3D printed fractal vise - The coolest tool you didn't know you needed

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@HandToolRescue
@HandToolRescue 3 жыл бұрын
I need one of these!
@Shreyam_io
@Shreyam_io 3 жыл бұрын
haaha
@mjbirdClavdivs
@mjbirdClavdivs 3 жыл бұрын
Talk to Michael. He might make you one for one of your Hand Tool Rescue wrenches. (I noticed that one of the other designs he looked at used an HTR wrench as the item to hold.)
@sentry4944
@sentry4944 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like everybody made fractal vises after your video.
@mortalwombat5811
@mortalwombat5811 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you're paying youtube for promoting your channel, but it's probably worth it. I was also recommended your fractal vice video out of the blue a few weeks ago, and have since subscribed and been enjoying your back catalog. You're doing amazing work.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
First time I had come across your channel and I was an instant fan. Great technical skill and humour. Needless to say your fractal vise video was very inspiriational.
@jsal92
@jsal92 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever says that Michael is "copying" videos of others needs to actually watch his videos. He references even the things he didn't try and links videos and files. Not to mention all the contributes he's made to open source projects. Stellar work Michael, thanks for getting me into 3d printing and design.
@oompalumpus699
@oompalumpus699 3 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to those kinds of people. Those are just kids itching to start drama. Michael referenced everything and gave credit properly.
@zirjaeger4037
@zirjaeger4037 3 жыл бұрын
showing what you copied is still copying
@jsal92
@jsal92 3 жыл бұрын
@@zirjaeger4037 yet there's a difference between plagiarism and referencing the original material, as seen in any research paper on anything
@sarahkatherine8458
@sarahkatherine8458 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever says that Michael is "copying", is basically saying that "I see people making X, so I want to make is myself" is bad. Also, I don't think this is "copying" because he do everything himself, from the designing to the printing, included tweaking. If you say that that is still "copying", well, we do that every *beeping* second.
@MrLexhoya
@MrLexhoya 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahkatherine8458 I may be late to this convo, but if we were not able to copy basic mechanisms, we would not be able to make new mechanisms. Most of them use some sort of previously designed base mechanisms. This is why I like books like 50x Mechanical Movements (Henry T Brown)
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 3 жыл бұрын
Okay now this is a must build project
@forbiddenera
@forbiddenera 3 жыл бұрын
Yess..saw the original video and..yess
@RazzleberryHaze
@RazzleberryHaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@forbiddenera same here, seems like all the DIYers and makers got recommended the same vid and now want the same object
@breakthecode4634
@breakthecode4634 3 жыл бұрын
@@RazzleberryHaze yea, the algorithm knows all.
@bluesap7318
@bluesap7318 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to make one out of pvc and silicone mixture.
@dodobarbar
@dodobarbar 3 жыл бұрын
The result on a resin printer should be even better! Go Jeyys go! ;-)
@rudiwinkelstein2483
@rudiwinkelstein2483 3 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, the bones in our upper arm, lower arm, hand and the three finger segments are also kind of like a fractal, each segment becoming smaller than the previous but with a similar form. This really seems to be a thing in nature.
@DoYouSeeBananaManTH
@DoYouSeeBananaManTH 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY that makes a lot of sense damn
@PublicVoidStart909
@PublicVoidStart909 2 жыл бұрын
Thats not what a fractal means though, a fractal is simply a shape that no matter how far you zoom in it will not lose its roughness. Similar to a coastline. Fractals can be self-similar but typically aren't
@NotHere3
@NotHere3 Жыл бұрын
@@PublicVoidStart909 dude, a fractal is a repeating shape/pattern that us matter how far you zoom in will keep it’s show up until the ATOMS NOT FOREVER.
@vanconojl
@vanconojl Жыл бұрын
@@NotHere3 "us matter"?
@racoonfederationhecker4173
@racoonfederationhecker4173 Жыл бұрын
@@PublicVoidStart909 He/She said that it was similar to a fractal, not exactly like it. Meaning it follows the general concept of a fractal but does not exactly resemble it.
@pubcle
@pubcle 3 жыл бұрын
It's a really sad thing that the fractal vise was lost to time, it's such a good device, and seeing its restoration to having a place of prominence and popularity is kinda heart warming.
