Now synthetic ropes have a protective shield. You could use 550 cord and attach the rope end loop to the anchor set screw. As you suggested, never unwind the winch line beyond the last row. The 550 line would be as good as using the set screw with reduced rope strands. Have a nice day.

[@michaelexline5382]

I did that kind of upgrade year ago (long before harbor freight offered a rope). I used rollers until the rope got caught between top roller and side roller under load. Had to cut the rope. I highly recommend not using the rollers.

[@ltsky311]

according to most engineering standards, 3 wraps, 3 threads etc. is enough for rated mechanical loading.

[@ronnietrujillo4204]

Might I recommend adding the synthetic rope fairlead as well. I also seen a few people mention smoothing out the drum ensuring there are no burs on the drum that will cut the rope under tension. I would also recommend replacing your hook with a soft shackle additionally changing out any snatch blocks you've used against steel cable as it can also develop burs that will cut the rope.

[@nextweeksadventure]

@@ronnietrujillo4204 I've made several changes since doing this video to protect the rope. Except the fairlead.

[@mateodiego3481]

We have always been thankful for the clearance table\section of Harbor Freight. I liken it to hunting. You never know what you are going to get. Sometimes you get those awesome finds.

[@johnspartan3405]

Saw one of these in the clearance/ return corner and someone had slapped a 30 dollar sticker from another item on there. Was tempted to try it and play dumb but my integrity kicked in.

[@946towguy2]

Run the line around the drum and through the eye. Pull the loop tight, creating a choker which protects you if you run the line all the way out. Replace set screw with bolt and washer.

[@mrpolite9123]

Thanks for making this review. I was on the fence on this winch but this winch and swapping the cable out, but this sold me on it. I believe I got to see that beast of a Cherokee at the Stl Transportation meet. I was the White Defender 90 owner.

[@nextweeksadventure]

@@mrpolite9123 Hands down HF winch is the best for the average adventure seekers. No need to spend a ton on something that probably won't get used but a handful of times. Warning.... HF no longer sells the used/returned ropes. I think it has something to due with insurance reasons. Yes I was at the Museum of Transportation meet up.

[@SalvoDan]

I replaced the rope on my Adventure Kings Domin8r Xtreme (just part of regular maintenance) with a MaxTrax MXTSWR Static Winch Rope using a different solution. The Kings drum only has a screw in the side flange and the rope has a flattened ferrule with a hole drilled in it. The MXTSWR has an eye at each end. I chopped the eye off (like what you did) and used a Plasma Lock to fasten it to the face of the drum. When it kept slipping on install, I replaced it with a Bubba Rope “The Grabber” which worked perfectly. This means that I won’t be able to reuse the MXTSWR as a 30m static extension, but it was the only way I was able to mount it to the drum. When I upgrade my Winch to a Warn VR EVO, I will invest in another MXTSWR and keep it intact.

[@mikerobinson8734]

I went the other way around and ditched the synthetic rope. I use my winch a lot every year for removing logs and trees and running through snatch blocks, the synthetic harbor fright rope will Frey and break in no time, mine didn’t last a year before breaking, I swapped out for a steal cable and all is good!

[@rodbagley1686]

I have the older Harbor Fright 12000 lb winch before Badlands took over. I also put on a rope only mine is 8000 capacity. I have it mounted on an old quadrunner. Still use the rollers on the front. Has worked good for all the years I have used it. Surprisingly I haven't pulled my quadrunner apart with everything I have put it through.

[@JohnLewis-ij1gp]

You can change out your metal rollers for polyurethane on your fairlead

[@adamcouch4226]

Just bought the new zxr 12000 an a new badland synthetic rope. The new winch has a threaded hole to the right side in the drum cause the rope comes with 2 different sizes an a the mount for the the rope to loop onto. No more cutting them down an working harder. Deffiantly remove the spring loaded guide arm. It will destroy your controle box. Good luck an welcome to 2023 Badland upgrade 👍 😀

[@jaredroberson8049]

Any links to videos with installation like this??

