3D Printing HUNDREDS OF THESE!

[@thomaswiley666]

Yes, total project cost structure is a most. Your "fee" on top of the cost of materials and farm operational costs (electricity, maintenance, processing, post-processing) accounts for your own personal time as project manager. You manage the account (whom you work with), the agreed upon design(s) - if you design or assign a designer, and how the design is to be manufactured, and how the finished project is to be delivered. People tend to forget how much time and effort they put into something. If you don't assign yourself an hourly rate, you are basically working for free. And yes, we do sometimes do things for friends, but please be judicious in what discounts you want to give. So thank you, Joel, for adding to this conversation.

[@L337f33t]

Love seeing the printing at scale. I recently did a project for my company to make our logo into a medallion that could be sent to our chapter members. 7 medallion “bases” to a plate, 1 “petal” for each color of the logo and there’s 5. It was a learning experience. Then assembly was done with a couple friends paid in pizza lol

[@TheOver18years]

i would love to see this! Any way i can see the end product i would love to do this myself :D

[@woodwaker1]

Thanks for walking us through the cost process. I'm fortunate that I do projects for friends as a favor, unless it gets out of hand. I have a money back guarantee. I don't see it as a job, but my full time hobby in retirement, when you charge everyone has different expectations

[@BadgerRobot]

I was literally there today, and saw that model. Nice work!

[@tombellucco7155]

Do you have another video where you show your post-processing methods, specifically the removal of the strings with a flame?

[@Gooobae]

1. Take a blowtorch. 2. Take flame to 3D print. 3. Done. Not that difficult is it?

[@PeterPetersNL]

Regarding broken yeti's, you should also consider how much time it costs to do it slower. I remember one time when I was producing rolls of chain and sometimes the machine would mess up. I could save the chain, but it would take time. Throwing away the material was cheaper than my hours (and I was just an intern, so labor was cheap).

[@stldenise]

Love to see the print farm in action 😍🧑‍🌾

[@FAB1150]

Watching this video while I'm post processing 200 medals for a small event a friend helped organize. At this scale it's a bunch of work and every small optimization to the process counts, but it's relaxing.

[@AlexSwavely]

Questions that seem to pop up often in various discords: Proper packing for shipment and finding the right shipper/broker

[@andrewlongfellow8745]

I love it. Definitely keep it going. You need to start wearing overalls and a straw hat. Lean more into the farming theme.

[@orange-micro-fiber9740]

Those horns look tricky. I printed a wolf with a tiny nose and I had to break my own rules about how slow to print. Ended up increasing the minimum layer time a LOT and lowering the minimum speed. It worked!

[@NathanSoehardi]

I used to work at Phantom Zone Comics but it was a comic book store in Sydney Australia

[@Thadopeera]

I have both Prusa and Bambu machines too.. To see that in your lab lets me know I’m on the right track here 🤣 Thanks..

[@ultimatedude80]

As someone who wants to start working on making cosplays for people this is kinda great to learn from love all your vids but this is great

[@StudioCreations]

Wow. Those Bambu printers really are fast. Almost twice the speed of the Prusa MK3. Interesting. The video is a great primer on how to operate a print farm successfully too. Very nice info here. Thanks, Joel!

[@bobograndman]

They produce the same quality as Prusas as well. Overall they are a solid choice as long as you don't mind that you can't really tinker with them like you can with Prusa printers. Although, the Prusa XL is faster with multimaterial compared to an X1C with an AMS, but the XL costs several thousand USD more.

[@DanialBulloch]

The MK4 is much closer to the Bambu printers in speed. The MK3s are reliable workhorses, well proven, but they are long in the teeth.

[@awilliams1701]

yeah those mk3's are antiques at this point. It's why prusa is discontinuing them. The mk4 is so much better. Better quality prints. Faster prints. Easier to use.

[@BH4x0r]

​@awilliams1701 at the price not worth it if you can get a machine that actually does something else than pla or petg (which pretty much any printer can) it's pretty stupid to not buy the better product I also shot myself in the foot that way, i was like meh i only print petg, but i'd love to print nylon or pc for things that need to be strong, but it'll just warp to hell

[@awilliams1701]

@@BH4x0r It's like $800. Way cheaper than a bambu. Not as fast but better quality and WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY better support.