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 Жыл бұрын
@puncledorf : The problem with a fractal vice is that it is not really a substitute for a normal parallel-jaw vice, so you need to have space for it as well. For instance, if you want to hold a small object, it gets very 'fiddly'. Admittedly the fractal vice I used was a monster. 😜
@billfred9411
@billfred9411 Жыл бұрын
Its a very cool device for sure but its not really any more useful then a normal vice most of the time. From what iv seen of people using these is they actually dont hold certain objects as good as you think. The way it distributes the weight tends to leave room for what ever you put in the vice to start sliding out if you are doing some really intense work on what is in the vice.
@pubcle
@pubcle Жыл бұрын
@@billfred9411 Huh, I'd think that the vise would hook under bits and make it really hard to slide in any direction besides maybe a pulling/leveraging it up from the vise. Can't image it would slip down or up the vise.
@billfred9411
@billfred9411 Жыл бұрын
@@pubcle Notice how everything is laying flat in this video? When i say up and down i mean vertically from were you would be looking at the vice. It will grip around the shape and hold it very well in that regard. what i mean is it slips vertically. The example i saw this with was Adam savage using it to drill a hole in a glass bottle which i will add is no easy feat and he used this vice. The problem was the bottle would slip vertically as he drilled it because the vice doesint have much vertical grip. I should also add if its a very solid object you could just crank it super tight and whatever's in probably wont budge at all . you could likley modify the vice to entirely solve that problem i mentioned as well.
@TommyGunz327
@TommyGunz327 Жыл бұрын
@@PiefacePete46 they make a large and small “jewelers version”. Adam Savage from that old discovery channel show I forget what it’s called recently bought one on alibaba and made a video of it. They come in 2 different sizes. The large one is around 2,500$ usd
@Wintergatan
@Wintergatan 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, had no clue - awesome video!
@dracons3257
@dracons3257 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I think your music and marble machine is really cool!
@Deses
@Deses 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel commenting on my other favorite channel!
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 3 жыл бұрын
bat shit incredible
@fuzzdogs
@fuzzdogs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deses same
@10HW
@10HW 3 жыл бұрын
of course, martin had to be here
@killsalot78
@killsalot78 3 жыл бұрын
now the fractal vise is gonna be the next big trend
@DakotaActually
@DakotaActually 3 жыл бұрын
It already is This is the 4th or 5th video on it i have seen
@yohellghost2115
@yohellghost2115 3 жыл бұрын
But it's very handy. I could have used this 20 years ago.
@gustavrsh
@gustavrsh 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what the regular metal version isn't made nowadays ..
@FireN2k9
@FireN2k9 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavrsh Maybe in China, usa/europe would be too expensive to fabricate I guess.
@gustavrsh
@gustavrsh 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireN2k9 even if it was expensive, I bet a lot of people would pay for it.
@abmorse1
@abmorse1 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the sentence, "Next, I decided to service my kazoo" has ever been said in a video before
@Breeegz
@Breeegz 3 жыл бұрын
I came here for the Kazoo.. I'm kinda addicted to makeing them, I even bought a circle cutter on Amazon to streamline the process.
@evanphi
@evanphi 3 жыл бұрын
If this isn't a euphemism, I don't know what is...
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanphi Came here to say the same lol
@YankeeinSC1
@YankeeinSC1 3 жыл бұрын
it's actually a common term if you're in the habit of banana clamping.
@thebudgetdungeon3858
@thebudgetdungeon3858 3 жыл бұрын
Oh... but it has... Just not the type of video that KZbin would typically allow to be posted. LMAO
@DuckyRC
@DuckyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for staying open source, its great to see designers take pride in their personal projects enough to share :)
@sublic3101
@sublic3101 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a TikTok of one of these while I was high and i thought it was one of the cleverest applications of fractal engineering ever. Sober now still think it’s the coolest fractal design.
@chrstphrr
@chrstphrr 3 жыл бұрын
This would make a great starting point for making a metal vise: PLA could be used to make patterns for casting metal parts. The design as you've made it would allow for interchangeable plastic soft jaws at the D level on an otherwise metal vise, too. Big, big thumbs up for making the design open source!
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 3 жыл бұрын
Shapeways can 3D print steel.
@lampostsamurai2518
@lampostsamurai2518 3 жыл бұрын
@@atomicskull6405 at the point where you're 3dprinting metal, you're better off using it for weak parts that aren't going to be compromised by being highly porous. a vise is probably not what you want to be extremely weak steel.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
Castable resin anyone?
@taowroland8697
@taowroland8697 3 жыл бұрын
CNC machine and lathe
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@taowroland8697 .... That is going so full circle that it's ironic....
