$399 VS $649 What's The Difference? Budget Kayak Comparison

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Headwaters Kayak

Headwaters Kayak

Күн бұрын

"Is it really worth $250 more?" "Why would anyone spend that when Walmart has them for $300?"
I hear these sorts of questions all the time, and honestly, they're valid! Who would you spend $250 more is the $400 one is just is good. I mean look at the specs and features, they are so similar! Without the ability to really touch in feel, or speak with a professional these sorts of questions are often left unanswered. My goal in this video is to bring you guys along and show you the details I notice between two comparable entry-level fishing kayaks. I hope this helps your buying process.
Thanks for watching and Happy Paddlin!
Dan
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@twowheelslater7112
@twowheelslater7112 3 жыл бұрын
I have had both but don't any longer have either. The moken 10.5 is head and shoulders above the lifetime. The lifetime is probably a better boat for a youth and really paddles better than the moken. The moken is really stable but a barge and spins when you quit paddling. It needs the rudder to live with it. I don't think of the lifetime as a fishing yak its more of a rec yak that you can fish from. It will go over quick when you reach back if you arent paying attention. No go with a bunch of expensive tackle and rods. My lifetime went back because it showed up with two left foot rests and screws missing. Couldn't get parts from lifetime. They said they were shut down at the time because of covid. The moken was warrantied because it cracked behind the scuppers under the seat. Now I have a Moken 12.5 v2 and I am a happy camper. Skip both of these and get the moken 12.5. It is really worth the money. You can save on the rudder if you went with the 12.5.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 3 жыл бұрын
Great feedback. I agree for not a lot more $ the Moken 12.5 paddles circles around the 10.
@twowheelslater7112
@twowheelslater7112 3 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Smith The moken can have the seat in a high or low position. The moken is quite a bit wider at the seat area. It's pretty stable to stand up in. The extra volume also makes it a really dry ride. The extra width also makes it paddle slower and not glide so well.
@carluskurowski8273
@carluskurowski8273 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe u could throw the agenda 10.5 in the mix
@carluskurowski8273
@carluskurowski8273 3 жыл бұрын
Acend
@gregstabryla9945
@gregstabryla9945 3 жыл бұрын
Went with the moken 12.5 from the get go. Love it.
@larryreid8562
@larryreid8562 8 ай бұрын
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. kzbin.infoUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
@keranzhuo2640
@keranzhuo2640 8 ай бұрын
I upgraded from a cheap princess auto buffer/polisher to the dewalt after breaking the handle off. kzbin.infoUgkxfzbDkCRyv3CFXnLZI4APZtRRuG2uRmP2 The dewalt is beyond rugged! It's super comfortable to use and the "D" handle has many options for holding onto it if you are working in weird positions. The electronic speed control is precise and it has a nice variable speed trigger for slow ramp up.I have upgraded to the 3m quick change setup and been using it for 3 years for reconditioning gel coat on boats. It's hard work for any machine and I've had no issues. If you need a machine that can put in serious work, this is the one you want. If you want to light buffing, on your car, this is not the machine for you. It's easy to control but you can get yourself in trouble very quickly if you don't know what you are doing.
@HypoLuxa13
@HypoLuxa13 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how you talk about and show the hulls of the kayaks you review so much of the time. So many "reviews" out there just go through the features and don't talk about the actual build and design of the yaks. Thank you!
@jonluis9088
@jonluis9088 3 жыл бұрын
It's also great to get the opinion from an experienced paddler for sure. I bet he paddles a hundred miles a month.
@randywester5851
@randywester5851 3 жыл бұрын
So thankful for your comparisons. You do an excellent job.
@vernonsimmons4578
@vernonsimmons4578 3 жыл бұрын
A new appreciation for the Moken 10’ ...Thanks Dan as always.
@kadams0017
@kadams0017 3 жыл бұрын
You do a really great job of going over the full boat on your walkthroughs; I just purchased a Moken 10 v2 here in Ohio and your video ( and others) helped me make my decision....your work beyond being a seller but a reviewer and content creator as well is greatly appreciated...
@rorschach5652
@rorschach5652 2 жыл бұрын
I went kayaking for the first time in my life and I loved it. If I was amazed with those cheap rental ones, I can’t imagine all the fun with one of these. Def will buy one soon, following you now. great comparison between these two!!
