Plane Lands On Occupied Runway

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3 Minutes of Aviation

3 Minutes of Aviation

Күн бұрын

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@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel 7 ай бұрын
I dont think ppl realise how dangerous that first clip was
@missunderstood1983
@missunderstood1983 7 ай бұрын
It's not like a need for a rejected takeoff would have led to disaster or anything
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 7 ай бұрын
not really. they didn't touch down until the other was going up
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 7 ай бұрын
@@jamescollier3 there was totally insufficient room for the second plane to execute a go-around if the first plane had to abort its take off run
@Grizzham
@Grizzham 7 ай бұрын
@@coldlakealta4043or if the 2nd plane had to go around, it would have suffered severe wake turbulence at least.
@jamesp13152
@jamesp13152 7 ай бұрын
I do!
@AndrewSmithThomas
@AndrewSmithThomas 7 ай бұрын
Correction: 5 minutes of aviation. Because once you've watched it through, you've got to go back and rewatch that first one. Repeatedly.
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 7 ай бұрын
agree - I did just that
@MrOreo390
@MrOreo390 7 ай бұрын
Smart
@papagiorgio23
@papagiorgio23 7 ай бұрын
6 minutes for me 😂
@gordonbergslien30
@gordonbergslien30 7 ай бұрын
That is the most spectacularly dangerous thing I've seen in I don't know when!!!
@0w3nn
@0w3nn 7 ай бұрын
wait until you play Airport Madness 3D
@Mike020389
@Mike020389 7 ай бұрын
Fuck me imagine if the first plane had to abort its takeoff.
@jim2lane
@jim2lane 7 ай бұрын
My point exactly. That Indigo Airbus would have been in a world of hurt in that situation
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 7 ай бұрын
they hadn't touched down until after that was impossible
@FrietjeOorlog
@FrietjeOorlog 7 ай бұрын
Imagine how many more planes you could shift a day if this wasn't so stupidly dangerous...
@Mike020389
@Mike020389 7 ай бұрын
@@jamescollier3 I'm not an expert when it comes to planes/airport safety, hell I barely know anything... but I'm still pretty sure that what happened in the first clip still should not have happened. Guess safety was a secondary concern where ever the hell that happened.
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 7 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly - a potential disaster
@lukew5602
@lukew5602 7 ай бұрын
Now that’s efficiency! Maybe do a parallel departure on the taxiway too. 😂
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 6 ай бұрын
Are you referring to the very first proof?
@casmatori
@casmatori 6 ай бұрын
Third world aviation
@rogerwesterman5060
@rogerwesterman5060 6 ай бұрын
C CD
@railyatra8879
@railyatra8879 6 ай бұрын
@@casmatori southwest 708 happened in the third world
@tzeffsmainchannel
@tzeffsmainchannel 6 ай бұрын
It's a double-stacked pitt-stop! We see it often in Formula One!
@skyvenrazgriz8226
@skyvenrazgriz8226 7 ай бұрын
"Erm tower we have to abort the takeoff roll..." Tower: "no you cant!"
@AlfaGiuliaQV
@AlfaGiuliaQV 6 ай бұрын
"I order you to take off, so that is what you will do understood?"
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 6 ай бұрын
@@AlfaGiuliaQV _Pilot removes shirt, then trousers..._ 🔞😉
@ethabn4
@ethabn4 6 ай бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756you need therapy
@DrummerJacob
@DrummerJacob 6 ай бұрын
Only someone that's in and out of therapy would jump to that over such a nothing burger of a comment. Tell us more about your therapy. Hope it's going well. ​@@ethabn4
@harrisonrobins3689
@harrisonrobins3689 6 ай бұрын
​@@dieseldragon6756are you OK? Because I need bleach now
@Vanguardcreed
@Vanguardcreed 7 ай бұрын
Mumbai airports has single runway and average 1000 flights per day… I was wondering how they did it and this clip explains everything 😅
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 6 ай бұрын
airport* There! There's still several months for the 2nd one to begin operating. FTFY Also.. There are 2 runways. But since they are not parallel, yes.. Only one at a time.
@ClimbMitBourbon
@ClimbMitBourbon 6 ай бұрын
​@maazkalim why not just type out fixed that for you instead of FTFY?
