360 Buckhammer vs 45-70 Govt - How Many Milk Jugs???

360 Buckhammer vs 45-70 Govt??? - How many milk jugs to stop them??? Watch til the end to see me catch them and weigh what we caught!!!
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[@jasonbeason4780]

Have you ever shot a 30-30 150 grain hollow points. That's all we ever used hunting white tail and never losing one with this round

[@benjaminhuberty5888]

Leveroution from Hornady is insane. Big holes.

[@chrisgabbert658]

I’ve got a box of them, they were 13.35 .

[@krisgreenwood5173]

Not every State gets to use the 30-30. It is a great deer round and has been used for 100 years. But, not everyone gets to use it.

[@matt5415]

Illinois won’t allow 30-30 since it’s bottle necked, but allows 45-70 and 360 buckhammer. These videos are fascinating for us Illinoians.

[@jasonbeason4780]

Two comments have something to do with the actual 30-30. The other are we can't use them here. I'm sorry.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

The 360 BH uses the same bullet as the 35 Remington but in a blown out 30-30 case for straight wall status. I’m not in a straight wall state so 35 Remington is a better choice for me. 200 gr Core lokt has been taking game since 1909 (?).

[@Sourdough444]

I look forward to this one. The truth is, bullet construction is more determinative than the caliber. In theory, with similar barrel lengths, these two factory loads should impact with similar amount of kinetic energy. The 405gr .458" bullet has greater sectional density compared to the 200gr .358" bullet. With that said, the 45-70 should penetrate further, but a bullet's construction is engineered to make a bullet perform in a specific way. Them brainiac bullet makers abilities supersede simple rules of sectional density. Sectional density still matters, but is only one of many factors.

[@kareldebures7006]

Well said!

[@raykasa7679]

Absloutely. Bullet weight,bullet construction (jacket thickness, hardness of lead core & profile) & velocity must be equal for a fair test.

[@19derrick77]

And if we are only counting the number of jugs, a recurve bow with field points would likely do better. Less overall damage, but more jugs. Fun! But oversimplified at best.

[@nikos6220]

Congrats Adam, your Milk Jug vids are like a good Whiskey, authentic, non-fancy but still polished and smooth.

[@edwardh1591]

I used to make a 500 grain hard cast bullet for the 4570. Had a load for them that was only for the marlin because the velocity was 2200 fps. 2 loading on a piece of brass. Love the 45-70!

[@ewetho]

Been in that neighborhood on an encore and OUCH! But man is it fun!

[@edwardh1591]

@@ewetho you won’t forget pulling the trigger on that round.

[@Rickkari7]

That big old 45/70 boolot wasn't stopping for anything. What a beast! Must knock a deer right over in the go ahead a gut me position.

[@brianpeterson5553]

I've never had to track one with my 45/70, always dropped in their tracks

[@brandondavis4306]

@@brianpeterson5553 that's awesome to hear I just bought a new ruger made marlin 1895 SBL and i have to say ruger did them great 100 yards 13 rounds I had groupings I covered with a dime.

[@danielpray9089]

I used a 405 gr hard cast bullet over black powder in a 45-70 Sharps for hunting one year. Would shoot through 8-10 inch pine logs with no trouble at all. Took a deer on one of the last days of the season. All I could see was its head and neck. Getting dark enough I had to hold the sights off in a pool of light and then move the sights onto the neck. Deer never moved but didn't prove just how good the hard cast bullet was since it was a neck shot and nearly everything would work then. The 45-70 can penetrate a looong ways. The 405 gr Remington would not expand like the 360 did. Hence it would go through many more jugs. Good experiment though. Keep up the good videos. Thanks. ps. Eyes going bad. Can't even shoot right handed any more. Sold the Sharps. Now use Ruger No1 in 45-70 with a scope.

[@hearstdaman2269]

I've enjoyed going back and looking at the 360 BH videos as I'm thinking about buying one.

[@DanyRivard]

Probably my reload 45-70 Govt cartridge with lead free Triple-Shock X bullet !

[@pbeardy]

Awe man! Just needed one more jug. Thank you for all the effort you put into these very enjoyable videos.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@NC-xk1eg]

Absolutely love a .45-70. Mine with 325 grainers devastate things. I save milk/tea jugs. I have about an S-10 bed full if you want them? Great job Adam!!!

