3F Lanshan 1 Pro vs 3F Lanshan 1 | Comparison & Initial Review - Is it an Upgrade?

[@ivanalban5037]

I'm new to backpacking and have been watching quite a few tent set-up videos. I've seen a few well filmed and informative videos but yours is a step above- thorough without unnecessary clutter. Dude, you even showed how to seam a tent...all in less than 8 minutes! Thanks.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Ivan, I try to keep the cut through the waffle and not waste everyone’s time

[@Superk1w186]

Totally agree with you Ivan! Too many KZbinr's seem to prattle away for ages without saying anything of value. Richard is concise and informative!

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Julian

[@_68niou1]

This video is so high quality. Thank you for your honest review and all the little details you include. So well done. Can't give you high enough praise.

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you so much

[@_68niou1]

@@RichardCheng I'm really looking forward to your thoughts on how the Pro version does in the rain/humidity.

[@RichardCheng]

It’s exactly as I expect from a single layer tent so far. It’s manageable but don’t expect to pitch it and forget it

[@_68niou1]

@@RichardCheng I'm 191 CM tall would I fit in the Pro? I use a 5 cm thick sleeping pad.

[@RichardCheng]

It’s hard to say but I think you should be fine diagonally across the tent in the worst case

[@hoser7706]

Great summary review, thanks. And dude you have the perfect voice for broadcasting!!!

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you Hoser!

[@phil.clarke]

I am really impressed how transparent you are in 3F sending the tent to you and your affiliate links - well done.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Phillip, I want to make sure everyone’s fully informed about anything that could influence my opinion

[@711honved]

An objective & comprehensive review Richard. I'm looking at a tent for a 35 day backpack along the 630 mile SW Coast Path next May & have considered Lanshan. My concerns are the single skin, condensation, seam sealing & ability to withstand strong coastal winds. I've also seen reviews where it is said to be cold inside. Love the light weight & ease of pitch.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks. I’ve found the Lanshan tents to be able to withstand wind just fine - it may get ‘flappy’ but it’s always get me safe. The seam sealing is also pretty easy to do. The biggest drawback for me and UK users is the condensation due to its single layer

[@711honved]

@@RichardCheng Thanks for the constructive feedback. I think I'll wait to see what new offerings hit the market in 2021. Happy camping!

[@WiltshireMan]

Great review Richard, I have the Lanshan 1 original and the larger 2. Great tents, use the L1 a lot, no problems love it. I think with the ventilation around the bottom edge will keep condensation to a minimum but it physics. Cold air outside and you'll get some condensation, will be interesting to see how it copes. Sandy

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Sandy. I’m optimistic about how the Lanshan 1 Pro will perform. I’m definitely looking forward to being allowed to go camping again!

[@richbuilds_com]

I have the 1 and keep my the gap under my door a bit larger than I see in most pitches. You will get condensation, but if you can keep air circulating it'll carry the condensation out with it.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Richard, I definitely agree with that. I also try to pin the flysheet open whenever possible too

[@1invag]

@@richbuilds_com it sounds like you might as well just sleep under a tarp for all the wind protection it provides

[@richbuilds_com]

@@1invag I do that too out of bug season. I love my tarp :)

[@shan.kiiiii]

Fantastic review thanks Richard. You covered all the detail really well thank you

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you Shan

[@agatho00]

Good to know that is longer. I'm not that tall (180cm), but in Lanshan 1 (the original) I don't have enough space, especially with a Thermarest air mattress (which is taller than a foam mat). Maybe it's time for an upgrade. However, I like the fact that in the case of the original you can only bring the fly with you when there are no mosquitoes to bother you and you don't have to deal with very windy situations. This way you have: 448g for the fly with just one guy line [one that keeps it in place, in front of the door] and 19g the staff sack. And since the minimum number of pegs that are required is 6, another 60g.

[@RichardCheng]

Yep the way I see it it’s not a total direct upgrade, but it’s definitely better for taller people

[@RS.Outdoors]

Looks a great value tent and had thought about trying one myself. Just been catching up on your adventures and the Fisherfield brought back some memories. Keep getting out and look forward to your new trip videos after lockdown . Atb

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks, the Lanshan 1 Pro is still good value for money with all the little quality of life upgrades, even when accounting for the price rise. I’m really pleased with the new model and can’t wait go out with it

[@Dan.Chaytor]

Good preview of the pro Richard. Look forward to your findings. Regards from NZ

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Dan!

[@liamwalker3314]

Great review. I own the Lanshan 1 and I find the inner dimensions slightly too small. Looking forward to the follow up!

