4 INFJs with Pucokie, Susan Storm and Megan Malone | Type Talks E18

4 INFJs discuss topics such as, "what do you bring to the world?", "what makes you feel the most you/energized?", "do you have an inner monologue?" and more! (Discussion begins 2 minutes in!!)
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[@veronicag4593]

INFJ quirks they had that I relate to: -The walls in their house painted white to lessen sensory distraction -lots of pausing to gather the right words while talking -lots of head nodding and mmhmms and yeahs to show they’re listening -they all take turns to talk and make sure no one gets left out -the deep focused stare -encouraging each other -stiff shoulders

[@JoyceMeng22]

YES MY SHOULDERS ARE SO STIFF. So glad you were able to relate, Veronica. ^-^ Love the quirks you named, it hits close to home.

[@na4167]

Nice observations!

[@veronicag4593]

Joyce Meng I totally feel you sister!

[@laurel7135]

The head nodding to show that you're paying attention is REAL

[@Arginne]

Is the trying to minimize sensory distraction a thing because I do that? And I wanted to paint all my walls white too lol.

[@cymbol73]

"FE is a chore because that's not our first function and it can get tiring." Wow. Amazing thought and can certainly relate. Really makes sense.

[@hfortenberry]

I'm an INTJ and I DEFINITELY have a monologue in my head where it's as if I am explaining something to some invisible person or I'm practicing explaining or teaching something to some invisible entity. I don't HEAR it with my ears though. But it's definitely a monologue that can go on for awhile, several minutes. I always think it's strange and odd but it feels totally normal and beneficial to me. I couldn't even begin to stop it. I don't do it deliberately but just find it happening. I figure it is just my Te trying to activate because I live alone so my Te has no-one to talk to so I guess it's just expressing itself through an imaginary conversation. And a lot of times I'll start saying the monologue out loud. It's as if I am literally talking to someone but I'm the only one in the house. I do this almost every day. I find it helps me process information. Usually it happens when I'm trying to explain some concept that I've been learning. Like it's a way to deepen my understanding.

[@voodaii]

I had a similar experience, but ended up making it stop. (I'm an INTJ also btw) When I was younger I noticed it was taking up a lot of time. Once I realized I was explaining something that I already knew, I started to just absorb the understanding instantly and I could move on. I traded some proficiency in communication for some additional time. Maybe someone can relate to this. Or maybe I just killed my conscience and I guess this a warning message. 😈

[@hfortenberry]

@@voodaii YES!! I feel exactly the same way! I totally relate! I almost always recognize that I already know what I'm saying so why waste time repeating it. LOL It's like I'm practicing it to death. So I will often stop myself and move on to something else. But at some level I think it does help me process further. It's just that I don't allow that processing anymore with topics that are not related to one of my goals. Don't want to waste that time.

[@doge2415]

I do the same thing as an INFJ.

[@ENZERYN]

THIS IS COMPLETELY ME. I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE HERE TOO, JUST LIKE I AM IN MY LIFE AND USE MYSELF TO DISCUSS WITH!!

[@ENZERYN]

@@voodaii Maybe I'm on your path. Maybe not. I find it restricting my intuition into words just like how someone tries to explain ther thoughts to someone else and fails, and i hate it. It restricts my main resource. It hinders my spontaneity too. But i think i will not stop it but use it to Command myself, not explain myself lol.

[@nicolerhyne9928]

I feel like I got to sit at the luch table with the cool kids at school. I'm an INFJ so this felt "normal" especially the inner dialog. As a kid I thought EVERYONE experienced this. Thanks.

[@smar4433]

The silliness chat totally resonated with me - I'm my best self when I can be silly

[@mamu7976]

Great video. I've heard a group of INFJs can be really quiet, but you did an awesome job Joyce of giving everyone a chance to speak. 4 proper INFJs. Really impressed at the great listening, the repeated nods, everyone calmly waiting for their turn to speak. You all got the INFJ stare and those deep eyes that look like you are seeing through people and been through a lot. You all seem so similar, yet are completely different at the same time. The patterns of the INFJs really come through though in this video (or from an Ni:Te perspective): -Humble -The INFJ catchphrase 'does that make sense?' -Saying sorry a lot. Perhaps, INFJs apologize too much (or maybe I am just an arrogant INTJ, LOL) -The self doubt (e.g. regarding your possible type) -Modesty (you all seem in awe of each other) -The love of deep topics and philosophical subjects. The discussion was so interesting too! You ladies are like the fantastic 4! Keep up the awesome work!

