3D Printed Intake Manifold - Ford V10 4V Build Ep. 5

[@lcplwilliamsryanm]

This is crazy that two dudes are doing this in their garages. I'm addicted to this series

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

Me too! I’m glad that I was late to the party, so I was able to binge watch the videos

[@ER-ru6qp]

Gotta be one of the most impressive builds on KZbin

[@robertheymann5906]

Great work gentlemen, prototype projects have always been my favorite. We used to do this stuff on manual machinery with good results but additional fixtures and tooling required without computers. Your processes and procedures display quality workmanship, I'm a bit older and really love to see you younger artists at work.

[@Levibetz]

After stumbling across this video I went through and watched them all! Incredible project! I can't wait to see more, and this series is criminally under-viewed! I also have a real curiosity for these V10s.

[@HammerWrench]

V10 mods and a Mark VIII! I can’t believe you guys are only at 1100 subs. You deserve much more. Keep up the great work.

[@Keasbeysknight]

I don't know how I got here on this series but I am so glad I did. You guys definitely have alot of toys at your disposal but that doesn't take away all the wrenching ingenuity and design work you guys are doing. Fantastic stuff!

[@dinsdaleseven1627]

Wow. Your work is impressive. Keep fighting.

[@mathieusynnott8915]

I would love to see this engine on Steve Morris Dyno and if its suuccessfull build thoses heads should be made Billet from him!

[@biy_buildityourself]

That would be sweet!

[@vintagespeed]

awesome! i've been planning a similar version for my V10 swapped F100. :) subscribed!

[@markszyszkiewicz]

When you show intake from the front, it reminds me of Woola from the movie, "John Carter of Mars".

[@svtcolten7439]

Just an option, but MFP Australia offers billet reverse alternator brackets for their Ford Falcons which have Ford 5.4 DOHCs. The timing chain cover is the same as a Navigator 5.4 4v

[@biy_buildityourself]

Thanks for the suggestion! We’ll have to check them out!

[@loganmurray6081]

Excellent work gentlemen!

[@richardholdener1727]

I dig it!

[@RJon2006]

What is the solution to the dead headed coolant passages that were welded shut? I’m guessing you will have “head cooling mods” on the front and back of each head? Looking forward to seeing how this all comes together.

[@biy_buildityourself]

That’s right, we’ll be cooling each half of the heads separately.

[@madmod]

Basically the "crack pipe" cooling mod often performed on 4v mod motors and factory equipped on 04-05 Aviator 4v heads. They were already known to have some hot spots back there so ford fixed it too.

[@imonaroll9502]

Name the intake Wall-E. 😂

[@gafrers]

Newly subbed. Interesting project for sure

[@james10739]

Thats cool I don't personally care about ford or v10s but cool that you are doing it

[@benrobinson9136]

I need a mark 8 tour asap.

[@Jmauer]

You guys could also use two throttle body’s off of a SOHC 4.6 (2V) or 2V 5.4.

[@biy_buildityourself]

The ones we are using are much larger, they are 78 mm throttle bodies.

[@TheTruthBeToId]

So this is where Ford got their idea for the double throttle body on their new mustang dark horse

[@4x4Mudmaster]

They did it in the early 90s on 351s and 460s

[@larrygoldsby1255]

The manifold looks great, but I believe the runners are too short to get velocity. It will make incredible horsepower at high RPM's, but may lack street ability and low end torque.

[@biy_buildityourself]

They are pretty short, but we are targeting high RPM so that was intentional.

[@weldmachine]

What a shame you couldn't find/use Left & Right hand Throttle Bodies. The new design looks ok ?? But, a more direct path would look and possibly flow a little better. I guess a compromise needs to happen if you're trying your best to keep control of the cost. The first manifold design had a more performance look, where as the revised version looks more like an OEM Manifold. As always, you guys did a great job 👍👍

[@roota81]

Have you guys thought of modifying an Aussie boss intake with modified upper lid to suit your LS throttle bodies?