@davidball8
@davidball8 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Dan. You do so much for the sport and not afraid to show the box store stuff against the bigger name products. You were one of the main reasons I went with the feelfree two years ago and have had no regrets. Thanks again.
@chrisbaldridge142
@chrisbaldridge142 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be buying 2 of the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's for my oldest grandsons, the boat is plenty big enough for both boys and for what we will be using them for. Thank you for continuing to do these videos and reviews, I enjoy watching them.
@steveprinty5674
@steveprinty5674 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Similar boats, but one is built down to a price and the other is built up to a standard. Nothing wrong with that, both seem fairly priced. So you get what you pay for with either one. I have met a lot of kayakers who were happy with their first “budget” boat, but are saving for a better one. I’m glad wife and I were able to skip that step and start with Eddyline. Life is short.
@SWBStX
@SWBStX 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my first kayak and it's a yukon (got a deal used). I'm excited to see your review of it that you mentioned you'd be doing in the future.
@wordhog61
@wordhog61 3 жыл бұрын
You are missed, the best Kayak reviews on KZbin
@angelamicay8748
@angelamicay8748 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. This helps a lot. Trying to pick out my first fishing kayak
@moziasgezias
@moziasgezias 3 жыл бұрын
I got a bigfish 105 for my first kayak 2 years ago and still love it, and its holding up very good.
@1745pacman
@1745pacman 3 жыл бұрын
I have had the Lifetime Tamarack now for 8 months used it at least ten times this summer. I love it! My first time kayaking and fishing. I got into the sport from watching your videos by the way!! Love it!! The Lifetime seat is super comfy.... The seals are good I don't have any water inside unless I open the front middle hatch when I caught a fish otherwise no leaks with the seals. The only thing is say the FF has over the Lifetime is the wheel and rudder which would be nice in the wind. The Lifetime I would imagine would paddle alot better than the FF I also plugged all my scuppers that helped alot because its a low boat. I would 100% recommend the Lifetime for a 1st angler!
@joshuad.3466
@joshuad.3466 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan, I purchased the Moken 10 V2 for my son last spring and we couldn’t be happier, awesome boat for the money!
@RemayPesca
@RemayPesca 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative review for those looking to start in kayak fishing.
@petersuddath6477
@petersuddath6477 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Dan! I found it to be really helpful.
@-SINSLAY
@-SINSLAY 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos got me into kayaking this year. Finding a kayak wasn’t the easiest though due to all going on in the world. Now that I know love the hobby I’m looking to upgrade into the Feelfree. Appreciate your videos and reviews!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Welcome to the sport and thanks for watching.
@OGJD1984
@OGJD1984 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in a similar boat. Got into Kayaking in 2020 and Headwaters is a part of my inspiration. Started in a lifetime and picked up a Moken 14 at the end of this last summer. I'm impressed. I wanted the longer boat for the ocean around here in SE Alaska. You can't go wrong with the Feelfree Moken. The 12.5v2 is arguably the best deal on the water dollar for how much boat you get. Comfort is a huge factor in how enjoyable a day on the water is.
@gregstabryla9945
@gregstabryla9945 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back! Will have to forward this to a friend who's looking into kayaking. Have the 12.5 v2. Love it.Can't understand why people still look at my kayak as if they never saw a wheel on the keel. Amazing how many people don't do their homework. Thanks Dan!
@WardenofWolves
@WardenofWolves 3 жыл бұрын
Aloha Dan. I'm in the market for a used kayak, but not either of these models. That said, I found this video to be very useful in identifying design features that I should be looking for when looking at various models. Just like your other videos I've seen, this was very helpful...and I really appreciate your practical approach to these reviews. Thank you.
@swimstud10
@swimstud10 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video!! You should do one on the best kayaks to add a trolling motor/ motorize!
@WeePee831
@WeePee831 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest factor in choosing my tamarack pro was the weight and overall size. As a smaller guy I needed something I could easily get on and off the roof of my hatchback solo.
@OKIE_KBCS
@OKIE_KBCS 2 жыл бұрын
This guy says Hullavator like it a simple fix. Those things are like minimum 500 USED!!
