Mishkutenok & Dmitriev (RUS) - 1994 Winter Games, Figure Skating, Pairs' Technical Program

[@nvrlm]

Best death spiral in the history of pairs skating ever!!!! Natalia’s line and Arthur’s pivot just incredible

[@susanv.7540]

Artur's strength and power, Natalia's grace and elegance, and their incredible unison in their spins and jumps all make this one of my favorite performances of all time.

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Здесь прыжки непрочен здесь все синхронно красивые выбросы элегантное исполнение всех элементов

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Тодес какой тодес

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Поддержка оболдеть

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Главное уровень исполнения4

[@cecilewhite1897]

Gorgeous program!

[@patinart2010]

Moskvina makes me chuckle! She truly is one of the greatest coaches of all time!

[@diegoubarte5474]

That was just AWESOME!!!!! What an amazing performance. Thanks KZbin.... There are things worth watching over and over

[@joemachunda]

Artur is the best male skater in pairs. NATALIA is the most dynamic. U S judge is full of it!

[@richat30]

This is a brilliant program - wonderful unity of music, choreography and costumes. Plus the exciting elements. The lift is incredible but looks risky, so does the side-by-side spin where they got precariously close together. In my opinion they deserved even higher marks.

[@saraken9718]

What a fun, exquisite performance! Bravo 👏🏻

[@yuliaverbitskaya1549]

Прекрасное выступление! Браво спортсмены, браво Тамарочка Москвина!

[@annl.6928]

They are both so beautiful! I am an old woman and have been watching Olympics my entire life. This performance by Mishkutenok and Dmitriev is my favorite performance of anyone ever. Their good looks, outstanding athleticism,beautiful costumes, music, and choreography will - in my estimation - never be matched. It is sad that so many rumors and drama followed them off-ice, but in a twisted sort of way, it added to the mystique. How I would love to see them perform again!! Thanks to KZbin, at least the past can be revisited.

[@ИринаБалконныйсадовод]

у артура самый красивущий заход на тодес! супер спортсмен гениальной тамарочки!

[@libertango4475]

Natalia looked so beautiful! Wow! They were amazing!

[@rickysikes1631]

I like these two better than all the others.

[@MagsChase1229]

Yes, still stunned by Scott and (Verne’s) inappropriate comments. Scott said after it was over, “Beyond all expectations “ ………he forgot…M&D won the gold in 1992. Think before you blurt out words! Grinkov collapsing and his death 18 mos later was beyond all expectations. God Bless all 4 of these skaters!

[@yasmina8564]

Thank you.💐There is no word. Very very beautiful. 🤩💓I wonder who gave negative to this incredible performance???!!!!😲😐☹️

[@AmusedChild]

My heart was in my mouth watching this program after the week they had. Excellent.

[@patriciacook7105]

I always love watching them! Loved the Russian skaters

[@uncchristine99]

Wonderful performance by M&D. I love how Artur just collapsed at the end... that is HEART! They had more speed and confidence with every step--I remember feeling such vindication for them after all the bad press and all the naysayers. To me, they did enough to win but like Scott said, it just depends on your taste. I love G&G sitting in the crowd showing their support. Ah, the golden days of Russian pairs!

[@CEKCooking]

Gordeeva and Grinkov are indeed perfect. However, Mishutenok & Dmitriev's routine are innovative and they are always very exciting to watch. I am totally drawn to M&D's performance.

[@e2theeyepie]

I love Tamara Moskvina and her interviews.

[@worldpeace9522]

Wow! What a performance!

[@ГалинаТитова-т1б]

Благодарю Вас Дай Бог Вам Здоровья и Удачи во всем Счастья Любви Радости. Огромное спасибо Вам за прекрасное видео и Танцы Шедевр. Всего самого наилучшего вам в жизни Успехов во всем. Берегите себя. Галина.

[@karennoble4957]

Wonderful performance to the great music of Don Quichote. Both technically and artistically and what an energy. First time i see them and wow!! Thank you! But i feel G&G were flowing more smoothly, more soulful, and lots of Love there between them.

