4 Generations of Intel i9-s 👉🏻 How much ACTUAL performance gain? | 12900k vs 285k

[@BlueThunder1965]

Let's see the same tests on 4 generations of AMD CPU. Then compare the uplifts to this video. I would find this really interesting to watch.

[@FinalStigma]

Why? The point of this comparison is to help users decide on whether or not to upgrade from a 12900k depending on their usage. Your suggestion to compare the results of the AMD CPUs vs the Intel CPUs will only highlight the difference in improvements. All of us already have a good idea on what that looks like. What's interesting about that?

[@VxStreme]

If you are sponsored by Intel you cant talk about AMD unless its something bad about AMD.

[@BlueThunder1965]

The interest would be look at the uplift over 4 generations the exact same way this video did. Then take the numbers from this video Gen over Gen and compare the 2 side by side. This video in my eyes did show me the new Core ultra is not as bad as I thought it was. There is nothing wrong with an apples to apples comparison with zero bias.

[@MandM_IMO]

@@FinalStigma He meant; do the same comparison to AMD chips, not compare AMD to Intel CPU's but compare AMD CPU's of four different generations.

[@adamchambers1393]

Yep the % increase is not as relevant if it's already say 10% faster than alternative options. It's why the Apple comparison was pointless since yeah might get % uplift increase but is relatively performing anywhere close to matter or are they just needing to catch up faster and had more headroom to make up.

[@hemidog1982]

12th gen for life. I have one computer with an I5-12400 and one with an I7-12700. I couldn't be happier with them. Never an issue.

[@MaryannLynch-z9c]

Agree, Have a stable 12400, 12700KF, and daily driver is a 12900KF it's still great. For mostly gaming with 4090 it still seems fine.

[@IseeIceTea]

I had a 12400f until 2 weeks ago, because I got heavily cpu bottlenecked in COD Black Ops 6

[@hardstylboy]

@@IseeIceTea buy a i7 or i9 or amd 3d cpu for gaming

[@MatarTechPC]

@@hardstylboy recently bought 12900KS skipped the issues with 13 & 14

[@kartikpintu]

nice

[@fabybigyan3005]

Buddy following you since 3years , Beside adobe photo & video editing , Can you please add music production scores too (fl studio & ableton) , there are many music producers who really want beast music production pc scores between cpu's.

[@GLOSSYFUTURE]

This channel should have at least two millions of subscribers!

[@yerachmielb1]

He'll get there. Give him time.

[@paulboyce8537]

With wrong info? Don't be gullible. Using UDIMM to 285K when it supports CUDIMM. Using the correct RAM and enabling XMP has 20% if not more performance jump. Misleading review for clickbait. 6400 UDIMM drops to 5600 speed. And power for 285K is 250 not 253.

[@Motogpideeincercadautore]

Great Review. I went from i7 12700f to 13900f with 360 euros and I only updated the bios

[@WarrenGaum]

Looks like my 12900k is going to be good for many years to come. Thanks Intel 😉

[@AlyxSharkBite-2000]

This does not surprise me 12th, 13th, 14th gen used the same core architecture so makes sense they are just speed bumps, where the 285k is a new architecture.

[@MatarTechPC]

June 1 2024 i bought the 12900KS and skipped the 13 and 14 because of the issues and i can't be happier coming from a 10900kf

[@tallpaul9475]

Think I will be sticking with my 12400F / GTX 1080 ti combo. I was using a 4790K until June of this year. The GPU has been with me since end of year when they came out. That has never failed, except for a fan. Replaced the stock cooling solution on that. I used a Noctua NDH 15 for the CPU. The ASUS motherboard, RAM DDR3 1866, and SSD (850 Pro SATAIII) swapped also. Those are replaced with ASRock motherboard, RAM DDR5 6000, and NVme M.2 SSD (980 Pro) for storage. I am still waiting for when I actually NEED insane processing and graphic power before updating again. Call me crazy, but this works and saves me a ton instead of upgrading every six months to a year like I did in the late 90s and early 2000s.