@thomasmurphy8749
@thomasmurphy8749 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to express my appreciation at you sharing the source CAD files - it's nice to have STL's to print things, but the moment someone wants to tweak things, STL is awful. By having your CAD, they can directly make adjustments as they please :) I'm sure you know this and that's why you shared it, but it's just refreshing to see someone making that choice.
@succuvamp_anna
@succuvamp_anna 3 жыл бұрын
I hope HandToolRescue sees this, they would love this!
@Evilslayer73
@Evilslayer73 3 жыл бұрын
indeed
@sjonjones4009
@sjonjones4009 3 жыл бұрын
That's where I've this as well.
@KrisDouglas
@KrisDouglas 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he's why this video exists!
@Bolli1983
@Bolli1983 3 жыл бұрын
looked for this reference, was not disappointed.
@DustMug
@DustMug 3 жыл бұрын
You're about 20 hours early
@TimPiggott
@TimPiggott 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope a manufacturer is prepared to do this in metal on a large scale! It's such an awesome design!
@Micro-Moo
@Micro-Moo 3 жыл бұрын
I worked seriously enough on the fractals for a while and can say this is the most amazing hand-made product related to fractals I ever saw. Thank you for sharing!
@wlgt3257
@wlgt3257 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that came to the same sad conclusion that these fractal vises just are not available anywhere, anymore. So cool you did this vid @teaching tech I'm going to make one with my children now! Super Cool!
@taaoquinn3731
@taaoquinn3731 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a 3D printer but this video is just incredible. So detailed and such a good walk through on building and assembly. And the fully open source aspect is just amazing to see after all the work you put in to making this.
@ericlotze7724
@ericlotze7724 3 жыл бұрын
*AND* It's Open Source! Absolutely amazing project, keep up the great work!
@grumblycurmudgeon
@grumblycurmudgeon 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I watched the Hand Tool Rescue video, and 45 seconds in I was thinking, "my gods! WHY aren't these being made anymore!? The patent MUST be expired by now! I wonder if I could 3D print one!?" ...and here you are! And you OPEN-SOURCED IT! Brother, I could KISS you! You ABSOLUTELY just earned the like/sub/bell/share/comment! THANK you!
@LOSTYKmail
@LOSTYKmail 3 жыл бұрын
Total respect .. having all your hard work to be open source ..that's just amazing
@Borgedesigns
@Borgedesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! your constraint mechanism is genius, something I really was stuck on. same with the dovetails, although I will say I have found printing them with supports to be less detrimental than I was expecting, the supports printed only ended up being a .6mm line. Very nice design though, your design flow is so much neater than mine.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed seeing how the designs available all had their own stamp. When yours is no longer a WIP I'm gong to print it too. Well done!
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 3 жыл бұрын
the day I found these, I was so taken aback about how incredibly useful these are kudos to the inventor
@Krougher
@Krougher 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you are incredible. I wish i had you as a teacher.
@xander7462
@xander7462 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could manipulate the various software that well. Nice job!
@dschoas
@dschoas 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the restauration video, and thought that someone could 3d print this vice. And you made it! You are a hero!
@lizday8140
@lizday8140 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a 3-D Printer, nor do I have a workshop - or any other woodworking tools save my Dremel and the ones that come in a typical household toolkit. I loved watching this because...I'm an artist! And that fractal vise of yours, my friend, is art.
@RetroJack
@RetroJack 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw Hand Tool Rescue's video, I though, "Someone's gotta do this!" I'm glad this has actually happened - now all I need is a 3D printer of my own!
@GadgetAddict
@GadgetAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Superb work and fun to watch! The way you organized the prints also makes it super easy for people to duplicate 👍
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 3 жыл бұрын
So cool! I'm hoping to get a 3D printer soon and I'd love to print one of these
@phil6419
@phil6419 3 жыл бұрын
prusa's are dope
@jimmysyar889
@jimmysyar889 3 жыл бұрын
I like the creality ender 5
@jeepmanxj
@jeepmanxj 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of affordable options these days. I've got a small army of ender 3's and a cr6se that sits in my computer room.
@GReaper
@GReaper 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a 3d printer, just upload the the files to shapeways and have them print them for you, for a fee of course. You can even get metal prints, but that won't be cheap
@mikej8832
@mikej8832 3 жыл бұрын
@@GReaper any idea what shapeways charges? I'm on a tablet with no 3d printer or capable computer.