[@madmod]

The cost of a boss unit in the states, let alone two that would be needed to make it work is big big money. Hed spend less mony doing it in sheet metal but the boss manifold is sweet

[@tturi2]

@@madmod they are like $200AUD each

[@madmod]

@@tturi2 in the states, you would be hard pressed to find one under 2000usd

[@tturi2]

@@madmod thats a rort, go on ebay and pay the $200 shipping

[@madmod]

@@tturi2 Ebay has no listings in the US for Boss 5.4 manifolds. Zero. Ebay of AU has local pickup listings only. They are very rare and costly in the states.

[@DatBoiOrly]

Hi i'm new to this series since you welded the heads together have you normalised the heads yet and if you haven't please do so this will normalise the grain structure meaning less chance of cracking

[@ethanwild3301]

By heating?

[@DatBoiOrly]

@@ethanwild3301 yes by heating it then letting it slowly cool this will make the grain structure throughout an even size, this has 3 advantages. 1). makes the aluminium not soft at the welds (since AL anneals when rapidly cools which as you know AL is a great heat sink) which leads to cracking if force is used. 2). increases its overall compressional strength of the heads so when tightening the heads it evenly distributes the force evenly making them seal to the block better. 3). completely removing the internal stresses not only from the welds but also from the casting of the heads making them an overall stronger set of heads.

[@firzanharazi3922]

Awesome. What type of glue used to connect each 3d part?

[@biy_buildityourself]

good ol' super glue and hot glue

[@Vettespeed]

you guys have it planned to get a balanced crankshaft and super stable valve train down the road too right

[@heith85]

I am curious as well. I also would like to know about any issues with deleting the balance shaft that was on the one head. I might run two similar heads and flip one to delete it on my motor

[@biy_buildityourself]

We plan to balance the entire rotating assembly, especially with all the goodies we are getting 😈 With regards to the balance shaft, our research leads us to believe it is purely an NVH solution. It would be interesting for someone with a V10 to remove the shaft gear and drive around to see how it responds.

[@heith85]

@@biy_buildityourself I believe you are right on it being for NVH. I do plan on removing mine as I have h beam rods and different pistons. So I think the factory balance shaft would be out of wack as my rotating assembly is hopefully a fair amount lighter. I still need to find a local shop that can balance the v10 crank

[@Rustyrider-og4pf]

Binging this, but I have stuff to do.

[@TheVenom8343]

Mother fucker this is good shit!!! I'm glad I found this channel!!! Found on 4-8-2024 because it was in my recommended.

[@bwilliams1221]

Is there any way for me to get/buy that intake design to make one for myself?

[@jameswhitesell3076]

What programs are you using to create the 3d imageing and test the airflow dynamics of the intake?

[@tturi2]

Do consider using two boss 260 intakes

[@mrdanflores]

any chance of getting a copy of the CAD files? working on a custom 4v intake for a 4.6 4v engine

[@donaldspeck9212]

Would you consider building a custom intake manifold for my f150 5.4 3v?

[@biy_buildityourself]

Maybe once we’re done with this engine and we have some time for extra projects. What kind of build are you working on?

[@donaldspeck9212]

Building a 2014 5.4 3v That I'm gonna drop in my 09 f150. There isn't a aftermarket intake manifold available. Hoping you could be the first

[@bougie2k]

encore un travail de pro

[@BP-kc3dj]

Won't the air flow from the throttle bodies be kinda vortexed in a way since they now cross each other or is the plan to put a block between them so that that air flow banks to one side or the other? Also, why not just go with one single bigger throttle body?

[@biy_buildityourself]

There will be a divider inside of the plenum, so there will still be two separate plenums, one for each bank.

[@AnthonySvt_]

Wouldn’t you be able to put the injectors on the inside of manifold I feel like it’d follow the runners and air going through it more, it’d hide them more clean up the engine bay a bit and for easier installation and removal a sub harness could be made to disconnect the injector harness instead of having to unplug each one individually.

[@biy_buildityourself]

That is an interesting idea. At first glance it seems it would be difficult to package but it would be slick!

[@VictorMPR]

It seems to me the throttle bodies are going to be sending the air… pretty much straight into a wall. It was simpler and… well, straight the first time around. What about the positions of the throttle bodies was bothersome?

