3F UL GEAR Lanshan 1 Pro - First pitch, seam sealing and mods! ⛺️

Unboxing, first pitch, seam sealing and modifying the Lanshan 1 Pro tent from 3F UL GEAR.
I'm starting to pull together a more lightweight setup to plan some multi-day hikes/camps for next year. As I slowly work through my kit and replace it with cheap lightweight kit, I want to make sure it all works properly before I head out on my adventures. So, as I get new bits of budget ultralight gear I'll be testing it out on my 'regular' camps. Better safe than sorry!
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[@camperlists7090]

This tent is perfect for those who are looking to dip their toes into 1 person trekking pole tents without having to break the bank right away.

[@shabingly]

Handy having a back garden to pitch the thing, I had to do the 2 tents I've done in the loft 😆 I used the same sealant, goes further and looks less messy if you thin it with a bit of white spirit. Can get it in the nooks and crannies easier then too. I bought the non-pro so I only had to seal the guy-out seams tbh. The one thing that proper wound me up is the footprint not covering the floor of the vestibule. Dunno why it annoys me, but it does.

[@Lee-70ish]

Only just started watching your post ive subed as its looks good. Nice to see a channel that doesnt throw money at gear then say wow this 600 quid is really good. I should bloody well hope so at that price. This little Lan Shan looks good for the price compared to other lightweights, seam sealing is not the end of the world. Especially compared to the old messawaxing you had to do on canvas tents.good review I'll stick with my 10 year old Golite Tipi even with its little hole patch With the bath tub floor and inner I spent a week on a Scottish Island (TEXA) at minus 5 nights and pouring rain but was fine. Without the bath tub and a piece of Tyvek it is ultralight specially using the walking pole extension for the centre pole. For one person its huge.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers Lee, Thanks for watching mate 👍

[@stephen4600]

Great video tutorial Ben , I try to go lightweight but somehow I end up the same ,guess I'm to fond of my little luxuries.👍👍. Thanks for sharing.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers mate 👍

[@mphigham1963]

Cheers Ben, I`ve just ordered this tent based on some excellent reviews by you and Hazy. Mine`s in green though. I think it`s ideal for some fell camping with weight and price being key ! 😀

[@daleyoutdoors]

It’s a great tent mate. It should serve you well 👍

[@thebikepackingadventurer]

Nice video, definitely the tent I would have for hiking trips where you already have poles

[@barneyrubble5801]

Dude! You live in the UK and couldn't find a day with rain?!? Haha. Must have been having a pint at the pub. Good video. Only thing to add would be to spray some Permethrin around the bottom of the tent to push back on creepy crawlies. Cheers!

[@daleyoutdoors]

😆 Thanks for watching mate 👍

[@NoviceWildCamper]

My OCD was kicking in using white bungy cords 😂 mines all black. Good tips though. 👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

Haha - I had some spare white stuff lying around so used that up 👍

[@KernowCamps]

You didn't say anything about them on mine this weekend

[@NoviceWildCamper]

@@KernowCamps didn't notice you had white ones. Although it was dark when I got there. And you tripped over mine so much 🤣

[@KernowCamps]

@@NoviceWildCamper Yeah, I tripped on them cos they're black! Couldn't see them 😁

[@NoviceWildCamper]

@@KernowCamps 🤣 no, you tripped on the bloody reflective ones 😂

[@davidharrison1346]

Did look at these as a lightweight optian but too many reviews pointed out the bad condensation. Opted for the vango helium 1 in the end, its double skinned and comes in at a mere 1.2 kilos very happy with it. Like to hear your verdict on this one ben. Keep up the good work👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers David 👍

[@southcoastoutdoorsuk6301]

Cracking tent ,really light , use the provided syringe to get a really neat bead only need half a tube of silnet 👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

Ah yes I should have tried that. I went with the brush to apply a bit more and get into all the fiddly bits but the syringe would have probably been neater 👍

[@linedwell]

So I got myself.... a cryin', talkin' Sleepin', walkin', livin' doll Gotta do my best to please her Just 'cos she's a livin' doll... (Yes I'm old enough to remember that song... 😜)

[@badfairy9554]

Oh The Young Ones. Do you have a Hole in your shoe?

[@davemcw.2803]

I seam sealed my Lanshan 2 Pro with a sealant that just pulled out in long strips when I used the tent for the first time. Re-did it last weekend with the stuff you used, (looks a lot better) but didn’t do the seams that ran along the bottom. Left the tent up all night in the rain. Next day, full of water. Guess i need to do those bottom seams with the new sealant 🤔. I think I’ll copy your mods for the bathtub corners too - thanks!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Ah cheers Dave, sounds like I’ll have to do those bottom seams then 🤦‍♂️

[@ramblingracheltrailtales]

Great video. i hope the Lanshan 1 works out for you. Only time will tell.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Rachel. I’m looking forward to trying it out 👍

[@justinsaint6786]

Nice vid Ben 👍 Your sealing looked pretty neat. Looking forward to seeing you put your light weight kit together. What's next on your list ?