@Eclipsed_Archon
@Eclipsed_Archon 3 жыл бұрын
This is like, the simplest most obvious thing that I never would have thought of on my own. It's really just genius! Whoever came up with this is my hero
@thomasdupont1346
@thomasdupont1346 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw this on Hand Tool Rescue, I had never heard of this tool, let alone seen one. Now I've seen two and have an opportunity to make one myself. Good Times! Thank you!
@jamesmaybury7452
@jamesmaybury7452 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who uses a vice several times a day I would suggest a couple of practical variations. 1. One less level of fractals, 4 ‘jaws’ on each side should be plenty for any real life situations I can think of and that is still 4 times as many contact surfaces as used successfully for most situations. I think you probably want about twice the depth of jaws. I would like to see something about 4 times the depth on a woodwork vice to hold something like an axe handle or a carving vertically with much less point loads. If you are thinking of using something like this it is probably because you want to grip something gently but firmly. The plastic components are gentle enough and the previous suggestion should help make it strong enough. Making it as a jaws that fit onto a normal metal working or woodworking vice could actually take this from a cool and inventive idea to something that is actually very useful in a number of situations. Thanks for the post, and bringing windscreen wiper design to a vice.
@maggs131
@maggs131 3 жыл бұрын
It's so cool and interesting that something someone designed and developed over 100 years ago is instantly prized and replicated today.
@PaulDominguez
@PaulDominguez 3 жыл бұрын
The Fractal vice is trending with the makers.
@MiDnYTe25
@MiDnYTe25 3 жыл бұрын
I pulled the trigger on my first 3d printer yesterday, and naturally am binge watching 3d printing videos. The amount of creativity and practicality this medium carries is insane.
@zahven
@zahven 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever came up with this thing is a goddamn genius. What an interesting design
@Arclite02
@Arclite02 3 жыл бұрын
The instant I saw the thumbnail... "Well, SOMEONE's been watching Hand Tool Rescue..."
@user-ef4gf7rr9r
@user-ef4gf7rr9r 3 жыл бұрын
Your split design also allows you to use different facing materials. Could sub in steel, brass, wood. Perfect for working on delicate pieces. This vise would be great for gunsmiths in particular, I think.
@gordonyork6638
@gordonyork6638 Жыл бұрын
Lapidary also.
@sizzleshnizzle9484
@sizzleshnizzle9484 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely outstanding. It offers the perfect grip on the object it's holding. Shows how powerful fractals are, and shows how they can be applied in real life to make cool and unique fuctions. It may not do as well as rhe normal vices. I feel like a semi sphere shaped version of this design would make it even more affective when it comes to more 3 dimensional objects
@koopdi
@koopdi Жыл бұрын
How would you keep the semi spheres attached to each other?
@sizzleshnizzle9484
@sizzleshnizzle9484 Жыл бұрын
@@koopdi I'll try to explain the best I can on how I imagine it going down. instead of the vice being like the way it is in the video (2 dimensional) the parts would resemble more 3 dimensional all connected with a joint system that has circular freedom like ball and socket joints all working down into a fractal as shown in this video but instead of being flat it should be almost like a ball that is in 2 halves all descending down into smaller and smaller self-similar parts of it's self-giving a 3-dimensional grip on an object making desired objects less likely to slip ad there is more of a grip area. hope that makes sense. I'm no genius I wouldn't even know where to start with creating such a thing it's just an idea. it would require more parts but it could work
@koopdi
@koopdi Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. I might have a go at modelling something like that later. I didn't think of the ball/socket. Good idea. I was thinking of the same dovetail track system but with each segment rotated 90deg from it's parent.@@sizzleshnizzle9484
@ljprep6250
@ljprep6250 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. I saw that restoration video a year or two ago and thought the concept of the fractal vise to be wonderful. Your remake is truly cool. Thanks for sharing it with us, Michael.
@robertn7100
@robertn7100 2 жыл бұрын
A new and fascinating idea! Not sure what material is optimal, though, for stability.
@ljprep6250
@ljprep6250 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertn7100 Yeah, I can understand that. Vises tend to take a lot of abuse, and that's not one of plastic's normal functions.
@mOOOp42
@mOOOp42 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think that the fractal vise video would get so stuck in someone else's head too. I've been to a few antique stores and garage sales, and I always keep looking at the tools/ vices hoping that I may be lucky enough to be graced by such a cool antique.
@KeesHessels
@KeesHessels 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this not a well known tool ? this is so handy in cnc machining the bottom, but also with some guides you have a straight vise... cool...
