[4.1] Furina is NOT Weak - Speculative Character Analysis

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Rainthority

Rainthority

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@Rainthority
@Rainthority Жыл бұрын
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@TCGKevUNBOXING
@TCGKevUNBOXING Жыл бұрын
what music are you using for the whole video? That mystery sound is cool, what is it?
@Rainthority
@Rainthority Жыл бұрын
@@TCGKevUNBOXING they're music from the Fontaine OST album. I'll put the timestamps of each track below. - 00:00 Caliginous Hearthfire - 00:59 Qui me freine a un tel moment - 02:53 Deductive Rendition (I think this is the one you're referring to?) - 09:15 Raven Gloss of Darkness
@freydomgod7112
@freydomgod7112 Жыл бұрын
Have to agree on this one "for the best guise to work, she gotta believe her own lies first". As we saw in her argument between Arlecchino where she said "As long as I continue on as I am, I will be able to hold my head up high". Those words actually make sense right with your theory right now.
@allentayoto7387
@allentayoto7387 Жыл бұрын
As time pass by, Furina's character slowly became more and more interesting among the Archons. It's arguable to say that she's a better character than Venti and Zhongli since those two also holds a lot of interesting secrets, but she's certainly better written than Nahida and Ei. Nahida doesn't hide things and Ei seems to genuinely don't know anything. Meanwhile, Furina's character keeps "changing" so to say. First, we met her as this haughty god that is only bark but no bite. Then we find out that she's actually quite the pitiful character. And now, a number of details points out to the possibility of her being a perfect actress that purposely leads others to achieve her goal.
@wispral7739
@wispral7739 Жыл бұрын
@@allentayoto7387and i like how it's more symbolic of people irl - most of the archons are so straightforward while furina is more 3 dimensional
@allentayoto7387
@allentayoto7387 Жыл бұрын
@@wispral7739 I just hope Hoyo would stop adding useless fillers (like the whole prison thing in 4.1 archon quest) and just focus on the actually important stuff. Because the characters in Fontaine are really interesting.
@yourstruly_chritsufi
@yourstruly_chritsufi Жыл бұрын
​@@allentayoto7387it's a build up
@youngrydah4374
@youngrydah4374 Жыл бұрын
​@@allentayoto7387I'm glad they did that. Its more challenging. I dont wanna play something that has no real depth to the story.
@allentayoto7387
@allentayoto7387 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, it'd be fun to find out that Furina had simply been "acting" all this time. I mean... she does seem more like the "God of Theater" than the "God of Justice". For them to suddenly reveal that everything was just an act by Furina to lead Neuvillette, the Traveler, and the Fatui into doing exactly what she needs to stop the prophecy would be the best plot twist for her character. It also adds up to the idea that Neuvillette is bad at reading people's emotions since even he wasn't able to see through Furina's lies.
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 Жыл бұрын
Bruh. That's extreme levels of acting. That's notneven acting anymore that straight up changing Personalities.
@yamakaze951
@yamakaze951 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if it was the case, especially since she admit it as much. 'it was all an elaborate performance' except apply that not to her shock at the Oratrice giving the opposite verdict but her 500-ish year rule as the Hydro Archon. 'all to set up drama and excitement', and what is the 'face' of a group but the social expert? the PR person? the one who redirects the eyes of the audience away from the background machinations of the assistant?
@KingMufasa_8
@KingMufasa_8 Жыл бұрын
Idk she seems like a horrible actress to me
@randompersonontheinternet1038
@randompersonontheinternet1038 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine at the end of the archon quest where the prophecy is fulfilled, the Traveler just stood alone in shock then the environment around them started changing, revealing a stage. Then the entire Fontaine cast shows up and bow to the audience and revealing the entire thing was just an act and Traveler unknowingly acted out the story with them. Because the Traveler was very popular Furina wanted to make a cool story with them as the main character to entertain her people, then it just cuts to people cleaning up and Traveler just stood there bamboozled
@DDemiGodd
@DDemiGodd Жыл бұрын
That would be cool. But that's allot of copium to inhale.
@TheSacredFish10
@TheSacredFish10 Жыл бұрын
If you watch Fontaine overture teaser, you can hear Lyney saying multiple times about magic, scam and "it's all a show". That by choosing right time, right place and right people you can get utterly control on situation. So it's a good evidence Furina might be just acting all this time.