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’ve got a sleep mat to test out on my next camp - it’s not ‘mega’ light at 400g but it’s meant to have some insulation from a foil coating. We’ll see how it performs once the temperatures drop… 🥶

[@Flexaret]

I really like the look of the Lanshan 1, I'd looked at them earlier in the year and had mentioned it to you so when you mentioned you were getting one I decided to wait to hear your verdict. Perhaps the weight saving over the Lanshan 2 isn't massive but I like the idea of having only one pole to put in place, great colour too, would have been my choice although I was intending getting the version with the separate inner (Non Pro version?). I like the mods you've done, I'd have done the same (apart from the sealer as I make my own) especially the shockcord on the inner tie out points, I don't like fixed length cord tie-outs as they restrict where you can place the peg plus the shockcord gives the inner a bit of flex when you're moving around inside and the shockcord on the door is just a simpler solution. Not sure whether I should wait for your review or just go ahead and get one, looks pretty good to me. As always, good video, thanks for sharing, Thumbs Up :-)

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks for watching mate. It depends on when you want one for really - it’ll probably be 3-4 weeks before I can take this out and use it for a proper test.

[@Curlew-Corner]

Another interesting video, Ben. Thanks.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Emma!

[@fernblick5574]

Hi and hello, thank you for this video. What size tube did you use for sealing the Lanshan1Pro? SeamGrip+Sil 28g/1oz or 42g/1.5oz ?

[@daleyoutdoors]

The smaller tube is more than enough 👍

[@wildtroutangler]

Looking forward to the tent review, nice video.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks 👍

[@outdooradventure4590]

Great vid mate, think I'm doing to make the the bungy longer on the doors, those plastic clips don't look or feel strong.

[@FlorinSirbu.]

Well Ben, thank you for sharing. Interesting changes you’ve done and all better then the initial setup. How do you think the door bungees will hold in strong winds? If swapping the bungees and replacing with guy lines and adjusters, would that be a plus, or even possible ? I’ve got my Lanshan 1 Plus 2021 and I am trying to figure it out a better/stronger door solution that would hold in strong winds. Regards, Florin

[@daleyoutdoors]

Hey Florin, it’s held so far for me, it’s all down to using a peg with a decent cutout and keeping some tension in the bungee 👍

[@FlorinSirbu.]

@@daleyoutdoors cheers Ben.

[@AnthonyJohnson1]

Looks a decent tent Ben. Liking the weight of it too so ideal for the multi day stuff. Do you have any trails in mind yet for the spring?

[@daleyoutdoors]

Looks good so far 👍 I’ve no idea yet to be honest. I’ll probably start with a few 2-3 day wanders around the peaks and work my way up from there. I like the idea of the C2C but need some fitness first 😁

[@whatsnottohike]

For size, weight, colour and style, I really like this tent. However, they're notorious for condensation and I think having to seam seal is taking the micky. That's why I've decided to go for the Sierra Designs Clearwing 2. It's a bit heavier but has the ability to stargaze as well as big vestibules and nice design. Be interesting to see how you get on with this Lanshan, especially the condensation issue. Brilliant in depth look at the tent though, nice one :-)

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks for watching mate 👍 yea I’ve heard about the condensation woes so am expecting to take a mop with me 😁

[@billpetersen298]

Is the Sierra designs clearwing 2, also made in China? I’m trying to not support the Chinese government and military.

[@whatsnottohike]

@@billpetersen298 I believe they are made in Colorado. Before that, California.

[@billpetersen298]

Great, thank you.

[@craoutdoors6827]

great video as ever! Lanshan looks like a great addition. Finally uploaded my first video yesterday just a short one on a walk i did a few months back. Quick question where do you go to add your music onto videos and how do you address copyrights etc? Cheers

[@daleyoutdoors]

thanks mate 👍 I use epidemic sound. They take care of licensing automatically 😎

[@craoutdoors6827]

@@daleyoutdoors ok cheers I ll have a look for that then👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@craoutdoors6827 there are plenty of free tracks in KZbin studio for free as well. I used those to get started 👍

[@craoutdoors6827]

@@daleyoutdoors yeah I ve seen that on your vids before and also other subscriptions , andy beevers , paul messner and lots of others have used youtube studio.

[@Cloudwalker136]

Thanks.