@skullduggerysmiles8393
@skullduggerysmiles8393 3 жыл бұрын
My advice is whatever kit you can afford, look after it, keep it clean and don't abuse it. It will last much longer. Always get the best paddle you can, cheaper ones tend to have less longevity.
@ch33kz
@ch33kz 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the review on the Lifetime Yukon. Also I like to know your opinion on the Vibe Sea 6host 110. Love the channel. ✌️
@jaygoings9933
@jaygoings9933 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the review on the 11'6 Yukon you gave a glimpse of in this video. I've owned one for 2 seasons now and all around great boat for the $399 I got it for the new. Wheel is janky but I love the open platform for measuring and submitting photos in KBF tournaments. I'm looking at welding a riser to get the seat up more.
@TheGoochinator1
@TheGoochinator1 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the Yukon review. It was all I could get because of COVID this summer. I still want a Big Fish 120, but I'll stick with the Yukon for one more year. Love the channel!
@larrynorrisjr9137
@larrynorrisjr9137 3 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews!! I have yet to get a kayak but your reviews are an absolute help!! Of the two here I would go with the Moken. But for just a hundred or so more I will probably go for the Moken 12.5. More speed, more stability and more boat.
@GoSTLBlues
@GoSTLBlues 28 күн бұрын
HEY THANKS, I just ordered my Feelfree moken 10 v2 today, let ya know your video is one that helped turn my eye to it. So yeah the video definitely helped me 👍
@TwistedMetalVideos
@TwistedMetalVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thxx for the review Dan. Both are cool. For me several benefits for the extra $$ long term on the Moken! Its a great looking craft as well. Nice sizable seat 2
@skoli55
@skoli55 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I have lifetime as my secondary kayak. It's great for a quick trip to weedy pond or small river. Lightweight is a big plus. Moken seems like much more of the kayak but not nearly enough for your main fishing vessel.
@jimnason9271
@jimnason9271 2 жыл бұрын
You were thorough in your review, Thank you for that. Given the number of garbage reviews on the internet yours is refreshing. You are clear and explain the differences clearly. Not sure I would buy either of these because I can afford a little more. But certainly the more expensive of these was clearly better. Even in this discussion you have pointed out the differences and helped me understand the differences and attributes of fishing kayaks. I have had a sit in 13 foot yak for several years. It worked well as kayak, but as I get older, it is getting hard to to in and out. My choice was and Old Town P160 , We will see how that works out. I will update.
@brentstafford6289
@brentstafford6289 3 жыл бұрын
I have the tamarack and love it ! Awesome recreation kayak , very sturdy and won’t break the bank
@paulwescott3011
@paulwescott3011 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Moken 10 V2 months ago and love it.
@fradrake11
@fradrake11 3 жыл бұрын
Great review man thanks for the information.
@ethanganse1519
@ethanganse1519 3 жыл бұрын
I just received my Feel Free Moken 10 V2. Had an Ascend 12T sold it because it was just getting to cumbersome to car top (I go kayaking a lot by myself). One of those situations where I thought I wanted/needed a 12ft then after having it a couple years came to the conclusion I didn’t lol Wheel in the keel is amazing for feel free. No more multiple trips to the boat launch to empty gear out then coming back for the yak. The basic moken 10 is good for me as I kayak/fish skinny water mostly. Love the quality of the plastics of feel free over the Ascend. Plus it’s just an amazing price for what you get really can’t beat it.
@TJ_Loves2fish
@TJ_Loves2fish 3 жыл бұрын
I have a V1 Moken 12.5. paid 600$ for it brand new when the V2's came out. I must say, the wheel in the keel that Feelfree puts on their kayaks has made me a Feelfree fan for life.
@dougwafzig1051
@dougwafzig1051 3 жыл бұрын
Bought the moken 10 in 2020 and love it nice size plenty of room. I'm 5' 11'' and 250 lbs. standing is doable but I wasn't real comfortable to stand and fish. Reaching the back was great because I could turn in the seat to easily reach my gear behind me. Packed full of camping gear last year and it was fine on the water but rides low so dragged on the shallows. Great boat in all, happy with my purchase from Mike's Hike and Bike in Richmond Ky.