[@francisbarbeau1862]

I'll taking my Marlin, 336 35 Rem(again) this coming Deer Sason!

[@chrishousewright9346]

Same here. A remington 760 35 rem. I absolutely love this rifle for woods hunting.

[@Oldnoitall]

That buck jumped for deer heaven ! With all the lead boolots you’ve captured, if labeled and displayed in the right way could really look good in a man’s cave for sure. But as many as you probably have they should be coated with something lol !! Thanks again to the hardest working man in the you tube business ! Again with all the Degrees and Diploma s you’ve got i can’t understand why a major firearm company hasn’t made you an offer you couldn’t refuse and what matters most is the down to earth common sense that you have !! To go with the college education. Very uncommon in today’s world. !! Wa Yea. !!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for the kind words. All that matters these days is who you know. 👍👍

[@JMPoutdoors]

I used a 45-70 on a big hog a few years back. It turned his shoulder into ground meat lol

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

Pretty fun video. Who doesn’t like to see water jugs explode 🤯 lol 😆 I moved to Ohio last September and can now hunt as a resident this upcoming fall. I don’t have a straight wall cartridge rifle at the moment. I do have my 50 cal muzzleloader and my brother said that I could borrow and potentially buy his AR in 350 L. Which is cool 😎, but I have a thing for lever guns 💪🏻 and want to get my first one soon. These two cartridges are the top two contenders. I’m waiting for Henry to make the 360 Buckhammer 🦌🔨 in their All Weather model before I buy one. I’m not scared of the 45/70 by any means but something easier on the shoulder with plenty of power and trajectory for deer 🦌 bear 🐻 and hogs is intriguing to me and worth the wait. If I had the money 💰 I’d buy one of each lol 😆

[@KenBlackRifleAmerica]

Two rugged cartridges. I like the 360 Buckhammer for it's hitting power for whitetails. The old 45-70 a strong cartridge...used for deer, bear, hogs, etc....

[@g.k.dalton4530]

I remember the how many paper plates will it go trough… and I thank you for keeping on showing us the buck hammer makes me want one even more!! 🤦🏻‍♂️😂👍🏻

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I need to get some plates!

[@NC-xk1eg]

I think that on these big calibers velocity is king. JMO

[@srsatlaf4730]

Love me my RA Marlin SBL 1895 45-70 GOV. The 360 BH is on my radar and short list for upcoming purchases.

[@chrisaerts6489]

Love the milk jug challange.

[@josephmedeiros5770]

Would have loved to see how the 405gr 45-70 bullet performed. Too bad it wasn't caught.

[@yomomma107]

Great video wtw They both are awesome rounds. One is legal in my state and one is not....damn case length restrictions 1.80"

[@anthonyjbargeman5280]

Damnit who tee ... Now i want a 360 😂

[@cha-ka8671]

think the deer loved it. It jumped up and danced. LOL

[@airair862]

7.62×51 7.62×54r VS 1/2 Mild Steel Plate 50 yards.❤

[@dwaynek.1293]

Love your channel. 😊 I have a 1895 with ballard rifling in 45-70. My microgroove model i had first wouldnt shoot all lead cowboy loads in 405 gr accurately so i got rid of it and got the ballard style. Its a tack driver with the same load. The thing with the 45-70 is, it can be loaded to pressures and velocities that surpass the 360 buckhammer. Most factory loads are kept at a minimum because of older rifles out there. There are some very hot factory ammunition out there that will even take elephants and other big/dangerous game. I like the 35 caliber. I use to own a marlin 336 in.35 Remington. I took my first deer ever as a young boy with it. I wish i still had it. Marlin rifles are overpriced now in my opinion. Maybe ill find a good used one someday. The one thing with the 45-70 is i dont think some states with straight wall case laws will allow it because of the overall length of the cartridge. Thats why the 450 bushmaster is around. I myself would use a rifle in the 460 smith and wesson in states with cartridge restrictions. You could shoot 460, 454 casull and 45 colt from the same rifle. Theres a gun shop in Alaska that started making the 457 alaskan which is a slightly lengthened 45-70. They rechamber marlins in it but you can also shoot 45-70 too. The name is wild west guns. They use to have a show on tv. Hey maybe since its hard to get alot of milkjugs, you can build you a long wooden box with walls on the side and buy big freezer bags and fill them with water then line them up. That would make a splash. I think i saw someone else do this on youtube. Well ive rambled enough. Thanks for the video WTW 😊

[@lucyloose6727]

I use 41 grains of 4198 with a 405 jacketed soft point. It’s extremely accurate in my Marlin 1895..

