Blockstream Jade Bitcoin Hardware Wallet: Unboxing, Setup and Review

[@nickg3879]

Im going to get one of these. I've had it with Ledger and dont like Trezor.

[@CryptoGuide]

Great, you can use my affiliate link if you want to help me out in the process and the coupon code "cryptoguide" for 10% off

[@michaeljr348]

It’s even cheaper

[@samueladams584]

cryptoguide , thinking of ordering one of these soon

[@CryptoGuide]

Great, it's a solid product

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

What about ColdCard?

[@wannaBtraceur]

This is, hands down, the best video on Jade I’ve seen.

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks :)

[@asteriskesque]

It really is. This channel is filled with so much great information. His video about passphrases is one I think everybody in crypto should watch. Top notch stuff.

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks, glad it helped :)

[@asteriskesque]

Holy moly. At first, the option to create your own seed recovery QR code seems very cumbersome, but once you see it in action, it's brilliant! 13:22 What a great feature.

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea you don't need to use seedQR if you don't want to, but it does speed things up if you want to run statelessly

[@asteriskesque]

@@CryptoGuide And it's phenomenal for an extra form of backup. I'm so impressed with the way you did this video. It's REALLY helpful. Is it possible to do multisig with a single Jade, running in stateless mode, using 2 SeedQRs to sign a transaction?

[@bitcoin__help]

@@asteriskesque Yes you can! Scanning a SeedQR while in a session will switch to the new seed automatically (after confirmation)

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@JonnyWinny]

@@CryptoGuidewhat if battery inside jade dies ?

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

Really wish they made the screen bigger. Verifying information on the screen is critical. I’d gladly pay $75 extra for a screen 4x the size.

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea it's certainly a drawback

[@SkyGizmmo]

Very concise and thorough job covering alot of features. Thank you

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks :)

[@andywang9005]

Hey great video sir. So with jade, there are 2 ways of storing your recovery phrase - either as 12 words or by SeedQR? And the way you store it doesn't affect your ability to use QR mode correct?

[@CryptoGuide]

That's right, you can also store it in both if you really want.

[@emilijan2257]

Thanks this was very helpful, just one thing confused me, you can do a firmware update interacting via mobile app, don't necessarily needs a desktop version of blockstream green ?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, firmware updates can be done using either the mobile app or the desktop app.

[@matt-dp1kf]

I just bought a Jade. I am going to transfer my BTC from a Ledger wallet to the Jade after the nonsense Ledger has been pulling lately. Is it just me or does the Jade setup seem pretty complicated? Maybe I’m just spoiled by how simple the Ledger process was. Say what you want about some of the recent actions of Ledger as a company but their products are user-friendly in my opinion.

[@CryptoGuide]

Firstly, Ledger is the best option is the market as far as user friendlyness goes, so yea it does spoil you a bit... That said, Jade is quite straightforward, the thing that complicated stuff in this video was that I didn't finish the initial setup before updating the firmware and that I also created a seed QR. (If you just use the Green wallet then it's much simpler)

[@mauriciobolboa6829]

I'm Is the same boat , i got the jade but i haven't set it up. I'm still using my Ledger s AND i believe I'll be fine , do you ?

[@CryptoGuide]

Unfortunately it's impossible to say, though running open source, preferably third party wallet software is a pretty good compromise.

[@C0LiDe]

Is the firmware already installed? How can you be sure it wasn't compressed? For example, Trezor comes without firmware.

[@CryptoGuide]

Firstly, Trezor actually does come with firmware pre-installed. (You can watch my DIY video for Trezor One to understand which part this is) Secondly, the model for secure boot on ESP32 is basically that once enabled, it will only run firmware signed with a specific key. So basically if you download and validate an official blockstream firmware and flash it using the Python scripts (Or just the official app) then if the device accepts the firmware, you can be sure that it was initialized with Blockstream's signing key.

[@TinoTatum]

Nice video. I have a ledger and looking to switch. This seems like the best choice. Tired of the ads ledger has and only care for BTC. If I make the switch how would you go about moving funds from ledger to jade? Just send the entire balance as a single UTXO? Or could I buy a jade and enter my 24 word pass phrase from my ledger in the jade. Is that possible? Another thing I like with ledger app is I am able to easily buy on cash app and send to my cold wallet without the device connected. Am I able to still do that with Jade? Thanks!

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks. In terms of your questions. You can simply use your 24 word seed from the Ledger with the Jade and it will "just work". :) Regardless of the Bitcoin wallet, you don't need any hardware or software to be online to receive a transaction. (Though there are security trade offs if you don't verify the address on the hardware device.)

[@alexgaponenko2002]

Can you operate (send and receive btc) by only using the camera (scanning) without interaction with any software?

[@CryptoGuide]

You will need to use some wallet software to be able to send funds, as you need to create the transaction itself. (Even if you are signing via QR codes or something)

[@elre5929]

Do you need to use the Jade on hteir own software or it can be skipped and used only on other plateform, like Sparrow or Nunchuck using all of the features ?