@dougmiles6489
@dougmiles6489 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for video on kakay fishing. I am looking forward get my first kakay this year. I like the green camoflodge
@nickkeen6209
@nickkeen6209 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been in the market for kayaks for awhile now tired of bank fishing and making plans with buddies that have boats. Just found the feel free kayaks from your videos and more than likely thays what im going with the craftsmanship that goes into making them for the price is hard to beat. Plus the wheel in the keel is very nice as well and huge plus.
@kerrypitt9789
@kerrypitt9789 10 ай бұрын
Dan when i was in Highschool my best friend was in shop for a semester. They built a wood frame Kayak with a treated cloth skin. It looked a lot like the Kayaks used by the Deneé in the extreme north. He took that boat out on the ocean salmon fishing as well as on lakes. It was an incredible little craft!
@sflagg0817
@sflagg0817 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, my wife and I both went with Jackson Kilroy yes at about 1200 each we wanted piece of mind that we won't be replacing any time soon. I love mine for fishing, only down side they are a tad heavy at around 75 lbs each they are great though.
@mkanyuh
@mkanyuh 3 жыл бұрын
I think you nailed it!!! Comparisons like this are great.... I have the moken V2...and it is worth it for the extra features...#1 High capacity - I am 6'4 270... zero problems handling my size...#2 That seat...you can go 8 hours and not even feel discomfort...#3 STABILITY it says 33"... I think its closer to 35"...its just does not tip...I have been sideways in current pinned to a rock...it happens...it just does..... and still doesn't tip #4 wheel in the keel - I thought it was silly until I used it...it is awesome #5 molded in handles...so easy to carry...so easy to tie down...#6 Weight - 65 pounds is easily transportable #7 Rudder ready - I will be putting a rudder on it...it does really well for a 10 footer...but there is some swing out of the rear at low speed....I really think lifetime does a great job...if I was a reasonably normal sized person and wanted to stay under $500 i wouldn't hesitate to get a lifetime. How about those feelfree colors...I cant imagine how they get those fantastic color blends using little pebbles of plastic and melting them together.
@greggvarnadore6012
@greggvarnadore6012 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 6ft 250lbs and I love my Moken 10v2, my first kayak. I think its a great boat for the money especially when paired with a Bending Branches Angler Pro Plus paddle.
@gregstabryla9945
@gregstabryla9945 3 жыл бұрын
Have the moken 12.5 , don't weigh that much but wouldn't have it any other way. Same paddle, love it. I'm sure both will last my lifetime. ( unless I get lazy, can still put a trolling motor where my sonar pod is)) don't see that happening.
@jonluis9088
@jonluis9088 3 жыл бұрын
To answer your question of which boat I would choose of these 2, it depends on how frequently I want to take it out and if I had help. I'm in my 60's so I have to think about things like ease of loading/unloading. The Lifetime is more basic but it is also a fair bit lighter which is easier to load/unload with my roof rack. I would probably choose this one if I were going out once a month or so. Some of the problems you point out are pretty easy and inexpensive to fix such as adding a flexible grommet to the paddle holder and maybe adding grips to the floor for standing up. I also have made my own trolley wheel to attach for rolling the boat to and from the water that is pretty lightweight, easy to attach and store on the boat. If I were a more frequent paddle fisherman, I might go with the other with more features. Honestly either one would be a decent choice.
@NickyKDChaleunphone
@NickyKDChaleunphone 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Lifetime Kayaks are great for entry level kayak fishing and for those who want to get started in Kayak Fishing
@petersuddath6477
@petersuddath6477 3 жыл бұрын
The lifetime Teton fishing Kayak proved to be a great first fishing kayak for 399.00 at Dicks!!! Fast and stable. A good platform.
@johncrumpley8702
@johncrumpley8702 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison video. Thanks much!
@gonzo2.0
@gonzo2.0 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see a review where the host doesn't try and come off as the authority on every feature. Very fair comparisons. It would come down to budget and how long you expect to own either kayak. We have a Perception Pescador10 and a Pelican Catch 100 with a rudder, both do all we need to fish lakes in N Georgia. Great site
@chrisstark442
@chrisstark442 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I are getting into Kayaking. I started with an inflatable Intex and she started with an 8 foot Sun Dolphin. We are both ready to upgrade. My budget says go for the cheaper Kayak, but the features on the more expensive boat seems to be worth it based on the life of the boat.