@alcedo_kf
@alcedo_kf 6 ай бұрын
​@@ClimbMitBourbon Grammar police forgot to start his sentence with a capital letter 🤭 (I'm not referring to you, by the way :))
@ananyasinghal4745
@ananyasinghal4745 6 ай бұрын
They do not do this regularly, it was a major incident that is now being reviewed by the DGCA (India’s NTSB)
@Idiana_Kami
@Idiana_Kami 6 ай бұрын
@@ananyasinghal4745 dgca is not india ntsb
@listerofsmeg884
@listerofsmeg884 7 ай бұрын
Car horns in the first one fit well 😂
@TB-um1xz
@TB-um1xz 7 ай бұрын
That's pretty much all you hear in India.
@tastethem
@tastethem 7 ай бұрын
I know it's India's background noise, but I'm imagining the first airplane beeping at the one taking off to hurry up and take off faster
@SuiGenerisAbbie
@SuiGenerisAbbie 7 ай бұрын
Where in India don't you hear car horns?
@dharmeshmistry5628
@dharmeshmistry5628 7 ай бұрын
Traffic on the runway leads to honking 😂
@listerofsmeg884
@listerofsmeg884 6 ай бұрын
@@TB-um1xz never been but i noticed the same thing in Egypt
@blinard1
@blinard1 7 ай бұрын
Wow. A non clickbait title. Proud of you man!!!
@alexalphastream2943
@alexalphastream2943 6 ай бұрын
I've got to say, the situation in the following video's is no joke either. Quality release.
@jonty1591
@jonty1591 7 ай бұрын
The DCGA in India de-rostered the ATC staff who was responsible for the near close landing at Mumbai airport. That was too close and dangerous.
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db 6 ай бұрын
Anyway, even as an "ArmChair pilot," I know the landing plane had to have turbulence from the takeoff craft shed of it.
@valerierodger
@valerierodger 3 ай бұрын
I'm also concerned with the pilot who would continue with a landing seeing that there was another plane on the runway.
@sportonjob6110
@sportonjob6110 2 ай бұрын
​@@valerierodger attempting a go around at that point is even more dangerous due to the wake turbulence created by the plane in front taking off.
@princekamoro3869
@princekamoro3869 2 ай бұрын
@@sportonjob6110 The go-around would fly above any wake turbulence created by the departure, and the departure would be in front of any wake turbulence created by the arrival, and the planes would receive diverging headings before the arrival could overtake the departure. The real danger is insufficient reaction time to go around if the departure were to reject takeoff.
@MrDumile
@MrDumile 29 күн бұрын
​@@AlbertBenajam-ww1db maybe not. One plane is actually on the ground and the one behind is not yet on the ground (immediately behind it). By the time it's on the ground also ...yes there will be some disturbance. Imagine it had to go around...😢😮
@JaidenJimenez86
@JaidenJimenez86 7 ай бұрын
lol reminds me of my old flying school. 'If you don't touch the tarmac until they're off, it's not illegal'...cue 20 seconds of floating 😂
@Brianamboko
@Brianamboko 7 ай бұрын
what if you float past the touchdown zone and a few seconds later they takeoff?
@harryspeakup8452
@harryspeakup8452 7 ай бұрын
@@Brianamboko As long as you don't have two aircraft simultaneously on the runway, it's legal. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea
@user-th6ty2ln6x
@user-th6ty2ln6x 7 ай бұрын
@@Brianamboko then you chase the mofo and pull a johncena on him
@reyray7184
@reyray7184 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's only crazy when it doesn't work. 😂
@shikharkeshari009
@shikharkeshari009 7 ай бұрын
As a Mumbai plane spotter, I couldn’t believe what I saw in the first clip! Huge props to the cameraman!
@paulodiaz5774
@paulodiaz5774 7 ай бұрын
That HK Airline trying some Tokyo Drifting.
@yannx4968
@yannx4968 6 ай бұрын
what a film ^^
@BrianAchterberg928
@BrianAchterberg928 7 ай бұрын
I’m surprised jet blast and/or wake turbulence didn’t affect the aircraft landing in the first clip. I bet the pilot landing the aircraft had a “code brown” in his shorts while landing.
@patrikmagnusson4213
@patrikmagnusson4213 7 ай бұрын
Don´t think jet blast is a problem for such a big plane at such big distance. Power drops off fast with range. And for wake turbulence to be created the AC needs to be airborn (made by lift induced drag) and by that point the other AC is already on the ground. If it was a light crosswind maybe they felt it a bit after landing when the vortices travel down.
@BrianAchterberg928
@BrianAchterberg928 7 ай бұрын
@@patrikmagnusson4213 What about the possible “code brown” problem? 😆 Just kidding
@thejeffinvade
@thejeffinvade 7 ай бұрын
That is just a highly efficient way of using the runway.