[@kidsphonenh]

I work a lot with drums and heavy lifting and we usually recommend A minimum of 3 wraps around the drum

[@rudetoy8264]

Watching swapping out to synth cable and see everyone comments tells me why KZbin is great for sharing (and seeing) great ideas

[@benkanobe7500]

Thanks! I like how much it reduces the weight as mine is on a receiver hitch so I can move it from front to back.

[@lunafab4059]

Is there a massive difference? I had to run 1" spacers after I got my winch and mount installed.

[@benkanobe7500]

@@lunafab4059 Are you asking about the weight of metal winch cable compared to synthetic winch cable? If so, there is literally a massive difference.

[@gibsonbrigh]

Good news. I got the older badlands and a brand new one still in the box. I do want to swap to rope. I work with rope all the time doing tree work. Some people won't believe that rope has the same strength. Or even more. But it depends on the situation you can get in. I seen many people mess up their steel cables just by trying to rewind them back in when under a load. They really tear up that steel cable.

[@joetroutt7425]

I have personally seen a set screw let loose of a steel cable with a 2000lb burial vault on it and the cable just spins right off the spool no matter how many revolutions were on it. That set screw does have a function in holding the cable in place under a load.

[@PeteHernandez-f9e]

I use a soft shackle to attach the end to whatever I attach the end to. I stay away from the metal hooks.

[@Jerry-ko9pi]

I didn't hear anything about checking the drum and other parts that the steel cable rubbed against for burrs. Use sand paper or file to get rid of any burr that could cut the rope.

[@jonstarnes7905]

He's also thinking that a steel roller fairlead is okay to keep on there and that hand tension is enough to tension a rope.

[@nextweeksadventure]

It is ok to run a roller fairlead and I only hand tensioned the rope to save time on video. I took it out after and tied off to a tree on a hill and set it afterward.

[@jonstarnes7905]

@@nextweeksadventure okay and ideal are two different things. And he's right about the drum. You should have sanded it first. It's all well and good in that you can do whatever you want. But you may want to mention stuff like this when making instructional videos.

[@aaronerickson8878]

Maybe you should make your own videos and show us all how it's done genius ​@@jonstarnes7905

[@vacayooper4728]

Im ordering a yankum rope for my winch. Costs more but very high quality.

[@bradha562]

My Badlands synthetic rope came with an anchor and 2 different length screws to attach the rope to the drum. No need to hack up a brand new synth rope.

[@jerryhorn3621]

Not really a comment but a question. Do NOT go off "roading"! but do had a 16 steel deck car trailer w/beaver tail. Have always wanted to add a winch to it. Most of what I have hauled is just driven on. Occasionally do have to push one on (usually have enough people to accomplish this). So the question is why the "rope style vs cable style. Yes I realize both materials are actually "rope". What are the benefits/disadvantages?

[@nextweeksadventure]

I prefer the "rope" because I'm clumsy and find working with a loose rope easier to handle. Also if your about to do a deep water crossing that you know could end badly you can unwind a bunch of rope and tuck it under a wiper blade or someplace easy to get to fast without worry of destroying your rig with a cable. It's mostly a personal preference.

[@stateroute74ranchomirage80]

Dyneema and Spectra are both brand names for whm wpe ultra high molecular weight polyethylene. The individual fibers are very thin but incredibly long and straight in this provides whm wpe with a strength. Lots of different roommakers Samsung by fibers from DSM who license d y n e e m a, and then spin them into a lovely braids called amsteel blue. I am still blue is made from a specific type of fiber called sk75. There are other grades of the dyneema too, such as sk78 is used in Samsung's as 78 halo braid. D y n e e m a n Spectra are both brand names for w h m w p e ultra high molecular weight polyethylene. Lifespan is 5 years so as your vehicle sits there and not being used for 5 years not towing then you just took a risk and snapping the whole mix.

[@shawncell1247]

i just used a bolt with washer , did not cut it at all . then just put a load on it ,it will shrink down on its own .no mod, just use a bolt where set screw was .

[@trobb32]

Exactly….work smarter not harder

[@eze8024]

I used and recommended a Bubba rope grabber for the synthetic line. And of course a hawse fairlead.

[@ScoutPL]

the heat shrink is not bad. you should melt the end of the synthetic rope first.