[@biy_buildityourself]

The blades opened in opposite directions and we preferred the look of the angled TBs.

[@Flatout56-o8k]

I love this

[@kennethporst1738]

MY GUYS ♥️♥️ you dont wanna add Runer Variable valves?

[@biy_buildityourself]

That would be sweet! But also would add way too much complexity to the design. Maybe for a future project we’ll try something like that!

[@agustinmorales4045]

would the shorter bosh 210 style injectors fit better?

[@biy_buildityourself]

We’ll check those out!

[@SGTMARSHALL1]

A year later and your ready to start it up 🎉

[@ИванАндреев-у8т]

Hello! Tell me, please, what kind of literature can be used to build the same intake manifold?

[@heith85]

I hear all the cool kids with triton v10's are running itbs

[@biy_buildityourself]

I wish we were that cool lol

[@madmod]

Ive seen one setup with bikecarbs where they used the truck manifold, cut the runners off, and reused the flange and coolant crossover so all the hard fab work was made easy.

[@heith85]

@@madmod that build sucks butts when compared to this build lol

[@madmod]

@@heith85 it made power though

[@heith85]

@@madmod nah it sucks butts.

[@Ricky_Roadracer]

Love this project. I think the RPM goal is a little lofty if not just an arbitrary number, my 324 Cid DOHC is silly to 7500…. I have been running this engine in a track car for years…. Check my KZbin for any information. I wish you luck and I am following along to see the final results. Are you going to use the stock crank ?

[@biy_buildityourself]

8k is definitely ambitious, but it’s certainly doable with the proper supporting hardware. This wont be a track car either so if you’ve been running 7500 for years in a track car, that gives us confidence we’ll be okay! Yup, we’re reusing the stock 6.8 crank for this build. There’s no other option for this engine so we’re definitely going to be putting it through its paces 😬

[@Ricky_Roadracer]

I mean a billet 3.700 stroke common pin crank would really solve a lot of problems,,,, I can only imagine what that would cost though

[@vintagespeed]

@@biy_buildityourself sorry, i'm late to the party. the forged crank will handle it, but the oddfire rotation and balance shaft are the big question.. looking forward to your results! 👍

[@garrettscott4094]

Okay, I am going to need this intake but so it can fit an Cobra throttle body. I just cant bring myself to put a GM throttle body on a ford engine.

[@landonphillips7013]

Downside for high boost applications is you can't put a v band flange to a ford oval throttle body.

[@ItsA68]

Why not have the whole thing 3D printed in carbon strand filled 6/6 nylon and actually run the plastic manifold on the motor? I'm sure there's companys with bigger 3D printers that could print the whole thing, or at the least, runners, and plenum that you could join.

[@biy_buildityourself]

Would be cool to have it 3D printed or injection molded! But it would also be really expensive for a one off. Thankfully aluminum is relatively cheap, and we have the ability to machine a lot of the parts so it should be relatively straight forward making the intake 🤞🏽🤞🏽

[@pcwizzy460]

Seeing GM parts kinda is irritating. Why wouldn't a half ton 4.6 or 5.4 TB work?

[@4x4Mudmaster]

Because the US aftermarket default is gm parts.

[@winiary_taniegruzy]

Bmw S85 itbs are plentiful since all of them have exploded in the rod bearing department. Might be cool as a phase 2 or something.

[@MasterXBKC]

I disagree with their use of LS Throttle bodies tho, the Stock 2V V10 Computer can run 3V and 4V heads with tuning changes as long as their not using variable cam timing, which it appears they are not, but it can't run 2 electronic throttle bodies that i know of.... over-complicated on that part, which will also mean they have to use an aftermarket computer...

[@MrLuvtheUSA]

Dude, did you see them cut apart 4 different heads and weld them back together? I don’t think running a different PCM is over complicated for them, 😂

[@dantheman1998]

Im telling you right now. Dont print this in PLA. It wont work. ABS at a minimum. MAYBE PETG. Oh....your gonna make if from sheet metal. Did you test the flow of your manifold in solidworks?

[@jj_styles_]

I need someone to help me with 3d modeling,, can you??