@KeesHessels
@KeesHessels 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you, ebay will have some Chinese suppliers offering this real soon :)
@HuFlungDung2
@HuFlungDung2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of the repeatability of location of the part in such a vise. Simple enough to find out: can you clamp something in two different orientations? Also will the piece stay firmly against an end stop?This matters a great deal in CNC machining.
@KeesHessels
@KeesHessels 3 жыл бұрын
@@HuFlungDung2 I agree to a certain extent, i'm sure that as it is, it wont have the repeatability, a bench vise also does not have the accuracy epeatability of a machine vise, but I don' t see why that could not be solved, on the other hand, having to make fixtures all the time kinda sucks as well...a whole lot of effort goes into making fixtures, and often the accuracy is not that great either... I agree if we are dealing with precise cnc' s 0.001mm accuracy, its a bit difficult, way to many moving parts, but 0.01 region should be attainable, especially if you use something like a kinetic lock system and\or have the ability to lock the radiants in place...not saying its a one fit solution at all, but I do think it could save a lot on fixturing...a very usable tool in the arsenal of a machinist...
@joecoolmccall
@joecoolmccall 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because of all the moving parts, many which look sort of proprietary, it must have been expensive to manufacture and even more expensive to repair. Just a guess.
@momsberettas9576
@momsberettas9576 3 жыл бұрын
This bring the phrase "They've got my balls in a vice." to a whole new level.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. No
@imtako4evr
@imtako4evr 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to find I’m not the only dirty minded on here😭
@wades623
@wades623 3 жыл бұрын
@@imtako4evr you must be new to the internet.
@markbayles7840
@markbayles7840 3 жыл бұрын
How have I never seen one of these before. Excellent work 👍
@gordonyork6638
@gordonyork6638 Жыл бұрын
Holy feces on a roof tile. That is absolutely incredible. I have a lot of uses for this from drilling, soldering, glueing and a bunch others. I've always have had an issue clamping a raw rock in a slab saw. I have to use various sizes of wood to steady it. It's a mess. I need one. I just got a 3d printer recently. This will be one of my first projects after it's dialed in. Fantastic.
@Tzevy91
@Tzevy91 3 жыл бұрын
You have my respect, dear sir. I don't own a 3D printer, nor do I plan on making this vice, but since I am an architect and I do practice a lot of product and furniture design, I know how work-intensive this was and I can only imagine how many iterations of this vice you've tested before you achieved this. Making this video and the open-source STL files is pure gold. I do hope you add 2 more zeros at the end of the views counter. You truly deserve this!
@BLBlackDragon
@BLBlackDragon 3 жыл бұрын
100+ year old vise design, that is no longer available. Thank you for pointing out all of the folks who have modeled this. (Including you)
@MrChrisDonnelly
@MrChrisDonnelly 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this design process. My father showed me the restoration maybe 4 months ago. Your back engineering is really well done, and innovative. The tolerances, and actual design process is really envious... rather than the 'free fall' design I am working with. I'm trying to break bad habits, and this CAD, and explanation, is inspirational. 🙏
@sunflash2
@sunflash2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a patron member over on hand tool rescue too. I kept forgetting that he posted that video. I will be printing one of these.
@DeFaulty101
@DeFaulty101 Жыл бұрын
When you started the video with "we've all been there, finding an interesting video etc. etc.," I thought you were being cheeky, describing my experience finding your interesting video. Then you went on to describe the video which inspired this one. Just thought you might find it nice to know that your video was to me what that original inspiration was to you.
@davechua7867
@davechua7867 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this beautifully designed file! I have printed all the fractal parts in adaptive mode - max 0.12mm min 0.035mm which is the lowest layer height I have ever gone on any printer. The parts run silky smooth even before lubing. Spend the extra time and filament guys, it's worth it. Would have paid good money to have one of these a year ago when I was learning to build watches
@MaddMart
@MaddMart 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. One thing I would change is the direction you clamp things. Most clamps tighten in the clockwise direction.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that late on and didn't want to disassembled and flip things around. I should probably do that. Wasn't sure if anyone would notice so well spotted!
@MakeEverything
@MakeEverything 3 жыл бұрын
what a great job!!!
@foyrees
@foyrees 3 жыл бұрын
"service my kazoo" you, sir, are a treasure.
@featherbrain7147
@featherbrain7147 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and very clearly explained. I realised that I was so rapt that my mouth was hanging open! I needed one of these years ago but there were no 3D printers....
@AndyChaplin
@AndyChaplin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing the original CAD files with this project.