@0w3nn
@0w3nn 7 ай бұрын
wait until you play Airport Madness 3D
@robbroere1384
@robbroere1384 7 ай бұрын
Jet blast is not that impacting between mid size planes and wake turbulence only starts forming while the plane is airborne. At that time the Indigo was on the ground already. Still very dangerous in case the approach had to be aborted they would have been extremely close.
@D.K.-nh1uv
@D.K.-nh1uv 7 ай бұрын
That first clip is crazy.
@Akumasama
@Akumasama 6 ай бұрын
First clip: "Tower, we have to cancel takeoff." "Okay, exit the runway on Charlie within the next 4 seconds."
@rharbarenko
@rharbarenko 7 ай бұрын
First Clip "So when you are ready I have a number for you to call..."
@davidf6326
@davidf6326 7 ай бұрын
"So when you are ready I have a number for you to call..." - It doesn't look to be pilot error and the reports say an ATC Officer has been suspended from duty..
@agate_jcg
@agate_jcg 7 ай бұрын
@@davidf6326 Choosing to land on a runway that already has a plane on it is pilot error, no matter what ATC is telling you to do.
@davidf6326
@davidf6326 7 ай бұрын
@@agate_jcg I bow to your better knowledge if you know exactly how the 'chain of command' works, but one or other must have priority and I suspect it's ATC. Almost certainly it was an ATC error that created the situation and the pilot wasn't left with many options.
@Mordelm
@Mordelm 7 ай бұрын
@@davidf6326 The pilot is ultimately responsible for the safety of their passengers, full stop. They should have cancelled the landing long before they got that close. Of course ATC are also at fault for clearing them to land.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 7 ай бұрын
@@agate_jcgbut there was no plane on the runway. 🙄
@grldszn
@grldszn 7 ай бұрын
The correction on the B787 is crazyy💀
@XXSkunkWorksXX
@XXSkunkWorksXX 6 ай бұрын
It's amazing to see the flight computers banging in those adjustments so quick. I remember when the Ferrari 355 was released in 1994, it was the first semi-automatic ferrari gearbox that could change more quickly & effectively than a human. Nowadays all high performance cars come with autoboxes, imagine trying to put down 700 horsepower in an Audi RS6 even with Quattro and T/C - the autobox handles it much better than humans. Same with the automation on the autopilots on a modern airliner, it can pump up and down the flappy bits many times more effectively than a human being. Amazing :)
@cris_261
@cris_261 7 ай бұрын
Re: the first clip, has Aerosucre tried this?
@mathiasfischbach4843
@mathiasfischbach4843 7 ай бұрын
For gods sake, don't give them ideas.
@Aden-y7g
@Aden-y7g 7 ай бұрын
Yeah pls don’t give aerosucre any ideas
@PetesGuide
@PetesGuide 6 ай бұрын
No, because all the other pilots know better than to be anywhere but the gate when Aerosucre is on the runway.
@SumitBisht0
@SumitBisht0 6 ай бұрын
Indigo must have hired the Areosucre crew.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 6 ай бұрын
They _wanted_ to...But British scAirways already had a patent on it. 🛬🇬🇧😉
@andyguyuk1
@andyguyuk1 6 ай бұрын
I love in the first one that you can hear horn beeping, like it's coming from the plane, GET OUT OF THE WAY YOU MANIAC
@Aryan-tm1sm
@Aryan-tm1sm 5 күн бұрын
Hahaha Now i know why i was laughing that's what i was imagining
@stanpatterson5033
@stanpatterson5033 10 күн бұрын
The title of this video is *technically* inaccurate. The Air India was off the tarmac before Indigo touched down. I'm fully versed in runway incursion and its consequences, but the plane departing *was* off the ground before the plane arriving put its wheels down. So, for about 1 or 2 seconds, the runway was technically not occupied. I know, I know.... the runway belongs to the departing plane until he has overflown the opposing threshold.
@MrTuhascvbouwq
@MrTuhascvbouwq 7 ай бұрын
The air mexico pilot called it perfectly. It is always amazing to see people with good reflexes and quick thinking.
@setpimus
@setpimus 5 ай бұрын
exactly 3 minutes, good clips, no stupid music I'm very impressed
@ioninromania
@ioninromania 7 ай бұрын
that first one...god damn. the tower control messed up that one. and the 2nd one...man that pilot got mad skills handling that plane with those crosswinds
@Prttham
@Prttham 6 ай бұрын
Bruh that's a320 , they're very tiny planes I don't think it's very difficult to handle them
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 6 ай бұрын
The IndiGo crew could also have declared a missed approach on its own.