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Вот они гениальны просто уникум

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Какая мощь сила скорость это что то

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Ох ох

[@FfFf-qi8ze]

Наташа прима

[@ЛклалВддавл]

Катать такую программу надо облалать зорошей тезникой артистизмом силой ведь у жтой пары еше и скорость

[@lisaedge8896]

un des plus beaux programmes depuis toujours...

[@ravenel2]

I wish people could just appreciate what happened here in 1994 because we will never see a pair competition like that again. Such a waste of time to nitpick and tear down the top three, because you are never going to be able to compare them. Maybe all Olympic skating should be divided into modern technical/jumping events and traditional ballet/artistic events because what you are seeing now is people who think Nancy Kerrigan was boring, that Oksana didn’t jump, and think Tonya Harding was robbed of some kind of Olympic gold medal that she never earned. Not everyone can skate the same way or have the same body size, and we don’t want everyone to skate the same way. G&G and M&D deserved Olympic gold medals for what they did in Lillehammer, compared to what you see from pairs most other years, and B&I did as well. In a field of dozens of the best pairs in the world, would it really kill anyone to hand out three gold, three silver and three bronze? Or at least three gold, no silver, and no bronze when the circumstances warrant-like here? It is true that without the pros B&I would have won gold. I’m tired of people ripping one or the other down when all three were spectacular.

[@terrilandis4561]

They were my favorite!

[@AT-jm4dl]

WTH is wrong with the U.S. judge ? A 5.6 from him for presentation ? He was also low for them in the LP. Ugh.

[@metsdudenj]

THis program was definitely second place worthy, even with the technical flaw in G G program, this program lacked speed, edges and the flow of GG, plus they used the same program from 1992, you would think they would use a new program, they definitely deserved to place 2 here

[@LISZTIZATION]

metsdudenj - SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ALLOWED TO COMPETE THE SAME PROGRAM, AUTOMATIC LOSS IF THEY DO.......

[@nikavance9453]

LISZTIZATION Hahaha, totally! Now go and tell Yuzuru about your idea :D

[@mellekerber6011]

Oksana Baiul... same program three seasons straight... it was already a repeat when she started winning with it.

[@MsRumex]

@@LISZTIZATION what about Jamie Salé & David Pelletier? They also used old program in 2002 and won.

[@LISZTIZATION]

@@MsRumex SAME SHOULD APPLY FOR ANYONE WHO IS SO LAME THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH A NEW PROGRAM AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, ACTUALLY, MY OPINION IS NO PROGRAM SHOULD EVER BE PERFORMED MORE THAN ONCE, EVEN ON TOUR, THEY HAVE ALL DAY TO COME UP WITH A NEW PERFORMANCE FOR THE EVENING SHOW..... SO AS YOU CAN SEE MY OPINION OF SOMEONE PERFORMING THE SAME PROGRAM YEAR AFTER YEAR IS THAT THEY ARE BEYOND LAME !!! IF A SKATER HAS TO HIT 50 CITIES ON TOUR, THEY SHOULD REHEARSE FOR WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS TILL THEY HAVE 50 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO PERFORM, AND I ALREADY KNOW THAT NO ONE WILL AGREE WITH ME, SO SAVE YOUR TYPEWRITER INK........ !!!

[@signorinakitty]

sempre più convinta: dovevano vincere loro!!! pieni di grinta, forza, potenza, bravura tecnica, gesto atletico, tutto avevano in questo programma per non parlare di quello lungo...mai visti così ispirati.....

[@Thurubilov]

💯🤝👌🔥

[@bophreyhumgart2953]

How amazing that their performance was so impactful that we're still commenting on it today. It never occurred to me to wonder before now how it was that they were able to use the same short program for both the '92 and '94 Olympics. I would think that it would be required for them to change the program at least a little bit.

[@intldawn]

Those marks were bullshit. I get why G&G were higher but 5.5, 5.6? Nah

[@msmo2060]

Those marks were way too low

[@ЛклалВддавл]

Как они дердаться боже какое самообладание у пебят молодцы какие

[@А_32-в4я]

Какая же она тяжёлая.. Партнёр её, как штангу поднимает.. Выходят Катя и Сергей - и дыхание замирает.. Две птицы, парящие надо льдом.. Катя и Сергей несравнимы ни с кем! Это магия..