[@peterluttgens3364]

Who tee who We need to see the 360 Buckhammer v the .350 Legend v the .30-30W all together in the Plates 😮 Water Jugs 😮 Clay Blocks 😮 Weights & projectiles as close as possible So to put an end to all the debate on what’s best at what 🎉🎉🎉 Pete 🇦🇺

[@vincentcronin3361]

I love the milk jugs videos since way back when! Also i found it hilarious how with your black shirt you looked like a floating head and hands haha

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

One more Jug hey!? and that time it went dead straight and everything!

[@brianpeterson5553]

I'm taking my jm stamped 1895gs in 45/70 govt, mainly because I already own it (first gun I bought brand new out of the box) and secondly because I can't afford the henry or the 360 buckhammer ammo, ( I've been stocked in 45/70 since before ammo got expensive plus my reloading supplies.

[@garymessina1609]

Great comparison great shoot great video thanks wtw 45/70 can't get 360 buckhammer

[@dustinweaver3032]

Left a comment not even a week ago saying that we would love to see more lever gun videos and more Rimfire videos and you delivered big thumbs up as always

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍 appreciate you watching!

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Im getting a 357mag pistol so may get levergun in 357. Appreciate all your content !

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome. Always appreciate you watching

[@francisbarbeau1862]

Why not the 450 Bushmaster VS. the 45-70?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@natjonestower3035]

WTW looking like some kind of halloween creepshow with that floating head business.

[@bryantbutlermf]

Buckhammer looked like it splashed them jugs everywhere. But obviously 45/70 is nuts close range in a rifle

[@merlinnorris817]

Maybe you might consider using a lighter grain bullet in the 4570 maybe 300 be a better comparison for a deer bullet

[@williamgaines9784]

For "primitive" I am taking 500S&W mag. in H&R 1871, 350 Legend in CVA Scout, and 44 mag in CVA Hunter. Not all at same time😊, but a grandson or granddaughter will be using one of the CVAs. During reg season, may use 30-06, 7mm Rem Mag, 25-06, 7.62x39, and 5.56x45(grandson really likes it), or one of my handguns.

[@jimeikelberg7934]

I am taking my All Weather Henry 45-70 for sure and for certain. Lol Some new cartridges are reinventing the wheel.

[@charlessmith4242]

* Just reinventing the wheel in order to accommodate hunters that reside in certain states that will not allow the use of similar type cartridges,due to the stupidity of those state's lawmakers.

[@jimeikelberg7934]

@@charlessmith4242 you are correct it's a shame lawmakers are scared by a 30 30

[@bliksemdonder5624]

Heavy always works well so no sneezing at the results on the jugs. My preferred hunting load for even the small white tail deer here in south Texas is a 450gn cast bullet from a 458Winmag running at ~1,800fps (45-70 equivalent from a heavy bolt gun). Hits like the hammer of Thor and anchors the deer every time. I like the new lever cartridge but like the 350 Legend it is an expensive niche round due to silly rules imposed upon us in some states. (Ingenuity always triumphs over bureaucrats) If i have spare coin I will probably get a lever gun in the new caliber as I have liked the lever platform for many years.

[@l.a.3887]

Loved that shot on that deer with the buck hammer really cool grate stuff 👌👏😎

[@jeffe4478]

Milk does a body good. Thanks for the videos and stay safe.

[@user-yo1wu8mn9s]

Who_Tee_Who, love your channel and love your content, BUT, as a huge fan of the 45-70 I’d like to see you compare a different 45-70 load as the Remington Cor Lokt is a very light load. Capable of being used in a Springfield Trapdoor. A better representation of a modern 45-70 would be something like Hornady 325 FTX or if you want magnum performance use a Buffalo Bore that’s 2200 fps and over 4000 ft pounds of energy at the muzzle. The 360 isn’t quite apples to apples with the 45-70. Thanks and keep doing what your doing!

[@user-yo1wu8mn9s]

The 360 would be better compared to a 350 legend.