@sunnymay3963
@sunnymay3963 Жыл бұрын
Arleccino also mentioned that she sensed that Furina is under a curse of some sort. Perhaps that said curse is what makes Furina weak and that’s why she’s so aplomb because she’s afraid to appear powerless. My guess that the Gnosis is what powers Oratrice D’Analise whatever the rest of its name is. And that it’s developed it’s own consciousness/personality with time. Furina seemed genuine when defending herself in front of Arleccino at first, then she put up an act. And it’s actually understandable that she did not think of a backup plan if she’s so sure that she will save Fontaine from the Prophecy. It’s also good to remember that Furina’s banner will be released soon. If it isn’t she than who will be the Archon in her place then? There’s no sense in designing a character so detailed as her just to be like “Or no there’s another archon guys and it isn’t Furina”
@Sacration
@Sacration Жыл бұрын
Exactly ! I personally think that Furina and Egeria are one of the same. Furina + Egeria = Focalors. Remember that Egerias body died in Tunigui Hollow but Rhukadevatta anchored her consciousness to the mortal World. What if, René or Alain when they were there took a piece of it and made in the Oratrice (which they wouldve build) ? Furina would then be a "human" body which she build for herself? The same way oceanid Can split themselves by creating a Lil oceanid ? Look Even Neuvillette who IS a whole New gen sovereign only had one arkhe alignement so for Furina to have both she would need to be 2 characters in 1 This will continue thé pattern of 3 forms of justice and te biblical references will continue to make sense. As such : The Father, the son, the Holly spirit. The Erennyes (3 goddesses of vengeance, 3 thrones) Liney, Lynette, Freminet Neuvillette, The Oratrice, Furina And then Neuvillette, Furina/Egeria . Idk it makes sense in my head😅
@sunnymay3963
@sunnymay3963 Жыл бұрын
@@Sacration honestly, I wouldn’t want to see yet another story of “Two archons - one body” which started with Ei and Makoto and continued with Nahida and Rukhadevata bc it’s getting boring to see two archons that are twins/look the same 😅 Oratrice being the preserved consciousness of Egeria makes sense. The Gnosis is most likely in it too. And if our guesses are correct it would make sense for Oratrice to make Childe guilty on purpose so he gets dragged into the Fortress of Meropede to connect to what he’s “awakened” in the past. I wonder if he will be the key to resolve the problem with the prophecy. Can’t really say anything about the biblical references unfortunately since I’ve never dug so deep 😆 I only analyze what we’re given in the game
@Lemural
@Lemural Жыл бұрын
Oratrice Mecanique D’Analyse Cardinale
@sunnymay3963
@sunnymay3963 Жыл бұрын
@@Lemural exactly 🤪
@lelouchlamperouge1287
@lelouchlamperouge1287 Жыл бұрын
​@sunnymay3963 It's kind of been like that since the beginning (because of Venti)
@mijmijrm
@mijmijrm Жыл бұрын
an aspect of Hydro Archon's being is absent. She's incomplete. Much in the same way that Nouvilette's memory is not complete. The part of her that is absent manifests as a personality. My crazy theory is that the people of Fontaine are portions of the Archon's being. The people of Fontaine were created from the being of the Archon. When all the people of Fontaine are disolved and return to her, she'll be complete, but alone.
@Rainthority
@Rainthority Жыл бұрын
Yikes. That's the most heartbreaking theory I've heard so far. With her personality, do you think she would ever let that happen?
@zelgadisgreywolf8313
@zelgadisgreywolf8313 Жыл бұрын
@@Rainthority It is quite possible she will - there is a theory that all of Fountain people don't exist, because knowing about the incoming apocalypse Egeria had already drowned all people in Fontaine and remade them from parts of herself, putting also part of herself as new Archon to play this show, hiding from entire Teyvat the original sin, the sin of hydro archon. And if theory about archons being magical beaings of reach region (like Venti is a wind wisp, or Morax and adeptus), then Egeria can easily do this as she would be an oceanid, and they can split themsleves into many peaces, that can actually pretend to be humans. It could explain why all people in Fountaine are born with a sin.
@shoevarnish
@shoevarnish Жыл бұрын
It's surpsing how incredibly close you got to what furina actually is! 4.2 is incredibly simmilar to your analysis
@Rainthority
@Rainthority Жыл бұрын
Ohh? I can't wait to find out!
@_jjjust.dreaming_
@_jjjust.dreaming_ Жыл бұрын
as someone whos been lying to themselves for so long they cant tell when theyre being honest to themselves anymore i love this video
@ignorantsenpai9019
@ignorantsenpai9019 Жыл бұрын
It really does feel like furina is counting on something to happen that she either can't reveal or is not directly working on. It could also be that she boasts about her divinity so often because she wants to hide the fact that her powers might be completely tied up elsewhere.
@TkK1122
@TkK1122 Жыл бұрын
I loved your last theory of "reaching the heaven and then being deceived" it def fits her being "cursed". Or maybe the other part of furina is trapped in the oratrice( idk the spelling lmao) and that's the one crying in the fountain? Can't wait for 4. 2!!
@dub2459
@dub2459 Жыл бұрын
Neuvillette has a voice line about a woman that ran a mansion she still controlled it even after death, makes me wonder if he’s trying to tell us something
@Sacration
@Sacration Жыл бұрын
Furina is creation of Egeria Im telling yall right now
@LordUrfael
@LordUrfael Жыл бұрын
I have the same theory, except in mine the clueless Furina is actually a different person's consciousness inside the hydro archon's body, which the actual hydro archon only uses occasionally. Both sound equally plausible, but yours is (imo) more interesting. The primary reason I know Furina is the hydro archon is the statue of the seven. Every statue is a perfect replica of the current archon of that area wearing different clothes. The best way to prove this is to look at the hair, it is always a perfect one to one replica, and the same goes for Furina.
@allentayoto7387
@allentayoto7387 Жыл бұрын
To add, Neuvillette pretty much made it clear that he's not the Hydro Archon. So really, there's no other candidates left than Furina herself. What I would really like to see is what sort of connection Furina had with the former Hydro Archon. The only thing we know so far about her predecessor is after fighting the Abyss 500 years ago, that god turned into the Amrita Pool (yep, this is a detail that was given during the last dessert world quest).
@brooklyns.b.3570
@brooklyns.b.3570 Жыл бұрын
Have you played Layla's hangout? I think Furina and Layla shares a lot of similarities. The only difference is that Furina's case might have more divine and mystical reason that made her that way; Unlike Layla whose case is more psychological.
@Amethyst.i
@Amethyst.i Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if it was similar to that
@ChristianThatLovesGod
@ChristianThatLovesGod Жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I think Furina does not have two personalities. Instead, I think she made herself forget everything. Maybe she stored her real thoughts/ consciousness in the oratrice, and the indemnitium collected is used to restore her power. Could be she was indeed cursed by the heavenly principles and in order to restore her power, she hid her true consciousness in the oratrice and uses the energy she gets from trials. her physical body would be a clueless version of herself, but with a love for the trials. This could be the plan she has to stop the prophecy, but she doesn’t remember due to her consciousness erasing her memories.