[@CryptoGuide]

You can completely avoid their platforms, so it will "just work" with sparrow and you can also avoid using their Blind PINServer by either using your own or running it statelessly.

[@antoniocouto7092]

Is possible to remove the battery and use a mobile phone charger for power on the Jade walllet, I think is no good ideia to long hold. Thanks for the vídeo.

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea it's just got standard hex screws, so you can just remove the battery if you like

[@Drummen4tw]

Do you need Blockstream Green to setup/update the device?

[@CryptoGuide]

No, you can set it up and use it with any compatible Bitcoin wallet and push and updates via the python scripts in the Jade GitHub repository

[@Zimo0o]

@@CryptoGuide Is there a video on how to do this with Nunchuk?

[@CryptoGuide]

Written documentation here help.blockstream.com/hc/en-us/articles/11666849301017-How-do-I-use-Jade-QR-Scan-with-Nunchuk-

[@javiergarciaigualada9971]

In your opinion, which one would you buy Keystone (Bitcoin Only) or Blockstream Jade? I mean considering the price right now since the Keystone right now has a discount and would stay at $89.. Without the discount, perhaps I would be more inclined towards the Jade, but with the discount, I am undecided, I know that both are very good, but which one would you tip the scales for?

[@CryptoGuide]

The main drawback to the Jade is that it does have a very small screen (This is part of the low price for Jade, which is still second to none as far as performance for the price), whereas devices like the Keystone do have a much nicer user experience and larger screen which makes using it in QR mode less fiddly. The Bitcoin Only firmware on the Keystone is very powerful and also supports things like SLIP39 for redundancy/security in the seed phrase, using dice for the entropy, etc. On the Jade side, Green wallet (The vendor supplied option for Jade) is also both powerful and easy to use, especially with a phone over Bluetooth. Their multi-sig solution in Green is also very accessible.

[@javiergarciaigualada9971]

@@CryptoGuide Thank you very much for the answer. You're a machine !

[@CryptoGuide]

No worries, glad it helped :)

[@viperviperpiro]

Keystone is based in China or HK.....

[@CryptoGuide]

That's correct

[@EsseQuamVideri727]

Question: Minute 06:50 The dual pin and server pin feature. Are you dependent on the server and block stream to access your wallet or logging in?

[@CryptoGuide]

Your pin needs a pinserver to unlock using the pin, this can either be one run by blocksteam or one you run yourself. You can also log in directly with a mnemonic or SeedQR if you don't want to use a PIN or if your pin server is down.

[@EsseQuamVideri727]

@@CryptoGuide Thanks for a solid and fast reply. So basically, if you use a PIN for the device, it needs a pin server. If that server for whatever reason would be down, you can still always access the JADE and wallet, by worst case entering your mnemonic or SeedQR. Got it! Do you personally have a preference between Coldcard Mk4 vs Jade? Safety? User interface?

[@CryptoGuide]

Both are great, but Coldcard is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't currently support QR codes, so you need to be happy juggling MicroSD cards. Coldcard is certainly less user friendly, if you just use Jade+Green it's very simple and secure. On the Jade side, some folk don't link the Bluetooth functionality, the small screen can be a struggle for some.

[@EsseQuamVideri727]

@@CryptoGuide Jade + Green can also be used in a 100% airgapped mode, correct? I currently have a Ledger and a Trezor model T. Just want to have the safest, HODL, bullet proof and secure option, for a portion of the BTC. Don't like the development currently by Ledger, trust is broken... So looking for an option, I am sure both are just fine! Thanks for your replies... Much appreciated and great content...

[@CryptoGuide]

Jade can be used completely airgapped and is also verifiability open source. (For both retail and DIY devices)

[@eprohoda]

Good night-Omg. amazing recording~Crypto. 🙂

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks

[@TheATOMICGOBLIN]

Wish you could have shown the box security features for preventing tampering. My model just arrived but wanted to check

[@CryptoGuide]

They are all security theatre anyway. If it accepts an official firmware update from Blocksteam then you are good to go.

[@Zimo0o]

How long did it take for you from order to arrival? Ordered mine June 7th still processing

[@TheATOMICGOBLIN]

@@Zimo0o it took 5 days to process and ~1 month to receive. Might be a demand problem due to Ledger controversy?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea basically every vendor has been struggling to keep up with the exodus of Ledger users...

[@TheATOMICGOBLIN]

@@CryptoGuide Thankfully I'm a Bitcoin University subscriber 😌

[@zoleeeagle9339]

Thanks for your videos. I have a question for using a mobile wallet app as "watch only" Is this option safe to check Bitcoin balance with worry about losing it? I don't want to use mobile apps for any Bitcoin transactions, only watch. Thank you

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, that's exactly what watch wallets are for.

