4.6L 2V INTAKE TEST-MAGNUM PI FTW! (PT 1)

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

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@Dustinscustoms
@Dustinscustoms 3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone did this test would be really cool to see more 2 valve
@carloverstreet5884
@carloverstreet5884 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, wonder if that truck intake will fit under the hood of a town car or Crown Vic? Seems the low end torque boost would be helpful in such heavy cars.
@6lik6
@6lik6 Жыл бұрын
have you seen any difference
@johnherbold6539
@johnherbold6539 3 жыл бұрын
I hope we can see trickflow twisted wedge heads in a video. Richard talked about it in a live stream on how good they are once.
@kingyamaha9637
@kingyamaha9637 3 жыл бұрын
Was looking into those with cams 👀
@cainadkins3985
@cainadkins3985 3 жыл бұрын
Watch modular head shops video on trick flow heads and why there pi cans dont "work" with them
@Spad68
@Spad68 3 жыл бұрын
@@cainadkins3985 he hasn't done a vidio in a very long time . Is he still in business? Loved watching his videos.
@JC-gw3yo
@JC-gw3yo 2 жыл бұрын
Trick Flow has developed a new "canted valve head" for the 4.6 . Be great to see how it works here too
@kennethpowers8995
@kennethpowers8995 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope eventually your channel gets to the level it deserves Sir, you put such a great and dedicated energy into your content and the information is better than you can get literally ANYWHERE else.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@r.p.9815
@r.p.9815 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 Good afternoon Mr. Holdener. I hope you are having a great day. Quick question for you. On your personal opinion what's is the best brand for the plastic Intake MANIFOLD for the 4.6L 2V? Is going on a stock 05 Grand Marquis. Thank you in advance and if you have part number for it. It would be awesome too. Excellent channel!!! Thank you for your dedication to it.
@unclesquirrel6951
@unclesquirrel6951 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I blame squirrels
@dielauwen
@dielauwen 3 жыл бұрын
CAT eats them
@jayallen408
@jayallen408 3 жыл бұрын
What I learned is unless you build your motor changing the intake is pointless. Good to know 😎👍
@Shadow0fd3ath24
@Shadow0fd3ath24 2 жыл бұрын
not if you get one dirt cheap at a junkyard and pair it with a cold air intake etc. It can gain 15+whp in some apps with a later bigger throttle body on an older mustang
@davidross-oo2vh
@davidross-oo2vh Жыл бұрын
My 98 gt 4.6... put a bbk cold air kit on.. Hypertech tune..Plugs..injectors..pump..Ford PH2464 F.E. Performance intake..h pipe..flo mo super 40s...Engine flew to pieces.. Timing chain broke..Pushed the crankshaft snout out of the engine and the balancer .Hit the ground and I ran over it..Ugh..junk
@Goose03GT
@Goose03GT 2 ай бұрын
Can you review the brand new Ford Performance intake for the pi motors, they just came out yesterday July 29th 2024
@NewEdgeDesigns
@NewEdgeDesigns Ай бұрын
Do you have a link? Where are they sold??
@akkmdk
@akkmdk Ай бұрын
Hey Richard, I was wondering if you have ever used the pi to non pi intake adapter plates, which utilize both sets of gaskets and eliminate the need to use rtv over the cooling jacket corners. Should I purchase these, or I will be fine with the rtv sealer?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Ай бұрын
I've never tried that-let me know how it goes
@andersonbarbell3594
@andersonbarbell3594 12 күн бұрын
I have a 98 4.6 2v out of a f150 I'm putting in my new edge. I think it's a good cheap option
@BlindMansRevenge2002
@BlindMansRevenge2002 Жыл бұрын
What’s the part number for that truck intake manifold? I have a 2003 mustang GT!
@brendanbuster
@brendanbuster 3 жыл бұрын
I dig the 4.6 2V and 3V. Always gotta root for the underdog.
