3D Bee's Oranos Is BUSTED!!! Ranked Age of Mythology Retold Gameplay

[@carlspangler9278]

Bee is my favorite. I love this guy's play so much. He had SO much favor this game. he must have had 10 oracles with upgrades at all times to afford heroizing almost every unit, rebuilding caladria, recasting chaos, and sparse satyr. I'm feeling real inspired right now.

[@heedlesschicken4420]

The turtle and fast age up style doesn't work against Atlantean now. Ceding map control just allows them to generate favor for days with oracles everywhere.

[@smockytubers1188]

Why can the man holding a stick run significantly faster than the guy standing on a wheeled cart pulled by a horse? Nobody knows.

[@mightymediocre3352]

Favoured by the gods obviously.

[@surgeonsergio6839]

The cart is too heavy for that tiny horse is my head canon.

[@Super_bandeclay]

oranos gives katapeltes cocaine

[@impacts6362]

They really don't tho lol there's plenty of different units with different speeds

[@Catatafish420]

Oranos has a speed buff for infantry units 10%

[@benjamincastro8077]

That's the most weird yet genius comp I've seen... Mass katapeltes and turmas heroes... First time I've seen that

[@lazaroskordas4397]

This should be a lesson to all egyptian players. THE DAYS OF MIGDOL BEING COMPLETELY BROKEN ARE NO MORE. Time for you to actually start using your brain when putting together your army comp.

[@mathieujacq6930]

Lol my favourite playstyle is barracks only anyway ;)

[@ociabi]

Broken no more as in it's not useless anymore?

[@kalorathekau]

Even though you lost this game, I'm glad you shared it! It's fun to not know the outcome of a game :). Despite how obnoxious it felt for you, I thought you looked very strong, for what it's worth! I couldn't tell who was going to win until very close to the end.

[@BoitTV]

I like sharing losses! If I play well and lose then it's probably a really good game :)

[@jackskellingtonsora]

Katapeltes definitely beat every migdol unit so you can't really go for anything there unfortunately.

[@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH]

Anything with counter-Cavalry damage melts Migdol at the moment, haha. I hope they fix it.

[@TorecAOM]

​@@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISHIt does not need a fix, thats what counter units are supposed to do. Just mix in cheap barrack units and you Will be surprised how good they are. axeman x5 va infantry and ppl sleeping on it

[@AHaber007]

@@TorecAOM Nah, counterunits are way too strong in RETOLD. Game is much less fun right now. Just sweaty counterpicking, thats all. Same with Axeman 5x times bonus is too much. Hypaspists 375% Multi changed to 500%, Axeman 400% Multi changed to 500%, Katapeltes 300% Multi changed to 400%. Old values very totally fine and much more healthy for the game.

[@jackskellingtonsora]

​@@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH One of the big problems is chariots being marked as cavalry and archers instead of just archers.

[@impacts6362]

Its funny how the amount of ppl sleeping on the Axeman even when they recently got buffed 😂

[@Flamamacue]

Does the divine damage of Electrum Bullets stack with the multiplier of Slings of the Sun? If it does I feel like they would shred katapeltes + turma

[@georgetibbitts6025]

To my knowledge it does

[@BoitTV]

Slingers would have been perfect.

[@iamnotmatt]

The Katapeltes just sliced through those elephants like butter. The x4 multiplier is no joke.

[@WlSH879]

It was only recently I found out the "hf" in "gl hf" didn't mean "high five"

[@biggali]

Don't Ptah + Sekhmet slingers just beat everything except cavalry?

[@murrayoversby5609]

Interesting match, I don't blame you for going chariots because they counter katapeltes in theory. I think this only works for Atlantean if they have the favor to keep casting chaos and shockwave

[@lukablesic8617]

Rapl played game yesterday on his stream against Bee and Rapl did same strat as you and Bee also did the same strat. Rapl then analysed game on his stream. I think you should cast that game.

[@BoitTV]

It's coming! :)

[@NotFlappy12]

What would he have done if you went full spears? Maybe some axes mixed in. Spears beat katapeltes, and shred turma. He doesn't have any hard counters except fanatics (or myth units).