@SFAvgeek
@SFAvgeek 5 ай бұрын
@@PrtthamIf the first plane aborted its takeoff then it would have been an easy collision.
@aluisious
@aluisious 5 ай бұрын
@@Prttham bruh, you have a brick in your skull
@chandrakantgaikwad639
@chandrakantgaikwad639 6 ай бұрын
The demanding role of air traffic controllers. • Mumbai airport is one of the busiest airport with high traffic density. • On a single runway RW27 at the airport, there are around 46 arrivals and departures per hour. • Air Traffic Controllers (ATCs) are allowed to clear up to two arrivals and two departures within three minutes, subject to acceptable limits of safety. • Also, the separation minima between two aircraft can be reduced if the visibility is good. • In this particular case that happened on Saturday at the Mumbai airport, the visibility was good and there was no air prox situation with respect to the landing IndiGo flight and the taking off Air India flight. This may be a "wow" moment for outlookers but those who perform this safety critical task daily comes under part of their duty for which they are rigorously trained. • The ATC has the discretion to allow arrival and departure within a few minutes on the same runway, especially in high density airports. • ATCs are under significant pressure when there is high density traffic at airports. • The DGCA probe will be looking at whether all norms were followed by the ATC as well as the pilots concerned. Had there been a safety risk for landing, the pilot himself would have initiated a Go-Around. Media trials put extra stress on working controllers, as the nature of job itself comes with risk at every clearance which is done under acceptable limits of safety. We hope with this atleast some more awareness will come in people at large about why ATC is called one of the most stressful job in the world.
@singularity8943
@singularity8943 7 ай бұрын
Ok so I have a story for you guys... today I was flying student solo at a non towered airport, I just turned on final approach in a 172, someone was on the active, but close to getting off, then, out of nowhere, someone in a piper Seminole took the runway to take off. I think he said he was taking off but im not entirely sure. I announced a go around, held my altitude and 60kts. The Seminole and the 172 on the ground had maybe 20 feet of vertical separation between them and it looked like the Seminole had to take off at a really slow speed to clear the 172. They got yelled at multiple times on the runway by the 172 on the ground, rightfully so, but they never acknowledged it on the radio. Some people just don't deserve their wings
@just-me-bruh-69420
@just-me-bruh-69420 6 ай бұрын
So there were like 3 planes in 1 km area ?
@aluisious
@aluisious 5 ай бұрын
You need to learn to write more clearly.
@oliverfoden
@oliverfoden Ай бұрын
That first clip was insane. People who don’t watch or aren’t into aviation as much wouldn’t realise but that could have been catastrophic definitely wouldn’t have happend anywhere else in the world!
@Fantic156
@Fantic156 7 ай бұрын
First landing pilot needs a summons for tailgating .... 😜
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 7 ай бұрын
at least they were honking to let the guy in front know
@randywl8925
@randywl8925 Ай бұрын
That first one, the simultaneous landing and takeoff is airport efficiency at it's finest level. Bravo, bravo. 👍👍👍
@TheMrMused
@TheMrMused 7 ай бұрын
Pucker factor on that first one; 14/10 Holy crap. What was that controller on?!?!?
@fromtheflightdeck252
@fromtheflightdeck252 6 ай бұрын
Biriani
@lightotw
@lightotw 7 ай бұрын
If the comments are taken literally, it seems people are unaware that ATC is responsible for keeping separation between aircraft. The pilot also has the option to abort the landing. The fact that there was no accident doesn't make it okay. Aircraft movements are far more structured and regulated than driving a car or crossing the street. Given visibility wasn't an issue, this pilot landing was taking an unnecessary risk.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 7 ай бұрын
Where do you get this? Minimum requirements for this situation is 6000 feet and the first aircraft to have lifted off. The airplane was airborne. So that was fine. The 6000 feet is hard to judge from the camera angle. It was likely fine.
@kevinfairclough4619
@kevinfairclough4619 6 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183it’s 6000 feet at threshold of runway. You get get a fair idea of separation from the time… = way less than 6000. More importantly, there’s a DA and the approaching aircraft would be able to see clearly that there would be a high likelihood that this separation would not be met, regardless of whether they had clearance, a go-around at DA before threshold was the only safe option.
@kevinfairclough4619
@kevinfairclough4619 6 ай бұрын
3 seconds separation at 130 (approximately) knots is no more than 1000 ft. If I’m really conservative I’ll give then 1500 feet separation. Ignorance alone can defend that as as legitimately safe commercial aviation.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 6 ай бұрын
@@kevinfairclough4619 upon further study, I agree with you.