[@lakehand]

I just used a bolt and washer in allen hole to use rope. i think it was from a Toyota fender.

[@inmyopinion6836]

ALL you have to do is replace the Allen screw with a bolt and washer then stick it through the loop and tighten it down. Done! ! !

[@shanemcgonnell2689]

I have that same front bumper. What is that LED light bar that looks to fit the top light bracket? Thanks

[@nextweeksadventure]

Lumitek 20" 126w cree led light bar flood/spot combo from amazon. You will need to order a wiring kit it doesn't come with one.

[@timjchick]

To attach a synthetic line to a winch drum a winch line grabber strap like from Bubba Rope should be used. It keeps several wraps on the drum and prevents the winch line from being pulled out too far.

[@MichaelGilmet]

Got a link?

[@timjchick]

@@MichaelGilmet kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3_TnoeEjJWZmLM

[@bellyacres7846]

search on google has a few results kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3_TnoeEjJWZmLM so far this yt looks good - better :)

[@agentmuzz]

Replace the set screw with a bolt/washer of the same threat through the eye on the synthetic rope. No need to cut anything.

[@leonhart2452]

Take that set screw to a hardware store and buy a longer bolt the same thread size and pitch with a rounded allen screw. The head should look like a carraige head bolt head. Now thread this new screw through the loop on the new rope and into the winch drum.

[@bkind2182]

Take full advantage of the increased safety of the synthetic rope and lose the metal hook. Use soft shackles 😊...

[@nextweeksadventure]

I've had a few people tell me this. I've never really considered it. Thanks for the advice!! Will definitely be looking into this .

[@mitchelcreegan9636]

Synthetic schakles have their place as does a metal hook. Hard to hard, soft to soft surfaces

[@bkind2182]

@@mitchelcreegan9636 Just in case, when or if things break I'd prefer to have soft things attached😊...

[@mitchelcreegan9636]

Soft to soft hard to hard.

[@bkind2182]

@@mitchelcreegan9636 Wiith new products and technology also comes the ability to improve safety....

[@jameshallahan4376]

What about making holes bigger to feed rope through ? Chinese metal is soft, use one of those conical shaped drill bits

[@nextweeksadventure]

@@jameshallahan4376 Honestly it's held up this long I'm not worried about any changes to it.

[@natcalverley4344]

Slide it through after you cut it and tie half hitch jam knot on the other side and pull it tight then put the set screw in . Forget the heat the heat shrink. You will never pull the half hitch through the drum hole.

[@davedecamp6730]

Try the soft shackle on the end of the new rope it better than the metal hook

[@nextweeksadventure]

I've had a ton of people recommend this to me and I'm looking into it. Thanks!

[@blackjackal2156]

Thanks for the tips. I use a BL 2500 for my atv plow. Hate the cable,it rusts out, it pinches and frays itself and I constantly have to reel out and reset it. Rope doesn't have the same issues, I've just never reset a drum cable, so I haven't replaced it. I see ropes in discount all the time, so now I'm going to look into it more

[@m9ovich785]

I built a dedicated Lift Winch for My ATV Plow back in 2003. It only has 6' of 2" wide Ratchet Strap Material. And it picks the Plow frame up dead vertical , and a Limit switch to stop the Winch before it bottoms out on the Frames I can use the Winches, 1500 Plow or the 4000 regular on either end at the 2003 Polaris 700 twin . Custom modified Polaris 1 1/4 Receivers. The Rear 1 1/4 Receiver holds the Hydraulic pump for the Plow Angle. With a Load of Junk in the ATV Box and a big deep Cycle on the front Rack, Chains on all four, And a suspension Lock for the Back. That thing is a Plowing best HAHAHAAH it is Heavy ...+ My 230 Lbs Then I have to Use the Kioti to move the Piles.... Mike M Central Wis.

[@AddictedToJeepsCom]

Excellent video! I'm upgrading my 12K HF winch with the same synthetic line this week. I'll definitely give your channel a mention during my demo (I just subscribed). As for the roller fairlead - I'm going to keep using mine. Many off-road SMEs have run these same fairleads with synthetic lines for years. We just need to make sure the rollers are smooth and roll freely. Think about it: these rollers will produce much less friction and wear on the line than a typical solid synthetic fairlead. The only downside to not switching is the weight savings between the roller version and the solid version. Keep up the great content!