[@johnlayne-sr9mw]

Dude that was great the buckhamer looks like good boolot but I'll say 45.70 tried and true boolot Dude you smoked that deer loved it

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

Those Lever Actions are so cool, but out here in the Karoo in South Africa, it won't work. All of my last shots were at 300 meters

[@RitterRundown]

45-70. The OG buck hammer. Or almost anything hammer.

[@kareldebures7006]

This will be interesting...mind you that I love comparison cartridges! And everyone can continue laughing at me for the zero being high at 100 yards for the standard iron sights and the fixed scope setting! And I do zero for the adjustable scopes at the 100 mark, and by the way, happy Tuesday to everyone!

[@AdamParker91]

Well I zero every rifle at 50 yards due to me not ever having to shoot past that. Stalking and shooting is fun 😜 Closer you get the better the feeling. If it works for you screw what everyone else says.

[@zodac1976]

I’m going to be using my Henry 45-75 when I go deer hunting this year.

[@Frostytravels]

love the 45-70 especially in a Henry rifle. Awesome gun. This was really a great video.

[@jeffhuntley2921]

Go to a local dealership or truck stop and ask them to save there DEF fluid containers. They’re 2-2.5 gal and work great to catch boolots:)

[@mogulrider]

350 legend dropping power shocks me every I see a deer's legs fold like tent poles

[@nathenfarmer5625]

I have a 44 mag I use. the reason is no shot over 60 yards. Good luck this year

[@eddiehuff7366]

I really like the milk jug videos!! :):):)

[@nikos6220]

😂 just needed a 9th jug. Just stick with the eight and use the Hornady 45-70 Sub-X 410 grainers and you’ll probably find both in jug number 5

[@garrettforchrist2700]

I'm guessing 7 for the 45-70, and 5 for the 360 Buck Hammer!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲 1 John 1:1

[@charlesharper7292]

How come some states will only let you use a straight wall cartridge? I don't get it.

[@joelkoning6190]

Would like to see the 360 vs 35 rem. Same diameter and available in the same grain weight.

[@JoseyWalesWi]

Being it's the 45-70s 150th birthday, I'd take it out to celebrate....but that's just me.😁

[@cajuama]

Let's start a plastic jug fund for good ol Who_Tee_Who. Y'all can deliver them to the range.

[@mikestanley9176]

That Henry is a good looking boom stick.

[@arthurshingler2025]

I shot a deer once with the 405gr. JSP loaded to a teeth rattling 1600 fps.! A Remington bullet handloaded. The deer was about 50 yards. The bullet zipped right thru the deer....a behind the shoulder shot. Little hole going in and little hole going out. No evidence of expansion at all. Just a chunk of lung the size of my fist behind where the deer had been standing. Not much blood either. The deer ran about 30 yards, and collapsed. A few minutes later, I recovered it... for a four hour drag out of the woods! So I've seen deer shot with the Remington 300 grs. JHSP factory load. It penatrated very well.... angling gut shot. The exit hole out of the hind quarter was about an inch in size. Internally it blew up everything it seemed. It was a mess. We tracked the poor thing 300 or 400 yards. It was the hunter's first deer... I made him gut and drag the small buck out. I don't know if he ever hunted again. But for my money, the 300 grs bullet is the way to go for deer. Just don't gut shoot the animal! I hunt with a 356 Winchester downloaded to a hot 35 Remington load... or likely the new Buckhammer. It kills deer every bit as good as a 45-70. So, again this year, it will be either my 356, 300 Savage, or a 6.5X55. They along with the Buckhammer, don't drop as much as my 45-70. So within 200 yards, any of those with the exception of the 45-70, will be perfect for me this deer season! Eventually, I will buy the new Buckhammer.

[@unbalancedredneck5778]

I’d like to see the 360 BH against the 350 legend

[@jeffhuntley2921]

Ranger os looking good 👍

[@mrackerm5879]

Is the 360 Buckhammer going to survive or will it go the way of the magnificent 375 Winchester cartridge?

[@jeffhuntley2921]

I’d love a 45/70. The mew levers are awesome

[@michealbrough1802]

You should put it up against the 35 rem and the 32spl

[@kennethshoemaker2941]

I would like to see you do that with the 350 an 450 an 360 and no full metal jacket bullets

[@nedkarp8468]

Fun video, how about comparing a 350 Legend and a 400 Legend to the Buckhammer and Bushmaster? For that matter, one video that compares all the available straight walled cartridges in one place.