[@robayedislamratul5772]

But Then he will make Arcus? But i think he should have gone for axeman when he saw those katapeltis

[@NotFlappy12]

@@robayedislamratul5772 Arcus don't kill spears all that fast. If he had Horus spearmen, they would get on top of the Arcus in no time, and shred right through them. Not to mention: he can always make different units. Slingers, camele, chariots, and elephants all destroy Arcus even more so than spears do

[@kennethng7922]

@@NotFlappy12 Bro you know Arcus has 20 range right. They will melt those spear before they even walk up to them. Also Since he focus on turma, all the arcus will be fully upgrade already if he pump them out while Boit has to upgrade his infantry line separately

[@jameslindsay2950]

@@NotFlappy12 they certainly melt spearman, unless your spears are champion Horus and the archer is classic

[@EzioAuditore-xj1dq]

do you think spearmen/axemen can survive under the Satyr?

[@julz3884]

How come i dont have the sheep garrison button on my tc? Is there a setting i have to turn on?

[@Don_Artie]

Problem about needing axeman is that chaos just murders them, they kill each other so fast in a chaos cast

[@lothar3073]

Chaos needs to be deleted from the game.

[@33mavboy]

@@lothar3073 Its cost should be increased to 150 on its second use, its more effective than pigs and cost less, last nerf was nothing, chaos hard to avoid, very cringe ability

[@kennethng7922]

Chaos + shockwave is just too spammable.

[@jochembraad1760]

Do chariot archers / turma also count as cavery? What about going few axeman with camalriders against this army ?

[@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH]

They do both count as Cavalry as of Retold but they don't benefit from Cavalry upgrades.

[@pablolimbo3195]

Isnt Hero Oracles suposse to build Sky passages aswell? It is said in the description of the god but i cannot find out i it would be amazing :(

[@theowlogram888]

That was in the patch they had for the Redbull playoff but not everything in it (including this one change) made it to the patch we actually got.

[@pablolimbo3195]

@@theowlogram888 that would incredibly amazing (and overpowered)

[@juanluisdecamino963]

I think the oranos guy got a LOT of value from the cheaper and faster recast on GPs relic with how many chaos he used

[@lothar3073]

I think the main issue is: Even if you play the correct counter units Chaos just makes said counter units kill each other. Chaos needs a complete rework.

[@33mavboy]

yeah its lame, makes the game less interesting, for the majority

[@Disa_SterTV]

does bee stream ?

[@dr.ludwig8189]

Why are you producing only Cavalry despite him producing only Counter-Cavalry?

[@TorecAOM]

I can't believe u didnt mix barrack units earlier, 22 min in you start doing it lol. Ppl complaining against this game, Boit was playing only charriots vs turma and katapeltas what did you expect? 😂

[@Gabriel-mf7wh]

@@TorecAOM right, and to be quite honest Boit was laming a bit. Fast mythic into half cost, mass chariot archers... Come on. I'm kind of glad such a crazy strat worked against it

[@masterlucarion]

How did they have so many heroes?

[@TheBrewery23]

Boit help me understand why you'd go max CA against katapeltes instead of axemen vs them and then transition into CA later and then elephants. He's building turma and katapeltes O_o Maybe instead, axemen/slinger?

[@BoitTV]

Legacy habits mostly. This army would have beaten his army in legacy.

[@TheBrewery23]

@@BoitTV alas the learning curve of a new (ish) game.

[@tobuu2326]

Did you find a counter yet ? xD I just played against this but my enemy went for a lot of Promethean in addition to mass turma and katapeltes. I played Isis and had no idea what to do, barack units got melted by Promethean's my chariots got Chaos + Shockwaved every 90s and I could not raid bc of the passages or build myth units bc he has so many heros... btw I really dont like the unit speed in this game. Cav should not be outrun by melee units Edit: I just tried Oranos in custom to see how he works and then went into ranked and forgot to swap back to egyptians, so I played Oranos basically the first time against poseidon and did just what I explained above and it was actually so easy wtf ...

[@BoitTV]

Priest siege! (maybe)

[@tobuu2326]

@@BoitTV will try that the next time. I also thought about a super early classical fight before the oranos can get a critical mass of units out and be able to find the oracles

[@BoitTV]

@@tobuu2326 Yes! Aggro classic fight with bast into a anc+eclipse timing to finish it off! Bit hard to chase the turma down though.

[@Sam-es2gf]

3:25 internal monologue of a single 35 year old woman

[@Rb61926]

The Atla heroes don't cost any additional population either

[@alirezazanjani8933]

What would be different if you were Ra in this match?

[@BoitTV]

Son of Osiris would be a huge help but I think Horus is the better call. In fact I should have gone Horus in this game as well rather than Thoth. Sehkmet as well.