@JustLilGecko
@JustLilGecko 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, I was completely enthralled when I saw the vice restoration video, so pleased to see a 3D printed verson. Personally I think the little peg insert in each, uh, "moon shape", to stop the rotation, is more aesthetically pleasing to me than the cut-in-half circle, but man, watching this thing in action is so satisfying
@blubb7711
@blubb7711 3 жыл бұрын
I can´t wait for Ave milling it from some nice toolsteel.
@TheBigdawg441
@TheBigdawg441 3 жыл бұрын
Cue the classical music!
@johnv341
@johnv341 3 жыл бұрын
I would prefer This Old Tony for this one or Clickspring!
@TheBigdawg441
@TheBigdawg441 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnv341 Unless TOT has the Maho running 100% CNC now, I can't see it happening. But it would be fun for sure.
@blubb7711
@blubb7711 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnv341 Nah, it needs some fine canadian comentary
@johnv341
@johnv341 3 жыл бұрын
@@blubb7711 AVE for a laugh and rough machining. TOT for some finesse (and a laugh)
@GlaucusBlue
@GlaucusBlue 3 жыл бұрын
metal version on aliexpress in 3, 2 .... (actually I hope that happens) how are these not widely known about and why not still in production. I can think of countless projects this would have been great on.
@ThePiprian
@ThePiprian 3 жыл бұрын
I assume the production/repair costs with all those precise moving parts is not worth it considering many use cases could be done with a normal vise.
@DakotaActually
@DakotaActually 3 жыл бұрын
It was made in 1908. Before a lot of precision advancements. Each piece has to be labeled back then for the specific spot/fit
@merkatorix
@merkatorix 3 жыл бұрын
I would have assumed, that it is hard to grip stuff very tight without leaving marks. Similar results can probably achieved by just gripping it violently with classic tools or with softer materials like rubber (in that case it is less constrained, but probably less damaged, too?) The biggest reason is probably that the manufacturer needs to think about customers and most classic customers probably grip flat stuff or already use their own version, so they didn't see the market. Maybe they overlooked it.
@TheJacklwilliams
@TheJacklwilliams 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConnorWeller I took a quick look. The pic's say "Patent Pending" so I'd think this design is their version of a fractal vise.
@IanSlothieRolfe
@IanSlothieRolfe 3 жыл бұрын
I think these vices were mostly made in the 1900's for holding items while being manually engraved. Engraving is not such a big business these days, with other processes being used for the same effect commercially, so I imagine it would be a very niche market, because even today they would be very expensive.
@ChazBword
@ChazBword 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. This is why I bought a 3D printer. Thanks Michael
@lourias
@lourias 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, YOU ROCK!!! As soon as I get a 3D printer, this will be my first print job!!!!
@andreask.2675
@andreask.2675 3 жыл бұрын
Great design! You put an amazing amount of thought into it! I have one suggestion for improvement: Make a grove along the center of the long edge of the gripping parts - maybe at a 90°-120° angle. That would make it much easier to hold on flat things like the wrench in you video.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, that would be welcome. I could also release it as a variant without needing to change other files.
@mellis966
@mellis966 3 жыл бұрын
The tips of the smallest feet chould be printed in a semi-soft rubber.
@gennapohl8079
@gennapohl8079 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too--or just over-molded.
@PhoenixTwoFiftySix
@PhoenixTwoFiftySix 3 жыл бұрын
a crumple spring-like mechanism maybe?
@mrcrisps3376
@mrcrisps3376 3 жыл бұрын
The design is excellent, I will be printing it, also looking forward to seeing what practical purposes people can use it for
@RoxnDox
@RoxnDox 3 жыл бұрын
With soft plastic jaws, it would be great for holding pieces of wood or stone for carving, engraving, etc.
@harrygreene8669
@harrygreene8669 3 жыл бұрын
You just got my subscription. And Hand Tool Rescue is a great source for older tools that made this world what it is today.
@90Beater
@90Beater 3 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. I was in awe of the Hand Tool Rescue video of the Fractal Vice and now I have two delta printers printing out parts. Thank you for providing the STL files on Thingverse.
@petercoutu4726
@petercoutu4726 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this done in a filament or resin designed for metal casting. Taking the individual pieces and doing lost wax/pla/resin casting.
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Benjamin_Reese
@Benjamin_Reese 3 жыл бұрын
I love that channel, they take some terrible looking tools and make them so beautiful!
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
First video I've seen of theirs but it won't be my last.
@jani3785
@jani3785 3 жыл бұрын
Amazingly neat job. Seems that specific fractal vise is gong to be a legend.