[@inv3st_eth839]

may i ask which is the safest wallet to store btc and eth?

[@CryptoGuide]

Bitbox02 is a great option that I have done a video on I'm the past.

[@chrishayes8012]

You are really good at your craft. Huge thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks, glad it helped

[@redriderbbgun8018]

He is? He hardly explained anything in detail and rushed thru the whole process. 🤦

[@CryptoGuide]

What types of additional details would you have liked to see?

[@benmiguel]

Forgive my ignorance, got a question in regards to blockstream and some of the data on servers. What of these servers are compromised or shut down. Will i still be able to use it? 14:31

[@CryptoGuide]

I assume that you are referring to the blind oracles, so if so the answer is yes. (You can run either statelessly or host your own PIN server) At most you would need to wipe and reinitialise the Jade with your seed.

[@JonnyWinny]

@@CryptoGuideis there any way back doors or anything like that could be in the code for the jade? Afraid to get one and put big money into it

[@CryptoGuide]

It's open source with deterministic builds, so can be verified like a Trezor, Coldcard, etc. (or even just built as DIY)

[@srinivasr1283]

How to create liquid or lightening bitcoin accounts on Green?

[@CryptoGuide]

I tend to focus on main chain stuff, you can look at the official docco here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ7We4amfcaem8U

[@samueladams584]

I don't know what I messed up, I thought I selected single wallet and ended up with a address starting with 3. Did I get a boring legacy segwit, I thought it had native segwit option... What is the average difference in fees between legacy and native ?

[@CryptoGuide]

This is just a legacy-segwit type address, which is the default.

[@volodymyrmoisiuk5614]

Is it possible to set up jade without a pin? Im confused with blind orancle 😮

[@CryptoGuide]

If you want to use it statelessly (so load a seed ever time) then yes. The whole "Blind Oracle" thing is totally transparent to the user if you just use the one offered by Blockstream.

[@benhartart9487]

can I use a jade blockchain and recovery seed from a ledger and bring over just bitcoin too the jade and keep the same recovery seed for the other non bitcoin tokens and keep the ledger or is that not a safe idea?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yes you can

[@jansasha2628]

Dose it has the features of passphrase (24 +1)?

[@CryptoGuide]

It fully supports BIP39 passphrase, yes

[@mstafford368]

Good video. I have a Green wallet. There are 2 wallets on the Green app. One says “wallet” and the other says “Jade” I sent Bitcoin to Jade and it shows up in both wallets as the same transaction. Do I need 2 wallets??

[@CryptoGuide]

So why is it in there twice? Did you do something like import your seed directly in to green? (So does one of the two allow you to send without confirmation on the Jade?)

[@trenton1190]

Do you have to touch Blockstreams servers to activate/use this wallet? If so I would be worried about privacy...

[@CryptoGuide]

No you don't.. You can run your own pinserver, or just run it statelessly if you want.

[@trenton1190]

@@CryptoGuide wish I knew how to do that. Got any video tutorials?

[@CryptoGuide]

Haven't done a video yet. The documentation is here help.blockstream.com/hc/en-us/articles/12800132096793-Set-up-a-personal-blind-oracle and they also have a beta app that can be used with Umbrel nodes

[@naranca61]

@@CryptoGuide What do you mean by running it statelessly? As I've seen in the video, you need to insert PIN even while setting up a wallet, which means server must be involved from the very beginning? Is there a way to use Jade ONLY with seedphrase (and passphrase), completely bypassing use of PIN?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yes you can. Basically you can unlock it with a seed that you enter (or scan as a QR) every time you use it.

[@jasmats]

Is it possible to simply memorize the seed and still use the device airgapped? Eliminating the need for a physical copy of the seed or qr code. Im concerned with exposing the qr code or having it stolen.

[@CryptoGuide]

If you want, but relying on your memory is a guaranteed way to lose funds. If you are want to add a layer of protection to your seed backups, this can be done through a BIP39 passphrase. (Which you would also back up, though not together with the seed)

[@formetoknow540]

Dudes please do not do this what of u forgot its to important of a thing to just forgot

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep... very easy way to lose everything.

[@ColtonRDean]

Does the blockstream jade create unique public keys with each transaction?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, Jade generates a fresh address for every transaction.

[@alaaalbkr8491]

Can I set up the wallet from my phone since I don't have a computer?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yes

[@pfever]

What if the block servers go down? what functionality does the hardware looses?

[@CryptoGuide]

None, though you would need to do a factory reset and restore from your seed backups to use a different blind pin server.

[@jaromor8808]

What would you need to do to lose the access to your wallet? I.e. what to avoid in order NOT to lose the private key? Does the Jade Wallet prevent me from accidentally wiping the device while there are private keys stored on it? I am less worried about someone stealing my BTC, more about me accidentally blocking myself from the private key(s) stored on the wallet... (because of me not fully understanding something about the wallet.)