[@galaxyknuckles9000]

Spearmen/slinger/chariot

[@Catatafish420]

Turma probably counter chariot archers also

[@TorecAOM]

@@Catatafish420 not probably, they indeed counter archers so yes. Turma Beats charriot

[@eaalders628]

You were lacking axemen, I think if you had an axeman meatshield you would have crushed his army

[@manusabu5839]

Avengers is good counter right

[@kalorathekau]

Not in this situation; Bee had a lot of heroes in his army, even many of his Katapeltes

[@impacts6362]

To be fair u didnt have all your mythic blacksmith upgrades either tho

[@Gabriel-mf7wh]

LOL I can't believe he went full katapeltes turma!!!

[@TorecAOM]

againts charriots? yea .. cant believe It lol

[@Super_bandeclay]

that's waht you do against eggy

[@noaccount4]

14:14 loved the mongolian horde micro

[@CH0RUS]

lol, you call that micro? Check Korean Starcraft players...thats micro

[@noaccount4]

@@CH0RUS it's okay to have more positivity friend, just because you have tasted a michelin star cake doesn't mean you can't appreciate a chocolate cake your best mate baked

[@sanic15]

@@CH0RUS always a loser sc player in the comments

[@jackroper1848]

Maybe you should have played Ra mate, Oranos is actually fine and perfectly balanced.

[@aelix56]

I thought they added bee units with that title 😂

[@georgetibbitts6025]

Nice effort, I think you were too slow to adapt to his composition. Going Horus would have made a lot of sense against what he had. But to be sure, he had like every unit heroized and still cast like 3 chaos. They really need to increase the favor cost of heroes because you just can’t make myth units against atty and that’s lame

[@noaccount4]

tbf Oranos had a million hero oracles gaining favour all over the map

[@Kvh47]

To be honest even while watching instead of playing I cant figure out what units would have worked against his katapeltes + Turma's. Only thing i can think of is slings of the sun Slingers, but Boit didnt go Sekhmet.

[@smockytubers1188]

@@noaccount4 I have never seen a competent player lose with Atlantis when the other player cedes map control like this. Oracles are the worst when things are going poorly but if your opponent doesn't challenge them, the god powers are just way too strong. I'm in no position to backseat and certainly would have lost way faster than Boit but it's just an observation.

[@alessandrodellanno948]

​@@smockytubers1188 God powers way too strong? No. Just chaos and maybe the stun of oranos but that is peculiar to him. Atlateans are the one supposed to recast a bit more easily God powers. If you cede map control, atlanteans run you over, otherwise they don't do shit

[@alessandrodellanno948]

​@@Kvh47Just axe boy, infantry. They are all counter barracks and do shit damage to units they don't counter. Satyr could have been the problem so he should have bring priest too.

[@bananatheseus4516]

Atlantean heroes are way to busted now... + you get Oranos god power + Caos... is harsh righ now.. Also 6/8 atlantean military units are good or have bonus vs Charriot archers

[@SpaceWitch144]

I think turma and chaos did all the work. Catapeltes only killed elephants and tank.

[@thosethickstrings]

Katas are squishy

[@ManchmalGaming]

That's rough man!

[@hazza4751]

The kd was probably good for you actually because of how many of your own units you killed

[@FuncraftVideos]

just make spearmen????? hello?????

[@Jewels___]

Too late of a transition to axemen. Due to the chase mechanic kiting isn't a reliable mechanic most of the time

[@oneapratclown]

atty's buffs are a bit overtuned tbh

[@reginoldogiuseppe7457]

I'm sorry my man i think you just got prgnant from his maneuvers and exploits of the atlantean in the current meta

[@TohoBuWaha]

So you literally spam just one unit all game long and then lose to someone making hard counter units (for Katapeltes it's debatable, for Turma it's not) to it -> SO OBNOXIOUS, just spamming Chariots doesnt win the game Honestly I'd be upset if you won that game.

[@BoitTV]

Was a hard comp to beat for sure! I needed slingers!

[@dooposaur]

except chariot archers are a technical counter to katapeltes. the obnoxious part was the impact of multiple chaos + absurd infantry run speed

[@manwithapointystick3871]

​@@dooposaur I think that if wasn't for Oranos in particular, the chariot archers would have been much more effective against generic katapeltes. Oranos has access to technologies to increase heroes' speed, and through Oceanus it can further improve katapeltes' speed with weightless maces, making them an excellent counter to cavalry and faster myth units, if heroized. Once I coupled that with the relic that further increases hero speed and they reached 6.4 speed or something similar