@aluisious
@aluisious 5 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I love how people like you are clamoring to show how bad your judgement is.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 7 ай бұрын
747 was posing for cameras, what a great screenshot!
@hoedenbesteller
@hoedenbesteller 4 күн бұрын
That piece of ancient history flies by here everyday, hope it doesn’t fall on our heads like El Al did some 30 years ago
@PaulCashman
@PaulCashman 7 ай бұрын
That clip from Mumbai was absolutely terrifying.
@David-ud9ju
@David-ud9ju Ай бұрын
Not really. They had loads of separation. Even an aborted take off or go around would have been manageable, if a little hairy.
@PaulCashman
@PaulCashman Ай бұрын
@@David-ud9ju perhaps, but the incident is/was under investigation by India's DGCA (FAA equivalent) and the pilots and controllers were de-rostered pending the investigation's outcome.
@IBM29
@IBM29 7 ай бұрын
Seeing "747" and "floats" in the same sentence boggles the mind...
@itstop10bro
@itstop10bro 4 ай бұрын
Do you what airport that was
@scottw5315
@scottw5315 3 ай бұрын
If you don't control your speed properly things go wrong....pretty amateurish IMO.
@jaredkennedy6576
@jaredkennedy6576 7 ай бұрын
There was a pretty big thread on r/aviation about that first one, and it gets a bit heated. That incoming plane should have waved off well before that, but both would have needed to make some nonstandard departure maneuvers, like both going to opposite sides to get some separation.
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 6 ай бұрын
The arriving 6E plane could have gone around. The only one not at fault is the AI crew.
@doctorlovera
@doctorlovera 7 ай бұрын
Passengers in the front plane: Wow. Pilot is in a hurry today Passangers in the rear plane: Wow. This guy used his heavy foot on the brakes Both pilots : 😱😨😰
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 6 ай бұрын
Me (Seasoned railway user): _„ _*_Why_*_ is everybody saying that the planes were too close?...“_ 🙃
@FeroFedmanz
@FeroFedmanz 5 ай бұрын
your energy is the perfect pick-me-up on any day! ☕
@19s06
@19s06 7 ай бұрын
That I can say, "That's too close."
@cmikesmith664
@cmikesmith664 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Steve_Kassiotis
@Steve_Kassiotis 6 ай бұрын
2:37 how bad do you have to be flying for the autopilot to start calling you names?
@easydrive3662
@easydrive3662 6 ай бұрын
Interesting first clip, fairly dangerous situation but i noticed the landing aircraft did not actually touchdown until the other aircraft had departed and left the runway.
@roddyspicer
@roddyspicer 3 күн бұрын
#3 the A321: The Airbus A321's Angle of Attack (AOA) warning system is designed to alert pilots if the aircraft approaches a potentially dangerous angle of attack, particularly during critical phases of flight such as landing and touchdown. This system utilizes sensors to monitor the angle of attack and can activate visual and audible warnings in the cockpit if the aircraft is at risk of stalling or experiencing a tailstrike. The alerts help pilots take corrective action to prevent damage to the aircraft, ensuring a safer landing.
@barrymayson2492
@barrymayson2492 5 ай бұрын
The plane i was in had the close call on landing on occupied runway. A bit scary as the pilot hit full power just as we came over the beginning of the runway. Landed safely about 15 minutes later. 3:00
@PaliAha808
@PaliAha808 6 ай бұрын
_This was a super interesting bunch of video clips!_
@EvanBear
@EvanBear 7 ай бұрын
It's kind of poetic seeing one bird (the plane) struggling to land and another (the crow) taking off without so much as a thought about it.
@pepeleyva
@pepeleyva 6 ай бұрын
The crow took off on the right wind direction, while the plane must stick to runway
@turbofanlover
@turbofanlover 7 ай бұрын
Looks like I won't be travelling to Mumbai any time soon...lol.
@SumitBisht0
@SumitBisht0 6 ай бұрын
do travel, the single runway operation is a madness you need to witness
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 6 ай бұрын
If this might push fares to Mumbai down to the point I can afford them, I might well! 🇬🇧🛫☁🛬🇮🇳👍 What's the chance of getting an arrival « _En traffique_ » like the one we see here, do you think? 😨🎢😋
@rockshubham7556
@rockshubham7556 6 ай бұрын
0:28 India is not for beginners...!
@TexJester-no8th
@TexJester-no8th 7 ай бұрын
The rudder control inputs on that HK was astonishing!! That wind was giving that pilot a rough time....
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer 7 ай бұрын
Pilot induced oscillation, methinks...