@ryanpaasch7464
@ryanpaasch7464 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Yukon lifetime. I fish for bass up north in Wisconsin above Hayward. It works well and paddles easy. Stable and easy to fish out of . Easy to anchor with paddle and cords on it. I can stand on it, but I am hot the best at it yet. I am 270 lbs. I have a better two seat height with snap in locks. I really like the headwaters info! Keep up the good work.
@VTHokies1987
@VTHokies1987 9 ай бұрын
Awesome comparison video. Very much worth the view for newbies to the hobby.
@RedDragon72q
@RedDragon72q 3 жыл бұрын
I have the original Tamarack non pro version and it is ok. I had to get used to it as it felt like I was going to flip all the time but it never did. We tried to flip it once in 2 feet of water but it proved a lot more difficult than it feels. The one thing I found was the seat on it being attracted to the boat with plastic push plugs leak like crazy. Even in the rain it gets water in the hall. Glued those suckers closed. The paddle holder isn't like the pro so no leaking but I did go through all the screws and sealed them. Now here is the problem with it, I paid 249 for it two years ago and now they are going for 299 and 349. If I were in the market today I would save up to go from the standard Tamarack to the Pro and just hit everything with sealant.
@scubarojo
@scubarojo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fisherman, so I got the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's at Walmart end of season last one sale, got a deal. Took it out and was impressed with the stability and at about 57 lb I can lift myself and slide in into our RV (I'll be getting a rack soon). And most of all the seat is very nice for me. Adjustable tilt too. Other kayaks I've tried, my back is killing me after an hour. May be the best feature of this boat...at least for me. Wish it had a wheel like the more expensive boat, but I'll build or buy a dolly for it soon. Nice job on the video.
@streetstock36j
@streetstock36j 3 жыл бұрын
I have been in the market for a kayak for awhile and am planning on going and picking up a moken 10v2 hopefully next month. I have watched a ton of your videos and really enjoy them and feel like I have learned alot already. Have you ever done an on water review of the moken 10?
@CREEKFISHING423
@CREEKFISHING423 3 жыл бұрын
Id definitely go for the Moken in this comparison and is a contender for my ultimate choice. Thanks for the info on these.
@albert2araujo
@albert2araujo Жыл бұрын
Great video again man ! I am learning so much about Kayaks. Once again thank you! Very much appreciated.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Happy to help. Thanks for watching!
@6Sally5
@6Sally5 2 жыл бұрын
Dan...I’m still shopping, but have watched now probably every one of your videos. I get the stink eye from my wife when I hint around I’d like to get a kayak, because I’m almost 70, retired, and so not much extra money for yet another hobby (I do have quite a few). I think my best bet...for me...for now...will be the Tamarack (non-Pro). I just want to fish ponds, backwaters, and slow rivers. Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful reviews!
@jporter504
@jporter504 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Moken 10 v2 and it is one of the better budget kayaks made. I needed something that could actually fit in my mini van with the back hatch closed and the Moken fits. That being said, I am not a fan of the Feelfree rail system. Most of the accessories I want require an adapter and they rarely fit snug. The center console leaks like a sieve and really is useless for the most part. I would rather have nothing there to give me more standing room or have it come rigged for a depth finder. The pair of rails mounted near the stern serve no real purpose but to make it difficult to mount screw on accessories. Also, there is no easy way to access the inside of the hull. Maybe the v3 will address some of these issues. 😁
@michaelpotter3627
@michaelpotter3627 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a solid review
@honkerman74
@honkerman74 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 10 ft Old Town Vapor fishing kayak. I looked at cheaper options, but the Vapor is so much more sturdy, and seemed like a better made option. I've had it for I think five years and it's been fantastic. I'm glad I didn't go for something cheap.
@chuckeckerson7200
@chuckeckerson7200 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another excellent review! One of the things I love love love about this and similar videos is that it shows me things to look for what comparing kayaks. In that way, your video goes well beyond these two particular kayaks. You are teaching us to be observant kayak consumers. Well done! Thank you!
@jholl7339
@jholl7339 3 жыл бұрын
Great compare vid, Dan! I'd love to see your opinion on the Kaku Wahoo 10.5 and 12.5, especially against, say, the Crescent kayaks, since they appear quite similar.