@puck9222
@puck9222 Жыл бұрын
The water gem (ascension material) also hint to multiple personnalities on its description as if the hydro archon was responding to herself
@mememon5010
@mememon5010 Жыл бұрын
I think Furina actually has a plan, which is to reverse the archon power and give it back to Neuvillette. Paimon asked why Neuvillette didn't just deal with primordial sea he answered that the basis of archon authorities was stolen from defeated sovereign dragon. Furina knew this and put Neuvillette as the Judge of fontaine and collect indemnitium through him as a process to return back the power. But she don't know how long this would take. That's why she got offended when The Knave accused her of doing nothing. This is also why she don't have her power and it's probably her other self in the Oratrice doing all this task while suffering alone.
@jason-qc5lr
@jason-qc5lr Жыл бұрын
thats not really a plan, thats just a way to escape her responsibilities (if she even is a god)
@jason-qc5lr
@jason-qc5lr Жыл бұрын
she could have been offended because of her ego
@allentayoto7387
@allentayoto7387 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, from the latest world quest, we find out that the Indemnitium energy is actually dangerous to humans. So it's possible that it may be a form of energy that only dragons can handle. Which may also lead to the reason why as Arlecchino said, the Oratrice had been gathering way too much energy. If Furina's plan is actually to give Neuvillette his full power back, then it's going to further prove that Furina had been manipulating everyone (Traveler, Neuvillette, and the Fatui) to stop the prophecy.
@LordUrfael
@LordUrfael Жыл бұрын
@@allentayoto7387 I really like your theories, but I think you need to cut back on the copium
@jason-qc5lr
@jason-qc5lr Жыл бұрын
@@allentayoto7387 but that depends on what gives them that power. is it the dragon biology, or their power? because if its their power, the archon quest already said that the archons have a part of the dragon sovreigns' powers, so if it was the powers that give them immunity, wouldnt it be wiser for her to take neuvillette's powers?
@themasterflexG
@themasterflexG Жыл бұрын
Most people did call Venti weak, though. The ones that said he was “acting” were labelled “copium” because there’s “no possibility of him willingly handing over the gnosis Morax style because he’s not as powerful or cunning” even though he and Morax were the only two original archons left alive after three major wars and canonically trained Raiden Ei in fighting serving as her sparring partner. Furina is either acting or her other self was putting on the weak cowardly facade as part of her cover up, while the other self is doing something else. Her gnosis is probably powering the judgement machine. That probably has something to do with why the research institute is looking for an alternative energy source that powers the country. She’s stalling time between the search and the prophesied flood of primordial water.
@TheDhanaMC
@TheDhanaMC Жыл бұрын
Venti is cunning, not in a bad way, he works in a secretive way and he keeps plotting & keeps doing stuff being behind the scenes. He dissed Signora instead of fighting back, if you’re weak why would you dissed a more stronger enemy that could harm you even more? He must’ve had reason to do that; simply doesn’t care about the Gnosis, actually supporting Tsaritsa’s plan, or other reasons. Morax isn’t cunning or calculative, he is just logical but kinda lacks empathy, he weighs the option of making a contract with Tsaritsa more which benefits his agenda for Liyue. (Edit: eh, kinda calculative now I see it, but for his plan, because he’s not very calculative in keeping some Mora for himself, lol. I don’t see cunningness from him at all). Ei is just brawn, she doesn’t think in a humane way thus making decisions that humans don’t understand and resulting in wars. Furina is still a mystery.
@sarwatarannya8786
@sarwatarannya8786 Жыл бұрын
The reason people assumed venti deliberately gave up his gnosis is because of mondstadt's history, time and time again mentioning the power of the anemo archon, and his supposed role in reshaping the land. He says he is the weakest because he isn't around and people dont have faith in him, but he is the only one with an actual church dedicated to him. Compare that to focalors, taking the seat 500 years ago, whom the familiars of the previous hydro archon actively refused to follow. I definitely think that there's a lot more to her, but its reasonable to think venti deliberately gave up his gnosis and knows more than he seems, while saying that for furina, with the information we have, is blind speculation at best. What I mean to say is that venti and furina's situations are entirely different
@1swagevilregalallen479
@1swagevilregalallen479 Жыл бұрын
Venti having Church doesnt make him special, all archons have a place of worship. Zhongli-The Pavilon Ei-Grand Narukami Shrine Nahida-Sanctuary Of Surasthana Furina-Opera Epliclse.
@syarifairlangga4608
@syarifairlangga4608 Жыл бұрын
Not all archon are fighter. Venty capabilities is he can hear everything and can fly everwhere who have wind. Even Makoto was not a fighter . Raiden in the other hand is pure fighter.
@iosis9324
@iosis9324 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Venty is the only character who was in Celestia and the son of the goddess of Time. Also, to use a glider, no matter what region you are in, you must give a prayer to Barbatos to fly, if you don't pray to him, you won't be able to fly.
@abyssy182
@abyssy182 Жыл бұрын
Also! There was a line in which Jean says: _'The Cryo Archon coveted the power of the Anemo Archon'_ or along those lines, it has the same meaning. A video of Mondstadt's Archon Quest made by MaL AnimsGaming, 4:33.