[@giuliano.montaldo]

Nice Comparative! I am undecided and need help. I currently have a Ryzen 5700G and I want to start from scratch on INTEL. I edit videos in Davinci Resolve, but I see this specific problem that these new Core Ultras have with "LONG-GOP" (H264-H256 4:2:2 files) and I am afraid to upgrade to CORE ULTRA. Any advice??

[@vampritt]

go AM5, that intel platform on the ultra 2nd gen series is buggy. that is why intel score in freefall. i just ordered my asrock AM5 RIPTIDE it has 2 thunderbolt 40gbps ports but i am saving on processor. it will last you another 6 generation if u go on AM5.

[@xeon2k8]

imo your mistake is that you want to switch to Intel

[@giuliano.montaldo]

I understand, but Intel has x2 "Quicksync" performance compared to what AMD offers for davinci resolve and premiere pro.

[@mashirokobato5509]

​@@vamprittnah AMD are worthless in DR PP and Adobe AE.. the reason I avoid AMD the first place..

[@mashirokobato5509]

​​@@vampritteven 9950X can't beat intel ind DR AE PP due to lack decoder..

[@dyson9422]

All I've heard about the 285K has been bad but you have shown that it is actually an awesome upgrade for many workloads. Defiantly not for gamers and video editing.

[@phasestar7787]

Very interesting, would love to see you go back farther in the future!

[@MachuPichuu]

why would you run the intel 285k at 6400MT? 285k gets a large performance boosts running 8000MT+. its also really easy to run 8400MT speeds on the 285k. pretty much works out of the box.

[@Ladioz]

12th gen is my favorite intel cpus. The i7 12700k is awesome for anything

[@tilapiadave3234]

Until you look at 13600k ,, then you see

[@MaryannLynch-z9c]

Agree, I mostly use the 12900KF and 12700KF is my media computer now. It's still great though.

[@hardstylboy]

have also a i9 12900k 4070 super oc its fly

[@Ladioz]

@@hardstylboy I have 5800X3D and thinking of pairing it with 4070 super

[@Mike0193Azul]

Was hoping more from 15th gen. Really hoping they catch up to Apple's fantastic cpus

[@Solrac-Siul]

the 12th and 14th are the best bang for dollars currently. Specially since they can run (now in some cases heavily discounted) with z690. One of this days amazon was selling a z690 unify motherboard for almost 170 dollars, that has 5 m2 slots and pretty decent cooling and vrm's. Side note, assuming 48 gbs is sufficient for the task, the 14700k/kf depending on the price (have seen it recently at around 300usd) is a pretty decent cpu , in many aspects surpassing the 12900 specially if using 7200 ddr5 or better (and unlike the 12900, the 14700 generally can handle 48 gb of 7200 ddr5), Another option is the 12900KS that i also seen going for 250 sometimes.

[@Felale]

Should've started with the 10900k, the GOAT.

[@foxxrider250r]

what makes it special?

[@sadatislamkhan3707]

​@@foxxrider250r10 core in a single ccd. Back then.

[@foxxrider250r]

@@sadatislamkhan3707 Interesting. Thanks

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

I can tell you from experience that going from gen 1 to gen 9 was a huge performance increase

[@cheekster777]

Thank you.

[@seacowDUGONG]

Good work sir ... nice video... much needed especially since it gives us a birds eye view of the flagships from Intel without the fluff. P.S I have a mobile 12th gen laptop with an i7

[@Bass.Player]

Make sure you run the high performance power plan with any of the core ultra cpu's. I just went from a 12600K to a 245k and the 245K overclocks great and I'm running 7600 DDR5 @ 8000. You do know Intel is working on the issues with the core Ultra? BTW: I bought it for 270 bucks on sale from B&H...