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Liam, hope you’re enjoying the Lanshan 1. The Lanshan 1 Pro is noticeably bigger than the original Lanshan 1. I’ll definitely be reporting back as well as featuring it in my hiking vlogs once we’re allowed to go camping again

[@hesgone6699]

Thanks, nice review! I use the lanshan 1 original a lot on cycle tours. I should try the pro

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks. I really like the Pro over the original Lanshan 1. The extra room is nice for changing in and out of cycling gear

[@5x5boy]

Love your content Richard. Are we ready for another update on the tent yet!? Also any plans for any long distance hikes in the UK?

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you. I actually just came back from a 4 day trip with the Lanshan 1 Pro, so a new video should be up later this month

[@davidwilson6635]

Thanks for your concise, informative review. I've just received one and need to seam seal it now. looking forward to having an opportunity to use it

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks David. Don’t worry too much about the seam sealing, it’s easy enough to do. I hope you get to use it this year 😊

[@davidwilson6635]

Thanks Richard. I put it up in the garden yesterday and seam sealed it (it was just about dry by the time it snowed later in the day!) Looking forward to using it

[@RichardCheng]

Nice one David, it sounds like you timed it to perfection

[@MicheleValentinuz]

I really like your reviews, honest and on interesting products. You made me want to hike again and sleep in a tent

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you Michele. It's the highest praise that I'm able to inspire you to go out and go camping 😃

[@sawdust4dinner322]

Lanshan 1 you can drop the inner for more space while cooking etc also having the option of no inner for supper lightweight 😉

[@RichardCheng]

Yea you can definitely do that, although I’m not brave enough to do that with the midge in Scotland

[@asylumman]

Thanks Richard. As always a helpful vid. The tip around setting the first two pegs was useful. I have the Flames Creed 2 pro but as yet have not had the opportunity to try it out. I am however, booked onto the New Zealand Abel Tasman Track. Carrying an extra one and a half kilos of lightweight camping equipment ,in my opinion, is preferable to staying in the huts.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks David. The Abel Tasman Track looks great, I’m very jealous. Hopefully you’ll love the Lanshan 2 Pro 😁

[@Mr57Nick]

1Thanks for your excellent review and comparison, have you used the additional footprint to the Lanshan 1 Pro? Looking forward to your next video - all the best

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Nick. I don’t use the proper footprint, but I normally use the Lanshan 1 Pro with a DIY polycro (window insulation) ‘footprint’ underneath which works great

[@rodrigosilveira4360]

Hi. Congrats for your video. I´m willing for your review on the condensation issues.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Rodrigo, I’ll make sure to keep everyone updated on the Lanshan 1 Pro

[@barrykimber]

Really clear & concise review, especially as I'm looking at getting one of these 👍

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks, great time to order one with the sales coming up

[@Nabagabo22]

Thanks Richard for this review. As and when you go hiking and camping again - please do a follow up video to let us know how you get on with internal condensation. I think you will find 3F are not so much up grading Lanshan 1 as matching to the Six Moons Design Lunar Solo - the Pro now looks to be a close match - although the Lunar Solo bath tub floor is a bit wider for the same length. Pro looks like a great hiking solo tent - excellent quality at an affordable price - I agree 3F are to be congratulated!

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you Steve, I’ll definitely be following up on the Lanshan 1 Pro

[@Nabagabo22]

Hi Richard, perhaps of interest 'two fools walking' on KZbin, multiday mountain trail walking and wild camping (GR 5 French Alps and GR 10 Pyrenees) - get this - with an insanely light load outs - even with several day's food on occasion between trail towns. Great viewing for Lock Down Britain...

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks for there commendation, I’ll give it a watch!

[@bigsky2081]

Thank you Richard, excellent review as always.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Big Sky 😊

[@SeagrasstoSassafras]

Fantastic review. Thank you for showing the packed weight of the Pro on a scale! Really helpful info 😁

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks! Glad my review was helpful 😄

[@pauljenkins2501]

Thank you for a thoughtful and honest review.

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you Paul

[@trytheoutdoors]

Thanks. Great video. Look forward to the update.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks imran

[@davids9549]