[@CryptoGuide]

Your recovery phrase (and BIP39 passphrase, if you are using one) are what you need. :)

[@jaromor8808]

@@CryptoGuide thank you

[@CryptoGuide]

No worries, stay safe

[@ocoro174]

sold!

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped

[@JordanDaeks]

Hi. I'm new to crypto and am weighing up the Blockstream Jade and Bitbox02 for my hardware wallet. I've watched your videos on both and they each seem really good in their own ways so I'm not sure which to go for. My plan for now is probably just to buy and hold Bitcoin, but in future I might want to start investing in altcoins as well which makes me lean towards BitBox02. Other than the price, do you think there would be a particular reason to choose the Jade over the Bitbox? Both seem good in terms of security and ease of use so not sure if there's much to set them apart. Thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

The first thing I will say is that both are very good devices. The main difference comes down to thinks like Bluetooth and camera functionality with the Jade, so if you want to do something like use it with an iPhone, or do the QR airgap thing, Jade does that. (And does mobility better generally) If you want anything other than Bitcoin then you will need the Bitbox :)

[@JordanDaeks]

Thanks for replying. I have an iPhone 6s and I've read in a couple of places that the blockstream green app for the Jade can be buggy at times. Do you think my device would be too old to run the app well or should it not be an issue?

[@CryptoGuide]

I have an iPhone 7 here and it works fine if that helps

[@1776_Apparel]

So I do need a computer for this..? I just got my first jade

[@CryptoGuide]

You can just use it via Bluetooth with a phone

[@1776_Apparel]

@CryptoGuide it's saying I need to update the firmware to use with android 14. The app found the device but won't let Bluetooth connect

[@CryptoGuide]

If you are on Android then you can also connect via USB

[@JimmieJohn]

Do you recommend this wallet over other offerings?

[@CryptoGuide]

I think it's a great option. It's easy to use for newbies, has features for advanced users if you want and is far cheaper than comparable products like Coldcard.

[@JimmieJohn]

@@CryptoGuide thank you for the feedback!

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@robbyfiveboy4862]

How does one migrate holdings stored on Ledger to this? Is this ONLY for BTC? What can I do to better secure ETH currently on Ledger?

[@CryptoGuide]

You could either import you recovery seed from the Ledger into the Jade or generate a new one and manually send the funds. In terms of Eth, you could need a separate device. (So you could get something like a bitbox02 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5WlhISMmcumo8U​​ that can just do both)

[@jaejr.]

Whatever you do get off ledger

[@NizJazzBTC]

So if you restore phrase from ledger to blockstream your all set? That sounds simpler than sending with fees. Did I understand correctly? Thanks in advance

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, that's ir

[@NizJazzBTC]

@@CryptoGuide do you recommend restoring or sending over btc network to mitigate ledger issues? Thanks

[@joseperes777]

Is it only for Bitcoins or works with whole.range of cryptos?

[@CryptoGuide]

Jade is Bitcoin only

[@goodlifebdg]

Is 🔋 removable ? Inactive 🔋 for years can cause problems

[@CryptoGuide]

The battery isn't removable in terms of just unclip, but the case is easy to open (two hex screws) and it can be easily unplugged. (Not soldered in or anything)

[@goodlifebdg]

@@CryptoGuide thanks. I hope they use easy-to-find 🔋 in case its broken

[@CryptoGuide]

It's just a standard 3.7v lithium cell. If you get the transparent case you can see it.

[@goodlifebdg]

@@CryptoGuide thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@Hunter_Modelo]

I just setup my jade but I forgot to initialize it first. It still let me create a new wallet. Is this ok?

[@CryptoGuide]

I don't quite understand what you mean, but if it lets you create a seed then you are good to go.

[@Philson]

Does it work with Ethereum?

[@CryptoGuide]

Nope, this is only for Bitcoin

[@Mattytdawgmang]

Great video make, thanks for taking the time!

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped

[@goodlifebdg]

Do you think this is the best overall HWW now ?

[@CryptoGuide]

I'm certainly impressed with what they have done and nothing comes close for the price. (And I'm not sure the higher price of other options is justified in terms of security and features)

[@goodlifebdg]

@@CryptoGuide agreed. I just wish they make bigger screen

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea the tiny screen is certainly a major shortcoming. (One of the corners to cut to keep prices down)

[@goodlifebdg]

@@CryptoGuide its ok, just dont cut security 👍🏻

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@Btree33]

Wait. CN I have a seed phrase and a seed qr or do I need to choose one

[@CryptoGuide]

You can have both, a SeedQR is just QR code representation of your seed.

[@TreyMcClain1]

@@CryptoGuide To clarify, can you have a seed for one wallet in the device and then also access another wallet on occasion by scanning its QR? If so, scanning the QR of the other wallet for a one time transaction approval wouldn't erase the previously stored wallet, would it? Hope this makes sense. Thanks.