@charlesdjones1
@charlesdjones1 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing these 2, I definitely feel good about getting the Pelican Catch 100, it's been great so far.
@codyk7552
@codyk7552 3 жыл бұрын
Feelfree all day. For $250 more you're getting something much higher quality that will easily last twice as long as the Lifetime. Being pre-plumbed for a rudder is a big plus, and the wheel in the keel is a game changer. I thought it was stupid gimmick when I saw it online, but I love it on my Lure 11.5. Hopefully they move away from their proprietary gear rails in the future. I wish Feelfree would change their Moken molds to use the transducer pod and accept their pedal drive. I feel like a Moken 12.5 with a pedal drive being offered at the $1500-$1600 price point would one of the best values in the industry. And a Moken 14 with the current 30 inch width and a pedal drive would be an offshore machine and a Hobie revo competitor.
@greglubinski7423
@greglubinski7423 3 жыл бұрын
I like your reviews and information you provide. Do you have suggestions for kayaks that will be mostly used on a river?
@lachainem
@lachainem Жыл бұрын
Holy crap!! I looked away before the video started and I thought it was Kevin Costner speaking. Great video. Thanks for doing the comparison.
@MajorPecker
@MajorPecker 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your analysis. I am not a fisherman, but have an entry level Lifetime sit on top, and looking to move to the next level of my kayaking journey. When determining how much I am willing to spend upgrading to the next kayak, depends on disposable income and how much time I can expect to be on the water. I am in Las Vegas, so my choices are Lake Mead, which is a little boring, or the river below the Hoover Dam, which I prefer. Right now I am only setup to run in the hotter months of summer, but contemplating getting a wetsuit and continuing my paddling in the fall and winter months. Unfortunately, there is no other kayaking options nearby without planning a long drive or long weekend somewhere else with my Kayak.
@mikes1345
@mikes1345 3 жыл бұрын
The added features seems to be well worth the added $250. I think the rudder kit would make it a top notch rig for a budget kayak.
@jonluis9088
@jonluis9088 3 жыл бұрын
The question then is how much more would a rudder kit add to the cost? I bet it's several hundred dollars because of the parst involved which would bring it out of the budget yak range. No?
@mikes1345
@mikes1345 3 жыл бұрын
Dang it! You might be correct!
@brushybillroberts2654
@brushybillroberts2654 3 жыл бұрын
You did a great job with this video. I'm a dedicated canoe guy. Seems everybody and their sister in law are buying kayaks these days. While i don't understand the attraction to the kayaks, compared to even a 12 foot fiberglass canoe, (My 12 footer weighs 40 pounds) It's good for those looking at kayaks to see comparisons like this one. That V2 weighs more than my 16 foot Sawyer, that can carry fishing and camping supplies and two coolers with two people. I think maybe the attraction is the learning curve to efficiently control a kayak is shorter than with a canoe. But again, great job on the video.
@MrOffshore
@MrOffshore 3 жыл бұрын
Great review so new buyers can learn what they get for their money. Hands down, I believe you’re better off saving up the additional $250 and buying the much higher quality Feel Free...it will out perform at every level and because it’s designed, engineered and built better, it will last longer, particularly under hard use. The extra payload alone is worth the $250. If you actually touch and feel both these kayaks, you will immediately feel the difference...the Feel Free is far more robust and the hull is much stiffer with thicker material built to last. The higher seating position on the Feel Free is also a game changer when it comes to sitting for extended time. The budge kayaks have come a long way...but so have the premium brands. When it comes to kayaks, you truly get what you pay for...so save a little longer and I believe you’ll be a lot happier in the long run. Great review!! Thanks!!
@krakhare7111
@krakhare7111 2 жыл бұрын
Just boat the moken 12.5 as my first kayak. It does what I expected it to do- get me out on the water, fishing comfortably.
@amac333
@amac333 2 жыл бұрын
solid review, thanks!