[@poker8193]

Awesome I used mine twice this weekevd and the cable sucks I’m doing this next weekevd so here seeing how much will fit. Thanjs

[@timg912]

I have the same set-up exactly. I made a metal “J” hook from a chain link that I put into the hole and held with the set screw. I pushed it in far enough so the synthetic rope can’t come off. I wish I knew of the returned rope trick!🤪

[@dkhill27]

Ive wanted to upgrade my steel cable but i do alot of off road on rocks and mud. I think the synthetic winch line will rub onna rock and tear it up

[@biggs8729]

Rollers have a bigger bend radius and they roll. The two biggest reasons for damaging winch rope is from chafing and bending it to hard. Rollers solve both these problems. The only reason they say to change to an aluminum haus is because if you pull something directly below the front of the winch and way off to the side, (something that happens, well, never), you can pinch the rope between the two rollers. The rollers are better, don't change it. Thanks for sharing.

[@alvinmitchell6799]

Adding a rope that will fit between the corners of the rollers will destroy synthetic ropes before you know it.

[@bravowhiskey4684]

WRONG. Rollers destroy synthetic ropes easily. They pinch at the corners, and get burrs easily from being bashed into things or used with wire ropes. I’ve had them seize up, break pins and fall out, and bend. Roller fairleads are trash. I went to an old cast iron Warn one for my wire ropes. Use Delrin or Aluminum for synthetic ropes.

[@ZombieKillerRex]

Rollers, and their scratches, wreck ropes. Very nice video, worth subscribing.

[@trobb32]

Why not just use a bolt and a big washer versus compromising the integrity of the rope?

[@nextweeksadventure]

That part of the rope is not to be used under load. Set screw or bolt won't matter both would fail. You should never run a winch rope or cable out the the very end. It should always have at least 1 full set on the drum. Also a bolt,nut and washer could rub on the rest of the rope possibly cutting it. This way has worked with no issues since doing it.

[@childishdreams]

If you look closely you can see a hole with threads. You put the loop there and use a washer and screw to hold the rope

[@jacobkelly266]

Why not just get a bolt the same thread pitch as the set screw and put a washer on it and bolt through the loop provided.

[@scottbobcat8450]

If you would use a button head bolt and a washer all you have to do is simply screw through the hole in the Rope into the drum and it would be attached simple

[@brett9382]

Imo synthetic is way better. I mean sure you'll have to replace it every few years but the main thing is that it's safer. Switch to all synthetic rope and shackles and that's way less weight coming towards the driver's seat than all metal in the event of a failure. If you add on a weighted recovery blanket it's really relatively safe.

[@wrightcycleworks]

You should always upgrade to a Hawse fairlead or poly rollers with a synthetic rope. Good job showing what needs done.

[@jordanalexander615]

I'd have to keep the cable. My luck I would cut it on the first pull. Cable would definitely last longer when pulling out things with edges. Then again I use them for pulling other things out not myself.

[@khwamtay6459]

My rope came with a piece to mount it to the side of the drum. I added the 12000 lb rooe to a badlands 9000lb winch

[@Clydesdale2045]

Maybe someone already mentioned this would it not have been easier to drill bigger holes in the drum?

[@chrisgillingham9611]

My winch does not have the hole in the drum. It has a screw on the side plate of the drum where the wire rope had an eyelet the went on it. The Badlands synthetic rope came with 2 keeper deals and screws. Not sure if they are for different styles of winches but yeah.

[@808chevykev]

314 in the house! I have that same winch and it's a powerhouse!

[@t.l.robinson2162]

The roller fairlead will not hurt your synthetic rope.

[@nextweeksadventure]

Thank You!! I still run mine and it hasn't done anything yet. Some say otherwise but oh well. Still going strong.

[@227lazer]

Drums also have side screw spot that can be used by crimping a wiring eyelet on the rope. That's how I did mine after cutting off that fat 8 inch section

[@t1mhphi413]

Your saving money tip is to find a store with a returned one? What are the odds of that? I always check the harbor freight returns and have never seen any recovery gear marked down.