[@CryptoGuide]

Basically if you use it in stateless mode, you load a seed or SeedQR that is only used for that session. (So until you lock it, etc) This temporary seed doesn't overwrite anything.

[@Mstrofpup]

So to use the cold storage wallet you have to first connect to a hot phone after having it generate a private key?? what?

[@CryptoGuide]

The private keys never leave the Jade, but the Jade also doesn't store the decryption keys for the wallet data on-device, but rather stores it on the blind Pin-Server. (The phone being hit is irrelevant for this step, as the Jade is communicating through the phone, not to the phone)

[@jamesgeorge65]

Desktop as well? Or, only mobile?

[@CryptoGuide]

Desktop and mobile

[@FerroGamer98]

This or bitbox02 or cold card?

[@CryptoGuide]

This is the best value by a long way, Bitbox02 is probably the simplest in terms of a USB device like a Ledger. Coldcard is fine too, but only for more advanced users. (If you have to ask them Coldcard probably isn't for you)

[@NizJazzBTC]

Do you think this is more secure than ledger nano x? Thinking it's time to move away from them. Thanks cheers!

[@CryptoGuide]

In some ways yes it's more transparent, but in other ways it's less secure

[@NizJazzBTC]

@@CryptoGuide how is it less secure? Thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

Doesn't have a secure element, so can't verify hardware genuineness in as robust of a way. (This is basically true for everything but Ledger)

[@Anontradesbtc]

But jade is more secure against 3rd party entities right?

[@CryptoGuide]

Depends on what you mean by that, (which entities specifically) but if you are running your own PIn-Server then yes.

[@Emrico35]

it's a bitcoin-only wallet? or other coin types supported?

[@CryptoGuide]

Jade only supports Bitcoin

[@ahmetx7456]

thanks bro 💎💎

[@CryptoGuide]

No worries, glad it helped

[@richardkelly1367]

Hi - great video - super helpful. A quick question about needing the random number (PIN) generated by Blockstream could become a liability. If Blockstream should go out of business, does that mean you'd be locked out of the device? Many thanks in advance advance.

[@bitcoin__help]

I think you're referring to the blind oracle/PIN protection. If Blockstream's blind oracle were to go down, you can access Jade without an oracle by manually entering your seed phrase or scanning a SeedQR... or you can also set up your own PIN oracle and use that instead

[@CryptoGuide]

You are correct that the Jade requires the external PIN-Server to be functioning to be able to be unlocked normally. (This is true whether you are using Blockstream's server or self hosting one) You can still unlock the wallet using something like a SeedQR or wipe/restore it from your backups, as these aren't dependent on Blockstream at all. (And you could also select a different PIN-Server as part of the re-initialization, so the hardware can continue to be used even if Blockstream were to disappear)

[@bitcoin__help]

We're also working on a super easy personal blind oracle app for node-in-a-box implementations like Umbrel

[@richardkelly1367]

​@@CryptoGuide- thank you!

[@richardkelly1367]

​@@bitcoin__help- thank you!

[@CorZ1lla]

have you tried Jade as a multi sig?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, worked really well. It supports saving multisig wallets on-device just like a Coldcard, Keystone, Bitbox02, so much better than the likes of Ledger/Trezor

[@CorZ1lla]

@@CryptoGuide thank you for replying.

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@Neo.Styles]

is this device only for bitcoin? why does it say AND liquid assests?

[@CryptoGuide]

Liquid is basically a layer 2 network for Bitcoin, so supports Bitcoin (and other things like USDT) on liquid.

[@chain_wizard]

I got a jade on your affiliate link. Did you get that?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, thanks a heap

[@chain_wizard]

​@CryptoGuide i will buy every product from your affiliate links. Best channel! Thanks for everything you do for this space

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks, much appreciated :)

[@ShaneTrammel]

Why would you pick legacy segwit. Transactions will be more expensive with that

[@CryptoGuide]

It's just the default. (The fee difference between that and native segwit isn't huge either)

[@autohog]

Love your channel, really value your analysis. What do think of the BC cold storage wallet? If you have already reviewed it pls forgive me, I couldn’t find it on your channel.

[@CryptoGuide]

Doesn't follow standards so I wouldn't touch it

[@autohog]

Great thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@richardkelly1367]

Hi -- I'm looking to replace Trezor wallet and, after your feature comparison (fabulous), I noticed your review of Coldcard is of the Mk3. Wondering if you will be updating that review for Mk 4 in near future? Many thanks!

[@CryptoGuide]

It's basically the same, just has a second secure element and has more ram for larger transactions. (Not large as on value, but large as on data, like Multisig)

[@richardkelly1367]

@@CryptoGuide Super -- thank you!

