£36 Pre-Match Football Trading Strategy on Betfair Exchange

[@W4ndererBen]

Good stuff, more detailed explanation behind reason for opening the trade than in the Villa/Leeds video

[@nigelspencer2980]

Another good video following on from the previous one made for Aston Villa v Leeds. Good insight to how Caan deals with the situation keeping tabs on its progress until finally exiting for a profit.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Cheers Nige. More of the same for the future?

[@Win-xl7no]

Excellent as always Caan.. even better that my boys got the points..

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Winner winner chicken dinner ;)

[@ianmarsden8568]

Thanks for the walk-through, Caan. Interesting to see the thought processes and reaction to information.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

My pleasure!

[@geggs1]

Man Utd stuck with the diamond formation. Essentially trying to accommodate 4 of the 6 midfielders. Basically keeping more people happy. Ole should have played 4-3-3 that’s why the price instantly drifted, and rightful so.

[@master4eva]

Very good explanation it’s great to see, those types of bets are great for using big stakes in high profile games

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Of course they are! Not on every single one mind. Cheers for the vote of confidence... more like this?

[@master4eva]

@@CaanBerryProTrader yes more videos like this Caan, it’s really helpful for beginner traders like me. The champions league in play betting has been very good for value opportunities if you was watching the games.

[@strumbadstroller7350]

Excellenrst video Caan. I'm just musing as to whether it would be safer to wait to get team news before entering the trade as if a key player was rested, as often happens at the mo due to sheer volume of games, or injured, this may well cause the price to drift.

[@driscollmania]

Well presented video of the strategy and I liked seeing the reality of the trade going against you and how you reacted to it. Thanks.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Sure, seen last weeks? Went a bit better.

[@driscollmania]

@@CaanBerryProTrader Yeah I saw last week's and enjoyed that too.

[@paulwilkinson5656]

I've never tried to do this, gonna have a go, wish me look. Thanks as always caan.

[@siphamandlahlaba1103]

How did it go?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

How'd it go?

[@paulwilkinson5656]

@@CaanBerryProTrader Backed Real Madrid £240 in total @ 2.04 ave but the price drifted to 2.18, it did come back down below 2.0 so made a grand profit of £1.06

[@immy2492]

Great demonstration Caan!

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Always keen to respond to the comments from the audience

[@happytimes88]

Clear, concise and informative what else could you ask for?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Nothing hopefully! Although some seem to have a problem with it lol.

[@LEROIDUTENNISDETABLE]

Good luck for all

[@pgeezy2396]

Not a fan of trading on soccer ........but great video and I'm just contributing as a fan of yours in general !!!

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

More racing?

[@pgeezy2396]

@@CaanBerryProTrader look I'm only 1 person . But that is definitely where my personal interest lies. Thanks man

[@jonh1958]

Very informative, know a few people who do similar things pre-match then roll the profit into other trades. Nice to see the demonstration and hear your thought process.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Cool. Are these more useful than normal then, Jon?

[@jonh1958]

@@CaanBerryProTrader no more or less than normal, it's all educational. But nice to get some different ideas. Would appreciate more depth on the pre-match research if that's possible.

[@davepersich3035]

Hi Any pointers to why you picked that actual match. Is it the liquidity, a TV game, a big game, two evenly matched teams etc?

[@gavinsmith0905]

good video, I understand the concept of backing a favourite that you think is over-priced for example and expecting it to come down in price. Couple of questions: 1) How soon in advance is too soon to enter the pre-match. For example I've seen price on a Dutch game tomorrow which is at 2.3 on Betfair right now but oddschecker showing most bookies have them at 2.10....would this be enough information to enter a trade. 2) how do you get to grips with learning how to use ladders etc, I've only ever used the betfair??

[@drewbogardi4550]

Quick question, do you have to know a lot about futbol in order to do this or is it more so reading the market live? I am versed in the american sports NHL MLB NFL NBA as opposed to futbol (soccer). Great content, keep it up :)

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

It certainly helps in some areas (inplay). However, knowing about the market is a far more effective approach.

[@Danielgrocott1988]

you seem to be talking about Infogol a lot these days, they should be paying you for all this free advertising!

[@grahambeyer6254]

How bigger stake is possible to get through that market Caan?