Great review Richard, and nice tip about the 125cm pole measure! I'm 5'11'' (and not very flexible) and bought a Lanshan 1 last year, set it up in my garden and immediately realised it was too small inside, so sold it on without ever using it. Then I bought this Pro version and it's great! I'll still use my Luxe Hexpeak V4A if I'm anticipating more challenging conditions, but this Lanshan 1 Pro seems ideal as a 3-season UK fairer-weather tent. Only 700g, full protection and enough space - what's not to like for £100? I've used it for a bit of 'stealth camping' in the local woods during the hysteria pandemic, and it has been excellent. Regarding the condensation issue, it's important to ensure the mesh 'band' between the fly and the bathtub is sloping downwards from the top edge of the bathtub, otherwise condensation will trip across the mesh and accumulate on the floor. This has caused some users a problem. I find you can achieve the correct angle by not having the pole set too high, and getting the bottom edges of the fly sufficiently low to the ground. It's quite tricky but practice helps! On uneven ground, though, it can be impossible. This is why the Lunar Solo (and other tents of similar design) incorporate a bungee cord arrangement inside the tent to raise the bathtub sides to get the correct angle that way, and I've seen someone modify their Lanshan 2 Pro with that arrangement. I've made an extra guyline which I attach to the exterior hanging loop at the apex of the tent and peg down to the front, just to add a bit of additional stability. All in all, I reckon this tent is going to prove a great hit with lightweight hikers - it really is a winner in my opinion.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks David for sharing your very detailed experience! I’ve got a couple of trips coming up later in on the year so your tips will come in handy

[@hansfranz8795]

Do you think the pro would be all right for somebody who's 195 cm / 6'5"? Doesn't need to have a ton of space, but of course it shouldn't be way too short either ... Thanks in advance!

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Hans it’s hard for me to say as you’re 15cm taller than me. If you use a very thin mat sleeping diagonally across or you’re a side sleeper who sleeps curled up then you may be able to fit inside the Pro. The 2 man tent I know from others’ experiences is bigger inside

[@hansfranz8795]

@@RichardCheng Wow, thanks for the lightning-fast response! Did not expect that. I guess I just gotta convince one of my shorter hiking buddies to get one and then try it out myself. :D

[@RichardCheng]

No worries at all Hans. I think someone has commented on here who was quite tall, but I can’t remember their exact height! Might be worth going through all the comments if you have the time

[@miguelalexiades6816]

Hi Richard, I love your videos man, so measured, informative and accurate, thanks so much for taking the time to make them and also to answer all questions. I actually have a question of my own which have not been able to answer by watching and reading reviews on the Lanshan. When the tent gets rained on, does it pick up any weight? This I understand is one of the problems of the Lunar pro, which is another tent I was considering... I was recently camping in the black forest with a borrowed hilliberg akto and that was one of the problems, the soaked tent was considerably heavier. Many thanks and look forward to you posting more on this tent.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Miguel, thank you so much. Yes the Lanshan does pick up weight when wet much like other silnylon tents. From experience I find that when packed away damp and carried for the day before pitching again, it dries out very quickly though. I hope that helps

[@miguelalexiades6816]

@@RichardCheng It does, thanks...in your estimation is the weight increase something that is noticeable, over 20% Thanks again!

[@RichardCheng]

Yes the difference is definitely noticeable, although it’s hard to say whether that’s purely down to the additional weight or just the wet feeling

[@miguelalexiades6816]

@@RichardCheng Thanks Richard, as you say, this issue is systemic insofar as it relates to the material, not the lanshan per se, but I was just wondering if there are differences between how different manufacturers use the material...I really appreciate your response in any case, look forward to your future videos

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Miguel, I’ve not noticed how the water retention is different from any other silnylon tent. They all seem to hold some water if packed away wet

[@MrWildWales]

Thanks for the concise review enjoyed it

[@RichardCheng]

No worries, glad it was useful

[@richbuilds_com]

I took the Lanshan 1 as my main tent for the C2C. I never had any condensation problems. I do have a larger gap under my door than I see in most pitches. The Pro looks a worthy upgrade but I bought a Flame Creed Xunshang at the end of last season as it has a bit more space in the vestibule for bad weather breakfasts and I'm itching to try it. If it doesn't work out I'll definitely be upgrading my Lanshan 1! Love your videos btw - not many UL youtubers in the UK. Hope to meet you on the trail some day :-)

[@RichardCheng]

Cheers Richard - if you ever see me just give me a shout, would love to stop for a chat. I wouldn’t say the condensation is a problem as such, more than in some circumstances it’s just something to be aware of; users can definitely minimise the condensation to avoid any issues

[@JTT2505]

Wish they would just make a slightly bigger double skin tent. Single skin in the cold, damp UK is asking for trouble imho.

[@RichardCheng]

I’ll be curious to see how actually does in the UK. The Lanshan 1 Pro is more or less an enclosed tarp with an attached netting, with decent ventilation options which could help with the condensation a bit. I’ll definitely report back

[@RobertRobbyBolton]

This is a copy of the zpacks Altaplex which I have, made of CF it doesn't have anyone issues of condensation running onto the bathtub floor.

[@363one363]

You forgot to take into account that Langshan 1, being two-layer, allows you to change the inner layer for 3 or 4 seasons. Which makes it more versatile for different seasons and weather conditions.