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@realx09]

To be fair you didn’t title your video “beginners”, which is what I implied you did. It is safe to assume that north of 50% of viewers will be fairly new to the entire “crazy and often hostile environment” as you stated yourself, in which case anyone deciding to pull the trigger and try it would absolutely need a step by step guide without any assumption of previous knowledge, which is (I understand) difficult for someone building their own wallets, for example. To sort of answer your question, I installed green app on windows laptop and before plugging the device App had me choose the option of “storing keys on the computer” or “storing keys on the hardware device”, I got spooked as none of several tutorials mention this, why is that even an option? Well, most likely bc the App is designed to run both hot wallets and cold storage devices, but it’s only my assumption 1st, and 2nd, people running into unexpected decisions won’t gamble 20 bucks, let alone 200 or 2K without simplicity and clear guidance. All this in case we do want adoption, if not then none of this matters…

[@CryptoGuide]

So basically the approach in the video was to start with the device and work through the default setup, rather than start off with the software. (As it sounds like you did)

[@realx09]

That sounds correct, I appreciate the clarification

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea it's a challenge as there is nothing stopping someone from just downloading the software first and getting mixed up like you did. (Especially when the software can be used without the hardware)

[@hokiescott8037]

This may be a good Ledger replacement now. Can you use the words from a ledger on this?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep, you can import the Ledger seed and keep going without moving any funds. (Just be aware that this is a Bitcoin only device)

[@evodevo69]

@@CryptoGuide But doesn't that still result in your seed being compromised if you're using the one from Ledger?

[@CryptoGuide]

Ledger hasn't compromised any seeds at this time, the concern is that the new recovery feature will allow this in the future. (With the new Nano X firmware update)

[@themorvy]

@@CryptoGuide You never know... Since their code is not open source...

[@CryptoGuide]

Well you do in that all the interactions with the software and wallet apps hapoens through the open source coin apps. This is why this new stuff being baked into the firmware going forward is the issue.

[@user-dj1ru8wk1s]

great video ty ty

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped

[@IQG007]

Can u save xrp on it

[@CryptoGuide]

Nope

[@No-yu3vi]

Thanks 👑

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped

[@36trooper]

Just got my Jade and it's a mixed bag. For the money it seems ok, but the PC app crashed a few times on me. The QR feature isn't built into the Green app, it works off the browser and their site isn't working for me. I'd expect things to improve with time but for now it's just ok.

[@CryptoGuide]

I haven't had any issue with Green. So in terms of the QR login, are you saying that the PinQR helper website doesn't load at all for you?

[@36trooper]

@@CryptoGuide Correct. After I enter my pin on the jade it displays the animated QR code. I'll scan that with my phone but then it never displays the next QR for me to scan with the Jade. I'm gessing the servers were offline at the time? Not sure. I like the idea of it, but if the service is unreliable it kind of defeats the purpose of the air gap use case. Not the end of the world since I can just use the USB cable to unlock. That works fine with Green on the PC.

[@CryptoGuide]

I have never had an issue with it at all. So are you saying that the "next" button did nothing for the animated QR?

[@36trooper]

@@CryptoGuide at 7:43 is the moment I get stuck. The phone never displays the big qr code for the jade to scan nor do I see the next button. All I see is a black square with the white camera logo.

[@CryptoGuide]

Sounds like a browser issue on your phone. (Specifically that you haven't given the page permission to use your camera)

[@evyinchina]

Something about keeping it on block stream servers?? Why rely on their servers?

[@CryptoGuide]

What is "it"? Are you referring to their Pin Server approach? (You can self host your own PIN Server if you like)

[@SatWiseJanx]

I'm actually looking for a tutorial to use Jade with Electrum Desktop wallet, Electrum Personal Server, and my own node, which I've had running with Ledger on a dedicated PC successful

[@CryptoGuide]

Jade "Just works" with Electrum, so the process is identical to what you did with your Ledger device.

[@jp62200]

How does it feel to have the hardware AFTER tickereing and hacking the source code of it ? :-)

[@CryptoGuide]

Really gives you a better sense of how or all works together. I actually prefer the DIY options, as there is a sense of satisfaction in having done it yourself. I'm building a few options that use the camera, so still playing around with the hardware and software :)

[@mr_digdeeper]

I’m trying to setup my watch only… but when I enter the XPUB on the green app it says “authentication required”

[@CryptoGuide]

I can't replicate this issue, it imports fine when I log in with either biometrics enabled or disabled.

[@mr_digdeeper]

@@CryptoGuide correct me if I’m wrong 1st step- pull up XPUB on the Jade “shows me QR” 2nd step- open green app, add wallet, view mode only. 3rd step- scan the QR Right? I tried by checking the biometrics box and without checking the box neither works. This sucks

[@CryptoGuide]

So does it add correctly if you attempt to add it to something like Blue Wallet? (Basically to work out if you are messing up the workflow on-device or having an issue with green itself)

[@mr_digdeeper]

@@CryptoGuide I’ll try it out. Thanks buddy

[@mr_digdeeper]

@@CryptoGuide I got the watch only working… during my initial setup it ask me a question but I didn’t see that question on your initial setup it was a yes or no answer. I forgot what the question was smh :( something about “allowing” ughh any of this ring a bell for you?