@billyray4716
@billyray4716 3 жыл бұрын
If you can raise the compression they can hit ls territory. Their hp per liter is plenty with just a cam and bolt on. If only the 2v was like 5.5 liters or so
@A.J.1656
@A.J.1656 3 жыл бұрын
The Bullitt had different exhaust, intake manifold, throttle body and pulleys and depending on sources was only rated 5-15 HP more than the GT. It's not too surprising that the intake alone didn't produce a huge gain. I just pulled my Bullitt's motor for a rebuild. I got some ARH long tubes and x-pipe and I'm planning on TFS heads and cams. Oh, and I might sacrifice a complete Cobra engine to Build it on a Teksid block with a forged crank. Haha
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 3 жыл бұрын
get the matching cams for those heads, more power..
@A.J.1656
@A.J.1656 3 жыл бұрын
I'll get the cams from Modular Head Shop, since Trick Flow's cams are designed for a PI head and not their own head.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 3 жыл бұрын
@@A.J.1656 what, as far as i know TrickFlow makes those cams specific for their head, heck, Comp Cams told me themselves..lol
@rickstorm4198
@rickstorm4198 2 жыл бұрын
@tigerlock.... Nope since they moved the intake valve it changed valve timing events..... In order to fix that a cam needs to be machined for it. Any P.I. Head cam will retard the cam timing events. Cost anywhere from 15 to 40 hp depending on combo. I saw this issue day one in my head. I worked in a performance machine shop and was astounded nobody caught this issue. What's worse is i never said anything and a year or two after the heads released people started figuring it out. I was like duh...
@paintballpartutd
@paintballpartutd 3 жыл бұрын
Make 2 valves great again!
@canadianmarauder1923
@canadianmarauder1923 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff Richard. I would like to build a 2v 4.6 and stay n/a. The 6.2 boss engine seems like a 4.6 stroker with a 4” bore. I’ve been obsessed with the 6.2 ever since I bought a totalled off raptor
@dannycalley7777
@dannycalley7777 3 жыл бұрын
C.M. ……………….that engine is a sleeper , cylinder heads like a boss 429, semi hemi flow in the 300 hundreds, good bottom end and cubic inches , and good bore space !!!
@robinesavage404
@robinesavage404 3 жыл бұрын
The 6.2 Boss is a diamond in the rough. Check out the video of the 460ci 6.2 Ford. It's pretty damn impressive!
@dom_not_torretotedesco5707
@dom_not_torretotedesco5707 3 жыл бұрын
Love the 2v!!!!!!!
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother, me too.. The 4v n LS guys just don't get it, funk them..lol My completely stock 2v in my 09 P71 made 222whp on a Mustang dyno, not too many ppl were happy to hear that n thought i was lying or modded..lol
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
I have a cheap cost effective option on my NPI 2v. It uses a PI manifold from a 2011 crown vic and a V10 Triton dual 57mm Throttle body and 2 phenolic adapter plates to mount the two together. It looks like a composite plastic copy of a Bullitt.
@yeanah2571
@yeanah2571 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Just bought an 03 Crown Vic a few days ago, didn't know some of this stuff was an option. Didn't know the 6.8 had a big TB like that
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeanah2571 Yes sir! The v10 shares the same Twin blade tb as the 4.6L 4v Cobras and the plenum/elbow has all the same vacuum ports and even shares the tps, and iac valve. The only thing you have to delete is egr. The plenum is ultimately going to be used with my Victor Jr intake manifold as a cost effective option for a 6061 sheetmetal plenum but I ran it on my pi intake swapped 1996 gt. It replaced a 04 crown vic plenum that I ported to 75mm on the inlet and turned into glorified tinfoil, ran with an aviator 70mm throttle body. Both run very good and better than stock but the dual blade plenum is more noticeable past 4000rpms. Pretty cheap mod for power gains when done with a pi intake swap but money is probably better spent in gearing especially on a big Vic!
@benignocepeda7720
@benignocepeda7720 Жыл бұрын
@@madmod what vehicle did you put this on?
@madmod
@madmod Жыл бұрын
@@benignocepeda7720 I had it on a 96 Mustang Gt with a Pi intake, then a Victor Jr intake.
@slayerofsouls1182
@slayerofsouls1182 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the dorman myth adressed with an p.I intake. Factory vs replacment
@ForneyRider
@ForneyRider 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day everyone wanted a bull it intake. Especially with centri guys.