[@RichardCheng]

That’s a good point about the Lanshan 1, a feature I’ve never taken advantage of

[@pixxel8637]

First of all thanks for explaining seam sealing! I bought a tarp I still have to seal, where did you buy the silicone? Is it possibly to buy it in a local store, or just online? Also, I saw your Scotland bike packing video (it's great), what stick did you use to set up the tent?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi, I bought mine online, but should be available from outdoor stores, or you can even make it yourself! I have a link (affiliate) in the description to the SilNet I used. For my NC500 bikepacking trip I just used my trekking pole strapped to the crossbar of my bike. It’s an Enkeeo carbon fibre pole that’s no longer available

[@therealdrecu]

Any updates on the lanshan 1 pro condensation issue? I'm holding back to buy it until I know how bad it is with this tent.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Michel, with the Lanshan 1 Pro it’s pretty much as expected with a single layer tent in the UK. So far when the conditions aren’t great for condensation (humid, cold air), I’ve had a wipe away condensation that forms on the inner of the fly sheet. It is manageable but the condensation is also noticeable.

[@richardabazley]

Nice review. I'm about to drop some money on the Naturehike Vik 1 because I don't have a freestanding tent, but these look sturdier. I might go for the 2 in the Tasmanian summer..

[@RichardCheng]

I have the Naturehike Taga 2 which is pretty similar to the Vik which I’ve used and enjoyed. It’s very spacious and easy to set up. I hope you enjoy your Vik 1!

[@losFondos]

What mat are you using in this video? Is it insulated? Nice review!

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you. I use the OEX Fulcrum EV 2018 mat. It’s insulated and comfortable enough down to below freezing

[@elstennapel]

Nice review, thanks!

[@RichardCheng]

You’re very welcome

[@RugNutz]

Great review. I have come back and watched this video a few times as well as your travel videos. Just finished watching your bike trip. I am curious as to how you are making out with the Pro and condensation. I am looking to replace my existing free standing tent with a more lightweight option. The Lanshan 1 Pro seems to fit the bill but the single wall construction has me worried as I live in the east coast of Canada and humidity and wet weather is a common occurrence. I know you mentioned it briefly in the bike trip video, but now that you have used the tent a bit, is the condensation a significant issue for you?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi, first of all thank you. The condensation in the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro is noticeable but manageable. If you select your campsite well and pitch with plenty of ventilation you’ll most likely be fine. Worst case I use my microfibre towel to wipe any condensation off and that does the trick for me, even whilst using a down quilt like on the NC500. Condensation is the single biggest issue with the Lanshan 1 Pro for me in the UK, but that’s because otherwise the Lanshan 1 Pro doesn’t have many flaws!

[@RugNutz]

@@RichardCheng Good to hear. Thank you so much for the very quick response. I look forward to your future review videos and still enjoy the travel videos as well. You have a great candor and attention to details that I very much appreciate. Stay safe and enjoy the upcoming camping season.

[@RichardCheng]

You too mate, and thank you for the support

[@MrDanAng1]

Thank you for a good video. I think it's worth mentioning that the new double silicon fabric on the Pro tent is also an upgrade from 15 to 20 denier nylon, so the material of the Pro is both stronger because it is sturdier textile AND it has double silicon, which make it even stronger. For me, the most significant difference of the Pro is the space! The old tent felt just a bit too short, the new one feel like a palace! Lenghtwise, I think your 185 cm/6"1' is a very conservative estimate, the tent is not only 20 cm/8 inch longer, it is also 10 cm/4 inch higher since there is no inner tent. IMO it fit a 195-200 cm person. Having to seam-seal it isn't ideal, but it's no big deal, since the old Lanshan must be/should be seam-sealed at some points anyway, it is a 5-10 minute difference in a job that has to be done anyway. From my so far moderate experience with the Pro, it is better than average with regards to condensation... but of course, is condensation a dealbreaker for someone, then they should go for the old one with innertent, because condensation happens... we can just limit it with choice of campsite and a footprint on the vestibule ground. Just my two cents! 🙂

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Daniel, some very good points especially around the new material

[@cavehillrock...wildcamping]

Hi Richard, I have the L1 & 2 and find them both great until it gets windy - these tents flap about like a flag, and with the fly not going near enough the ground the problem is magnified. On one outing the wind was blowing the rain through the L1 air vent! Other than that I'm actually pretty happy with both! atb Sinco

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Sinco, I’ve taken my Lanshan 1 out in some pretty strong winds and like you said it does flap around, but I haven’t found this to be a massive issue. It shakes around and is a bit unnerving, but it’s always held up just fine

[@driewiel]

I use 2 pegs for the front and overlap the the door(s). Don't even need the zip. This way it will be nice and taut.