[@scottyz333]

Almost 30 years later, I still have a problem with Scott referring to Natalia as a “big girl.” I have seen her skate in person years ago and by now means was she a “big girl.” I love both teams, but M&D should have won in ‘94.

[@el7jake]

Well, she definitely wasn't small, and I'm sure it took more strength to lift her that it took to lift Ekaterina, who could certainly be described as petite

[@user-ub9cm2xf2c]

Наталья замечательная! Бесконечно женственная, пластичная, красивая. А Скотт не видел красивых женщин.

[@olgapechorina6747]

​@@el7jakeну да,я не очень разделяю восторги по поводу Гордеевой-Гринькова.Вот у Тамары Николаевны каждая пара с изюминкой,со своими "фишечками",как и пара Селезнева -Макаров,хотя ни одна из паотнерш не была миниатюрной.Да,у Кати и Сергея все чистенько,причесано,но все привычно и банально,хотя их антропометрия прямо просила придумать для них что-нибудь индивидуальное,что не делает больше никто,да еще с таким тренером-выдуищиком,как С.А.Жук!

[@Bnizzofashizzo]

Did he say " she is a big girl?" WTF?

[@bophreyhumgart2953]

What I read about Artur and Natalya splitting was a little different: that they had had little success as pros and that after their second Olympics she was tired of competition and decided to retire.

[@gracewilliams338]

Hammersmark Why so rude? Very gentlemen like. Not!

[@cleosmom7]

she had a hard time keeping her weight down which is important in pairs skating especially at that time.

[@imcavdb5465]

Listen to what he sayd...: "She is a big girl.... Katia Gordeeva is a small girl." Meaning she is bigger than Katia. Most women are bigger than Katia. Being a fat woman myself... this wasn't a weight comment. 🌸🌺🌸

[@siridh1]

For a pairs skater, she was a big girl. Its just fact.

[@sandracarli1110]

They looked so plump compared to G&G.

[@whitecat3923]

LOOK AT YOURSELF!!!! 🙈😅👎🏼👎🏼

[@laurielynne2006]

It’s both of their natural body types. More muscular, NOT plump! World class athletes who are strong and powerful. She is not a big girl as Scott H says. She weighs 110 lbs. hardly plump or big. I hate how society views muscular athletes as fat. Like Serena Williams. She is solid muscle. She can run circles around every hater on the court. Not everyone is “thin” or has the societal ideal slim body. That would be boring.

[@olgalitvinenko4589]

Да нет слов выразить артистизм этих золотых ребят.

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Как ие,находки,переходы,все,красиво,

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Восхищаюсь,

[@sgsmozart]

5.6 from the US judge!..Awful!

[@whitecat3923]

That was a "norm" by almost every American judge about all skaters from USSR to that time!!!! 😉😏

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Красиво,Наташа,зделмлс,поддержку,очень,красиво,

[@НатальяМалая-б1и]

Ну ты и грамотей.

[@espinaca79]

They were soooo beautiful!!!

[@alexiacaceda1421]

I think they deserved gold in this olimpics, they don't have the same level of chemestry as g/g but they were flawless technically and artistically. G/G were taking their skating to another level so they would have probably won the next one.

[@ЛклалВддавл]

Правла такое великолепие невстретишь здесь все тонко на грани

[@ЕленаКретова-т7ш]

Лучшие ! Браво!

[@СловноФеникс]

Лучшие Катя и Серёжа!

[@Murka.Z]

@@СловноФеникс Субъективно! На данной Олимпиаде они начали сдавать и уступать, их Олимпиада была в Калгари, а на этой должны были быть Мишкутёнок и Дмитриев победителями!

[@Thurubilov]

​@@Murka.Z, м-да!.. Судьба-злодейка...