@TheImperialChannel
@TheImperialChannel 7 ай бұрын
*HK Airlines rudder inputs were exceptionally high! Texan pilots?*
@firthm2
@firthm2 5 ай бұрын
Boeing 747: confidently landing on the runway. Also Boeing 747: where's the runway?
@kevinphallus
@kevinphallus 6 ай бұрын
The guy in the last clip calling out the altitudes then berating the pilot for messing up the landing was wild.
@hughjanus7354
@hughjanus7354 6 ай бұрын
I see wot u did dere.
@aluisious
@aluisious 5 ай бұрын
don't quit your day job
@bella380
@bella380 7 ай бұрын
I love these videos, and well notated so you know exactly what to look for. Thank You!
@unknown_astro8433
@unknown_astro8433 7 ай бұрын
Bro thought this was infinite flight casual servers
@DiogoF.
@DiogoF. 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for such an wonderful channel and content. Cheers from Portugal.
@SrijitSen1
@SrijitSen1 7 ай бұрын
First clip: I'm damn sure whoever from the ATC went ahead with that landing must have thought the airport as a real life extension of Airport Madness.
@xcel5203
@xcel5203 7 ай бұрын
He's been suspended.
@AnonMedic
@AnonMedic 7 ай бұрын
He's probably a Microsoft flight simulator ATC on the weekends
@힐만94
@힐만94 7 ай бұрын
i play ATC4, and that action would trigger risk index warning and substract your final score 😅
@neilwoller
@neilwoller 7 ай бұрын
@2:36, what is it saying? It's after the countdown...40, 30, 20, re-????
@kevinfairclough4619
@kevinfairclough4619 6 ай бұрын
Aircraft has “autothrust”, a computer controlled system to maintain airspeed by constantly altering engine speed depending on pitch and wind conditions to maintain a desired air speed. The pilots keep the thrust lever in one position (nearly all the way forward) on approach and the autothrust system does the rest. The countdown, as I’m sure you’re aware is the radio altimeter. However, if the pilots don’t pull back the thrust lever before landing gear touches runway (retard it) the aircraft will assume the pilots want to give full thrust to abort the landing (go-around). So the cue to “retard” just before touchdown is for that reason.
@Caleb-b3o
@Caleb-b3o 3 ай бұрын
I’m simple terms it’s saying “retard” “retard” which is an airbus reminder to turn off the engines before landing.
@rdspam
@rdspam 7 ай бұрын
That 747 looked like it was coming in way too fast. Like “no flaps” speed, though they were out. A planned touch and go?
@SgfGustafsson
@SgfGustafsson 7 ай бұрын
They weren't close to "no flaps speed" as this would overspeed the flaps that were fully deployed
@DavidWarrior360
@DavidWarrior360 23 күн бұрын
I imagined the horns to be the Indigo A320 😂
@VictheSecret
@VictheSecret 7 ай бұрын
First clip was an airprox and both the controllers and flight crews need 'education' for letting it happen. The latter should have gone around.
@PiikachUwU_OSRS
@PiikachUwU_OSRS 6 ай бұрын
That first one is an unacceptable breakdown of separation, pure and simple.
@harrya.lewissamara336
@harrya.lewissamara336 18 күн бұрын
And pilot should've gone around at 100 feet, how could it known that the plane in front wouldn't have to abort take off?
@Bokoyo
@Bokoyo 6 ай бұрын
Pilot was former Tuktuk (Rickshaw) Driver!
@TheIseethings
@TheIseethings 6 ай бұрын
u mean atc
@michaelbrower3068
@michaelbrower3068 6 ай бұрын
I suspect the foreshortening of the telephoto lens makes the separation of the aircraft seem much closer than it was. The landing plane touches down just as the other one is lifting off. The touch down happens about 10 seconds after crossing the runway threshold, and the takeoff probably happens about 6500-7000 feet down the runway from the same point. My guess is the minimum separation between them was around 4000-4500 feet. If this were the US, FAA rules would require that the landing aircraft should not cross the runway threshold before the departing aircraft has lifted off and (where distance can be read by markers) the distance between them should be at least 6000 feet. So basically the landing happened about 10 seconds early compared to what the FAA allows and ate up about 1/3 the minimum required time and distance between the aircraft. That's bad but, well, the FAA rules are pretty scary, too. I think European rules have a wider margin of safety, but I'm not sure.