[@RichardCheng]

Good idea Drie, thank you for sharing

[@mountainrunner1955]

nice reviews! any news about the tent? could you try it some more times? would you prefer the 1 pro instead of the normal one? do you see noticeable differences in the double silnylon fabric of the pro?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Michael, the Pro has been so far so good. Condensation is manageable since I wipe away the condensation with a micro fibre cloth. I really like the extra space you get in the Pro, makes camping so much more comfortable

[@linus631]

Thank you, very helpful video

[@pichayadmitaree7521]

Thanks for the awesome review. I am getting this tent and I am thinking should I need the footprint? Is the footprint a must have or it is okay not to have? Thanks ... 🙏

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks, I don’t have nor use the footprint with the tent. Sometime I take a piece of window insulation (polycro) as an ultralight DIY groundsheet that weighs less than 50g.

[@pichayadmitaree7521]

@@RichardCheng And I am wondering about 3 seasons and 4 seasons tent. What are the differences and what seasons are missing in the 3 seasons? Thanks mate ✌️

[@RichardCheng]

I’m not really sure to be quite honest as I only have the one 3F Lanshan 1 Pro which I really like

[@eryahs]

Hey Richard, thanks for the nice video. Now after owning it for a while, would you still recommend it to someone who is looking for a light yet affordable tent? I want to hike 6 days of Kungsleden in July and am quite curious how well it will withstand rain, also Im a little hesistant because condensation in a single wall tent? Would be awesome to get a response. BR to you

[@RichardCheng]

Hi, yes I would recommend it. Condensation is the only issue with the tent, but it can be mitigated through choosing where to pitch, venting the tent, or simply wipe it down. It’s the tent I grab when I head out

[@dom4223]

Hello, Thank you for this excellent video. A very good presentation of this tent. I have just ordered this tent, and I'm looking forward to receiving it so I can test it in the field. I hope you'll be able to give us your impressions of the condensation when you test it.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Don, thank you. I’ll definitely report back with how I get on with it, I have a couple of upcoming trips planned for when lockdown eases in Scotland

[@dom4223]

@@RichardCheng Ok. Thank you

[@driellysouza2408]

hello! great video! have you been able to test it out with a rain / wet weather ? I live in Ireland so that’s a big concern . Thank you!!

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Drielly, in Scotland the lockdown has only recently been lifted to allow us to go camping. I’ve got a couple of trips where I’ll be using the Lanshan 1 Pro to test it out, and I’ll definitely be reporting back so please stay tuned. If you’re asking about the waterproof ness I’ve full confidence in 3F from my experience with the Lanshan 1, but it’s just a matter of how it handles condensation.

[@HikingWithMartin]

Hi Richard, hope you are well. There is a new update to the lanshan 1 pro it seems for 2021 which is larger again and seems to be the same weight. Do you think you will get one? Im thinking of buying one in khaki-brown colour as I think that looks like a good camo colour too.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Martin, I have not seen the new 2021 version but I’m happy with the size of my Lanshan 1 Pro already, if anything it’s a little larger than what I need and if it was slightly smaller the reduced footprint size would be nice for wild camping

[@HikingWithMartin]

@@RichardCheng thanks Richard I think I will get it as I would probably like that extra space, thanks for your excellent review

[@RichardCheng]

No worries at all Martin, I hope you like your Lanshan 1 Pro!

[@miguelshaw5309]

Killer review ...thanks

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Migulos

[@PINACI]

Would you say that the Lanshan 1 has the same condensation issue as the Lanshan 1 pro ?

[@RichardCheng]

I’d say being double layered, the Lanshan 1 is better at handling condensation than the Pro, but it’s manageable in the Pro

[@PINACI]

@@RichardCheng OK, Thanks for the fast reply. I'm still in two minds as to which one to get but if they had the same amount of condensation then probably would go straight for the single skin pro and buy a sponge cloth.

[@ejeskirowing]

Hi Richard, I just ordered a 1pro because of your great review . I’m however still a bit puzzled about the exact pole height you need. Opinions seem to vary between 125 and 135 cm. What is your opinion?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Ernst-Jan. The Lanshan 1 and Lanshan Pro are more like tarps than traditional tents, so depending on the pitch the pole heigh can vary. I normally set my pole at 125cm, and it seems like it works very well for the Lanshan 1 Pro. The 125cm is also how far apart the pegs are incidentally which can help with the pitch too. I hope that helps.

[@ejeskirowing]

@@RichardCheng thanks for your very fast reply. I get it now. I think I'll order a 125cm carbon pole for the tent since I never use trekking poles. Not even when I trekked to Everest base camp last year.