[@nextweeksadventure]

They stopped selling the used rope a while ago due to liability issues.

[@timm3466]

Good explain on the upgrade. I will be doing the same very soon...However..I bought a brand new 3/8 85 ft synthetic rope rated for over 26000 # with forged hook and finished ends from Vevor online free ship..for $65..will the extra 5 ft spool up ? will see on my 12000 # H.F. winch thanks for the video.. Thanks Tim M

[@nextweeksadventure]

Not sure about the 5 extra ft. Mine is a little snug. But you can. Coil it up on something for sure.

[@dpeagles]

Looks like you could also use that to extend the length of you winch by keeping an extra one in your truck.

[@mrblackgabe]

Why not use a bolt to attach the eye the drum where the keeper pin was?

[@04JALD]

Great video. Did you find out if you needed to take off the bar that's connected to the springs on top made to keep the steel cable tight and now with rope, do you need that bar with the springs? Hope I asked it right

[@nextweeksadventure]

Thanks! I never removed the springs or the tension bar. I only replaced the rope. The rope does get a little tight against it but the whole thing fits with exception to the last 2or3 feet. I just clip it to my d-ring and let a little hang down.

[@04JALD]

@@nextweeksadventure very cool. Thank you. I have the same winch doing the same thing.

[@PaydayGabeBCNV]

Thanks for this brilliant idea 💡 👍. Now,, just gotta find a return. Lol. And the roller is a moot point to me. I'm guessing you saw that Brit dude doing all those winch techniques also👍. As you mentioned,, If the rollers aren't chewed up,, run it!

[@larrylenz7723]

The instructions how to make it work on other winches is on box! But the video is much clearer. The rope will get caught in between rollers at different angels and destroy rope that's why they say to change the old one's out.

[@darleneyax5863]

I would grind that setscrew flat before reinstalling it so it doesn't cut into the synthetic rope

[@nextweeksadventure]

Set screw is only to stop the rope from coming completely off drum if unrolled to far. You shouldn't be unrolling it to that point to winch.

[@courier11sec]

I dunno man. Seems like it would be a better idea to make the drum for the rope. Either a button head bolt and washer or ream and chamfer the holes to accept the rope if you really can't stand the idea of the bolt and washer.

[@dkat1108]

Wow damn nice jeep !

[@nextweeksadventure]

Thanks it's come a long way from when I got it as a stock rig.

[@milwaukeevibe]

Or you could have used the threaded hole on the side of the drum that is meant for the Synthetic rope

[@danielsmith5351]

I got the exact same rope under a different name on Amazon. 85 ft for less than 70 dollars delivered.

[@leonkane8240]

Most of the modern humans lack the simple self guidance & awareness to solve simple problems like this. There is advantage to keeping the rollers for the synthetic rope, providing it has no wear or damage from the steel cable that would damage or reduce the life of the synthetic rope. Rollers in good condition will extend the life of the synthetic rope. Of course the rollers are heavier than the alloy fairlead. So it comes down to choosing to either saving weight or making the rope last longer. I have heard that the rollers can pinch the rope & bind them up but I think this is unlikely.

[@s10stealth]

Why not run a bolt thru where the original cable went thru to mount the synthetic? 🤔 (cover bolt head with a piece of rubber to prevent damage to the synth)

[@johndrummond88]

You sir are a genius!! Thank you so much!!!! Great video and great step by step!!

[@Mike-fx4jn]

How has this setup been holding up for you , specifically the roller fairlesd with rope instead of cable . I prefer rollers but im paranoid it could pinch the rope / slide off the rollers into the corners on angled pulls

[@nextweeksadventure]

I've had no problems. If I ever do I won't hesitate to talk about it.