@69BigLou
@69BigLou 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for part 2! 2Vs for Life😁
@BustedWalletGarage
@BustedWalletGarage 3 жыл бұрын
The plastic intakes are better because nitrous backfires
@teal_2v338
@teal_2v338 3 жыл бұрын
Uh? Because they can explodes like a frag?
@lloydholt6511
@lloydholt6511 3 жыл бұрын
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@BustedWalletGarage
@BustedWalletGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydholt6511 when the nitrous backfires you’d rather have a cheap plastic intake shatter than a $1000 ( ? ) metal one.
@teal_2v338
@teal_2v338 3 жыл бұрын
@@BustedWalletGarage you think the aluminium one’S will shatter?
@BustedWalletGarage
@BustedWalletGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@teal_2v338 I’ve seen a GT-40 intake explode on nitrous. Really sucked because they haven’t made that intake in over 20 years.
@Lillyrose1028
@Lillyrose1028 2 жыл бұрын
So where did you find the aluminum pi truck manifold
@jasoncampbell4723
@jasoncampbell4723 3 жыл бұрын
My next project will be using ported P.I. Heads so I’ll be looking forward to that next video. They’ll be on a higher compression non P.I. Short block.
@smokenchoken1736
@smokenchoken1736 3 жыл бұрын
Id like to do this as well and just a small cam upgrade
@cainadkins3985
@cainadkins3985 3 жыл бұрын
My plan lol medium sized cam and a garret turbo from a 6.0 powerstroke
@DragRacerVideo
@DragRacerVideo 2 жыл бұрын
Good job explaining the difference in all of em ...as usual...keep em coming Richard
@RJon2006
@RJon2006 3 жыл бұрын
Stock PI intakes are the best intake for most mild 2Vs making under 500w. Eddy for the big power 2Vs. The other benefit for the PI in real world driving is the lack of heat soak. Nitrous on stock PI manifolds is fine, just don’t spray over 150 and don’t spray under 4000rpm. Good video. I was pleasantly surprised at how the bullitt did. I thought it would have gained more than it did up too even on the mild cam.
@brandonjenkins4385
@brandonjenkins4385 3 жыл бұрын
Typhoon intake manifold and edelbrock intake
@465maltbie
@465maltbie 3 жыл бұрын
CAn you talk more about the truck manifold? I have a 2000 f150 and I dont think I have ever gotten it above 3000 rpm. Charles
@thebigpicture2032
@thebigpicture2032 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. My head gasket went so I was thinking of upgrading but I don’t want to lose torque or power down low. I only use it as a truck.
@LargeMuscularTitties
@LargeMuscularTitties 3 жыл бұрын
I would say stick with the truck intake. The plastic PI intakes still have issues with coolant leaks and unless you're revving your trucks out to redline consistently you're probably better off sticking with the metal torquier truck intake
@thebigpicture2032
@thebigpicture2032 3 жыл бұрын
@@LargeMuscularTitties Thanks! That’s good to know.
@fastway007
@fastway007 7 ай бұрын
Why do you keep saying the same shit in the beginning of the video….
@trtlepwr
@trtlepwr Ай бұрын
What made you come to the conclusion that the combination wasn't enough to take advantage of the bullet intake manifold? In my opinion you have to remember that Ford designed that to go on basically a stock gt motor. The bullet manifold is not a high RPM ripper
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Ай бұрын
The Bulley flows much more than the stock PI
@davidross-oo2vh
@davidross-oo2vh Жыл бұрын
Do not ever use a Dorman intake...Ever!!! Its garbage
@MB-ib5ji
@MB-ib5ji 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see one of those old overhead cam Ford 302 or Chevy 350 conversions that will be very cool? And would be very cool to see a 427 sohc Test😜 Back in like 1984 I could have got my hands on one for $12,000! Was cool looking back that i got To fondle one on an engine stand...that is a big motor.
@fordhoarder
@fordhoarder 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a dorman intake. Stock intakes have been proven to make a significant amount more power than the dorman piece.