[@martinweston7144]

Good to know, I'm waiting until a fix happens to make a final decision for a new Music DAW, looking at the CU 7 265K, living in a hot climate CPU running cooler is a real sales point for me, any pre CU CPU would probably suffer thermally throttling, so I'd lose more performance than I'd gain running the older CPU's

[@arandomguy3369]

@@martinweston7144 Hi. I'm also looking for a cpu for music daw. Is i9 285k good? does it have the same instability problems as generation 13 and 14?

[@martinweston7144]

@@arandomguy3369 I was looking at the i9 as well, but realized that unless you have HUGE projects, a i9 could be overkill, plus its WAY too expensive ATM, the i7 265K is only 4% less powerful/fast for 35% less$, either way IMHO I'd wait until Intel releases the promised new code for the new chips to fix issues found by testers [mainly latency], Intel said that should happen by mid December, it will mean updating the BIOS on your motherboard, which you should always do first anyway on a new PC build.Quite a few, I know MSI MB's allow you to, update the bios before building with just a power supply connected and using a supplied USB stick. AMD will be releasing at least 2 new CPU's with the 3D cache at CES on 7th January 2025, IMHO I'd wait to see how these compare to the new Intels.

[@arandomguy3369]

@@martinweston7144 thank you for info e suggestions. I heard that AMD has some compatibility problems with some plugins of certain DAWs (also fl studio probably) and other types of problems. For this reason I thought of excluding amd.

[@radu1006]

Can we see tests with intel Baseline profile? That is the "Normal" profile, not overclocked one.

[@vitofranzini]

Hi, I noticed that the links are not correct. F.e. The 12-13-14 900 board link lead to Z790 Proart mboard rather than Asrock Nova what You mentioned in the video, and the gpu link is a Tuf card link. Maybe some others are wrong (not correct) too . . I hope I could help with this! 😊

[@luvoverthewall]

Please cover i5s and i7s the same way too 🙏

[@andrescarrasco1248]

The better upgrade would be to an apple m4 or a Ryzen 7950x3d

[@omnymisa]

It would be amazing to see you reviewing the new Xeon performance!

[@mixasphil4228]

Hello Lauri. Based on knowledge acquired from your videos, we've just built a creator pc with the following specs: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor AMD Radeon Graphics NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 96GB (2x48GB) 5600MHz Microsoft Windows 11 Pro ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI And these are pugetbench results for photoshop: Overall - 11195 General score 108 Filter score 117 Thank you 😎

[@segundacuenta726]

Great Build. If you ever wanted hackintosh a 6950XT would be the best gpu possible (since the newer radeon aren't compatible). And perhaps overclocking the ram or getting 6400mhz if money is not a problem. As well as u2 drives like optane, and maybe raid 0 with gen4 drives to get gen5 speeds (for sequential only) at half the cost. And by the way look into PARSEC and Sunshine Moonlight and tailscape to use that beast of PC anywhere with internet with any laptop or tablet and almost no lag at all. Cheers

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

Wish i could have a channel like this.maybe one day i get some help getting better but love ur channel man u are blessed 🙌

[@heyitsjel]

Don't forget the 12900KS can be picked up currently for a relative bargain... narrowing the gap even more with the 13900k/14900k. Not to mention the memory controller on the 12900KS's is usually pretty decent. eg. my 12900KS can do 7200MT CL34 at lower voltages than my 13900K can (limit of that particular kit). I'd say if you're already on a 12700K or 12900K, there's probably little reason for most people to upgrade... solid performing CPUs.

[@godnamedtay]

I just got 12900ks for $236 & 13900k for $373 sold/shipped by Amazon. Incredible deals for these.

[@Fartuch87]

my 12900k can go 7400 cl34 with tachyonz690 but my 7950x3d can run 8000 cl 36 ;d i like both

[@godnamedtay]

@@Fartuch87 I run 7800 36 with 12900KS on z690 unify x. Gigabyte have always been trash imo

[@heyitsjel]

@@Fartuch87 Sounds like you got a very decent 12900K! :)

[@heyitsjel]

@@godnamedtay I paid about 50-60 USD more for the 12900KS here in Aus a month or so ago (local supplier) - still think it was a good deal though!