[@TheSanpletext]

Electricity consumption is marginal. I can run my MK3 printing PET-G for 10 hours and that costs approx 0,089€ in electricity. That's 9 cents in 10h. Even if it was three fold, that's still be marginal.

[@stephanbrenner3317]

It depends. My xmax3 printing ABS is 15cent per hour here in Germany...

[@TheSanpletext]

@@stephanbrenner3317 hold up, your electricity costs HOW MUCH?

[@stephanbrenner3317]

@@TheSanpletext currently we pay 37euro cent per kWh and the qidi uses 350W on average. Printing PLA on an Ender is only 100W in average. Thats why I only print in the day time using solar energy

[@TheSanpletext]

@@stephanbrenner3317 yeah I calculated my mk3 using 100w/h, but damn that's expensive, I pay 8,9c/kWh

[@kiwikemist]

@@stephanbrenner3317 you should look into some battery storage for the solar

[@Superchunk-k2h]

Very useful explanaion of operating a print farm

[@dijitek]

may have to actually go into the mall. Only ever go there for the Apple store or theater.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

His store is right by the Apple Store!

[@adrianharrison5208]

what size nozzle do you use?

[@3DPrintingNerd]

0.4mm

[@adrianharrison5208]

@@3DPrintingNerd thanks for the reply

[@LincolnWorld]

Is there a "Joel Club" that you met this other Joel? I've done quite a few massive print runs for clients that were 2D traditionally printed graphics for DVD covers, posters for clients that wanted thousands, etc. Most printing companies that do this sort of work would give me a percentage of possible over or under a final amount. Such as if I was ordering 1000 of something, they would say, "If you absolutely need no less than a thousand, then you should order 5% more because we have to account for printing failures. They would only charge me for the successful ones, but they weren't going to do another print run to just fill out the messed up ones. I always hated that, but it made sense why. Might be worth considering something similar for very very large orders. Thanks for another interesting video. High-5!

[@DarrylAdams]

Surprised the Naomi Wu conveyor belt printer is not a part of the mix. I thought they would be ideal for this use case

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Unfortunately I don’t have any more of those :(

[@invent3d939]

Love this kind of content - totally relatable :D

[@aracon9721]

so how do I calculate maintenance cost? 🤷‍♂

[@JackPinesBlacksmithing]

I saw that at ECCC! Great work!

[@agorman5945]

Where can I get the file for that model? I love the way it looks!!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

I talked to my friend and he will be releasing it later!

[@agorman5945]

Great! Can’t wait! 😁

[@_3D_TECH_]

Hey 3D printing Nerd - please advise people about the Anycubic Hack and how risky this is. I work in the IT space - this means someone can turn off termal protection and burn your house down.

[@envt]

Love how much commercials pcbwey are making on all 3d channels.

[@davidtobin]

They are a solid company that does good work.

[@envt]

@@davidtobin nothing wrong there

[@davidtobin]

@@envtYeah. Its nice seeing them support everyone making fun educational content.

[@awilliams1701]

they are on almost all the retro channels as well. The biggest holdout is the 8 bit guy. He doesn't want sponsorships. I'm like why not? PCBWay seems awesome. And I can confirm they do make great PCBs. I have one in my C64. It's a mod that lets it flip between NTSC and PAL at the flip of a switch. I've also seen a couple of videos of their prints. The quality was great.

[@Anguisette]

Really love the "how to" planning, factoring, pricing etc, business insight. One comment on the Yetis, should have figured out a way to get the phantom zone name or website on them (maybe underside of the feet?), so people can know what business these little friendly lads are associated with.

[@NoOneisHereAnyway]

Sign at booth: "Free Yeti" Visitor: "hell yea, a free yeti, I've really been wanting one of those to keep my drinks cold" Booth attendant: hands over a plastic minifigure of a yeti. Visitor:...🤦‍♂️😥

[@patrickdubois7692]

Very nice episode

[@HackMonkey]

Absolutely have to plan for all the little things, and failures are going to happen! It is important to take that into account in estimates. I am wrapping up an order for 10,800 parts, 9 design variations, 1200 each design. They need 1200, so I built a 10% failure rate into my numbers, essentially estimating on printing 11,880, and delivering 10,800. Test prints were also built in. And while my energy costs are pretty low, I have 3 Vorons assigned to the project, and a total time estimate of 900 hrs. So it is still about $100 in power. I even budgeted in a quart of IPA for cleaning the build plates 250 times!