[@benjaminthaxton5087]

If u get a chance get a 444 marlin and put it up vs 45-70. And 360 buck hammer. And the New Legends

[@armstrong_mountainside]

Put a bail or bag of compressed rags or clothes behind your jugs . You will catch it every time

[@tankmeister8131]

Maybe put a wall of clay behind it, I’ll take the 45/70 thanks

[@randlerichardson5826]

Sorry I missed it was 8:15 before I noticed the time

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey Randle

[@brandondavis4306]

so the 360 buckhammer is an updated 35 remington basically?

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

My pips got a 3030 henry. Gorgeous. Bet yours is too. Even a short of it close up would be great!

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

Nice new angle

[@robertwies6806]

Great shot!

[@dickdastardly8150]

A collapsible plastic water container might work for the deer. I really like the 360 buck hammer. The shot on the deer gets me every time, great shot! 4570 is fun to reload with black powder but imo not a practical round with today's technology. Modern 4570 is over powered for its application imo. Not to mention very expensive as well hence the reloading with black powder. Nice Oakleys btw.

[@IWatchedWhat]

It will be 45-70, or 458 socom, they are both about the same, one in a lever the other in an AR.

[@danielahammel648]

Very nice 45-70s r nice

[@randymoats2059]

45/70 my choice already have one and to cheap to buy the other one lol

[@itsjustjoe3790]

Thanks for the data

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@johncadloni4538]

Please please please do a jug test with 200gr boolot in the 360 bkhmr and compair to the 180. Please please please.

[@mike-xh3yh]

I know you don’t have every caliber so I might be asking a lot, have you considered doing the milk jug test with the 35 Remington I feel like they would be a fair comparison. Thank you Great video

[@getoffmylawn8986]

You had me at .45-70 vs. anything, however do you think you can persuade Ruger to chamber a #1 in 360 Buckhammer?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That would be sweet

[@876mpr]

We need to get Remington to start making the 405 grain soft point as a component again. Got any clout with them?

[@Pawcatfoxwolf]

45-70 vs 450 bushmaster 😊

[@danmorris447]

How about a 360 buck hammer vs 350 legend ?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@adamgregory8167]

Day 21 asking for 17hmr vs 50 bmg vs milk jug!!!

[@realanderssnass]

So you guys in the US have some laws about hunting with different type of cartridges(straight wall / bottle neck) ??? The big thing that matters here in Finland 🇫🇮 is the hitting energy at 100meters 🤔 what you think about that? I think it is reasonable.

[@Jason-nt5gr]

Same footage for the 360 Buckhammer as the 30-30 vs 360 video? Don’t blame you. Milk jugs come at a premium with my family.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup. Ran out of jugs

[@dalepogue5799]

Seen Some 243 core lokt at Walmart today

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Sweeeeet

[@JeRKII]

Remington makes some awesome ammo.. I look forward to the day when they are on the shelves or maybe just being able to purchase them factory to consumers

[@WHOTEEWHO]

On the shelves here - and you can buy direct

[@JeRKII]

Thanks by the way

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@JeRKII can't post the links here but they have most stuff direct on their page.

[@JeRKII]

@@WHOTEEWHO Your awesome Thanks

[@jefferywhitson2340]

Good friend of mine uses the 4570 i prefer my 30-06 in 175 grain though

[@OCMedia123]

Do more on 17 hmr

[@chrismills4213]

Imagine the performance of the 45-70 with Remington max pressure loads 😉 Or the Buffalo loads ….

[@markreaves8086]

Buy a bunch of jugs of distilled water 💦 give that to the deer then you will have your jugs

[@byronwarden1982]

How about compairing the 360 buck hammer to the the 350 legend?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Did in another video. Will do more

[@galenhisler396]

I'll be taking my winchester 70 in 270 shooting 130gr.

[@davidno1minton997]

400,and,360,be,cool

[@CoolStuff5309]

Looks like a heart shot on that deer. Can't argue with that! As for the 45-70, there is something to be said for inertia. Folks around here say that a 405 grain bullet out of a 45-70 will go end-to-end through a moose. Based on what I've seen on WT deer (angled pass-throughs), I would tend to agree. That 360 is obviously up to the task.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup. Heart