[@ЛклалВддавл]

Феноменальные элементы пара феноменальная

[@nadiarodriguez4834]

What did you say Scott? that Mishkutenok & Dmitriev were competing with "perfection"? oh please, Gordeeva & Grinkov were everything but perfection in this Olympic games. Even the crowd knew M&D were underscored in this short program (and even more in the long). #Robbed

[@ulyanagur253]

Мне кажется Дмитрьев вечно в чулках катался, мне не нравилось это. Гордеева -Гриньков лучшие :)))))

[@MsRumex]

Жулин тоже в балетных чулках часто катался. И они приблизительно в те же года катались Может это мода такая была?

[@ulyanagur253]

@@MsRumex наверно

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Это два раза направление не может 2 одинаковых парк кататься делать то же самое но это же ты задира роботы

[@ЖаннаБилида]

Тут вот писали по поводу про извольной програмы на той олимпиаде…а мне все равно эта пара выглядела тяжеловато и Гордеева и Гриньков были лучшими и программа их смотрелась вдохновленнее и красивее

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

люди же бывают что две пары не могут быть как близнецы копировать друг друга естественно это друзья фигура и у тебя другая программа и другие заслушаться

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Правильно,писали,к,Наташи,иптткоа,была,красивая,программа,

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Зпжвшаюь,публику,браво,их,кредо,зажигмть

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Артур,сттист чен

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Программа,отличная,катание,высшее,унику м,

[@Alex-Astashov]

Произвольную программу выиграли Мишкутёнок - Дмитриев. На 100%. Их катание выше по сложности и качеству,чем у Гордеевой и Гринькова. К тому же ГГ сделали много ошибок, Гриньков чуть не упал, Гордеева приземлилась на две ноги, но судьи этого " не заметили". Вот вам и субъективное отношение.

[@СловноФеникс]

Чтобы писать такие отзывы нужно разбираться в фигурном катании!

[@А_32-в4я]

Если бы Катенька и Сергей просто бы проехались по льду - это было бы уже эстетическим наслаждением. Какие ошибки? Наплевать. Этой штанге Мушкетенок до Кати, как до Луны.

[@MrAdrianaangel]

Well, since they all live above the 49th parallel, it is to be expected they would be masters of ice :)

[@jonathanpartridge6821]

Artistically this is so much more uplifting than G&G’s, whose choice of music was a complete non-entity imo

[@gracewilliams338]

Nancy Martinelli No more than no one cares about yours.

[@gracewilliams338]

Nancy Martinelli Why are you so rude?

[@blaithin83]

I just care about the opinion of the judges who put G&G first. Above everybody, even with some little mistakes.

[@louislocke]

Having watched all of M &D's programs I can find here on youtube in their 94 Olympic season, and reading up on the stories abt Natalia's coping with her own problems, I have a lot of respect for her performance here. Artur was as good as ever, though you can tell that he wasn't as sure as he had been before. Tamara Moskvina really cracked me up, but whatever the case her hypnotizing worked well.

[@EmmaTav]

She's a "big girl"? Really, Scott?

[@wingsandash]

You know, Scott never - and I mean never - would say anything intended to be offensive. Gordeeva is tiny. She's relatively 'big' in comparison only. That's pretty much what he was referring to. Things like height and weight change the equation in skating, as physics play an important part here.

[@felicityneale5703]

"SHE is a big girl", says Scott Hamilton. That guys's obsession with Katia Gordeeva causes him to be insulting to her competitors. He's a desperado.

[@bophreyhumgart2953]

Natalia was definitely a larger WOMAN than Katia, who is actually quite tiny. Artur is obviously quite a strong guy, but it had to be more difficult to lift someone of Natalia's size than Katia's. He obviously had great admiration for both pairs. What's the big deal?

[@toxic-low-key-ghost7934]

@@bophreyhumgart2953 Its a big deal because why is he even commenting on someone's physical size? hes a figure skating commentator not a doctor examining her. It was totally irrelevant. He is just obsessed with katia and will do anything to make her appear better than everyone else. How would you like it if someone, on live television, while you were skating, called you a big girl. wtf

[@rickram1961]

I loathe the way how Scott Hamilton gushes over G & G

[@LiamForeman]

Tamara Moskvina is such a trip. "I looked into their eyes and saw that they were sober". I bet she never saw that look before ever and never would again. LOL. And yeah, Natalia is all of 110#. Big girl? You should see her now.