[@veronicag4593]

Ma Mu and finishing sentences with “stuff like that.” I do that all the time 😭😫 i didn’t realize other INFJs did that too, now I feel better it’s not just me 😂😂😂😂

[@JoyceMeng22]

I love your Te bullet point takeaways, Ma Mu

[@mamu7976]

@Has Goodles Not surprised. Frank James is an INFP. To sweet to be an INFJ and not listening.

[@deriene_rocha]

The part when they talk about things that make them feel alive made me emocional, because I related so much with them, and its so rare to feel like that for me... Like Joyce said "I feel like my life its lost in translation"...

[@MissCherielicious]

That thing Susan said about being "empathic about movies", she just spoke my mind :D! I love all those slow psychological movies that other people find boring, just because I'm able to feel exactly what the characters are feeling, it's almost like I'm becoming them for a moment and it's fascinating. Sometimes I can get too invested though and then I'm feeling down for a few days. But I love it anyway :p

[@meganmalone3512]

This was such a fun conversation! Thanks for inviting all of us to chat, Joyce! Watching this back, I was laughing at all of our serious stares while thinking. The face of Ni, lol.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Haha yes!! I love seeing all of our Ni stares. It was lovely having you on, Megan :) Your insights were amazing.

[@cymbol73]

This was so funny. Oh my gosh! Now I know what a room full of "me's" would be like. Lol.

[@tinahalle3575]

I needed this sooooo much ! I can’t even believe how identical some of our thoughts are on everything from feeling lonely because no one can seem to connect on a deep level to the topics we bring up , to my thoughts on what would make this world a better place, on empathy . Everything , not a thing you guys mentioned wasn’t something I also have felt , thought or experienced. I have just recently been hurt by a friend who rather than engaging me in conversation around a subject I threw out to discuss but instead she projected her own negative feelings about it on to me . I realize now that she just didn’t understand I wanted to dive deep into the topic because I thought it was important. I wasn’t trying to challenge her 😢. Anyway lol , you guys really lifted my spirits . Thank you and I now want to binge watch INFJ’s discussing things lol.

[@kacake]

Yeah it happens, when I want to deep dive to get to the best conclusion about the issue, make everyone involved not miss on something impt valuable to harmony and relationship. it's not often well received or welcomed. It's just brainstorming, we don't take sides we want win-win situation.

[@veronicag4593]

This was so amazing to watch four INFJs interact talking about personality and psychology and things they’re passionate about. This was so cool!!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yay!! I'm so glad you enjoyed watching. :) NFs unite!

[@hfortenberry]

I've also felt that a LOT in my life, Joyce where I tried to have a conversation and it was shut down almost every time (except with my INFJ Mom - but then we'd get off track via Fe/Te differences). It is totally like a barrier. I would be hurt and feel shocked/blindsided and rejected when people would act like "what are you talking about???". Or they'd say "you are too intense" or "stop being so serious and just have fun". Or they'd say I was talking about things that didn't matter. It was painful to be rejected that way because it was a rejection of my SOUL, my identity and I remember telling myself that I would never marry someone who I couldn't be myself with, which meant I may end up alone. Finally I learned that the only consistent way for me to relate to people is through my Te so I just started doing that instead and it helps. I did feel sad for a long time in my twenties about not having that outlet to talk with people who "got" my Ni musings. But finding MBTI has helped. Now I feel like as long as I have a strong NF presence in my life and I have a Te outlet, then I'm good.

[@jesssss12]

I think infjs have this non forceful caring grace that makes them great leaders who can see potential in things and understand people. I truly believe they execute both thinking and feeling at the same time, which makes them very unique. Other types seems very set on one or the other. All of the infjs I know I like, it might be because I am intj.

[@pucokie]

I really enjoyed this experience Joyce! Thank you so much for leading such an insightful and uplifting conversation!!!!! 💗💗💗

[@JoyceMeng22]

Haha :) Thank you so much for being so enjoyable to talk to, I had so much fun interacting with you Emily ^-^!!

[@latteARCH]

That point about internal monologue is amazing. I have it, but I didn't know that wasn't available to everyone. I can also think in pictures if I need to visualize something but it's not the default state. "Words" dominate the headspace almost 100% of the time. Sometimes I even *hum* my internal monologue to myself.

[@ryanhanks6112]

Btw, I like how ya'll take turns chiming in- characteristic INFJ courtesy.