@banneddamn
@banneddamn 3 жыл бұрын
Its not. Dormans look dramatically different.
@georgebrooks58
@georgebrooks58 3 жыл бұрын
I have the P51 on my F1-A 4.6 2V. Made 720whp with a medium pulley.
@ryanmalin
@ryanmalin 3 жыл бұрын
Very healthy and usable power
@randolphniles2332
@randolphniles2332 3 жыл бұрын
How much boost?
@georgebrooks58
@georgebrooks58 3 жыл бұрын
18psi
@randolphniles2332
@randolphniles2332 3 жыл бұрын
Where does that p51 peak rpm wise? My ported svo peaks around 6100
@wayneireland4802
@wayneireland4802 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting all vids answers a lot question which would be impossible for the average Joe.peace
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@01Snorky
@01Snorky 3 жыл бұрын
I love the test.. just wish it were done on a real PI headed shortblock.. beggars cant be choosers though :-D
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
Pi heads arent all that. 90% of the improvements from the full pi swap comes from the intake manifold and cams. The rest of the gains are primarily the bump in compression which if matched, the npi will produce similar HP. The PI heads really dont flow much better than a NPI and both are pretty lethargic. When you consider the PI has 13cc larger intake ports (159cc vs 146cc) that average only around 10cfm greater flow across the low-mid lift range and actually less high lift and peak flow (160cfm @.550 for pi, 175cfm @.550 for NPI), it looks less appealing. You also have to realize, the npi head has a single angle valve job vs 3 angle with a PI head and you start really seeing the issue. A matched valve job will produce greater average and peak flow numbers out of a NPI than a stock pi head despite smaller ports which means the head has better port velocity. The guys who actually know how to port npi's like Renegade got similar flow numbers to MPH PI's but do so with swirl dams in place making a far more efficient combustion chamber vs the pi head which is already detonation prone due to the plug inserts you have to run on almost every casting. Non PI's benefit from thicker decks, deeper combustion chambers that allow huge ptv compared to a pi, and even use the same pi valve spring just installed at a shorter height which allows for more valve control at a cost of max lift before coil bind. You can fit cams with such a tight ICL in a Npi that would bend valves on any pi combo regardless of degreeing and that is more conducive for power production. Johnny Langton went 12.98 @103 in a 3700lb thunderbird on renegade ported NPI heads, stock shortblock at 9.3:1 compression, stock pi camshafts, stock pi intake manifold, while running through a 4r70w automatic. Thats stock coyote territory for a *lot* less money.
@danielcooper3130
@danielcooper3130 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmod thats fast for a v8 non intech/cobra v8 bird..gona have to look into renegade porting
@madmod
@madmod 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielcooper3130 He ended up going a lot faster. He later ran a shelf comp 270 cam and stayed na with the auto trans. He went a best of 12.16 @ 111 still at full 3700lb weight with subs in the trunk and full interior. Imagine his drivetrain in a 2900lb fox or 3100lb sn95.
@robertmeese6545
@robertmeese6545 Жыл бұрын
They say the best engine that Ford haves is the 4.6. I have one in my truck that haves 271,089 that still quiet an runs good. Still want that Coyote 5.0 in a truck.🤷‍♂️
@adamnorris163
@adamnorris163 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Always something new and interesting. Keep it up Richard
@mathewhoffer4541
@mathewhoffer4541 Жыл бұрын
you do a lot of back to back tests on 4.6L 2V parts ... need someone to settle an argument over the Ford performance PI intake? people keep saying it is a revised PI intake and they remove their 1999-2004 PI intakes and place these on for improved power ? I been telling them they are the same intake as the mustang PI intake except different part number and packaging to sell to NPI owners and mustang PI owners that do not know any better ? and on the same line of reasoning the 2005 and up crown victoria and mercury grand marquis 4.6L 2v engines with the PI intake ? other then only one sensor mounting hole in the front crossover instead of 2 and a different part number it should also be the same ? do not know why they put the other sensor in the driverside head but drilling and tapping a hole for the 2nd sensor is quite easy they already have a flat pad. And if for some reason this entire topic never came up before ? might you throw together a dyno run comparisson because been searching the net and cant find anyone that has done this back to back on these 3 intakes ? and to be clear its mustang PI frod motorsport PI and crown vic PI and who knows maybe the grand marquis uses another one as well ?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
I have not tested but would expect little to no gains
@mathewhoffer4541
@mathewhoffer4541 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 exactly my point but it would be a subject that would have come up a lot and im sure a lot of people would view the test in order to get the real scoop on fact or fiction because a lot of your viewers know you and acknowledge your testing procedures to be accurate. and unlike engine masters which I also love to watch you do not take every other breath to plug wilson intakes :) you are in it for the data learned. plus it is easy to swap out and crown vicoria intakes are $20 a pop and you have mustang PI intakes lying around and Im sure someone will lend you a ford performance intake if not donate one for the cause.