[@biancahotca3244]

She doesn't speak English well. None of the Russians do. There English is very poor. Katia's as well. Sergei didn't seem to know a word. How did you know Natalia's weight? Maybe she was more. I think her build was just more chunky, muscular. Katia was obv. very thin. She was probably no more than 95 lbs. but her frame is slight as well

[@keithvnumber1]

I didn't get to watch the final because we were at a family members house for dinner. I did record it though. Needless to say I was devastated they lost. Many would say Anton & Elena won with flaws against a mistake free program of their opponents so it's ok because G&G were superior team. I disagree. M&D are no slouches. Everyone couldn't say enough about their artistry and skills 2 years before. In E&A's case they really were years ahead of the other team in talent & skill. They deserved the gold. With G&G they made enough mistakes I feel to have been given silver. Trust me Sale & Pelletier are no where near the level of M&D so they did not deserve gold.

[@ХудожникнаСевере]

На поддержки посмотрите у Г/Г и у М/Д! Это ж небо и земля! У первых лёгкость исполнения, на одной руке, у вторых всё натужно и две руки. В конце программы упал Дмитриев. Заход партнерши в тодесе явно на стороне Гордеевой. Так что нормально им выше поставили оценки.

[@larisaidrisova39]

Вес и рост у Межкутенок больше при одинаковом росте партнеров, естественно усилий нужно больше. Но то, что Артур упал, селяви.Вроде и в тему но всп таки упал

[@ЛИЛЯУРАЛЬСКАЯ-н5с]

Обе пары великие, спасибо им красоту и мастерство, за победы. Просто они разные, у ГГ классическое фигурное катание: быстрое, лёгкое, порой воздушное парение, окрашенное невероятной нежностью друг к другу. А МД яркая спортивная пара, исполняющая классную акробатику на льду. Обе пары уникальны по-своему.

[@bindi06]

I've always liked Scott & yes, he was good friends with G&G & they toured together with his ice show. But, I was a little dismayed with his comments about Natalia's body size. Calling her a "big girl" was out of order & comparing her to Katia's size: BOO-HISS! He tried not to show it, but his favoritism toward G&G was very obvious during his remarks & so unprofessional. Don't get me wrong, I like BOTH pairs , but M&D should have won gold here & Scott's commentary throughout: Disappointing!

[@toxic-low-key-ghost7934]

He had a weird obsession with katia and would do anything to make her look good. Why be a commentator if you cant hide your favoritism. Utterly disgusting. Scott was alwaysssss biased, here it was probably at its worst but he could never shut up.

[@ЗвездапоимениСолнце-т5ж]

Это короткая, а произвольная была обалденная, до сих пор помню!

[@СловноФеникс]

Акробатика была, а нужно катание!

[@ВдадимирЧепиков]

Катание,и,было,,на высшем,им,все,пожcтлу,все,

[@sherylejeffers9491]

You people who think M&D could ever beat G&G are off the wall..You act like you have trained eyes to judge....I love M&D too but they could never beat G&G..and if you call M&D graceful my god get glasses....M&D have still some learning to do...and I am sure they will.... maybe 1998 will be their year....!

[@gracewilliams338]

Canadian pair just had no chance.

[@suzannesmith8320]

The Russians do everything best even the falling!

[@officeaddict33]

@EmmaTav - Horrible thing to say. Bad Scott. But you know he adored Katia so he was biased.

[@rubym357]

Which tracks of Don Quixote did they use from Ludwig Minkus' ballet? BTW, I thought their performance was more exciting than G&G's. Katya Gordeeva is 5'1", Ntalaya Mishkutenok is 5'2 1/2". Natalya is slim and muscular UP CLOSE (nothing wrong with her) but Katya has a ballerina build with virtually no leg muscle and a slimmer waist. Scott was kind of annoying, but I knew how much he liked G&G during their initial SOI run, so I expected it.