@Juulenii
@Juulenii Жыл бұрын
I think Arlecchino just left Furina alone because that'd cause a whole new crisis in Fontaine. If they found out their Archon died they'd not have the prophecy to panic about but their Archon's death and what danger they could be under to have caused the death of their archon. Not only that but she might've known the bigger consequences the death of an Archon could create. When the god of salt, Havria, died (explained in Zhongli's first storyquest) her power caused all her people to turn into salt and she was just a lesser god. If an Archon died who knows what whole new calamity it would ensue? Very interesting theory btw. If she was some manipulative genius that'd be quite the twist. I remember Venti saying he was the weakest among the seven and yet Furina makes herself out to be even weaker🤔
@3colin1
@3colin1 Жыл бұрын
Furina is obviously playing dumb. All we know is she's on some curse that might be the reason of her preventing disclosing her plans. The Oratrice is probably a big hint to her plans. Anyway, I know she's cooking something. My theory though is she's gonna give her Gnosis to Neuvillette since Neuvillette told us that he might be of little help unless the archon disappears and retrieve his power that's been in the form of Gnosis. 4.2 is gonna be a roller coaster!
@Rhaphidophile
@Rhaphidophile Жыл бұрын
The God of Justice and Lies. I feel like Furina is split into two; the other half is in the Oratrice and the half inside the Oratrice is the archon consciousness and she taps into herself when needed, like Ei with Raiden.. which would explain her eyes (as I was writing this, you literally mentioned it
@TridentH20
@TridentH20 Жыл бұрын
If her plan involved forbidden knowledge, maybe it was wiped when Nahida purged the irmunsil. This would explain why she seems to have gaps in her memory that she seemingly "should" have.
@Inei0_
@Inei0_ Жыл бұрын
Ur theory is good although i think the devs would come with something different rather than connecting fontaine archon quest to sumeru's.
@Navra-sc2ws
@Navra-sc2ws Жыл бұрын
If that happen, then nahida and furina collab story will happen in archon story. Until now we never see archon interacted each other.
@Inei0_
@Inei0_ Жыл бұрын
@@Navra-sc2ws excuse me the lantern rite, wanderborne poetry and more?
@Navra-sc2ws
@Navra-sc2ws Жыл бұрын
@@Inei0_ no real interaction bruh. And they pretend for not know each other.
@belleboy1711
@belleboy1711 Жыл бұрын
Imagine going for a nightly stroll and you see a cute cat running around. To approach a cat, you must appear non-threatening but because of excitement of its floof you cannot so ur in this balance of having to stay calm to approach the floof and being excited to pet the floof this basically makes you open to attacks that's why she was caught off guard. Basically cats are the most effective debuff. I rest my case.
@honeyispure
@honeyispure Жыл бұрын
This is very similar to how I theorize Furina's current sinuation. Very good video!!
@nkosiezikalala5267
@nkosiezikalala5267 Жыл бұрын
"Anybody can act, but can you BE The Character?"
@kacchan9467
@kacchan9467 Жыл бұрын
I like that theory. Furina reminds me a lot of Shawn Frost from Inazuma Eleven, We only see one body but maybe the drama queen we see is a fake consciousness she created to put in front of Everyone while the true Furina works in shadow. a little similar like Shawn is the guy we see but when it comes to the match, it's Aiden(the other consciousness) who works while no one notice the swap
@Cata-qp6fi
@Cata-qp6fi Жыл бұрын
If you want to squeeze more, when you mentioned the multiple personalities, it reminds me of a character from Honkai Impact 3rd, the 5th flame chaser, owner of the signet of Helix, the greatest Magician of the Previous era, Vill V. She had 8 personalities in one body with each one act independently, but because of that, there were other ones who were erased, even the original Vill V’s personality sacrificed herself to seal the “evil personality”. Her motif is is of a magician and mechanic, which coincidence, it’s like Fontaine. She kept secrets and played her role to the point where even the evil personality “helped” to erase the current era Herrscher of corruption. She acted in the stage until the end.
@1swagevilregalallen479
@1swagevilregalallen479 Жыл бұрын
@harryshade5700Not really, seele has blue and Val is red, for furina its dark blue and light blue, not really similar, and Quatum and Imaginary, that’s about it really not really seele considering the personalites don’t match not even the deign.
@emilianoaguilarg.8671
@emilianoaguilarg.8671 Жыл бұрын
What if the one weeping in the fountain isn't the Furina we know, but her alter inside the Oratrice? I mean, it's not like she's company inside. Idk, it just popped into my mind and j wanted to share it LMAO
@lazyremnant380
@lazyremnant380 Жыл бұрын
What kept bothering me is why Neuvillette refused to answer when Paimon outright asked him if he's the real Hydro Archon or not. It should have been very easy to say, "I'm not", right? Also, there are locked voicelines on him regarding other Archons, but strangely, Furina's is the only one titled "About Furina" not "About Hydro Archon". And then there's his final ascension line. Currently I believe that's just showboating like other characters' final ascension lines, but what if, just this one time, it's not? On the other hand, Neuvillette's Arkhe is "only" Pneuma, and I believe whoever the Hydro Archon is, they would have access to both Ousia and Pneuma, since.. well, it should be the Archon's privilege. Really can't wait for 4.2!
@ridhokurniawan3951
@ridhokurniawan3951 Жыл бұрын
Furina's trailer that just uploaded today really indicating that she's playing role as the Furina we know.
@aru_snickerdoodle
@aru_snickerdoodle Жыл бұрын
Omg I cannot wait til it all unveils! I love ur theories!
@Lemural
@Lemural Жыл бұрын
this has been my theory for a while, i’m so glad to see it being explained!