@MrTexaspete30
@MrTexaspete30 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty amazing what can be accomplished these days with 3d printing and some smarts and talent.
@microbeta
@microbeta 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the restoration video a couple of weeks ago and decided I had to have one. But it never occurred to me to print one. This is amazing. Thanks.
@glennvillegas9941
@glennvillegas9941 3 жыл бұрын
I really need to take a few CAD classes to help me bring my ideas to life.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
These are some of the first videos I made on the channel: kzbin.info/aero/PLGqRUdq5ULsMDOxmu10AGPDIOkzNYu7D7
@evanphi
@evanphi 3 жыл бұрын
Get an OnShape account. Amazing tutorials for free!
@tededonthugback
@tededonthugback 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great video! I thought about trying to make one of these, but I'm not that great at 3d-modeling yet. So, I'm glad you designed this for us!!!
@thecombatengineer7069
@thecombatengineer7069 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty rad. I’ve recently started experimenting with 3D printing molds and then using carbon fiber casting for the final product (for projects that need more strength). This project seems like an excellent candidate for a carbon fiber upgrade. Cheers and excellent CAD work as well.
@im_Polyhedrons
@im_Polyhedrons 3 жыл бұрын
this is perfect for putting the final touches on a sculpture!
@facinorous
@facinorous 3 жыл бұрын
I work in a machine shop. I am going to take your design and instead of printing it, I will make it out of tool steel. Wish me luck.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, please share when you're done.
@koglioknows
@koglioknows 3 жыл бұрын
Please do, as I have the same thoughts. But maybe I can just buy yours instead. Lol 👍
@EatRawGarlic
@EatRawGarlic 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! The original video got recommended to me as well, but I didn't understand what the thumbnail was showing and therefore never watched it.
@StephenBoyd21
@StephenBoyd21 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same here. Now I’ll have to go back and watch it.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
From the thumb I assumed it was broken but within a few seconds all was revealed.
@jijisniet
@jijisniet 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that was exactly what i was thinking. Looked like a whole chunk of metal was missing, just thought it was a normal vise but just destroyed
@EatRawGarlic
@EatRawGarlic 3 жыл бұрын
@@jijisniet Indeed, I thought: "that's just a generic brazing/welding job", so I wasn't particularly interested. He should've also made a thumbnail with the banana clamped in the vise.
@NiyaKouya
@NiyaKouya 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Saw the thumbnail quite a few times on the side bar and always thought it was some piece of metal with a really weirdly shaped (damage) hole in it...
@Bbonno
@Bbonno 3 жыл бұрын
I like these remixes. Each one shows the strengths of each creator, and inspires the next one. This one brings some good innovations to the jaws, while completely omitting a vise bed... On that note, would this work with spheres instead of circles?
@ІванКлимчук-х2ф
@ІванКлимчук-х2ф 3 жыл бұрын
I think, half-spheres will not be securely fixed. However, it's probably good idea to use magnets. Also, it's possibly to combine vertical and horizontal half-cylinders.
@Bbonno
@Bbonno 3 жыл бұрын
@@ІванКлимчук-х2ф magnets are a great idea. I was thinking you would need separate dovetails on separate layers of each half sphere, for the X and Y directions. Your idea would need a lot fewer parts 😜
@ІванКлимчук-х2ф
@ІванКлимчук-х2ф 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bbonno Yes, but if you will work with iron, magnets will attract metal flakes. So this solution have it's own drawbacks...
@MontagueProfessional
@MontagueProfessional Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@devlindelfuegoplays
@devlindelfuegoplays 3 жыл бұрын
If I owned a 3d printer. I would be all over this. This is so cool.
@dunichtich100
@dunichtich100 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a psychedelic trip a year ago where I have seen a lot of fractals as an answer to my own engineering problems... Seems like I have seen the future 😂
@jtcmlt1
@jtcmlt1 3 жыл бұрын
You have seen the past.
@dunichtich100
@dunichtich100 3 жыл бұрын
@@jtcmlt1 to say it in fractal terms: I saw the interconnected self-similarity of the past, the present and the future ;)
@jtcmlt1
@jtcmlt1 3 жыл бұрын
@@dunichtich100 🤪
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 3 жыл бұрын
MULTIPLE Nobel prize winners have said LSD helped their discoveries. It's not as far out as it seems.