[@chriscoady6838]

So have you placed 1000 pounds on All 3 outcomes or just man united to win ? The software confuses the hell out of me

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Just Man Utd to win, riding the price movement.

[@donzhan531]

Hi Caan, following your channel, Thanks for your work and videos, Question: If the position would go against you at what point you would take a loss? Thanks

[@grahamhughes6286]

Hi Caan, nice video. Thanks. Out of curiosity. United had a poor result last night in the champions league. Now face a tough trip to Everton Saturday lunchtime. United at 2.5, Everton at 3.0. I wpuld expect them to be more even. Especially going by league standings. Would you say because of last night's result, being away from home, and league standings, are good enough reason to think united might drift before kick off? Am i on the right lines? Thanks

[@kleinduimpje6213]

Amazing content love to see more 👀👍

[@zzhughesd]

Caan , who you’ve tipped in your head US presidential ?

[@subhashnaik9034]

Tell me which is the best five football startergy to win the bet...

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

There's a video on our channel page outlining 3 good ones.

[@subhashnaik9034]

@@CaanBerryProTrader share the link below

[@tomshuttle2767]

Excellent video as always! How do you close out your position/cashout on this software?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

There are several ways if you check out the manual, but I prefer to click the P/L column as seen.

[@ildiseitaj5335]

Hello, where I can find the app you are using for those details?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

The app to trade? Geeks Toy for Betfair.

[@paulmann2039]

Hi mate weird question but is there ways to buy betting accounts that are verified and you can you skrill to withdraw? Thanks

[@isaka3173]

Hello Caan, nice video, can you tell me, how do you calculate your lay bet ?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

The software does it for me :)

[@tomg3833]

How many superdry t-shirts do you own? tbf, reliable quality even if it is a dad brand now.

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

lol... fair. Lost count, pretty much all I buy. Shopping's not my thing.

[@deandashingly872]

With this method do you usually back the home team?

[@2477andy]

Do you put put on a stop loss when you begin your trade?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

No.

[@tonyburn]

Love the video, thanks again for sharing. I'm able to make very good returns now from football but its took a while and I'm still learning. Not sure that geeks toy is better than bet angel and what it can do lol, horses for courses though, as the saying goes. Many thanks again. :)

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Great to hear, Tony. Pre-match movement is definately for the risk-averse. Each to their own on the software, they all use the same API and have the same features (of use). I'm led to believe GT has twice as many users than BA so can't be all that bad :)

[@tonyburn]

@@CaanBerryProTrader Absolutely, of course. Someone elsewhere explained to me that you may have a close association with GT so I understand that there may be some competition here, not sure how true that is, but its absolutely fine either way. Don't get me wrong lol, I wasnt having a go. Ive used GT, among others, and its a great piece of software, but BA's feature set (Im sure lots of peeps aren't aware of a lot of what it can do) and the way's in which it can show the market, its automation, which I use a lot, swings it for me, used it for years now and know it really well. But the key amongst everything is knowledge and the skill to use that knowledge, and I have learned so much from yourself, Peter Webb and KZbinr Ben from Sports trading life. You gentleman are experts in this field and I enjoy learning from you all. Your book Betfair Trading made simple is superb, sits pride of place on my bookshelf, and I can have no hesitation in 100% recommending it to anyone. :)

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Someone else explained that to you? the puppet master himself? lol. I appreciate you're just a regular user that probably views all content but you're quite mistaken and missing a bit there... I am a 10 year customer of GT. I have become freindly with them over time being one of their top users, picked out by Betfair as a success story for various campaigns. BA doesn't really offer anything extra of use and comes at a 500% mark-up, just a puppetmaster pulling the strings on snide behaviour from behind the scenes. That popular book you mentioned, that I wrote for example, was subject to several snide attacks and insinuations from the side of the fence you're camped there, they then renamed their forum to that of the books title in order to suck in extra search traffic from Google. Did you know that? There's a long history of dirty tactics and snide behaviour, such as the fake social media accounts that do the dirty for them too, explaining various false-truths and lies to people (maybe you can relate). Maybe I'm appearing a little curt here, but its become quite boring over the last 7 or so years. Others were targeted long before me.