[@Mike-fx4jn]

Good to hear. My hawse style fairlead sits too far back in my bumper since it was made for rollers. I just ordered a roller fairlead from Bulldog winch to try out instead but some folks comment on potential for snags. Will find out for myself

[@nextweeksadventure]

@@Mike-fx4jn I've heard all about how I'm doing it wrong. I'm not going to say pinching or chafing will never happen, but it hasn't happened yet to me. My winch and rollers were new so they are clean from wire scratches when I switched to a rope which does help

[@walterlaser873]

What about heat from the drum? How do you help disapate the heat? I've always been under the impression that your line should be wound on the top and not the bottom

[@_AndromedaGalaxy_]

Depending on what youre doing it may not be an upgrade. For me ill stick with cable.

[@matthewetter5494]

Hi I was wondering what kind of bumper do you have and where did you get it thanks I enjoyed your video

[@nextweeksadventure]

Its an EAG bumper and I got it off amazon. It fit great and had no issues installing it. Yes it is a cheaper bumper than others but it was in my budget and I'd buy another one if I was building another rig. Thanks for watching hope my other videos may help with ideas on your build!

[@glendekoker3682]

Wranglestar used it got rope damage from one use? Said wire better?

[@robertbowling8393]

Very instructive, and kudos for making this video as a gentleman, and without the offensive, raw language used by many! Not being judgmental toward anyone, but it is refreshing to view videos such as yours. As for the content itself, I just bought a Badland winch at HF (the 3,500# model), and for now, I intend to stay with the wire rope. However, in the event that it ever becomes frayed, as they often do, I'll know how to go about it in the correct way. Thank you for sharing, and for doing so as a gentleman! It's MUCH APPRECIATED!! Blessings to you.

[@nextweeksadventure]

You're very welcome and Thank you for the compliments. I try to have fun and give out the information I know or come across while doing my projects. My goal is to give the perspective of what is involved with projects people may be considering doing themselves. Thanks again for the great compliments and watching the videos!!!

[@xfirehurican]

Great tip! Thanks 👍 What bumper are you using? Did you paint it?

[@nextweeksadventure]

Thanks! I've heard that HF no longer sells the returned ropes but it doesn't hurt to check. Bumper is a EAG and no it came already painted and is holding up pretty good.

[@xfirehurican]

@@nextweeksadventure appreciate the clue!

[@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550]

How is it for durability and and abrasion resistance? I understand it’s safer if it breaks.

[@nextweeksadventure]

In the end it is still a rope so it can get cut. I've had no issues with mine and just try to make sure I'm not dragging it across anything when in use. Still holding up very well.

[@brucea822]

Did you consider just opening up the hole in the drum to accept the larger size of the cable end?

[@nextweeksadventure]

I would rather trim the rope than drill out the drum. Just seemed easier and doesn't remove strength from drum.

[@brucea822]

@@nextweeksadventure hmmmmmm? Didn't seem like it would have been that much dia. Change to cause weakness. But hey. I wasn't there. 👍👍

[@MyLonewolf25]

Rope breaking? Not too horrible. Drum breaking? Absolutely fucked

[@TheMojojames]

Stopped by my local Harbour Freight to ask about this and was told that winches & winch line are not allowed to be sold at a discount as an open box item, per company policy. Not sure if that's completely true but I'll have to look for a better deal elsewhere.

[@nextweeksadventure]

That's weird🤔 mine was literally a rope on a shelf with a tag said returned marked down. I've also seen items recently same deal. I've never seen an actual winch this way so maybe that part is true. Hope you can find one or similar.🤞

[@raisingcaine5480]

What is the primary benefit to switching to rope vs steel cable?

[@nextweeksadventure]

Main reason I'm clumsy and find using rope easier to handle.

[@rsjodin]

Primarily safety, steel wire that snaps under tension could kill or mame you when it whips upon failure, not unlike a bullwhip !...Secondly rope has a higher tensile strength and will just fall to the ground if it snaps...as it instantly releases the energy a steel cable would be holding

[@georgekershner6626]

Can you tell me where to get the set screw? Size? A buddy was helping me and pulled it all way out, don't think they put one in. He was backing up to be my anchor but think he got little to fast, mine will wind in but won't mechanical wind out with the hand held control but I have a wireless controller I'm going to try and see if he broke it or controller got in mud

[@richarda996]

Tractor Supply Company. They also have test boards for different thread sizes.

[@Kyle-ev4fk]

Can you suggest the best cheapest and easiest way to upgrade my winch rope?