@ucmanhle9601
@ucmanhle9601 Жыл бұрын
I don't think she has different personality, my main 2 theories are: -She sealed her gnoses, divinity and parts of her memory into the Oratrice to make the machine works. The memory she sealed would be things related to the machine, including how she made it and what it's purpose. So she only knows that the Oratrice has something with her but does not know the detals. -She hypnotized herself into her current states, to deceive someone, or maybe something. I'd imagine her similar to Kira from Death Note, who also sealed his memory to deceive the polices.
@scrwny_kidd__
@scrwny_kidd__ Жыл бұрын
THAT IS MAD FACTS i never thought abt those things you said, mind blowing to say the least
@reincarnatedtobuildaharem
@reincarnatedtobuildaharem Жыл бұрын
She's not weak at all. An Archon is still an Archon. She's just weaker than most because Neuvilette's there to do all the heavy lifting for her, at least it looks like that to me
@sundowner8639
@sundowner8639 Жыл бұрын
Furina is an Oceanid, keeping up appearances for the Archon. I think she's a familiar of the real Hydro arcon who is currently sealed within the oratrice, likely searching for a way to save everyone from the flood with the power she generates. I believe that the real Archon is the voice heard from inside the machine during the archon quest. The current poetry event in Liyue shows how the water droplet symbol is directly related to Oceanids, it's the symbol that marks their birth and it's the physical embodiment of their heart when given to those they love. The event also shown us that oceanids can mimic the appearance of humans for a time. Furina is covered in these droplet symbols and even has them for pupils. (though i guess that could also be a point on favour of her being an archon whose familiars are oceanids). I think the heterochromia is a side-effect of her being gifted with divine power from the real archon so that she can keep up appearances without running out of power and transforming back to an oceanid.
@ammarnk9260
@ammarnk9260 Жыл бұрын
Furina in trailer cries with one eye only and in the 4.1 cutscene she cries with the other
@jg7630
@jg7630 Жыл бұрын
I think furina split herself. The other part, the one we haven't seen yet, is implementing a plan to save fontaine. Considering how water entities work in this game, and how they can change form, that other part could be anything, perhaps even the oritrice itself, or a part of it along with the gnosis. Arlecchino says furina, the one we meet, is cursed. Maybe that curse affected her memory, and she no longer remembers the plan fully, and only knows that there is a plan in the works. Or maybe she hasn't forgotten the plan, but just can't implement it for some reason, like the curse or a lack of overall stored power. So if they need that power to save fontaine, and the way to generate that power is through trials, then how best to do that? Make ridiculous laws that ensure many more people than usual end up in court. Then, make that court a spectacle. Make it the event to attend. So that's what the furina we meet had to do. That's her role, that and to keep a positive appearance with her people. Be in the spotlight and keep their attention. That's why everything about her screams "look at me." Meanwhile, her other part is elsewhere, I think in the oritrice. While we haven't met her yet, we may have heard her. She's who is crying in the fountain. She's been alone for potentially hundreds of years, and she hasn't handled the solitude as well as Ei did.
@Zcmb1e
@Zcmb1e Жыл бұрын
4:49 I personally think that when arlecchino said that shes cursed and how shes based off a griffin demon + she looks like 2 ppl in the same, I feel like she has been mixed with some twin of hers and thats why we can switch between paneuma and ousia ??(I think thats how they r spelled)
@AlexDoesntArt
@AlexDoesntArt Жыл бұрын
That was so damn good holy shit 😩😩😩
@VioletLeFey
@VioletLeFey Жыл бұрын
i see furina with the same eyes i see arsene lupin, at first glance she's just a normal person, but she is 45 steps ahead of everyone, however sometimes she needs to lie to herself to make everything more believable. "A Lie when telled by someone multiple times, it becomes the Truth."
@Bullminator
@Bullminator Жыл бұрын
Furina could also be a blade from xenoblade series. Kinda like Mytra and Pyra being split and together they are one. Wich gives up 3 seats at that coluseum.
@testpattern-o7x
@testpattern-o7x Жыл бұрын
shes not a blade lmao. But good theory.
@2plus2equalsphish
@2plus2equalsphish Жыл бұрын
And in smash bros you can switch between pyra and mythra. Almost like how in furina’s leaks she can switch between pneuma and ousia.
@user-qr4jf4tv2x
@user-qr4jf4tv2x Жыл бұрын
she hid her memories like L from death note
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of the theory, but i still don't understand how it shows whether she's strong or weak. Arlacheno doesn't deem Furina weak at any point in time, she stops herself right before dealing the killing blow because she was able sense or was able to tell that Furina didn't have the Gnosis with her and thus made her assassination meaningless. As Arlacheno did mention Furina even when facing certain death did not act like an Archon and even felt that Furina had a curse on herself, and it's not possible to fool Arlacheno with a "Act" as she even specifies that the fear in Furina's eyes is genuine. Now when you compare this to Venti who calls himself the weakest of the 7, when facing one of the Harbingers knowing that there was no way of getting out of this (wherher or nor he was putting up an act) still kept yp an arrogant front, he was talking down to Signiora even after the Gnosis was brutally ripped out of gis chest unlike Furina Furina who wasn't even touched which shows what Arlacheno means when she says fhat Furina doesn't seem like a God at all
@ロドリゲスアレックス-c6z
@ロドリゲスアレックス-c6z Жыл бұрын
Ooo nicely done! How have I just found this channel, subbed!
@jacob6270
@jacob6270 Жыл бұрын
This would make so much sense and makes me think of an idea I saw someone mention around Fontaine’s release, what if the final confrontation in Fontaine is a court case, Furina vs the fatui (mirroring the first cases matchup-ish) where Furina is convicted of fraud and traveler has to defend her while protecting her secret.