@TheSunChaserUS
@TheSunChaserUS 3 жыл бұрын
Pleaaaase a 5.4 2V test! Or high comp 5.4 4V
@BuffMyRadius
@BuffMyRadius 3 жыл бұрын
The 4V is already a 9.5:1 motor, you could probably extract another 8-10% going crazy high comp on race gas but some boost is probably more practical.
@jonadkins9339
@jonadkins9339 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always Richard!
@hermanrogers1325
@hermanrogers1325 Жыл бұрын
I have two mustang GT a 04 and a 14 5.0h natural aspiration modifying the 5.0h is the best bang for the money
@haloreachcommentary1
@haloreachcommentary1 3 ай бұрын
Isn't the bullit manifold only for 4v?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын
This Bullet was 2V
@billjones2005
@billjones2005 Жыл бұрын
where is part 2 ???
@bajadan2769
@bajadan2769 7 ай бұрын
where can I get a manifold for a v10 --3 vakve
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 7 ай бұрын
stock ones on line
@thegalli
@thegalli Жыл бұрын
even with porting did the non-pi heads compare to a stock pi head?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
yes
@2RCPRODUCTIONS
@2RCPRODUCTIONS 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video and thanks for taking the time for testing but stock pi engine intake test would be really cool between stock and the Bullitt intake.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
if you have a stock pi motor-keep the stock pi intake
@jedwards100able
@jedwards100able 2 жыл бұрын
Try a intake from a 2009 up F150 truck they look just like the mustang/crown vic intake but the runners underneath the intake are lot longer. They go twice depth down in valley as car intake
@2vgod460
@2vgod460 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you do a non pi that just runingsbthe video for me, since I’m a pi engine
@teal_2v338
@teal_2v338 3 жыл бұрын
So bullitt intake dont worth the money .. unless im planing to boost or go all out 12:1 cr 7500rpm with my ported pi’s and big cam.. ????
@josephburns5783
@josephburns5783 Жыл бұрын
Finally found a video with the truck manifold ! Have you done any videos with tfs 2v heads ?
@sock979
@sock979 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota actually use that divider in the manifold as well on their v6s in Camry and solara v6's there was nothing really amazing about that engine except for that one little manifold unless you got the very rare TRD supercharger for it which it was weird if I remember right there was actually no special tuning for it though although I think some people ran the 7th injectors setup commonly used on good Tacoma superchargers back then it's been so long I just can't remember but it was pretty interesting and super rare
@johnbeardsley2962
@johnbeardsley2962 3 жыл бұрын
You're the man Richard! We ask and a day later you provide!
@ciscoh1
@ciscoh1 8 ай бұрын
Would love to try and put one of these on an expedition. Could use the power when I hit the desert
@SteveM-426
@SteveM-426 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Stock 2000 MGM with single exhaust. Have you ever tested manifolds on a "Truly Non Pi" Motor like mine? Thanks, Steve.
@vendediesel
@vendediesel 3 жыл бұрын
Non PI's 96 and up stock for stock actually have a higher peak flow stock for stock but as mentioned are limited by the non PI intake. You have to machine out the swirl dams on the PI's to get them to outflow them peak, so I think this is fair.
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 3 жыл бұрын
I thought nonpi heads also came with a different spring pack that required some serious work to get more than .500 lift.