@MichaelMacGyver
@MichaelMacGyver 3 жыл бұрын
While watching the Hand Tool Rescue video, I figured it'd only be a matter of time before someone designed a 3d printable version. Also I wouldn't be surprised to see some cheap made-in-China metal versions appearing on AliExpress or BangGood in the near future
@Orchestra033
@Orchestra033 2 жыл бұрын
Any shape you say?
@ATAOIS
@ATAOIS 3 ай бұрын
No No No No No No No NOOOOO
@That_droper
@That_droper 2 ай бұрын
@@ATAOISI don’t get it helppppp does he mean egg plant?😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@ATAOIS
@ATAOIS 2 ай бұрын
@@That_droper umm. It is much more then that. PP He's talking about masterbating with it(jokingly)is that a word?
@ButtFaceManDudeGuyOfficial
@ButtFaceManDudeGuyOfficial Ай бұрын
It has to be at least a couple centimeters, sorry
@Littlebrownchicken
@Littlebrownchicken 19 күн бұрын
Any shape big enough
@roccov3614
@roccov3614 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail for Hand Tool Rescue. Didn't realize it was so cool. I'm going to have to watch it now.
@seedmole
@seedmole 3 жыл бұрын
Cool to see something like this come of that fractal vice restoration video.
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW, I passed the HTR video and info on to the R&D department of Veritas Tools and they would *very* interested, so a high-quality version might be coming in the next couple of years.
@jonfreilich
@jonfreilich 3 жыл бұрын
"I decided to service my kazoo" 😂
@justinl.3587
@justinl.3587 3 жыл бұрын
The next 6 months on the forums are going to be posts about this vise 🤦🏼‍♂️
@floorpizza8074
@floorpizza8074 3 жыл бұрын
You say that like it's a *bad* thing! : )
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn 3 жыл бұрын
It was on HTR, it's already everywhere!
@NateBear
@NateBear 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully people make extras. I want one but dont have this kind of free time
@garymiller3403
@garymiller3403 3 жыл бұрын
Superb presentation and thank you for helping upcoming designers.
@Jason-jz7st
@Jason-jz7st 3 жыл бұрын
using filament for locating dowels....priceless. Great project and video!!
@chadgdry3938
@chadgdry3938 3 жыл бұрын
"Fortunately I'm in a room surrounded by 3d printers" yes, yes you are...
@Scott_C
@Scott_C 3 жыл бұрын
Okay... Going to take the mechanism and design a cast for my broken ankle.
@gentiligiuliano7882
@gentiligiuliano7882 3 жыл бұрын
Now some company will restart producing metal one 😂
@hificat101
@hificat101 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing project! The only thing I wish it had was some sort of collapsing table over the screw and rods. Maybe some sort of interlocking fingers that come together as the vice is closed, in a way that doesn't limit overall travel too much. It's crazy for me to see this now. Just visited an old friend the other day that was showing me his 3D printers, and was blown away by the stuff he printed. Maybe I need to buy one now.
@taitano12
@taitano12 2 жыл бұрын
Tools like this make the price of a filament maker worth it. The soft touch of the plastic makes it a perfect complement to an original steel version for working with soft metals. However, it would wear out relatively quick, but is you can simply reprint the parts. Use a cheap shredder and a good filament maker to recycle the old parts.
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I would add a hemispherical TPU 'button' on each bump to aid with gripping.
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it would make the design better.
@stinkyham9050
@stinkyham9050 3 жыл бұрын
So 100 years ago we could all get an amazingly useful tool like this but now we are stuck with flat vises. What's that all about?
@jorgemiguel2641
@jorgemiguel2641 3 жыл бұрын
Cheap mass production over quality and creativity.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgemiguel2641 yeah. Are common people willing to buy that metal fractal vise? How often would they use it? It's not just quality and creativity, it is about real world usage, practicality, and price-to-performance.
@tactbbq
@tactbbq 2 жыл бұрын
The newer version of these are called flex vises and are ridiculously expensive 3 to 4k. Different design but same intended purpose
@DenisSasko
@DenisSasko 3 жыл бұрын
"You have the pleasure of assembling another one..." hahaha
@almclester
@almclester 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I recently saw your file on Thingiverse and it is in my project queue. I really appreciate having this video to help with the assembly.
@commandrogyne
@commandrogyne 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like i want to double the thickness and use it to cast a metal vise, what a cool implementation!
@tobefrank4040
@tobefrank4040 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, hear me out- print this out with low infill and single layer wall thickness, then do a "lost-pla" casting with aluminum, and voila, metal fractal vise!
@tim40gabby25
@tim40gabby25 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Suggest you do a video on this?
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