@lesibalto1016
@lesibalto1016 Жыл бұрын
Correction, venti currently is weak af, he may have been top tier in the past but now he struggled to remove some ice from himself. On contrary, we have been exposed to furina like no other archon before yet she hasnt used her powers a bit. Also, because of high investment on her, it would be really anticlimactic for the archon to be just another person
@YukiZero
@YukiZero Жыл бұрын
the question is... does she even have powers to begin with?
@2plus2equalsphish
@2plus2equalsphish Жыл бұрын
Venti is not weak. Nahida says that an archon’s power comes from their people’s faith in them; Venti has a whole church. Venti’s braids also light up when he uses his true power and they didn’t in the cutscene.
@bloddrinkeraka
@bloddrinkeraka Жыл бұрын
4:51 the one in the trailer and teasers speaking is the dead Archon Egeria... who's a literal Sumeru lake...
@rllyb0red719
@rllyb0red719 Жыл бұрын
no that has to be furina since egerias voice can only be heard in the final feast video
@martir851
@martir851 Жыл бұрын
You speak well. Well done, good video.
@amthyyst3813
@amthyyst3813 Жыл бұрын
I would love if she’s two in one (souls, personalities,etc) One theory that I believe is that the version of her crying in the fountain is the other half that maybe she has lost/has gone away to prevent the prophecy and that’s why she’s lonely and asks ‘how much longer’
@Novasium
@Novasium Жыл бұрын
the fact that i wrote my genshin oc in the exact same way back before inazuma was released.
@serrapvm
@serrapvm Жыл бұрын
BRO THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSEEE
@katcrow
@katcrow Жыл бұрын
As I was listening to you I laughed to myself bc I thought "reminds me of Layla" and then my brain short circuited bc ....... Wait a DAMN MINUTE And now I think she was a wink at Furina, they didn't delve super deep into Laylas SECOND. PERSONALITY. And I found that surprising. Now? I think I may get why
@newbie2240
@newbie2240 Жыл бұрын
The clue about herself is in the fontaine glider.
@zeithmarc45
@zeithmarc45 Жыл бұрын
♦️ Me thinking that Furina being plot twist fanatic that she made her whole life an act and then surprise herself that she's actually not the Furina she herself knows lol. 😂
@moxie847
@moxie847 Жыл бұрын
When Furina got introduced I though to myself that maybe she is so strong (that is, using her powers can flood the entirety of Fontaine) that she acts so weak to prevent accidentaly destroying her nation.
@anadaere6861
@anadaere6861 Жыл бұрын
Honestly same I thought she's more or less afraid she might go over board and accidentally wipe Fontaine out, that's why she's avoiding anything that remotely implies she has to use her powers
@syarifairlangga4608
@syarifairlangga4608 Жыл бұрын
That kind of power who want to destroy everything is posessed by the Dragons. All archon was chosen because they protect their Region.
@123kroko
@123kroko Жыл бұрын
It gives me an idea of what if she lost her powers? Since she is so defenceless againts physical attacks. Also her eye color tell quite interesting coloration like two types of powers and around blue just like water gnosis. Divine nail blue inside the iris and around circle of purple could it be abyss contamination?
@William-Sunderland
@William-Sunderland Жыл бұрын
Venti gave his power to Dvalin in the cutscene after taking away the corruption energy over it, probably the Anemo Gnosis is irrelevant without that power, bright way to misslead the fatui, that or he might want the fatui to success, in the case of Furina, I think shes the archon and probably in future acts shell need to find the strenght in her and defend her nation, she might also be a doppleganger and the actual Furina be somewhere else or the gnosis be in the opera judge machine.
@meaux7409
@meaux7409 Жыл бұрын
What if furina is multiple concieses of the archon kinda like an oceanid but this curse whatevere it actually is privents the others from taking over as the primary mind leaving main furina with a limited scope of their knowledge
@OnigoroshiZero
@OnigoroshiZero Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for her character trailer. Something tells me that she will be the most profitable Archon until the release of the cryo Mommy.
@jackxiong512
@jackxiong512 Жыл бұрын
Just like in inazuma, when people lose their vision their identity is also loss in a certain asepect. It could be the same situation for furina
@SnappyMaw32
@SnappyMaw32 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. So Furina pulled a George Costanza then. If she believes in her own lies, then it is safe to say that she's delusional unless that's what she wants us to believe. As she said on Overture teaser, - "When are we going to see a real twist for once?"
@alilith3476
@alilith3476 Жыл бұрын
Also this is the first time iirc that we get a Harbinger's POV which is already sus
@mauritao
@mauritao Жыл бұрын
if the authority they refer is the actual gnosis ... than maybe furina just lost confidence after returnin it to neuvillette , after all he did said that his authority was retorned to him and now hes a true dragon...
@Velixxis
@Velixxis Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure nobody would answer some random persons question regarding your plan that you dont trust, unless if you are just really clueless so I wont blame Furina for not answering at all
@mr_dishorerchannel1102
@mr_dishorerchannel1102 Жыл бұрын
'Uhh, boring. I mean, why do i even bother? When are we going to see the real plot twist for once?' She says as we are hinted that Arle is lying to everyone, including Harbringers. Yeah, something is up
@sergeanthuman
@sergeanthuman Жыл бұрын
your practically spot on
@tienhuytruong1362
@tienhuytruong1362 Жыл бұрын
for no reason: me when i see someone make a theory video -> It's JUST A THEORY , A GAME THEORY !