@vendediesel
@vendediesel 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothybayliss6680 PI cams work fine. They're .505 I believe. They aren't really high rpm cams anyway. With OHC you don't need all the spring tension in the world at higher rpm.
@Sebastianbartledoo
@Sebastianbartledoo 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a cold vs hot spark plug test
@TP-ie3hj
@TP-ie3hj Жыл бұрын
I know its near impossible and the general idea is the same.....which works best. That being said all tests are always on a motor that has cams cylinder heads or some other major modifications completed. If you just have a 2v and you need a intake which actually flows best? Which one would be worth the $$$ that question is never answered beyond it flows up top ...which is the description of the product provided by Ford Racing. No idea what it would actually do to the motor that it was designed for. Other than that.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
do not run the ford racing intake on a stock motor-use the pi intake
@jasongarcia5165
@jasongarcia5165 Жыл бұрын
Hey Richard! Just reaching out because I’ve been watching your videos lately and have seen you do a lot with the ford 4.6 2v. I have a 09 f150 4.6 2v and was trying to see if you could lead me in any direction to get performance stuff for it. Hard to find anything for this truck. For sure lacking power in this engine but it lasts! Looking to get some more pep in it. Have kept up with maintenance since the day I got it. Thanks In advance. Really need some help
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
COMP FOR CAMS, LOTS OF GUYS PORT THE HEADS
@hugieflhr03
@hugieflhr03 3 жыл бұрын
That PI manifold had a really sharp torque peak and then dip. Was that the plenum divider opening? I have a similar set up on my 16 power wagon 6.4 . It hits 4500rpm and you can feel that plenum flapper open.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
PI does not have dual plenum-only the truck
@242bleek
@242bleek 3 жыл бұрын
That hard U turn before the throttle body on the Bullitt intake looks terrible for flow.
@teal_2v338
@teal_2v338 3 жыл бұрын
Insane! Im kinda sad for the bullitt intake😪 i hoped more of it! Could you plz richard add the bullitt intake in you 2nd video? Or is it to late? I also would like to see it shine with a more wild combo ported pi ‘s big cam with a good c/r 🤓🤩. Ty so much for this test !
@absolute357
@absolute357 Жыл бұрын
Can the truck manifold be ran on a car and utilize the open close function?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
not sure about harness provision and ecu
@absolute357
@absolute357 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 so probably a tuned truck ecu
@bodyshotjake7475
@bodyshotjake7475 Жыл бұрын
Any comparison with the Vic Jr
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
HAVE NOT RUN THAT
@RW-zh7kl
@RW-zh7kl Жыл бұрын
Your 4.6 engine seems like it makes way more power than a stock 4.6PI 2v engine. I can't believe just porting heads and a cam can make almost an extra 100 hp?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
IT DOESN'T-YOU CAN'T COMPARE TO THE FACTORY RATING
@stevencaskey9440
@stevencaskey9440 Жыл бұрын
Need to get your hands on the Ford Performance FR500 Intake Manifold. The only issue with that one is the cost of it being everywhere from 3k to 10k. The bullet Manifold also adds 40lbs to the top of your engine meanwhile the PI doesnt. However, You have to Port the Bullet manifold and have much bigger Cams and Ported PI Heads, forged internals, and boost to truly take advantage of that manifold.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
I just sold my FR500 intake-but that is for a 4V
@klampykixx
@klampykixx 3 жыл бұрын
This video pretty much answers what ive been wondering about plenum volume. But what id love to know, if the smaller plenum could be deemed restrictive at higher rpm would increased capacity of just the plenum offer a boost in overall output or only at the torque peaks?
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 3 жыл бұрын
Time to show the 2V 6.8 some attention...the big bang kind 💥💥💥
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 3 жыл бұрын
We all wanna see it. If for no other reason than to see it kaboom. I just wanna see one making 1000hp. The trick is gonna be spinning it fast enough and then the crank shaft potentially being unstable, or cam bearings problems.. I'm hoping. Big time. I think one in an f150 street truck would be hilarious
@sategllib2191
@sategllib2191 2 жыл бұрын
@@PureCountryof91 I want a single cab flare side manual v10 f150 so bad lol
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 2 жыл бұрын
@@sategllib2191 t56 then a 6.8 with manual PCM, tuned, and custom exhaust.