[@advanturecantstop901]

my backpack from 3F gear..they do very good quality items..as a tent i didn't want deal with sealing, so i bought Gossamergear the one..and just bought the Two..gossamer gear lighter weight but only 1 wall..i was thinking buy 3F 2 pro but didn't..dropped my weight than added 11oz with XL another rain cover..just testing it how works..the rain cover from aliexpress too and 210cmx300cm only 310gr and i think 15D Nylon.. i am thinking use it under snow for extra cover..and see how goes..poles i bought from Nature hike, and 130cm each only 145gr and alloy head..they sell 1 for $49 (pear is $104)..i use 3F UL 40 plus 16lt water repellent backpack from them..and i like it ..light weight and no frame that way backpack gets shape of person back side, and comfort carry..only it is not wide diameter so kind of putting big stuff little bit hard..to do i use dry suck bag which is only 5 oz 40lt one from sea to summit..i put in almost everything as an order (night clothes/sleeping bag/air pad/sleeping bag cover/liner) and compress them, take air out from valve (valve i patched on and works well, i got it from heavy duty military waterproof bag) with that everything stays perfect dry and goes in bag easy..than have a lot space for tent/footprint/extra rain cover if i us/cooking gear/food..all weight goes under 20lbs..

[@martyn.kilner]

Hey, I'm interested to know what diameter bungee cord you used?

[@daleyoutdoors]

I think it was 3mm

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

Are the guy lines provided for the sides mate?

[@daleyoutdoors]

Yes they come with the tent, I just hadn't attached them here 👍

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

@@daleyoutdoors I’ve just bought this tent. 😃

[@soomay9855]

I don’t think I could cope with such a small area far too claustrophobic. Still saving my pocket money for Lanshan 2!!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Yes go for the Lanshan 2. I’m only trying this out to try and put together an ‘ultralight’ setup on a budget 👍

[@marksadventures3889]

That looks like a new housing estate. The tent looks tiny. The colour is good for stealth. You wouldn't have needed the hose over here.

[@daleyoutdoors]

It feels quite spacious inside - this one is bigger than the previous model which would have been too small. I do love the khaki colour they use 👍

[@paultownley5825]

Not just me who has a "spares box" then 😂👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

You gotta have a spares box 😂

[@paultownley5825]

@@daleyoutdoors It used to be cables and remotes. No its pegs and ropes 😂

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@paultownley5825 don’t forget repair patches and line locks 😁

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

Has the bath tub got a tag at the top of the corner? There’s one at the bottom to pull the bathtub taut but is there one at the top of the bath tub?

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’m not sure mate. I don’t have the tent anymore to check.

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

@@daleyoutdoors what’s your tent of choice now mate?

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@Northern_Rockhopper I’ve got a Taiji 2, Helm 1 Compact, and a Cloud Peak 2.

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

@@daleyoutdoors mint

[@johnhughes9381]

Great vid mate Still don’t get why these tents aren’t sealed at factory it can’t cost that much more for the Brands to do it for you 👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers John 👍 I think it’s something to do with restrictions on shipping the chemicals used in the sealant but not 100% sure. It is a pain in the arse though 😁

[@KernowCamps]

Machines can seal the seams with tape on non-silnylon tents, but this would have to be painted on by hand, meaning each tent would have to be erected in a space, with a human being manually painting on the sealant, while the space stays occupied for several hours for the sealant to dry. The cost of the space and the humans to do the works as well as the fact that manufacturing would have to be slowed (or end up with a massive backlog of tents to seal) would exponentially increase the production cost and make it far more expensive at retail.

[@davidclegg1655]

Just ordered mine Ben you should be on commission, I have been thinking about for a while now TBH

[@daleyoutdoors]

I wish 😁hope you enjoy it mate 👍

[@bronxbomber0079]

Isn’t it supposed to be sealed on the inside?

[@daleyoutdoors]

Not that I’ve seen/read no. I’ve only seen it done on the outside.

[@Samtuvelo]

why dont they pre-treat the seams?

[@daleyoutdoors]

A few manufacturers don’t. I believe the main reason is cost. If they spent time treating them, space setting up the tent and space/time for it to dry they’d be twice the price.

[@Samtuvelo]

@@daleyoutdoors well reasoned.

[@badfairy9554]

I am loving your bar. I will have a JD please.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks 😁

[@badfairy9554]

@@daleyoutdoors LOL no,no thank you.

[@tourcheverybridge]

To me for £140 I would like a seem sealed tent… probably why just bought the OEX JACKLE … ok ok….. but for £65 I also bought the new PHOXX 11..seam sealed..but each to there own..no medal again …dammmm ps yes i understand it’s a weight thing hence the money.. but me PHOXX11 was light. Just getting that in before I get ripped to shreds

[@stuartsteele9984]

The problem with tents that do not extend to the ground is that wind, rain and snow can easily enter the tent. Additionally, you require a warmer sleeping bag or quilt for warmth. Simply put, a tent that extends to the ground has a warmer environment. You wouldn't need to waterproof the seams if the manufacturer used glue construction instead of sewing and the cost of the tent would be conceivably less and lighter.