@HolleySabrinaSally
@HolleySabrinaSally Жыл бұрын
Wow your way of delivering theories is very understandable and we had unexpectedly same thoughts especially with her multiple personalities. And i was shocked with the meaning of “Focalors” and that poor voice of the other (?) Furina in the fountain gave me goosebumps~ I wonder what does the cutscene of Furina burning the picture meant tho hmm…it’s notyet being shown in the quests and i hope it will…because Look at the sumeru teaser. The burning tree was shown but in the real quests, it never appeared…so yeah if that Furina burning the picture appears, we might see what Furina consciousness puts upfront and can have possibly more leads
@mune_mune
@mune_mune Жыл бұрын
We don't say Venti is weak because we've seen how strong and capable he is as an archon.
@Pyro8256
@Pyro8256 Жыл бұрын
and also that it don't make sense for an archon ***who knows how to fight*** to lose to only the eight harbinger, especially after nahida said that only the top 3 are god's level.
@Tophat-Turtle
@Tophat-Turtle Жыл бұрын
​@@Pyro8256to be fair I think venti didn't give two shits about getting his gnosis taken, given he didn't even, you know, use powers
@mune_mune
@mune_mune Жыл бұрын
After knowing his capabilities, and learning that the Gnosis doesn't really mean anything to them. We get to look at the situation more thoroughly. Signora attack Venti in broad daylight in the middle of his city. I think Venti knew things would get ugly and will have some casualties if he fought back there.
@unbothered5240
@unbothered5240 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if she is doing this act to keep celestia from punishing the land while she works to stop the prophecy. So there's not another Khaenriah incident.
@Sacration
@Sacration Жыл бұрын
I personally think that Furina and Egeria are one of the same. Furina + Egeria = Focalors. Remember that Egerias body died in Tunigui Hollow but Rhukadevatta anchored her consciousness to the mortal World. What if, René or Alain when they were there took a piece of it and made in the Oratrice (which they wouldve build) ? Furina would then be a "human" body which she build for herself? The same way oceanid Can split themselves by creating a Lil oceanid ? Look Even Neuvillette who IS a whole New gen sovereign only had one arkhe alignement so for Furina to have both she would need to be 2 characters in 1 This will continue thé pattern of 3 forms of justice and te biblical references will continue to make sense. As such : The Father, the son, the Holly spirit. The Erennyes (3 goddesses of vengeance, 3 thrones) Liney, Lynette, Freminet Neuvillette, The Oratrice, Furina And then Neuvillette, Furina/Egeria . Fontaine as a whole is a bunch of Christian theology Celestia (God) Neuvillette (Leviathan) Furina (The w***re of Babylone) Wriothesley (Noah) Childe (Jonah) Idk it makes sense in my head😅
@fafflytailslogisonicuite104
@fafflytailslogisonicuite104 Жыл бұрын
Well... Arlecchino is a wolf in sheep's clothing, Furina poses as a defenseless kitty harboring the ferocity of a lion she will appear weak when she is strong, her deceit and manipulation is simply better- Afterall... We're talking about a literal God, she will be better then mere humans at anything and in this particular case, she is better at manipulating and re-acting fake lies and emotions then even the most proficiente at it, Arlecchino herself.
@nativbachar6074
@nativbachar6074 Жыл бұрын
Love the theory sounds very possible and makes a lot of sense! I believe it might be true!
@GamePlayer-pm6jo
@GamePlayer-pm6jo Жыл бұрын
I agree, it would be way to easy if she was just an imposter and it wouldn't explain her random deep lore knowlege either. So I kinda assumed that she is the archon but like... not all of her.
@isegeese
@isegeese Жыл бұрын
well i think her different eyes represent different bodies within the same entity, if that makes sense.... the furina we've seen is one of the halves, and the other furina is the one that we dont know much of, and that half is assumably more powerful
@vsuyao
@vsuyao Жыл бұрын
Wow i became 1000 subscriber
@Rainthority
@Rainthority Жыл бұрын
Thank you 💙 I saw it when you subscribed and thee number turned 1000
@cocoroach_ok
@cocoroach_ok Жыл бұрын
I believe she has multiple personality, well *had* . We knew for a fact that serious girl voice that was talking to Neuvillette was Furina's. I do agree she's not 100% dumb but I just think the current Furina we met is just alarmingly too incompetent as an archon, I don't believe her wiser personality is still exist in this world. Yeah I know she's a spectacle queen but like, cmon, her wiser personality should do something when she got attacked by Arlecchino, right? She's clueless and lonely but can't directly asking help to anyone (other than Neuvillette maybe) how to be an archon. I do think her nation's problem is a lot severe compare to other nation's we ever encounter so I give Furina some slack but idk, I just think she should be alot braver next time. Do we really need to accompany her when Neuvillette had to stop the Primordial Water leak? Venti said himself he's weak but he wasn't a coward when Signora ambushed him
@teOxgg
@teOxgg Жыл бұрын
great video. I do want to say though that everyone has always considered venti the weakest archon. I'm pretty sure he even said that himself.
@Lucyever
@Lucyever Жыл бұрын
Your "duality" teory reminded me Vill-V from honkai impact 3rd. She has multiple personalities too. So furina having other personalties other than her weak personality made sense to me. Because mihoyo made that before. Why not right?
@munchkinchalateo
@munchkinchalateo Жыл бұрын
​@harryshade5700 I think the facade and the "4d chess w/ yourself" fits Vill V better, and the duality is Seele
@Lucyever
@Lucyever Жыл бұрын
​@harryshade5700well actually she said " multiple personality" that's why i said Vill-V. Yes Seele has dual personality- and i really love her- but Vill-V made me feel like much suitable for this theory.