[@charlesmiller6281]

I've used KeepKey and Trezor, recently got Jade and haven't used yet. So far from beginner/inexperienced. Yet I cannot figure out who this video is made for. Everything mentioned assumes you already know what every term means and how it works. Clicking the Jade without showing the wallet interface is borderline useless. Huge number of terms mean nothing unless you already know what they all mean. But if you know, then of what use is the video? Like I said, cannot figure out who this is made for?

[@CryptoGuide]

Just watch it again :)

[@IC.Wiener]

Is it work with iPhone?

[@bitcoin__help]

Yep, with Blockstream Green, BlueWallet and Nunchuk

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep

[@awolgeordie9926]

Great vid man.

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks

[@OMGWUNSIU]

At 9:36 in I had to bail. That seems super complicated and I was lost after only a brief time.

[@CryptoGuide]

If you are getting lost with Jade then probably just get a Ledger, they are the simplest to use :)

[@AQdff]

7:01 Is there any possible way that the company behind blockstream Jade could steal someone’s private keys or data based off this function?

[@CryptoGuide]

The only way that they could do this would be to push a malicious firmware update. (Which would likely be noticed by the community as Jade has deterministic builds)

[@AQdff]

@@CryptoGuide ok thank you so much for responding quickly!

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[@luckyone7878]

Bitcoin storage is complicated ...

[@CryptoGuide]

It's certainly a learning curve, but it's not too bad if you just stick with using the device via Bluetooth with the vendor supplied Green Wallet.

[@SatWiseJanx]

If you think this is complicated try wiring money to an exchange. I'll take this any day to move currency

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@JaguarPriest]

I’m going to buy one with your affiliate link. Question. You are smarter than me. So when it comes to the code. What’s the deal with the code going to the jades server. Are you sure they can’t get seed data? Is there a way to opt out of having their servers interact with my device? Do you still trust trezor? Would love your opinions on all of this Ps: thanks for getting me my bitcoin back. I will say thank you a million times because you’re the best.

[@CryptoGuide]

Basically seed is encrypted on your device locally, but needs some information from the remote server to be able to decrypt it. The Pin Server doesn't store any part of the seed or private keys. (this is why it's referred to as being blind) You can host your own PIN Server, or just use the device statelessly if don't want any secondary system to help secure the wallet. I think that Trezor is fine, but devices like the T are way overpriced for what they offer.

[@JaguarPriest]

@@CryptoGuide thank you so much you’re the best

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@richardkelly1367]

One more request ... have seen several video about the Tangem wallet. It looks interesting, but all the vids seem a little superficial -- ie/ how easy it is to use. I wonder if you could give it a review with your usual eye to the most important question: security. Many thanks in advance!

[@CryptoGuide]

It's closed source and doesn't even have a screen to verify transaction details and recieve addresses. (They are probably just spending a bunch on marketing at the moment)

[@richardkelly1367]

@@CryptoGuide Thank you. I'm not sure about the verification of transaction details (I'm sure you're right), but I have read - and specifically on their site - that they are open source. I'm sure they are spending alot of marketing at the moment - really seems to be flavor of the month. Many thanks.

[@CryptoGuide]

Only parts of their wallet software are open, there is nothing from the wallet itself on their GitHub. Basically without transaction verification it's mostly pointless.

[@roryivey]

@@CryptoGuideinteresting.. I was curious about verification.. because I send crypto to it but don’t know if it’s verified on the cards? Im guessing it’s applied to the nfc or unique code imprinted on the card.

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@franciscozapien1232]

hi I accidently sent tokens to wrong network. can you help recover please??

[@CryptoGuide]

Have you followed my videos on recovery from other chains? If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/) If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN

[@monikab.6540]

Great video, thank you for posting and sharing the link to comparisons page! I'm just starting on my search for $B only hodl solution, and trying to wrap my head around security tradeoffs. Regarding the comparison webpage, I'm curious why you scored coldcard's security higher than jade's security score, since coldcard has secure element? I heard the SE requires NDA and therefore is not fully open source? Many thanks :)

[@CryptoGuide]

There are a few things here. Firstly, if you go into the spreadsheet you will see why the security scores are different. Basically it mostly comes down to the Coldcard having extra features like a multiple duress type pins, easy adding of diy entropy and a two step PIN workflow that boosts physical security slightly. Devices like Coldcard and Bitbox02 use off the shelf, very simply secure elements that aren't really customisable and don't have any NDA for the developer. (Though from a licence perspective, Coldcard doesn't use an open source license) Functionality Jade and Coldcard are very similar and I'm really not sure the price premium for Coldcard is worth it at all.

[@babyjessicascheekbones5463]

QR code section flew over my head.