@linoacuna4283
@linoacuna4283 2 жыл бұрын
I have the professional intake manifold on my pi 2v
@Johnnyeatsitall
@Johnnyeatsitall 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus my brother wanted the aluminum ford racing manifold to 🤣
@raybradley4722
@raybradley4722 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 03 mustang gt and i really need all the info ,ty
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@mayracingandfabricationco.20
@mayracingandfabricationco.20 3 жыл бұрын
Richard do you think if you get the aluminum bottom half of the planum it'll be an advantage or disadvantage..
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
it won't change anything if it is the same design
@karamawwad3702
@karamawwad3702 11 ай бұрын
Good evening Sir, I hope you are doing well…. I am a mechanic from California working on a 99 F150 with a 4.6 2V Romeo. Engine is bad, customer supplied me with a 2012 built brand new crate 4.6 2V / PI motor. Referencing your video; will the truck intake manifold ( that might be an NPI ) fit the new PI engine? If not, what are my options? Thank you
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 11 ай бұрын
NPI intake won't fit PI heads, just use PI Intake
@shawnsilverstang2138
@shawnsilverstang2138 3 жыл бұрын
These are obviously flywheel HP and TQ numbers correct?
@elkameleong
@elkameleong 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah on the engine dyno, usually with no accessories either
@TheModAddict
@TheModAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see stock pi vs victor jr
@chrismaze3441
@chrismaze3441 2 жыл бұрын
Do they even make the P-51 intakes any more I can't source one any where
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
I DON'T THINK SO
@tommymach1301
@tommymach1301 3 жыл бұрын
Have you or can you do intake and throttlebody setups on the 4.6 dohc?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
the 4v intake test is up
@toms5oh
@toms5oh 3 жыл бұрын
what about the trick flow 2v intake?
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 2 жыл бұрын
"PI" is Performance Improved?
@mathewhoffer4541
@mathewhoffer4541 2 жыл бұрын
Question ? Your 4.62V test engine using NPI heads ported for PI intakes with coolant passage welded using comp cam springs ? You said you are using the comp cams XE262AH cams ? these have .550 lift ? I was under the assumption that the NPI mustang heads are limited to .530 lift and either need the spring seats surfaced or special retainers and locks ? could you clarify that neither of these were done and that the PI version of the comp cams work in the NPI heads ? was trying to locate a spring seat cutter and pilot to resurface NPI spring seats for the PI aftermarket cams on ported NPI heads but everyone steers me to bridgeport tools ? I am trying to get s seat cutter that is identical to the seat dimensions because these valve guide seals also have a metal spring seat to keep the springs from searing into the aluminum head ? if the cutter is not perfect the valve guide seal will not sit correctly and the spring sits on the valve guide seal. would you need to machine the top of the guide and run a seal directly on the guide and use a metal washer under the springs to protect the heads ?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
we installed new springs
@mathewhoffer4541
@mathewhoffer4541 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 yes aware you need upgraded springs but they say the NPI heads cannot run .550 cams without spring pockets machined or custom retainers that add clearance so there is no coil bind ? most likely if you did not have the spring seats machined you got the special retainers and locks with the springs ? the probably just told you you needed them and did not explain why ?
@mathewhoffer4541
@mathewhoffer4541 2 жыл бұрын
Crower Offset retainers to run PI aftermarket comp cams in NPI heads if spring pockets are not machined
@kylejohnson7258
@kylejohnson7258 3 жыл бұрын
What is the firing order on a 4.6 2v sohc 97 model
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
13726548
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 3 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea for an Other Guys death match: 4.6 2-valve Ford vs 4.7 sohc Chrysler.