[@TechRexFC]

I'm trying to break into the 3D Printing industry, because I'd rather pursue my dream job than be an accountant :/ Is there any tips you'd be willing to share with breaking in? Perhaps pointing me in the right direction?

[@HackMonkey]

@@TechRexFC Biggest thing is finding your market. Have to have a customer. And always be selling, which is the part I hate. Pooch at Repkord has a podcast called Maker That Money that digs into a lot of these topics, 3DPrintedProfits is also pretty good.

[@orange-micro-fiber9740]

I'd be interested to see you work with Slant 3D. However, if you're running a print farm, they're your competition. I think they're larger volume more B2B focused, but I could be wrong. I like their videos.

[@midnightrambler4468]

Great Video, thanks!

[@justinluttmer]

I clicked the link but it said the server couldn’t be found.

[@davidtobin]

Try now. The PCB Way link had an error. It's fixed now. The Gleam link works for us.

[@3dThor]

Happy farming :)

[@rcmaniac25]

Very good overview about what needs to be done, especially on "don't break them by rushing". Probably should've mentioned taking post-processing costs and modeling costs into account too. Printed Obsession is awesome and have fun at the Comic Con.

[@gitumjoe]

What about copyrights?

[@3DPrintingNerd]

What do you mean? Regarding this model, I and the comic book store hold the copyright.

[@humblebumblehomestead]

Hey can you print crab shells!?? I just heard about a shortage of hermit crab shells on beaches and now we have poor little crabs living in garbage containers 😢 maybe 3d crab shells could help?

[@cnc-maker]

GLOOP!!!! Gloop is cheaper than reprinting, right? ;)

[@Qwarzz]

Usually when people are asking something for their "friend" they don't use their own name.

[@13pie]

Prusa 20hrs, Bambu 10.5 for the same print run...?!

[@Demonicwolf9]

man that is way too much work for a give a way

[@Condamine123456]

That's why they do it that way to make you jump through hoops

[@enhidri160]

You want a gift card or not?

[@BrandonKuiphof]

More in depth on your price. I feel like most people have a problem pricing their prints. Instead of being vague, let’s see hard numbers

[@JS-vk7ek]

I tried to enter but got: Sorry, you're creating too many entries; try again later.

[@davidtobin]

Check again and let us know if gleam is still causing this issue.

[@MYLITTLEPWNY97]

At this scale why not make a mould and do injection moulded plastic?

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Because at this scale, you’re still talking thousands of dollars just for the mould. I can do it for less money and still make a profit.

[@geauxracerx]

@@3DPrintingNerd yes molds run tens of thousands of $$$, and depending on who you deal with you might not even own the molds once all is said and done.

[@googleyoutubechannel8554]

PCBWay CEO: Spend 10x our annual revenue, millions of dollars, sponsor every single tuber with more than 5 followers, I don't care how much it costs. Also PCBWay CEO: $100 for a good logo!?! we can't afford that, here I'll just do it in clipart

[@juts89]

Not a fan of mass printing what is essentially waste/trash. Id rather this have at least been something of use or purpose.

[@Mystical_Zeus]

Talk to the big companies not an individual.

[@antman7673]

⁠@@Mystical_Zeus Put these figures into your home and not let them go to waste.

[@Mystical_Zeus]

@@antman7673 I have several plastic figurines I printed and have sold. Stop acting like this is a major problem..

[@pooppyybuhhole]

Teehee like knick knacks and ish? Teeheee and TRINKETS?! teeeeeheeeee

[@rodolfobeans3531]

@@Mystical_Zeus talk to your ma

[@The_Chillguy7]

more

[@hcatz]

From Pikachu prints to yetis prints. What a great evolution of the 3d printing😢... There are so many better things we can do with this technology. I really don't understand how this kind of video can benefit to the 3d printing industry

[@chriskwakernaat2328]

how would 3dprinting solve world hunger? or wars? This helps people determine how to calculate costs for printing.