I have this pack and it's great! I'm pretty skinny and it works well. I don't put a pad against my back, and I pack and roll the bag tight so the pack is fairly stiff. This way the shape of the pack creates air space on my back. The pack has lots of room for trips where you have to carry a large bear canister. It's very durable I'm more impressed than I expected and have recommended it to friends.
@campfirejesus2 ай бұрын
I found this pack a bit of a surprise also, glad you are enjoying it. I've not had to use a bear cannister, but can imagine how it might work well with this pack. Thanks for sharing.
@stirfrywok29276 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a new bag and this looks like it's an interesting concept. Cheers for the review
@NathanHassall10 ай бұрын
Awesome discussion! I was able to trim about 3 miles worth of strap from this pack and also cut the hip belt off without any comfort issues. The shock cord for the mesh pocket is worth including in my opinion as you can really squeeze the entire pack with this or jigger something together to hold poles or secure large quantities of phone numbers given by attractive woman on trail.
@campfirejesus10 ай бұрын
Haha, it definitely does have a lot excess straps
@roastntoast755011 ай бұрын
With the seat cushion in the back you're fine. I have the backpack too!
@mrducky6322 Жыл бұрын
I just straight up made a frame for mine it was really fun I’m also really short and slim so I had to modify to hip belt and shoulder straps
@campfirejesus Жыл бұрын
Sounds great mate, nice work making all those modifications!
@powexorАй бұрын
Hey, could you give any details on how you modified the hip belt and shoulder straps?
@AlexsAustralianAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks CFJ. So you’ve given up on the Gossamer. I have to admit it is a little less than robust. That looks like a viable alternative.
@campfirejesus Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, Definitely not given up on Gossamer as I do love my G4-20, but I feel I do put a new hole in it every trip 😆. I just love gear and trying new things. Its always tricky buying packs online though so if you explore this pack as an option at some point feel free to DM me on insta with any questions.
@ZakariKha Жыл бұрын
Solid review there sir!
@campfirejesus Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, Not my normal video, but have been asked questions about that pack a few times or read forums with people asking about it, so hopefully someone gains some insights from the video.
@rogerlevy577 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, especially about the carry system and mod you did. I looked at this a lot online and could see that having that fat pad in place, it puts the load further back which is not good in terms of leverage onto your shoulders if carrying 12 or 15 kg. Also those pads weigh about 400g but are not enough comfort for sleeping on their own for me. It would mean carrying that pad and an inflatable 7cm pad as well. So I like your work around. The only other con is that the waste band is two separate pieces sown on at the corners of the lower bag, and one youtuber complained about it starting to rip away from the pack after several hard tramps. Its main competitor from China is the Naturhike Rock series pack which is 1.15 kg and is 60+5 L. It has same fabric, same price, roll top internal frame and different drawbacks
@campfirejesus7 ай бұрын
Glad you got something from the video. I understand your concern about the waist belt design, but all I can say is I've had no issues in that regard with my pack. I've actually found the manufacturing quality to be quite good.
@pavelsulc26175 ай бұрын
@@campfirejesus I agree with the concerns about the hip belt pulling away from the main body of the pack. for me, after approx. 800 km of use and maximum load (load approx. 14-15 kg), this defect also manifested itself. Otherwise, at my height of 170 cm, I am very satisfied with the wearing comfort. I will try to repair the damage somehow.
@jpm98092 ай бұрын
Does it have a hole for a water bladder tube?
@campfirejesus2 ай бұрын
Yes, it has a hole on both sides
@neilarmschlong4259 ай бұрын
hello, do you think my folding pad would fit in the back panel? mine is slightly larger than the Z lite so i am worried. when folded halfway like its supposed to for the back panel it is W:26.5 x H:56.5 x D:5 (cm) thank you
@campfirejesus8 ай бұрын
I think it would fit OK, but I found that for these packs to carry well with a sleep mat as the back support, you would need quite a long torso. For me, it was more comfortable to just use a sit pad there, which does create some other issues.
@rogerlevy577 ай бұрын
Thats a standard size pad so it would fit
@siwywarszawka3 ай бұрын
What is the difference between qidian and qidian pro?
@campfirejesus3 ай бұрын
The main difference will be the fabrics the packs are made out of.
@siwywarszawka3 ай бұрын
@@campfirejesus Is the volume of main compartment ( Liters) the same?
@campfirejesus3 ай бұрын
@siwywarszawka I would say yes as the dimensions of both bags are exactly the same. Best thing to do would be go to the 3ful website and compare the specs for both bags.
@bastogne315 Жыл бұрын
Will it take a human torso ( female) thanks
@campfirejesus Жыл бұрын
It would depend on the torso length and waist size, but on average I would assume it wouldn't be the best fit
@pattyzerocool11 ай бұрын
I'm 5'7 and 165, without using the back folding pad the straps are way too big and the s shape actually digs into my chest. Modifying would remove waterproofness.
@woogeul5 ай бұрын
고써머기어 패드 말고 4번 접는 방석을 끼워도 될까요?😊
@campfirejesus5 ай бұрын
Yes if the dimensions are approximately 27cm x 50cm
@woogeul5 ай бұрын
@@campfirejesus 고마워요 친구
@airymind9 ай бұрын
I had it before but disliked it. Naturehike is better.
@campfirejesus8 ай бұрын
I've had no personal experience with nature hike packs, but I'm glad to hear it's working for you. It can be hard at times to find something that ticks enough of the right boxes.