[@JoyceMeng22]

You have a keen eye for noticing that! So true

[@alowlypawn]

I’m an ISTP and I definitely speak in an internal monologue. It sounds exactly like I would speak externally, but it’s even more true to myself.

[@precious3041]

My comment is so late but I'm so happy that I came across this video. I related a lot with Emily on having an internal dialogue. The internal voice for me is usually most vocal when I am stressed which is most of the time in the NI-TI loop. I'm really glad that there are other INFJ's that can relate to having an internal voice.

[@ec8335]

I'm not an INFJ (at least I don't think so), but I just love hearing INFJs talk -- so deep, insightful, and idealistic. If I could thumbs up this video 10 times, I would.

[@JoyceMeng22]

You are sweeter than molasses honey, thank you! 😊

[@WillRobPC]

I can’t put into words how much this video means to me. Thankyou so much

[@claytonia1586]

This is one of my favourite videos of all time. Thank you so much Joyce, I'm learning so much from your output and about myself too. I was just wishing the whole time that I was having the conversation with you all. I related to every single thing. P.S. I have an inner dialogue and just assumed that's what thoughts were for everyone. I'm so shocked to hear that there are other ways of thinking. I honestly thought that was what thinking was. I definitely see visuals too but mostly accompanied by the voice. Such fascinating stuff. Would love another round of this!

[@grumpyschnauzer]

The internal monologue is my own but if someone is speaking I attach images or an experiential video. This often results in laughing at a joke before the person reaches the punchline because I am imagining the scene. I talk myself through stress or to find peace. I didn’t always hear it but after some major stressors I adopted this to speak affirmations to myself in my mind. I also appreciate my inner monologue because I like to use it to check that my thoughts are clear and my own. My idealized world... one with no pain and one focused on humane values. I loved that book Nonviolent Communication. The way Marshall speaks in videos though remind me of myself and how I speak when I’m annoyed with someone trying to give them advice 😆 I don’t like standardized education either but I don’t believe that people who haven’t been able to master higher education skills and knowledge should pass either. I’d like a surgeon or attorney to have applicable skills operating in good faith that they can actually help me. I did recently tell my professor, “It’s interesting how school encourages quiet students to speak up and participate for a grade but no one is encouraging extroverts to quiet down and participate less.”

[@critter_paws]

"To me it's not esoteric it's the clearest thing ever" Joyce 1000000%

[@thatinfjgirl]

Completely agree with all of your visions of an ideal world! This is why personal development is so important. The more people are able to see and accept the value that is already within them, the less inclined they would be to de-value others and the more tolerant they could be with those that seem like "other" (which is just an illusion anyway). This should definitely be a series, Joyce! :)

[@JoyceMeng22]

I love your NF idealism and thoughts on humanity. I completely agree!! I'll make it into a series one day because this is something I'm really passionate about as well. Thank you for understanding my NF dreams of a better world, that infjgirl.

[@JoyWoodwardMusic]

Thank you for this video. I just binge watched Intp, Infp and now Infj. Four years of constantly reevaluating myself and you have made me so happy because NOW finally, again, I have my answer. - an infj ( and not an infp)

[@TreasureSeasons]

Awww this was so moving, I really loved witnessing you all openly sharing and sincerely listening.

[@JoyceMeng22]

That's heart warming to know. Glad you enjoyed it! =]

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

Liza

[@darlamerrill8052]

I was 12 also when I checked out a big white book of Sigmund Freuds before I knew about Jung and came home an plopped it down on the coffee table and from there on out I've always sought that kind of knowledge and more and more knowledge. 😀

[@twistedsunshine3276]

I can really relate on how Emily speaks LOL The " i dunno " and "If that make sense" And all the pause and all the hanging words in surface to a full stop. I hope you guys make another video like this! I can watch all of you speak for 5 hours!. Thank you Joyce for a good job! Namaste. 😍💜

[@JoyceMeng22]

I'm happy you enjoyed watching, twisted sunshine. 💗 "if that makes sense" is my tagline too. :)

[@twistedsunshine3276]

Yeah i observe that in most INFJ i met here online. Some always say things like that. Can you make a vid with all 4 of you even just once a week? We INFJ would be looking forward to it for sure. Sorry if i sound directing though just a suggestion cause i think every INFJ would like it. 😍😁

[@lsilverman3310]

ENFJs usually have *major* internal verbal monologues. Witty, often snarky, almost always people-centered, clarity that cuts to the core, and funny as all get out. They don't often say it, it all depends on who is around them and how they are reading their social context in the moment.