@resatk3488
@resatk3488 7 ай бұрын
Tuk tuk traffic on Runway
@just-me-bruh-69420
@just-me-bruh-69420 6 ай бұрын
Flying tuktuk a3soorupee
@gcorriveau6864
@gcorriveau6864 6 ай бұрын
Now - that's the kind of runway utilization we can expect to see more of in the future as airports get busier! ;-)
@ogcryptowealth
@ogcryptowealth 6 ай бұрын
India is crazy they’re bumper to bumper on the roads and on the runways! 😂😂
@Norwegian733
@Norwegian733 6 ай бұрын
The first video - Very effective. They probably use adaptive cruise control "close in modus"
@PetesGuide
@PetesGuide 7 ай бұрын
First clip: landing on the dots at Oshkosh?
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 6 ай бұрын
It was at Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Airport (Mumbai, Maharashtra State, India).
@PetesGuide
@PetesGuide 6 ай бұрын
@@AEMoreira81 Thank you for that! It answered a question I wanted the answer to, but didn’t ask. Also, my comment was a bit of a joke: At the EAA AirVenture airshow each year, the main runway is painted with colored dots and general aviation arrivals are assigned to different color dots. This looked far more dangerous, yet similar, so I thought I’d get a couple of likes from pilots who have flown into that airshow. But only two likes so far, so there must not be that many Oshkosh alumns here.
@StMarksEpiscopalChurch
@StMarksEpiscopalChurch 9 күн бұрын
What were the weather conditions on the second clip? It looks like there was a decent crosswind component.
@amann5975
@amann5975 6 ай бұрын
First clip=happened on 8 June 2024 and supposedly the Indian authorities have initiated an enquiry
@beautifulflorida
@beautifulflorida 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing! Great video!
@neils5539
@neils5539 7 ай бұрын
Japan Air passengers on the left side watching that landing, thinking this takeoff will be interesting!
@Aladdin-gz9qy
@Aladdin-gz9qy 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ilovetotri23
@ilovetotri23 7 ай бұрын
Best video yet!
@MaviationYT
@MaviationYT 7 ай бұрын
"How many times did you watch the 1st clip?" "Yes!"
@anshudipkarn
@anshudipkarn Ай бұрын
AFAIK, a probe was ordered for the first clip. Happened in Mumbai. But I cannot stop appreciating the fact that the timing of perfect - the AI aircraft took off the moment the Indigo aircraft landed
@cherylo9207
@cherylo9207 7 ай бұрын
Scary stuff right there!
@Josegimu
@Josegimu 7 ай бұрын
Watching from Kenya.🇰🇪🇰🇪
@FryChicken
@FryChicken 7 ай бұрын
Now THAT's efficient use of a runway! Awesome piloting!
@k4chnaa
@k4chnaa 7 ай бұрын
Awesome amount of stupidity from already de-rostered ATC officer who give Indigo clearance to land.
@ChiscoTube
@ChiscoTube 7 ай бұрын
There’s no efficiency there,that’s damn right dangerous. Safety margins in Aviation are there for a reason !
@Veteah
@Veteah 2 күн бұрын
On that last clip it’s impressive how fast N1 goes from thrust idle to TOGA power
@LNC4P
@LNC4P 7 ай бұрын
Landing on an occupied runway is a big no no. Both atc and pilots are to blame for that poor decision on the first clip.
@n666eo
@n666eo 6 ай бұрын
The runway wasn't occupied on touch down. It's legal.
@kevinfairclough4619
@kevinfairclough4619 6 ай бұрын
@@n666eobut…what about Deciscion Altitude? What was the pilot thinking not going around during this point in final? DA is where pilots must decide whether to continue or execute a missed approach based on visual cues or instrument indications (an aircraft on the runway is such a cue). This occurs before runway threshold. Crossing the threshold with another aircraft still on the runway is not “legal” as you put it. Nothing to do with when the aircraft touches down. It’s essential procedure. It’s a definite no for landing way before they cross the threshold. Also consider separation. For cat 3 aircraft it’s 6000 ft. This separation is way shorter. No room to do anything safe if need to execute a TO abort or missed approach go-around. Yes, radio comms but where’s the redundancy in that?
@n666eo
@n666eo 6 ай бұрын
@@kevinfairclough4619 DA is not for aircraft on the runway unless it's not predicted. Pretty sure the aircraft on final knew about the plane taking off from ATC. You're right about the 6000ft separation, but it's not CAT 3.
@just_another_brick_in_the_wall
@just_another_brick_in_the_wall 6 ай бұрын
@@n666eo , imagine if landing acft had to go around for some reason... imo Indigo capt was irresponsible.
@n666eo
@n666eo 6 ай бұрын
@@just_another_brick_in_the_wall We have seen far worst go around in the USA, 3 or 4 times in 2 or 3 years...