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea you don't need to worry about it. Most users will just use it over USB or Bluetooth.

[@Prioris9]

Great job explaining, but it seems like a lot to me. I'd like to see a company come out with a very simple hardware wallet with fingerprint and/or face recognition, along with other verifications.

[@CryptoGuide]

Keystone Pro is probably what you want.

[@testmestfest]

dcent or tangem g

[@CryptoGuide]

Probably neither, but if you had to choose, probably dcent...

[@samueladams584]

I'll need to see what bip85 is

[@CryptoGuide]

Basically it's a standard that lets you derive additional "child" seeds from a master seed phrase. (So handy if you have multiple wallet seeds)

[@mkeith328]

I want nothing to with Bitcoin running on my phone.... But great video

[@CryptoGuide]

You don't need to use you phone and can just stick with desktop if you like :)

[@Mstrofpup]

"cold" storage. i guess.

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@stepchild5453]

Wow made it look like it would work. Didn't work for me. Going back to tresor

[@CryptoGuide]

What specifically didn't work for your?

[@stepchild5453]

@CryptoGuide set up gets to a certain point and it stops. It's charged, Bluetooth on. Installed the version they said to and it just starts over. I've installed it 9 times and the jade device says "connect to app" that's exactly what I'm trying lol

[@CryptoGuide]

So does it connect via USB? Did you try a different phone?

[@吴森森-z5t]

Bitcoin-only wallet？

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep

[@IamaNewCreature]

Great video, man! Will use your code if I grab one. Is this a good storage to keep large amounts/life savings?

[@CryptoGuide]

It certainly is. The default wallet app (Green Wallet) that comes with it is easy to use and flexible for both large and small amounts. (And it is also a great device for more advanced feature if you want to use those down the line)

[@IamaNewCreature]

@@CryptoGuide thanks!

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@finality4795]

I prefer to rely on my device than the blockstream servers, or any server.

[@CryptoGuide]

You can self host the PIN-Server, but if you want something that runs standalone, then something like the Trezor Safe 3 is a great option

[@themorvy]

It does support just BTC!

[@CryptoGuide]

That's eight

[@gavinclaassen6440]

The biggest challenge I have is seeing the script on the device screen. Too small for me. I would need a magnifying glass to try operate it .

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea it's certainly an issue in terms of text size

[@gymnalysis]

Where promo code?

[@CryptoGuide]

Promo code "cryptoguide" will give you 10% off

[@clutch2827]

I don't know if I'd trust an app on my phone and communicating through bluetooth...

[@CryptoGuide]

Then you can just flash a no-USB firmware build and use it via USB or QR :)

[@jaromor8808]

It feels rather unfortunate to call these devices wallets when (and correct me if I'm wrong) they merely store keys to a wallet~address on the network...? I don't know how to call them, but using one word to refer to two fundamentally different elements in the ecosystem adds to the confusion. (Yes, I know you did not come up with those.)

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea something like keyring or keystore would be more accurate. :)

[@nick-oi1xf]

Cold Card is far superior.

[@CryptoGuide]

It's certainly got some extra features, but I do think it's questionable whether it's worth it for the extra cost when compared to Jade for most people...

[@rmondave]

Wth i thought each word in seedphrase is min of 4 letters???

[@CryptoGuide]

There are a few words with less than 4 (3 letters) in the BIP39 word list :)

[@tomrusack3266]

Not for beginners.

[@CryptoGuide]

It's quite straightforward if you must stick with the vendor supplied software.

[@ScottDieken]

Wow so complicated

[@CryptoGuide]

What part of it do you find complicated or confusing?

[@nobody-x7g]

As a non technical person the rapid speed and lack of clarity of speech was very frustrating. It was as though you assumed prior expertise and knowledge.

[@CryptoGuide]

Probably best to just watch it a second time, maybe at 0.75 speed

[@Btree33]

@@CryptoGuidelol

[@Btree33]

Most ppl thah buy stuff like this have some tech experience. My grandmother for example is not buying this

[@JimmieJohn]

Do you recommend this wallet?

[@CryptoGuide]

yep

[@Jerome-jd6ig]

Not novice friendly. I can’t imagine how many times he or especially I would be befuddled by this process.

[@CryptoGuide]

Where exactly did you get stuck?

[@PrakashGhai19]

thats an ugly looking device.. zero aesthetics.. not getting it for sure.. I mean what was blockstream thinking

[@CryptoGuide]

They are going for the most accessible price that is also still open source. (So it's basically a lightly modified M5StickC-Plus) Thr UI has also had a major refresh since I made this, so that is much nicer now.

[@jaromor8808]

Then you'll either cough up several times more or get less functionality. Regardless of that, good luck to you sir with your choice! 👍

[@CryptoGuide]

That's basically it. They have offered an incredible amount of functionality for a fraction of the price of all other comparable devices. (Which is great for those who can live with tradeoffs from a smaller screen)