[@su1ka]

I wish we could have a power draw line for each test as well.

[@Fk8td]

Btw Asrock has a new drive for core ultra. I’m curious if actually works.

[@technoendo]

Ignore the Blender benchmark if you are looking for 3d performance -- Nobody renders on the CPU because an Nvidia GPU is always preferred for being many times faster. Blender favors fast single core CPU performance (IPC) + Nvidia GPU.

[@VFed0seev]

Please test video edit performance per dollar ratio on MacBook Pro m4\m4pro, mac mini m4\m4pro, intel, amd platform.

[@Riyozsu]

Does intel have anything else once Zen 6 gets an NPU and amd finally releases the QuickSync competitor i.e, Smart Access Video?

[@Felale]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[@mraltoid19]

Ok, just started the video, but if I had to guess.....12900k = 285k...it's a bell graph of performance between the generations...

[@Chiparoo-014]

my I9 13900 k works for me it does everything I needed to do until then I am not upgrading no time soon

[@mrk3676]

6:06 don't know why Puget, still using the 285k despite this results

[@ExOhz]

Not intel, but i was wondering what matx motherboard you'd recommend for creators, ik theres a mini itx one thats decent. Its just from asus, and has hive device for audio... which is dumb. Audio should he on motherboard.

[@stevesloan6775]

You should have included the 11th generation, that would have been really interesting.

[@alycynde5237]

I may have to consider the 12th gen then. I'm still running 2nd gen after all this time and it's still beating later gen processors.

[@phatminhphan4121]

Now we need a comparision for the Ryzen 9 : 3000 vs 5000 vs 7000 and 9000 🎉

[@panz1skate]

Never understood why 3D test for CPU is always a rendering test. Nobody uses a low-cores-count CPU for rendering (unless the scene is so big that exceed VRam capability). It should be more interesting testing the viewport responsiveness and time of baking a simulation. There should be a way for standardize these test!

[@ElbahansawiAbdo]

How about the i7s?

[@G4RYWithaFour]

Alder lake was no nice that Intel released it thrice!

[@mahirahmansphotography8117]

would you recommend 14900kf or 9950x for video editing pc?

[@sssooo-ft7hj]

I have two computers with 14900KF and 4090, both of which have encountered blue screens and software crashes. At first, I thought the graphics card was broken, but my friend's 14900K also had the same issue. I strongly recommend against purchasing the 14900

[@mahirahmansphotography8117]

@ thanks! im pretty sure im going with the 9950x and 4070 to super. wanted to get 4080 super but its pretty expensive in Canada

[@sssooo-ft7hj]

@@mahirahmansphotography8117 Maybe you can wait for the release of the 50 series graphics cards? If you can wait a bit longer, I believe the 40 series graphics cards will reach the price you want

[@Phil-D83]

12th gen was awesome. 13th/14th were nice.minus the issues. 15th is a turkey

[@The_Batman-vengance]

Now comparing the 4 generations of amd Ryzen 9 would be something you don't need even to watch 3950x vs 5950x vs 7950x vs 9950x The difference there is worth upgrading the entire platform

[@zbigniewkrajewski7536]

Very good comparison, as always great vid. I use cpu for work and gaming, Intel was always the choice. Using 13th gen i9, no issues after cries over yt, microcode works, 128GB ram for workloads, never had single crash. Tested AMD platform for my usage and sadly its marketing bullsh1t, only for gamies' its ok, but for serious work Intel. Sadly cause would like to see some real competition, not pseudo gaming benchmarks. Keep up good work TechNotice, good tests. Maybe next comparing AMD cpu's from top line?