@BDiHaze
@BDiHaze 2 жыл бұрын
Evening. I have been doing my attending as many kayak tour events as possible to get my bearing of what I would like most when I purchase and thought I was set on the Pungo 125 until having my hand at a sea kayak when the tour guide gave me a go at the Old Town Nantucket 149. I know they don't make these anymore but would like your insight to help me with that decision. So far I have enjoyed how I felt more sound in the Pungo, by not flipping it any of the times I went out, but the Old town I flipped over several times in until I was able to get my bearing learning the sea kayaks are WAY MORE sensitive with any movement of your legs of shifting of your body weight. But once I got it, I really enjoyed it. I liked how it felt faster and more nimble when dealing with getting in/out of Eddie's, lagoons and being more in the center of the mass of water we were kayaking in, but when we chilled and I got lost in my taking pictures I always felt like I was going to flip over again and it deterred me from taking pictures whenever I wanted to. I know we have some good waters here in the MD area and want to be able to do more than just the shallow stream waterways and hit the wider waterways between the Susquehanna or Annapolis waters. WIth the present Old Town lineup I am torn between the Sorrento 126, which reviews has given me pause since it doesn't have the option for a scag and they say it has trouble tracking when there is wind, and the Loon 126sk which does have come with the scag, and an anchor, but I am not really tripping on getting an angler kayak, but guess I can't complain if it does all I want it to do AND give me the ability to take a rod out when I go out with my buddies that ARE All About fishing when they're out. Or, just stick with the Pungo 126, that I can put a rudder on, if I so chose down the line. And I also know I can get a waterproof skirt for when I have evolved on the water to get in more choppy water and take a roll or two.... So to that, your insight is greatly appreciated?
@jjlynn6161
@jjlynn6161 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. After watching several we ended up getting a Lifetime Teton Pro 116 12' sit on for my wife, and a Pelican Mustang 12' 120X EXO sit in for me. I was actually hoping for 14', but prices are up from last year and availability is down. We likely will most be on nearby lakes, rivers or sloughs. The real question is what are best mods for paddling, and not fishing. First purchased kayaks and didn't want to start with $1K+ models. A flag/360 white light seems like a good idea, but not seeing on many kayaking videos. Your thoughts?
@bcarss1970
@bcarss1970 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my 12 year old son (105 lbs) a Tamarack 10 footer and myself (250 lbs) a Yukon 12 footer last Spring. We have been in lakes, rivers, creeks, canals here in PA and in the bay backwater at the Jersey shore. Seats are good. Get a orange throw float for underneath. You won't regret the purchase.
@jpem86
@jpem86 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder which would be better for car top transportation? Seems like the Tamarack is a little more flat, still a tough call on which one to go with. I'm hopefully getting into a new kayak this spring. Thanks for the content!
@newyork1655
@newyork1655 2 жыл бұрын
tnku !!! Great , detailed explanation !
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 2 жыл бұрын
Most welcome 😊
@steves7271
@steves7271 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video as always. If you fancy it, I'd love to hear your thoughts on kayaks for kids. My son turns 10 next yr and I'd like to pick him up his 1st boat for the summer.
@Ethan-rz8qy
@Ethan-rz8qy 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME REVIEW Very in depth thank you!! :)
@SalvadorFrieri
@SalvadorFrieri 3 жыл бұрын
I’d get the crescent ultra light.
@jayl1052
@jayl1052 2 жыл бұрын
Great video . Very informative. Thumbs up.
@jeffreyhopkins4157
@jeffreyhopkins4157 3 жыл бұрын
You did a terrific job in your comparison of these two crafts. Me, I would definitely purchase the FeelFree over the Tamarack Pro. For the difference in price, which is only a couple of hundred dollars, you get the added security of stability and drainage. You also have the foundation for a rudder system. Standing up needs to have secure confidence with the rider, which I don't believe you will have with the Pro. The Pro to me is a bit too cheesy for my liking. I think for a Kayak that does not have a pedal system, the FeelFree gives you a great bang for your buck. A few years ago I purchased a Field & Stream Talon for very close to the same price (about $50 less) which I have since sold. It had stability problems, and I got sick and tired of getting wet. If it was choppy in the Bay, it would load up with water. Or if you leaned a bit too far to either side, you were going for a roll. I rolled it 3 or 4 times so I’m really into stability. Thank you for a great comparison job. - Jeffeo
@iowamatt2519
@iowamatt2519 3 жыл бұрын
U must have a good Editor making these videos. I/ve had a moken 10 for years and it handle my 275 and gear as good as any boat I've owned. It's also great in class 1 and 2 rivers.