[@RichardCheng]

No worries at all, if you don’t use trekking poles the carbon fibre ones are a great idea. Myself and my hiking friends love trekking poles though and really find it useful towards the end of the day especially

[@oldunion]

my 2017 and 2019 regular lanshan had YKK zips, it is on the side where the zipper pull is attached.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks for reporting this - I’m just confirming that the Lanshan 1 Pro definitely has the visible YKK marking, as well as the zip feeling smoother to pull

[@sachamuller4624]

Hello, i am really planning to buy that Lanshan 1 Pro. Do you think it is still the best choice on the market today ? Thanks

[@RichardCheng]

Hi, for me it would be between the Pro and the Plus as the choice for a budget ultralight tent

[@MarkSweeting_]

Hi. The tent seems very flappy. Also very high off the ground. Could you not make it any more taught or lower? Thanks. Very informative video

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Mark, the Lanshan 1 and the Lanshan 1 Pro are quite ‘flappy’ in high wind as they’re more like tarps than a traditional tent. This was filmed on a hill on quite a gusty and windy day. It can definitely be pitched lower, and I could’ve pitched it more taught with better terrain too

[@philip771]

Excellent, informative video. Well done! Just remember to smile - you're great!!

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Philip, excellent tip

[@jamesfox899]

Thank you for the review! I just bought lanshan2pro. Question is: can i use seam grip+wo instead of silnet ? Thank you

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Giacomo, I’m not an expert so I won’t pretend to know the answer to your question. I can only say from my experience SilNet definitely works with the Lanshan Pro

[@TheMaecki]

So, any comments on condensation? I'm also a bit worried about that 1 layer.

[@RichardCheng]

No problems with the condensation that can’t be dealt with. I bring a small cloth to wipe condensation away which deals with any issues nicely

[@gonewild1220]

Nice one Richard!!! Cheers 🙏👣

[@RichardCheng]

Cheers Jodz! 👋🏻

[@sorvoja]

You did not describe the difference in star gazing capabilities between the tents, I guess that is a major issue now with a single layer? I would really appreciate your views on this. Thanks.

[@RichardCheng]

With the Lanshan 1 Pro you will always have the fly sheet, you won’t be able to pitch inner net only

[@sorvoja]

@@RichardCheng thanks

[@marct9942]

In Europe we're having a hard time finding the 3F Lanshan. They do offer the Kikilive Lanshan. Are you familiar with this brand compared to 3F?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Marc, I’ve only got experience of 3F’s products although I know they also an OEM behind other brands. My experience with 3F directly through AliExpress has been great, they’re very responsive and helpful. Sorry I can’t be of more help

[@marct9942]

@@RichardCheng Thanks for the reply.

[@lesleyphillip9423]

Basic question: how to set-up main guyline? This tent comes with no instructions.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Lesley, are you talking about the one attached near the door? You hook the loops on to both sides of the buckle, and peg it out.

[@tour-pak1751]

Well i just bit the bullet and bought the pro 1 I read many reviews and studied heaps of KZbin videos My main concern was to have a light weight spacious tent that i could use for hiking and bicycle touring the lanshan 1 pro appears to have ticked all the boxes and will replace my msr hubba I will have to buy an additional pole for when i use the tent for bicycle touring Look forward to more advise on dealing with condensation however i have never had problems with condensation in the past I am presuming that our conditions in Australia might be a significant factor? Thanks for the great review

[@RichardCheng]

Hi, yes, the UK is pretty bad for condensation because of the cooler air and the humid conditions. You may not have much of an issue in Australia

[@lss5144]

Hi, What’s the main difference between Lanshan 1 and Flame Creed 1? Which one would you recommend? Thank you.

[@RichardCheng]

I’ve confirmed it with 3F there is no difference other than branding and warranty

[@couchumina]

Is there much difference in pack size. Only have small backpack and every bit of spare space helps

[@RichardCheng]

Not a huge difference but the pro packs smaller

[@Chiz1992]

Hi do you know if you can zip up the outer tent from the inside?

[@RichardCheng]

Yes you definitely can. I’ve zipped up the flysheet during the night from my sleeping bag many times

[@georgemartin6389]

Hi how do you think this compares to the zpaks tent? I've been thinking about getting one for a while now but the cost is so much this looks exactly the same, same material/ weight, let me know when youve tested it in the wide world I'd be interested in getting one!

[@RichardCheng]

Hi George, I’ve not had the Zpacks tent so can’t really comment on how it compares. The Lanshan 1 Pro has been great though, very spacious and roomy inside, don’t regret taking it on my trips one bit

[@TheRodNemisis]

Hey Richard, do you think a groundsheet would be necessary?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Rod, I don’t think it’s necessary and I’ve gone on trips without it - no damage to my tent so far. I bring and use a polycro (window insulation) ground sheet when I can just for peace of mind

[@TheRodNemisis]

@@RichardCheng Great, thanks for the quick reply!