[@toonnut1]

The 285k is a massive flop. The 13th gen is the best value for money at today's prices

[@hardstylboy]

13th gen have problems 14th also no buy it all

[@toonnut1]

@hardstylboy some have problems not all

[@vampritt]

285k HAVE Igpu PROBLEM too... very buggy. that is why intel got kicked out of NASDAQ and its stock plummet

[@toonnut1]

@vampritt what they should have done is remove the e core's and just gave more p core's and that would've kept them in the race with amd

[@hardstylboy]

@@toonnut1 its a lotery

[@constantinosschinas4503]

It is the software's fault that cannot scale properly, especially in Multicore, not the processor's. The only real test here is Cinebench, which is 70ish percent faster. Not a wow, but still decent. And iGPU is a big wow due to redesign.

[@miguelllkk]

Could you do the same with i7s and core ultra 7?

[@alinioanmoroi1370]

I build my pc in july 2023, 13900k, 64gb ddr5 6000mt, rtx 4090...never had an issue with it but recenlty find a new 12900k sealed from factory on local marketplace for 180 euro and i bought it... just to have a peace of mind if my 13900k start degrade!

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

Intraframe [EXT] means 4k H.265 4:2:2??

[@computerenthusiast402]

So what is the Best Bang for MONEY Motherboard/CPU Combo ?

[@Felale]

Depends on what you are doing. He does recommend 14900k at the end. You can get a motherboard and RAM bundle at microcenter if you have one.

[@dankmemes3153]

the Ultra 7 265k is on sale for $300 at microcenter btw. 100 cheaper than msrp. tho you can get the 12900K for around 270$ish and LGA 1700 motherboards are cheaper

[@Vennux]

i have the 12700k with 32gb ddr4 3600mhz i think if i had ddr5 the performance difference would be small for the x2 money that i would have to spend

[@Fk8td]

I wouldn’t call 14900 a generation. It’s a refresh imo

[@kartikpintu]

define refresh

[@euMMagic]

All your videos are good and informative, except for the promotion of software keys. I understand you earn a monetary benefit out of it, but these sites are not legit and hope an ethical way to your influencing methods. Please do a video comparing the new Intel Core ultra 285k Vs AMD CPUs, on the basis for 3d rendering applications like Blender, C4D etc.❤

[@crzydraze]

Do it from the i7 12700k to 14700k, please

[@foxxrider250r]

13600k here. Still the best value I feel like

[@natetravels5156]

Sooo 12600k still reigns Supreme?

[@godnamedtay]

lol nah

[@paulboyce8537]

You are using UDIMM to 285K when it supports CUDIMM. Using the correct RAM and enabling XMP has 20% if not more performance jump. Misleading review for clickbait. 6400 UDIMM drops to 5600 speed. And power for 285K is 250 not 253.

[@frankwong9486]

More than Skylake to Skylake +++++++ Gen6-gen10 😂

[@policeman5768]

265k test pls 🙏

[@MaryannLynch-z9c]

12900KF (4090) still holding it down.

[@christophermullins7163]

Gaming says "Hi, im 7800x3d" 😂😂😂

[@mumbakayoba3082]

a 12900k is still fine

[@KevinAroni-uz5rl]

12900k? here atlon 2009

[@shanebumpurs]

and I'm watching this on my 7700k

[@StudyWithNika]

but no human on planet earth would run ddr5 ram of 12900K at 4800mhz. You should test all at 6400mhz, 7200 nhz or 8000mhz so that it is fair comparison.

[@heyitsjel]

Agreed. Not sure I've ever read of a 12900k not being able to hit 5600MT minimum. Most will do around the 6000-6600MT mark, with some significantly higher.

[@walllec]

12900ks 5.5ghz upvote here!

[@dadozygaming]

Black Friday is coming up, and I'm tempted to upgrade my i7-6700k. I already have an RTX 3080 TI so I don't need a new graphics card. I also technically don't need a new CPU since my 9 year old CPU is still running strong, but potential upcoming tariffs and war have me worried about supply in 2025. I'm shocked at how well my i7-6700k is doing in late 2024. In mid 2024, I downgraded my PC to a mini PC with Intel i5-8400T with integrated graphics to test its capabilities. I was on that machine for 4 whole months, and I was surprisingly able to work and even play games. I brought my mini PC to work to play games at lunch so I'm still using it.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Do the same test with Apple and AMD, 2021 to 2024. Then talk.