[@davenaples133]

I have a question, What brand and model is your front bumper? I am considering an upgrade and like the bumper/winch combination. I just recently purchased the Badland 12K winch from Harbor Freight. Thanks

[@nextweeksadventure]

It's a EAG bumper. Went on very easy and has held up very well. I'd absolutely buy another over a more expensive brand. Only thing I would or will be addressing is I got the one with round led lights and they aren't as bright as I want them to be.

[@davenaples133]

Thank you

[@stephenvarnedore6091]

What brand of winch bumper is that ? I have a two wheel drive XJ and a Badlands 12000 lb winch. I would like to get it mounted on Jeep. Thanks for the valuable info.

[@nextweeksadventure]

EAG I ordered it off amazon. No issue yet pretty solid unit. Went together super easy with great fitment.

[@tstrenuous10]

Spool it under some kind of load. It’s important.

[@shurlanddass2270]

Good night how I have that same badland 12000 winch on my vehicle but when using it stops and start back is that correct

[@garyswalley7381]

7 to 9 wraps ???

[@the_bencredible]

What brand is the synthetic cable? Not sure if trust Harbor Freight with a potential life or death situation. We go on pretty much only solo vehicle trips. I don’t want a “good enough” or “should be ok” setup when we’re alone in the middle of nowhere. I have a Warn 9.5cti on my Jeep and couldn’t fathom having to rely on Harbor Freight to get my family home.

[@nextweeksadventure]

Sorry bud it's Harbor Freight Apex rope. Safe recovery method knowledge will go a long way even if you have equipment thats "good enough"

[@the_bencredible]

@@nextweeksadventure oh I agree with you. And I’m sure there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that rope, but the little shred of doubt in the back of my mind is what will prevent me from buying it. Regardless, thanks for the informative video.

[@nextweeksadventure]

Glad to help. No worries I'm not pushing pruducts for any sales. Always trust yer gut on things. If it's not something your comfortable using find what is. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment!

[@MZ8UEZ]

Well it sure as hell ain't gonna nobody damn else after you told em the secret. Now everyone and there uncle will know how to install it properly and there will be no more returns... And no more deep discounts!

[@critterray6742]

Mine got water in the control box, sucked the hook in and blew the motor up. Never even got it off rd.

[@nextweeksadventure]

Oh no.. You able to get it replaced under warranty?

[@critterray6742]

@@nextweeksadventure literally just happened so I'm just starting to look into it. Contacted em, gotta wait for a response. Seems like the control box should be able to be rained on. But I'm new to winches...

[@scottnichols309]

I wood never put synthetic winch rope on my badland zxr winche I will always use cable because winch cable is way stronger than a synthetic winch rope

[@killerdubber]

Is that the EAG bumper? Looks like the one I just got.

[@nextweeksadventure]

Yes it is. Very happy with it too.

[@killerdubber]

@@nextweeksadventure That's good to hear. Can't wait to get it installed.

[@mikerotch51]

The side of the winch spool has a threaded hole for the bolt and washer so you DONT CUT YOUR ROPE

[@keithhogan6997]

Great vid 👍🏻 I'll be keeping an eye out for the rope now for my '79 J20 longbed. You mentioned an update. Did I miss it in your video playlist?

[@nextweeksadventure]

Not sure about mentioning update. I just rewatched this video to see. I can tell you I still love this swap. I'm extremely clumsy and switching to the rope is way easier to handle. One of many comments I've received is change out the new hook I put on (Apex Hook) with a soft shackle. Also get rid of the roller fairlead. I am considering a soft shackle instead of hook but for now still running the rollers. I still see a rope every once in a while, get returned. Hope you can get your hands on one for sure! Thanks for watching and taking time to comment!!

[@keithhogan6997]

@Next Week's Adventure Thank you for the reply 👍🏻 I probably got confused with your comment about swapping to the replacing the fairlead with an aluminum hawse style. I have been dragging my feet on getting the Apex, but I guess I will have to grab up some steel and attempt my 2nd ever welding project, a winch bumper with assorted off road worthy accouterments. Thanks again for the excellent vid and appropriate nudge. 😎👍