[@RichardCheng]

No worries at all, happy to help

[@stuartmiller8053]

Great review thanks. Interested if you or any of your followers who are on the large side can give their opinion of fit. Im 189cm and 100kg (on a good day) and worried it will be too small. Kind regards

[@RichardCheng]

Hey Stuart, it may be a bit tight length wise, but you may be able to squeeze in. It also depends on your sleeping mat, a thin foam mat gives me an extra 3-5cm over a thick air mat!

[@easyrider2581]

hi! how tall are you? I'm 1.90 mt and I don't know if I will fit into the lanshan 1

[@RichardCheng]

I’m 180cm tall, you’ll have a hard time fitting into a Lanshan 1. You’ll probably be much better with the Lanshan 1 Pro which has more room inside

[@0T13]

Would you mind testing this out with your walking poles set to 120cm? Mine aren't adjustable

[@RichardCheng]

You can pitch at 120cm just fine

[@0T13]

@@RichardCheng awesome. Thanks :)

[@mginelli76]

volevo comprarla, lho trovata su aliexpress ma leggo che serve mettere una colla sulle cuciture... che colla serve?

[@RichardCheng]

Sorry Marco my Italian ability is non existent. If you’re asking about what glue is needed to seam seal i used SilNet which is linked in the description

[@bryanshaw38]

Really stuck which version to get. The normal or the pro.

[@RichardCheng]

If you’re 178cm or above or want more space I think the pro would be my choice. The normal version has a smaller footprint, is cheaper, and is double layered if you value that

[@banshee107]

Good review

[@RichardCheng]

Thank you very much

[@LateNightSummerRain]

Did you try making tent at night?

[@RichardCheng]

Making as in pitching? If so yes, the tent is easy to pitch once you’ve done it a few times

[@sp3k1974]

The Lanshan 1 already had 2 versions, one with 2 layers and 1 with 1 layer. I had the one with only 1 layer and returned it after a 2 day hike, I woke up with a river of condensation inside. It was 2 very humid days, but still... I got the lashan 2 person version instead, not that much extra weight. You can even fit 2 people inside and haven't had any problems with condensation or rain water. I've also used it for a night under a very heavy storm with no problems at all.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Henrique, did you get the 3F ‘pyramid’ tent instead of the Lanshan? I know that tent doesn’t handle condensation well at all

[@moltam99]

The Lanshan 1 original had two layers. The unnamed or "Solo" tent which is very similar to the Lanshan 1 had one layer. The Lanshan 2 requires two trekking poles, and has two layers. There was a Lanshan 1 and 2 Upgrade, which brought minimal changes and a new, darker green color, still two layers. Then there was the "Pyramid" tent, which is a two layer tent similar to the Lanshan 1, but much bigger inside. It requires a 140 cm pole as well, and has all the upgrades that you talked about in this video. This tent was basically unsearchable on Aliexpress, so they renamed it Lanshan 2019. And now we have to Lanshan 1 Pro :) I think Henrique meant the Lanshan 2. If you mean the Pyramid / Lanshan 2019, that doesn't really have condensation issues, I mean it has, but only to the extent of the Lanshan 1. You have to pitch the outside layer higher, and it's fine. I guess people complained because they used a 130cm pole and couldn't get it high enough and that caused condensation. I think 3F recommends a 135 cm pole, but anything below 140 will not work. I got some carbon tentpoles for bikepacking, and with those I can finally pitch it without an extender.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks for clarifying that Tamás, that’s really helpful on all the 3F tent models

[@moltam99]

@@RichardCheng I just read a comment from the official 3F UL KZbin channel, they are calling the Pyramid the "Leaning Tower" now :D Someone should really make an Excel out of this.

[@RichardCheng]

Great info, thanks again for reporting back!

[@nukanokwantmk8882]

Where can I buy a glue for seal?

[@RichardCheng]

I used SilNet which can be found on Amazon. I have the links (affiliate) in the video description. You can also make it or buy it from other outdoor stores

[@nukanokwantmk8882]

@@RichardCheng yes,I saw when search in google. Just asked you a glue but Lanshan tent was canceled by shop from lazada as 2nd time. It looks like the unavailable item,Lanshan 1 Pro.

[@RichardCheng]

Glad you found it okay

[@igorstrauss7335]

Wish to now difference between 3F UL and Flames Creed. I now you don't have this answer.

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Igor, as far as I can tell Flames Creed is just alternative branding for 3F

[@igorstrauss7335]

@@RichardCheng yeah, but for some reason flames creed are more cheap than 3F. That's bad if flames creed have worse quality of material, ore something like that

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Igor, I just confirmed with 3F that there are no differences between 3F and Flames Creed apart from branding

[@darkofighter1]

@@igorstrauss7335 my flamescreed lanshan 2 weighs 100 grams more than 3f ul version лучше уж от 3ф ул

[@yarenyal]

I don't understand the language you speak in the video, to summarize, which one should I buy?