@anthonymason701
@anthonymason701 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck finding a 4.7 in the scrap yard... at least one that runs. Its the reason most end up in the yard in the first place. At least thats what i have came across
@gtgodbear6320
@gtgodbear6320 3 жыл бұрын
What about the GT40
@roberth6399
@roberth6399 3 жыл бұрын
Need to add the Vic Jr. its only the most used intake on fast 2v's.....killing me Richard!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS DONE BEFORE THAT INTAKE EXISTED
@roberth6399
@roberth6399 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 Time for an updated test. The 2v world is hotter now than it was 10+ years ago. Hell I will loan you a Vic Jr to test and two junkyard HX35's if you want to do a big bang 2v :)
@darinmackenzie546
@darinmackenzie546 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned a part 2 to this video and I can not find it.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
I DON'T THINK IT IS UP
@jesusmorinjr.8408
@jesusmorinjr.8408 3 жыл бұрын
What would be a good set of cams for a 2000 truck 4.6, 3200 stall 4.10 gears?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
262 or 274
@jesusmorinjr.8408
@jesusmorinjr.8408 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 thanks
@adamturner2507
@adamturner2507 3 жыл бұрын
The 4.6 2v truck motor has heads with larger intake ports and closed chamber heads
@TheVenom8343
@TheVenom8343 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I always thought the truck and the car engines were basically the same, minus the intake of course.
@adamturner2507
@adamturner2507 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVenom8343 no I have a 98 crown vic and its got small ports i got a 98 and 99 f150 base model 2wd they both base large ports
@mercury0214
@mercury0214 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamturner2507 yes 98 is non pi 99 is pi all 99+ 4.6 2vs are the same only difference is intake
@lulujrlaulom7905
@lulujrlaulom7905 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Richard
@teal_2v338
@teal_2v338 3 жыл бұрын
Woot woot!!!! So exited!!!!!
@hollerratracing2083
@hollerratracing2083 3 жыл бұрын
vic jr please
@moosestangls5099
@moosestangls5099 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@jeffschwartz5199
@jeffschwartz5199 3 жыл бұрын
Cool 😎!
@Tomcat71
@Tomcat71 Жыл бұрын
be curious to see the 2004 Econoline 5.4 manifold, it has a lower plenum design .
@russelljackson7034
@russelljackson7034 3 жыл бұрын
Right on
@ryandedobbeleer8464
@ryandedobbeleer8464 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like too see the typoon professional products intake
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
Stock plastic Pi > pro products unless its ported. Ive seen power losses going to the aluminum with the acception to ported intakes.
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 3 жыл бұрын
@@madmod the trickflow intakes make power.
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
@@Prestiged_peck Depending on the model, the Trickflow has a larger cross sectional area then a pi manifold but the runner length makes them more suited to 5k+ rpms. I believe the Tfs, vic jr, and Riechard are among the few that exceed 200cfm per runner. Obviously that level of flow isnt needed below 5k rpms.
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 3 жыл бұрын
@@madmod yeah, that is very much the case, but these motors pretty much gotta rev to make power anyways just cause of how small they are.
@madmod
@madmod 3 жыл бұрын
@@Prestiged_peck 350ft/lbs through the curve with only 281 cubes and 9.3:1 compression is by no means a slouch at low rpms. This combo only turns some 6k rpms and makes enough power to run 11s in a sn95, fox, or new edge chassis.
@Projectpompeii
@Projectpompeii 3 жыл бұрын
Finally
@JasonStewartsStreak
@JasonStewartsStreak 3 ай бұрын
Is the truck intake a stock intake? If so for what years?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын
the truck intake was a stock intake
@hechtspeed
@hechtspeed 3 жыл бұрын
3V pleeaaseeee lol
@jeffsnyder2051
@jeffsnyder2051 3 жыл бұрын
i was hopeing to see a professional products typhoon intake test too.
@xxxmikeyjock
@xxxmikeyjock 3 жыл бұрын
hard to find. I would like one. the only aftermarket you can find is the single plane edel.
@teal_2v338
@teal_2v338 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxxmikeyjock what are you saying? Theres plenty of those? Typhoon / trick flow / vic jr are easy to find... bullitt isnt!
@brandonrohrer7914
@brandonrohrer7914 3 жыл бұрын
I need a puppy
@dielauwen
@dielauwen 3 жыл бұрын
woof
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