@robjurbala84
@robjurbala84 3 жыл бұрын
Honest reviews, even if you don't sell the kayak. Honesty IS the best policy. 👍👍
@mortschubert3909
@mortschubert3909 3 жыл бұрын
They look great, both of them. I would take the one to the right as it seems I would be more comfortable in it. But, for a number of reasons, I can only use an inflatable kayak; would you say one such variant is good for a solo one-month trip on a big river?
@hculebro
@hculebro 3 жыл бұрын
Great review...thank you
@mycapstone
@mycapstone 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on the comparison.
@largemouthbassman5628
@largemouthbassman5628 2 жыл бұрын
Feel free kayaks are solid. I bought one long time ago and love it.
@alanfrye2706
@alanfrye2706 3 жыл бұрын
Feel free customer support makes this a no Brainer. Feel free every day all day. Loved mine for 5 years. Finally went all in with a 21' bay boat, but I miss my lure 13.5 every time I fill up the tank.
@Baltamore.the.chosen.
@Baltamore.the.chosen. 3 жыл бұрын
I have a lifetime Tioga and I’ve had expensive kayaks and I love my new Tioga ..!! For the price it’s very nice and fast on water has great balance I tried flipping it by rivking it hard and literally very hard to flip it.!
@MrBob121582
@MrBob121582 Жыл бұрын
7:50. If you unlock the seat clips and lean back you can access the tackle box storage.
@randystone4903
@randystone4903 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a used ATAK 12 by Wilderness Systems I'm anxious to get on the water. Inspired by Kayak Catfishing I'm getting tips on affordable modifications instead of really expensive store bought ones. The $2,200 electric trolling motor is not in my fishing budget when I can attach a regular trolling motor for a couple of hundred. I hope the built in wheel and keel showed will become an industry standard.
@dw4897
@dw4897 10 ай бұрын
I would wait for the more expensive one. Hoping to get my first kayak just before spring next year.
@dbradford32
@dbradford32 3 жыл бұрын
They are both really good kayaks. But this is really helpful!
@thesunofgod7896
@thesunofgod7896 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I’ve been watching your vids for a while determining my 1st kayak purchase to best fit my needs (no experience kayaking). I want do a lot of river fishing and would like a kayak to take gear for camping excursions but mostly day fishing. I narrowed it down to the Cresent Lite Tackle, Big Fish 120, and Native Watercraft Slayer 12 XC. I’ve also considered the Lure 11.5 and Bonafide SS 127. I originally wanted to go with the Big Fish 120 due to the cathedral hull design and price point but upon further looking into I’m leaning more towards the Native Slayer XC due to features and storage. There isn’t much videos on the Native Slayer XC for reviews and hull design and I’m indecisive on which to go for. I’m 5’7” 285lb so stability is key for me... I won’t be taking it much on huge lakes (maybe once I get it) or the ocean just small streams and rivers ( very shallow at times). I know it’s sort of trial and error to see what is ideal for me and my preference but I want to know if you think the Native Slayer 12 XC is a go to for stability (is it cathedral/tri-hull?). Or out of the ones I mentioned which would you recommend? Price doesn’t matter to me if I choose the best one.
@jasonwall3591
@jasonwall3591 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video bro!...could not get tom hanks out of my head though 🤣
@Patrick-it8nk
@Patrick-it8nk 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I was JUST about to leave a comment along the lines of that. I need this man to do some regular Tom Hanks impressions!
@zachjachino2385
@zachjachino2385 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review of the ascend 10t or hear your thoughts on the ascend line.
@brianchrusciel7822
@brianchrusciel7822 3 жыл бұрын
Or the 12t would be cool to see a review on
@wordhog61
@wordhog61 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think he does reviews anymore.
@Jakecooks
@Jakecooks 2 жыл бұрын
I like the 649 one, I am looking to get a fishing kayak very soon.
@crucifyrobinhood
@crucifyrobinhood 3 жыл бұрын
7:39 Seats are a total dealmaker/breaker. it's the second thing I look for after length. Anything over ten feet is too big for a lot of the water I fish but If I feel like I've been in a car crash after 8 hours in the boat dat no goot.
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