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 7 ай бұрын
Great video!
@Eurofighter-15
@Eurofighter-15 2 ай бұрын
It's actually 2:59
@FaizAhmad-ek6bs
@FaizAhmad-ek6bs 7 ай бұрын
Normal air traffic in India😂
@aayushg8
@aayushg8 3 ай бұрын
Second one is actually great landing skills to keep plane under control. You can hear wind in the recording too
@tonyorobsky
@tonyorobsky 7 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t 1 min pass between 2 aircrafts using the runway?
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 7 ай бұрын
No
@rinleez
@rinleez 6 ай бұрын
Sadly the separation is getting smaller and smaller, as airports are overloaded with more and more flights but there's no magic number. It's all very risky and on the limit at busy airports.
@MarkSmith-js2pu
@MarkSmith-js2pu 7 ай бұрын
Pilot induced oscillation is usually not yaw, what’s the crosswind component there?
@proventure307
@proventure307 7 ай бұрын
0:23min you can clearly see in the frames that the first airplane was airborne when the second landed - so technically the runway was not occupied atm. 🤣
@Alphet_013
@Alphet_013 6 ай бұрын
Fair enough
@musfiqniazrahman
@musfiqniazrahman 4 ай бұрын
I think the first clip is some clever editing of one landing and one take-off to appear both at the same time.
@SkinnyCow.
@SkinnyCow. 7 ай бұрын
That Neo aint going around for shit
@l.merbecks8144
@l.merbecks8144 7 ай бұрын
Tbh I think a go around would not have been the best option here either… even in the air the separation would have been extremely small
@SkinnyCow.
@SkinnyCow. 7 ай бұрын
@@l.merbecks8144 at the end it was too late, but long before the pilots had ample opportunity to execute a go around
@just-me-bruh-69420
@just-me-bruh-69420 6 ай бұрын
@@l.merbecks8144exactly steep turn and waste of fuel
@r0ns0n0l
@r0ns0n0l 8 күн бұрын
Bruh, the 2nd one went FULL RUDDER, Holy Crap :D thats for sure something that might make u loose control ^^
@Musharaf001
@Musharaf001 7 ай бұрын
India 🇮🇳 is not for beginners 😢😂
@HELSINKIspotting
@HELSINKIspotting 4 ай бұрын
Nice 👌
@samcorbett8783
@samcorbett8783 6 ай бұрын
2:35 Oh boy, I sure do love an internal cockpit view. It sure is nice being able to watch aviation clips after getting bullied at school all day. I sure do hope this video doesn't remind me of that in some way
@markomarten
@markomarten 3 ай бұрын
I think the difference in safety levels in some regions is very noticeable, especially with landings.
@souvik24x7
@souvik24x7 Ай бұрын
in india everything runs like this. 😅 we have so many people, vehicles, animals & don't know what else in a less place. 😅
@makmixmix
@makmixmix 7 ай бұрын
0:17 Is that an airbus honking?
@sunilmaharaj1775
@sunilmaharaj1775 6 ай бұрын
Excellent ATC
@sunilmaharaj1775
@sunilmaharaj1775 6 ай бұрын
But I believe the matter is being investigated" too close for comfort"
@Travelwith_Me700
@Travelwith_Me700 6 ай бұрын
The first clip happened in Mumbai's Airport. Other flights are doing the freakin' same. I have been watching this land and takeoff on live from another youtuber who was recording The planes arriving and leaving..
@Nicosshalagalanis
@Nicosshalagalanis 6 ай бұрын
Damn man that blue and white four engine aircraft had a lovely sound and looks like e beast ❤
@maldohh7451
@maldohh7451 6 ай бұрын
video of the year!
@ThoreNeumann-l1m
@ThoreNeumann-l1m 4 ай бұрын
If the other aircraft is departing and has crossed the runway departure threshold, separation is guaranteed and another aircraft may land. Again, however, exceptions apply: 1) 3,000 Feet of Separation: Category I aircraft landing behind Category I or II. 2) 4,500 Feet of Separation: Category II aircraft landing behind Category I or II 3) 6,000 Feet of Separation: When either is a category III aircraft.
@yoyojoe9240
@yoyojoe9240 18 күн бұрын
O:26......Imagine......ABORT..TAKE OFF....ABORT TAKE OFF....."What a mess"...!!!!
@ObiWanCannabi
@ObiWanCannabi 7 ай бұрын
if i was that first pilot i think id have given the tower a number to call after bringing me in that close to another plane on the runway, that wake must have been quite a fight
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