[@bophreyhumgart2953]

It really says something about the quality of skating that we're still watching these programs so many years later, doesn't it? I happen to agree with you, Katrina, about the more exciting qualities of the routines of Mishkutenok and Dmitriev. I always thought of their skating as much more dynamic and inventive than that of Gordeeva and Grinkov. When Scott Hamilton called some of G&G's movements "textbook," I think that that was another difference between the two pairs: that G&G chose to focus on perfection of standard movements (throw spins, pair spins, jumps, lifts, etc.), while the other pair always managed to bring us something different and unique to admire. I remember Artur saying that in his opinion, the main difference between the two pairs was their influence: one from the Bolshoi Ballet and the other from the Moscow Ballet, although I don't remember which was which. And I always felt that what drove Artur and his partners was his passion and drama, which you can certainly see at the end of this routine, with his falling over in relief at the end of this program and his ripping his heart out and the ecstatic leap at the end of the long program.

[@karennoble4957]

Ruby Marlowe, the music, mostly the beautiful Grand pas de deux of the ballet Don quichote.

[@eleonorrojas2057]

SERGEI ❤️‍🩹EKATERINA 💝

[@karenmarshall2045]

Not negating this performance, but how many years did they use this program?

[@Bogumia-nq7sd]

❤❤❤

[@LiamForeman]

I understand the ordinals and the marks are just placeholders, but what in the world is that US judge doing giving the reigning Olympic champions a 5.6/5.6 for a clean and dynamic program????? The US judge gave G/G 5.8/5.9 for a flawed program. Unreal. The fix was in, and yeah Scott's typical biased commentary as per usual... Everything with M/D Scott grudgingly gave some credit for, but it was still coming out in an uncomplimentary way. When they play back G/G's blown sbs spins Scott is still effusive with compliments on how wonderful this is because they ended up after about five revs to get back in sync and Scott effuses "QUALITY AND EXCELLENCE!!" I never picked up on how unprofessional and biased he was back then. He is horrid to listen to.

[@tvfanatic14]

Liam Foreman Yeah the British was definitely hating big time with that 5.5 mark.

[@nadiarodriguez4834]

I remember reading an interview with the US judge (a woman, don't remember her name) and she was just IN LOVE with G&G. So enamored the article said that she barely notice (come on, she just ignored) the glitches during their performances. M&D didn't stand a chance with that kind of judging.

[@starsmoon0216]

Wow. I agree and remember watching both of their performances. As much as I loved G&G, M&D should have won gold. Obvious bias from several judges put M&D behind the 8-ball. Totally unfair and corrupt judging!!!!

[@rsmparade43]

Agree completely. I was getting so irritated with Scott's biased commentary that I almost took the sound off! I truly believe that Mishkutenok & Dmitriev were cheated out of the Gold medal in Lillehammer. As much as I like Gordeeva and Grinkov, I think that Mishkutenok & Dmitriev were far better than them in this performance!

[@sherylejeffers9491]

Nadia Rodriguez ...BULLSHIT...G&G beat them fair and square....and always would...M&D as much as i like them are not graceful like G&G and thus the higher scores...and G&G have a more difficult program thus the higher scores...

[@НатальяМалая-б1и]

Завалился от чувствс.

[@DustRhinosFan]

Does anyone know the title of this music?

[@e2theeyepie]

Selections from the ballet Don Quixote (by Minkus)

[@Linguistador]

I'd give them the gold just for the spin at 4:50 alone!

[@rickysikes1631]

I never liked them as well as others. She is so tiny that he has no problem lifting her.

[@ЛклалВддавл]

Противно когда пусские так негативно относяться к русскимм стараться унизить оскорбить то не такижто ни эдак ни такиестественно и не эдак они жемвсе разные

[@НатальяМалая-б1и]

А Гордеева - спичка.

[@Ганналучків-г8е]

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[@АлександрЕвстифеев-ж8к]

Их засудили

[@SonOfAGun1814]

she's a big girl ppppppppppppppp