[@RichardCheng]

Hi Yaren, KZbin is able to provide decent auto translated captions if that’s an option to you. Otherwise I think for most people the Lanshan 1 Pro is likely to be the better choice

[@MrShankspony]

Tai hao le! Good review wo pengyou. Xie xie!

[@RichardCheng]

No problem at all, thanks!

[@siegeengine1670]

Prepare a large rag and a repeating alarm for the night.

[@RichardCheng]

I find a small microfibre cloth is more than enough for wiping away the condensation

[@siegeengine1670]

@@RichardCheng 👍

[@5x5boy]

I wonder how long until they make a DCF version!?

[@RichardCheng]

That would be cool to see for sure

[@largol33t1]

Wait, I have a question: do you HAVE to already have a walking stick to support the tent? Or does it come with one?

[@RichardCheng]

It’s a trekking pole tent so you need a stick of around 125cm to support the tent. You don’t necessarily need a trekking pole, you can use any rod of around that length to set it up

[@krumelmonsterchen8389]

The new Lanshan 1 is now 20cm longer than the old one ;-)

[@RichardCheng]

A longer model should make it suitable for more people without much of a weight penalty

[@SublimatedIce]

Wish they made this tent for tall people. At least 200cm.

[@RichardCheng]

The Lanshan 1 Pro is more roomy but I don’t think it’s that roomy. Maybe the Lanshan 2 Pro will work if you slept in it diagonally?

[@bsykesthomp1]

I’m 194cm and it’s plenty long for me with a foam mat！

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks for reporting that Ben!

[@krachedloolom]

I’m follow your channel.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks!

[@McStoolio]

Jesus, it doesn't half flap about mate. Not sure I could sleep with that flapping going on. Looks like you are pitching this up the braids, which is exposed, but still..

[@RichardCheng]

Hi, this was on a pretty windy day, and the tent was completely empty which exaggerates the ‘flappiness’. You could also choose to pitch the 3F Lanshan lower too if you prefer

[@McStoolio]

@@RichardCheng I guess, but I suppose it highlights the limitations of these single pole designs - stability sacrificed for weight reduction. I had a look for a longer term review, have you done one yet or actually used it for a trip? Looks like you have some good content, I'm off to the Cairngorms, bikepacking, in a couple of weeks. I'll check out some of your videos. Thanks

[@RichardCheng]

I’ve used it as my main tent for the past year, including on the NC500. No concerns about the stability for me, especially after having used the normal Lanshan 1 extensively

[@willisbcteoh9840]

😂

[@driewiel]

There is nothing Pro about a single layer tent. And the extra space you need so you don't touch the wet fabric. Which you probably will anyhow. So sorry, no Lanshan Pro for me. I'll stick with the old one.

[@RichardCheng]

From reading the description the ‘Pro’ comes from the upgraded silnylon and it being a new version. I’m curious to find how it fares later this month 😃

[@driewiel]

@@RichardCheng Here's a test for you. Weigh everything in the morning when it is still wet. I wouldn't be surprised if the double layer Lanshan keeps your stuff dryer and thus lighter. Already people are modifying their Lanshan Pro because the bathtub floor is lower than the mesh. So condensation drips on your sleeping bag. I won't even mention condensation droplets falling on your face when it rains. That's why they call it Chinese water-torture: Because they sell you a single wall tent!

[@driewiel]

@@RichardCheng And oh. Couple of days ago, day before last of my trip, I lost my Luxe Hexpeak V4a. It fell off my bike!!! ( or rather recumbent trike) I thought I heard something. Didn't stop. Luckily I used it with the Lanshan inner and also carried the Lanshan fly. Surprisingly the Lanshan was much dryer in the morning. No condensation in the rain. I actually like it more then the Hexpeak. With the inside points to pull the nest out it also gives more space. I think I will order a nice 1.60mtr high Aricxi outer tent in case I want a large vestibule. But come on, 1170 grams with pole!! I love the Lanshan 1. The Pro version absolutely not. The only single wall I buy would be cuben fiber. Because it doesn't absorb water. Although chances are I wouldn't even want cuben once tried.

[@acnud]

Thanks for the review so far, I will be interested in your thoughts once you get out in it. I have the flames creed 2 and really like it for size, weight and price.

[@RichardCheng]

Thanks Duncan, I’ll definitely report back. First impressions on the Lanshan 1 pro are great

[@Autonomous15]

Why is there a constant ticking or snapping in the background audio?

[@RichardCheng]

I’m honestly not sure, maybe background noise at a guess? Sorry about that