[@GrizzleGear]

The tent doesn't have to extend to the ground. There is a bathtub floor which prevents rain from splashing up underneath the fly. This is a single wall tent. You want as much air flow as you can possibly get to prevent condensation. Extend the tent walls all the way down to the ground, and you get absolutely no ventilation, and condensation will rain on you all night long. Tents are designed this way for a reason. Also, this tent is made of silnylon. You can't "tape" the seams. If it was silpoly, you could, But the tent would be considerably more expensive.

[@ULperformance]

@@GrizzleGear You exaggerate the amount of condensation due to a tent supported at ground level and ignore the fact that grasses and snow at ground level provide sufficient air for reducing condensation. An adjustable vent which every tent should have reduces the problem further. A tent particularly at ground level provides for tent warmth in cold environments vs a tent set-up above ground with no control of cold and cold wind entry. A tent at ground level reduces the influx of critters both flying and grounded. A floorless tent reduces the excessive cost and potential damage associated with a bathtub floor and provides the owner the option to decide what type ground sheet for what season is preferred.

[@GrizzleGear]

@@ULperformance I don't exaggerate anything. Good air flow equals less condensation. That's not an argument. That's science. You are ignoring the fact that if you want to bring the fly down further in these tents, all you do is shorten your poles. You can bring your fly all the way down to the ground if you want. You've never owned a tent like this Have you? I live on Kauai. One of the wettest places on earth. Don't try to lecture me on condensation. 😂

[@GrizzleGear]

@@ULperformanceI have hiked across the entire United States twice. I've never had a damaged bathtub floor that wasn't more than a tiny hole that was easily fixed with a piece of DCF tape. You exaggerate.

[@sezwho8561]

I wouldn't buy a tent that I had to seal my self. Dont understand why its not done.

[@daleyoutdoors]

I think it’s shipping restrictions around the chemicals used in the sealant. That or laziness… There are a few manufacturers that leave them ‘unsealed’ and I don’t really understand it either. Just do it and add £10 to the price 🙄

[@PippetWhippet]

@@daleyoutdoors warehouse space goes for £3 per month per square foot in China, £8-12 in a western country. Each tent would require 225square feet for 36 hours in the warehouse- that’s the day it was manufactured to apply the sealant and 24h drying time, including minimum space to walk around the tent safely. Each tent “bay” in your sealing warehouse costs you £675 per month, and you’ll get 20 tents through there each month. Meaning in China, you’re adding £33 in warehouse space alone. I’m not going to try to estimate how much a Chinese factory worker would take home, but sadly I imagine it’s negligible. If you want to buy a tent made in the uk or USA, then we’ll be looking at £132 extra on each tent. Let’s call the wage £8 per hour and on average a worker will seam seal 2 tents an hour, now we’re up to £136 extra per tent. Your tent cost £130 and was made in China. It’s now 25% more expensive and no-one has ever heard of it because it’s competing against Six Moon. A western manufactured tent went from competing against sierra designs to competing against msr and terra nova. You’re dead in the water, and that’s with ideal figures. We haven’t accounted for anything other than the theoretical best case scenario.

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@PippetWhippet ah that explains it then, thanks 👍 So someone needs to set up a seam sealing business in the UK then 😁

[@airymind]

Lanshan should pay you for this video and learn from you to upgrade this tent.

[@henrybowden9907]

I wouldn't waste my money on a tent that is not made properly. Sealing the seams should be a factory operation and I think the tent is cheap and nasty for not having that done already BEFORE it is sold. I'll stick to my Vango - it may be a bit heavy but at least it was finished before it left the factory and it was cheaper than the part-finished rubbish from god knows where.

[@daleyoutdoors]

If it was seam sealed it would be twice the price. It’s a 20 minute job. Vango tents are good though 👍

[@zmuzzy101]

It's a process that isn't easily automated so would add significant cost to the tent. The tent is aimed at enthusiasts who won't mind the drawbacks with this model for an ultralight tent.

[@suhelavaneerten419]

The sealing had nothing to do with quality actually. Tarptents you can also seam yourself to save costs and they are great quality tents. It's because silnylon cannot be taped so needs to be painted on by hand, and the tent needs to be set up for this and dry for several hours. This makes it an expensive step and some brands like Tarptent and also 3FUL I think, provide this service for extra cost. So you can turn it around actually, you don't HAVE TO do this yourself, but you can choose to to save some money. It's an easy and quite quick job as well, I found.

[@suhelavaneerten419]

(Tarptents; I meant tents of the brand Tarptent)