[@tonyburn]

@@CaanBerryProTrader That's a long and emotional response that I didnt quite expect. Clearly there have been some issues that have happened and I can see its a bit of a raw nerve with the name calling and the curtness. I dont really see myself as being parked in any particular camp when it comes to the politics of things like this. Its of no concern to me, its between the parties involved, Im more interested in things, and people (including your good self), that know more than me and are kind enough to share that knowledge. I prefer the software I use and the resources and support because it suits my needs and does what I want it to do. But its no dig at any other person or the excellent other software's that are out there. :) Sometimes the written word does not always convey the right meaning. No offence was intended or implied on my part. If I can clarify, this 'someone' was just a random person on a betting forum commenting on a thread; and we all know what the Internets like lol. :)

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Haha, very good. No not emotional, just bored of it. Yes I know what the internet's like... These 'someones' often have at least 10 accounts to pop on said forums or social platforms to make comments weaving their agenda. For example, there was once a well-established blog called Pinsticker, when it was confirmed as a software vendor and they were called out it suddenly vanised from the internet a day later? I've also had many messages over the years from followers who have said they made a positive comment about me on said forums and the owner (same software vendor) removes the comment/post. Note: they didn't remove the ones that sew the seed of doubt with you did they? :D In fact, that's actively encouraged (under multiple aliases, expected to be the software vendor). I really don't care what software is used to be honest, I've tried them all. However, I don't see a problem with stating facts when one person insists on behaving in such a disgusting fashion. It's well documented, and not just targetted at me... Geeks Toy, Gruss, Steve Howe, the Badger have all been on the recieving and too.

[@zzhughesd]

Thanks

[@MultiKinster]

I wish I did this as well

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

There's always tomorrow :)

[@bixou22002]

@@CaanBerryProTrader Not always unfortunately !

[@gustavomotta9897]

Brazilian. Gracias.

[@aayushsinha2973]

What software is that?

[@niallhealey]

If I was so sure the market was goin to move in my favour hours before kick off/ start time could i essentially stake £50k back wait for it to move and then cash out my position. Figures are completely random but do betfair allow stakes this high? What are your thoughts on auto bots and have you ever used such software whilst trading?

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Yes they do and yes you could. The downside being your stakes at that large would move the market as you filtered them on.

[@snakeoo7ca]

Man Utd. Screwed me on this game

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Unlucky! Should have hedges up before the start!!

[@snakeoo7ca]

@@CaanBerryProTrader you hedge every game huh? I should do that aswell

[@stupot1952]

DONT UNDERSTAND THE GRAPHS CAN YOU NOT DO IT ON BETFAIR ITSELF

[@lucywalker9868]

Not goin to say want match . But I listened to a match on the radio today and was waiting for a goal and on betfair I had first half over 0.5 goals. Soon as I heard a goal scored i placed the bet and it took it's time but accepted it then suspended a second later . Was this lucky ??

[@garfield2193]

Your post makes no sense, sorry

[@tomojobs]

@@garfield2193 Of course it makes sense. Roughly translated 'I was listening to a football match on the radio one day and it said a goal had been scored, i then quickly went to betfair and put a bet on over 0.5 first half goals and it was accepted and suspended a second later' I think it's pretty lucky yeah, I suppose it could happen sometimes but not often

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Can you explain some more?

[@lucywalker9868]

@@CaanBerryProTrader I was listening to a match on five live and thought betfair might be slow updating so listen on radio for a goal to be scored . And placed the bet on betfair over 0.5 goals first half. And the bet went on then suspended virtually straight away after I placed it

[@playstationplayer7633]

@@lucywalker9868 I hate to call bs, but I’m absolutely certain bookmakers have a 2 second advantage over tv and radio. There is absolutely no way in my mind this happened. I’ll have a live game on tv and my betting app open on laptop. Every single goal and card is registered on my laptop screen way before it plays out on “live tv” Try it again, it’ll never happen again. Glitch in the matrix maybe.

[@vinodkannan4274]

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[@jamescaff346]

Stop trying to over complicate everything just keep it simple

[@CaanBerryProTrader]

Trying to over complicate it? It's not that complicated.... not sure how it could be made simpler mind.

[@omalnoah8802]

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[@bixou22002]

2 years later....

[@vinodkannan4274]

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