[@kartikpintu]

why?

[@Jaimin088]

Tech Noice

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

10:32 ..... SORRY but there still are ! 13Th & 14Th gen Intel CPU's are only good in a trash bin ! Just F Intel ! AMD Ryzen is just king, and just THE BEST ! Intel is DONE !

[@prussell890]

do you work for AMD? 😂 geez calm down and get back in your pram 😂 I chose the 14700k over the 7800x3d paired with my 4080 super and I dont regret it. X3D are a total rip off. If intel is done, so is gaming. prices will rocket and AMD are no where big enough to keep up with demand. Just look at the 9800x3d situation 😅

[@navpreetsingh8156]

they got nothing on Apple

[@kartikpintu]

apple can't game.

[@chik0240]

It is worth upgrading.... to AMD...

[@AngryChineseWoman]

This video is for creators, not gaming. In this usecase the 285k is worth it in my opinion

[@AlfaPro1337]

AMD has a huge amount of bottlenecking. Enabling XMP/EXPO instantly voids your warranty, thus none of the benchmarks doesn't show stock performance. AMD is significantly slower.

[@policeman5768]

Get the hell out of here amd fanat. Go to your belowed channels like GN, HU etc

[@Riyozsu]

​@@policeman5768you had to pick the 2 most unbiased channels to give as an example

[@seacowDUGONG]

@@Riyozsu the way they shilled for 9800x3d on launch tho1080p kInG ... best performing CPU... (conveniently ignoring 1440 p and 4k loss in 1% lows even versus i7s) because muhhh GPU bottlenacks reeeeee

[@sgredsch]

Photoshop, Lightroom and davinci resolve long gop look a lot like software issues. the 285k is Chart topping in all single threading tests yet in Photoshop it absolutely dives. to me it Looks Like Photoshop is using the e cores over the p cores or whatever it might be. Intel has some fixing to do, but arrowlake has some impressive gains, especially when looking at the igpu. i found that the igpu in my 265k delivers 1/3rd the peformance of a 5700xt in affinity photo. you wouldnt really need an extra GPU with the arrowlake igpu, its really quite powerful.

[@hhhh-lj5gr]

AMD in Idle 100W+ Intel 50W- so easy Decision for Intel for me, and no one is talking about the iGPU and the new H.266 alias VVC Codec (H.266 encode/​decode) ??

[@Riyozsu]

Both are 0w at true idle i.e, turned off. Easy decision for me that AMD wins in real world apps and games.

[@hhhh-lj5gr]

@@Riyozsu maybe in Single Monitor :D but when you are Encoding on the Left Monitor and Play Rust in front of You and viewing a Video on the Right Side, Intel is destroying AMD :D

[@Felale]

@@Riyozsu People who actually work on their computer all day instead of just turn on a game then turn it off will see lower power draw with Intel.

[@vampritt]

dont forget to mention the bug that cause the system to disable the iGPU

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

I thought it has been fixed in the latest bios update?

[@WiFuzzy]

I'm amazed you still have an audience for this stuff. "I test differently". I pick the ram to be out of box settings...helps the new CPUs. But don't worry. I Cut the power to the 13900k and 14900k to slow them down so the 285K can have a head start. Pick one...factory settings or not? But the GPU is faster. No...the old one was that bad. "And with the BIOS update...there shouldn't be any issues with them DEGRADING ANY MORE" IF YOU ADVISE PEOPLE TO BUY INTEL RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST FANBOY. There litterally is no reason. But you still find ways to "adjust" your testing to find a way. 9950X, sorry intel fans. It's the one you want. When the 9950X3D comes out... that will be the one you want. Move on. You can always come back to intel later.

[@darrenhankner5282]

14900k. best bang for the buck