@Lucyever
@Lucyever Жыл бұрын
​​@harryshade5700🎉 and yes maybe not duality but don't come at me 😣
@noell_me6091
@noell_me6091 Жыл бұрын
IF Furina had put on an act to seem weaker and more clueless than she is. And if she was pretending, even when she seems to be checkmated in arguments, that would have been the ULTIMATE show of a lifetime
@noell_me6091
@noell_me6091 Жыл бұрын
Like, imagine of her seeming dumb or being wrong is a part of a big show. I KNOW that 100% isnt that casr but it woukd have been so cool if everything she did, from when she is right wo when she looks clueless, was all an act to give a false impression Oh wait, I thought thr end of the video might have been different but no, we went for the same thing
@YukiZero
@YukiZero Жыл бұрын
the thing with venti... we see his power first hand... we see what he can do... and we see what he is capable of doing (golden apple). Venti also provoking Signora is proof that he intended to get attacked. he intended to be defeated... furina on the other hand.. all that we see is her weakness. all that we witness in fontaine is her lack of power over it. everything that has happened up to that point only showed her incompetence and lack of divinity. Furina constantly rubs it in our face that she is an archon and that she is all powerful but we dont see any proof of that. we actually see the opposite!... venti on the other hand keeps insisting that he is the weakest and he is powerless yet we see him reveal his divinity from time to time and that we cannot believe what he is saying and that he is hiding his true nature..... that is the difference between her and venti.....
@SirZelean
@SirZelean Жыл бұрын
I 110% agree with this. But then the question is: why? Why putting up this act, what is the end goal? What's her plan? I still can'r figure out even a hint 🤔
@shadowangelafton9847
@shadowangelafton9847 Жыл бұрын
I think Furina is strong but she isnt use to get challenged to a fight. When she told traveler she didnt try to fight, she was bluffing. I think Furina has no fight experience, maybe that is why she was crying. And Venti, we all know him, a selfless guy.
@saiavabel6076
@saiavabel6076 Жыл бұрын
Childe arrest. Arhello meet up all are set up by hydro archon focaloris. Her 2nd personality or one in justice mecha. My theory
@supremacy98
@supremacy98 Жыл бұрын
Lol imagine furina is just a more severe version of Layla's condition, nothing to do with her being conscious but just being oblivious of her other, much more powerful persona. It's kinda odd how she sometimes act all-powerful. She seems so arrogant when judging others in the courtroom, even when accusing the traveller, who is known to have gone against other powerful archons. It's almost as though someone told her she's very powerful/she's given a lot of power, but she doesn't know how or why she's so strong or perhaps doesn't know how to use her power
@Drave_Jr.
@Drave_Jr. Жыл бұрын
Is this like a Layla thing, but even more mental disconnect, since Sleeply Layla has the same memories as normal Layla?
@ramachandran1427
@ramachandran1427 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis was perfect!!
@Kenny-ot4yx
@Kenny-ot4yx Жыл бұрын
Would anyone happen to know what this video was edited in? Or any experience with good video editing software?
@Rainthority
@Rainthority Жыл бұрын
I edited it using davinci resolve free version.
@Aemothkas
@Aemothkas Жыл бұрын
This might be one the best theories in genshin history no cap
@trobitman
@trobitman Жыл бұрын
Am I that strong moment.
@Force-Multiplier
@Force-Multiplier Жыл бұрын
I don't think she's weak lorewise (gameplay it not even a question since she's a runner up for best unit of the game from the leaked content we have seen) at any rate the game must have a plot reason as for why she did that but your Venti example is a bad one Venti got jumped after he had just woken up Furina has been awake for seemingly the 500 years she has been an Archon so it's not the same situation
@orgaysis
@orgaysis Жыл бұрын
Quick note: Especially due to Furina keeping herself in the dark I wouldn't call what she has as a split personality as that's an outdated term with people who have it. These days it's called Dissociative Identity Disorder. Of course in fiction there will be artistic liberties but the main focus are amnesia and alters(people sharing one mind/body) due to repetitive trauma in early childhood. So as far as Furina not knowing her plan and her design representing duality I can see that she might not know but the artistic liberty may be Focelor keeping info from Furina on purpose instead of their brain doing it as it's current trauma response. Also another liberty may be the lack of dissociation but the way one body dissociates can 100% be different from another. I will also like to say that I am NOT an expert on this. XD I child took a child development course and watched a lot of DissociDID
@exist284
@exist284 Жыл бұрын
On another note though a LOT of ppl are convinced that Venti is weak and just couldn’t fight back
@zzziie
@zzziie Жыл бұрын
i love this 9:29
@mattavarius5119
@mattavarius5119 Жыл бұрын
I believe the Furina we see in game is a hydro duplicate of the real Focalor. Hydro and it's region is all about mimics and deception, so if the god locked herself away inside the oratrice and put a duplicate out into the public then it would make sense. Something like the real Furina operating the oratrice to make the true judgements on cases
@minatol2713
@minatol2713 Жыл бұрын
As a meta player the title was deceiving. I read the title and I clicked because I thought you're gonna talk about her kit
@jessicabowman7169
@jessicabowman7169 Жыл бұрын
The difference between the attack on Venti and the attack on Furina is Venti didnt beg for his life, I believe that part of the reason for his alcoholism is the crap hes seen and been thru ( Furina is a young archon compared to Venti and Zhongli ) and perhaps guilt of things hes done for celestia that he may not have wanted to do I believe Venti knew why Roselina hated him and maybe he felt guilty and even felt that the attack was deserved, so he didnt fight back. Just my opinion . ^.^
@whoops5991
@whoops5991 Жыл бұрын
I love this theory
@xvgarnet
@xvgarnet Жыл бұрын
My first impression of Focalors was not good. I really didn't like her. But as the story went on I'm very interested in her and really want to know what she's hiding. Your theory is very interesting indeed.
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