[@hfortenberry]

Oh I love NVC, Joyce. I so wish more people understood it or had even heard of it. It's so important for a healthy society.

[@shaunbeswarick7952]

Susan, what a lovely thought about innocence in children. What you shared came from a deep place and for a few hours after I listened, I've been near tears. I know it was born out of your own suffering and experience and I felt it all. God bless you for that. Thanks too to all of you for an interesting post! I wish I had a bunch of INFJ friends in real life who I could chat with over coffee ..gosh, I'd probably live there :) But Risk...eek...try playing it with an INTJ...he literally moved my pieces for me .....hehehe....:)

[@lishayost144]

Joyce, I've been thinking... You, Frank James and INFJinxed should do a collab together! It would be bomb. All 3 of you are INFJs, but you're all different so I think it would be a very interesting video whatever you all decided to do.

[@Annie_n_the_oldGypsy]

And Clay Arnell.

[@6jefferson]

I can understand of Ni loneliness. I kind of get used to it, or often keep Ni comments to myself. Thank God for KZbin!!

[@leogrrrl5876]

Loved the visions for an ideal world! I also use the phrase "Does that make sense," have interests along the typical INFJ lines of psychology, etc & very much relate to what Emily said about typology being very useful growing up in order to find yourself reflected somewhere (& better understand others).

[@thatinfjgirl]

YES. This conversation had me feeling energized! Joyce, what you said at the 29- 31 minute mark is really spot on about existence and loneliness. I think it's reminiscent of mirroring in psychology. When a baby isn't mirrored, it doesn't get a firm sense of self and won't feel understood. Your thoughts resonated with me and just- thank you.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yesss - intuitives don't get their thoughts mirrored back to them (because 75%-60% of the population are sensors) so they're at a higher risk of growing up without a firm sense of self. Thank you for understanding my POV, that infjgirl. :) You really helped 'mirror' my thought process back to me and that was incredibly reassuring.

[@thatinfjgirl]

@@JoyceMeng22 😁

[@NavesNiche]

That was such a good video, it's amazing that there are other people with similar experiences that I can relate to to such an extent, thank you for that. Whether or not you hear a mental voice or not is such an interesting topic. Personally I rarely think to myself verbally, and when I output my thoughts my brain automatically converts the intuitional frequency or concept into verbal form. Very interesting topic this.

[@hfortenberry]

When Susan was talking about her ideal world and she mentioned what is happening in the political discourse, what she's referring to is called Splitting (also black and white thinking or all or none thinking). People who have fear surrounding listening to views different from their own will try to use aggressive language or black and white language to force your words into a very simplistic meaning. They put words in your mouth or twist your meaning and it's super frustrating. Like you will say "I believe diversity is beneficial" and they'll say "So you like criminals coming here?!" They equate things that are not necessarily correlated because they are unable to get the nuance in your statement. They NEED to emotionally connect (or keep apart) those two different thoughts because otherwise their worldview would feel as if it is being threatened, even though it's not. Splitting is actually a symptom of mental illness such as narcissism but it happens in less severity in a lot of people.

[@Lilfairyxo]

100 times yes!!! People lack nuance and it bugs me so much! What you said is exactly what I think but don't say. I've never heard of splitting though so you taught me something new!

[@Ayesha_F]

100 percent relate to what Susan said about respecting and learning from children, and to have access to our own innocence. Enjoyed listening to this panel so much ❤ Also so cool to listen more of Joyce's thoughts. So much relate!

[@noturbo]

When i feel safe i can let the inner child out and i feel free but there always seems to be some human who is threatened by the kid and shuts the kid down then i run away and hide for how long life is hard when the truth is the only way.. INFJ Male

[@darlamerrill8052]

Every single 1 of u young ladys are so highly intelligent ,it's really obvious

[@aw123336]

Loved this video and seeing INFJ interact with one another. I'm an INFJ also Susan took the thoughts out of my mind when she was talking about how we find it difficult to cultivate deep, mutual relationships with people where we can fully be ourselves. I completely related so much to everything in this video.

[@JoyceMeng22]

I'm glad you were able to relate to Susan :)! Thank you for watching @aw123336 - I hope you are able to find that mutual relationship you are looking for one day.

[@7737rosegarden]

Fellow INFJ here. I love loved hearing all of you sharing your hearts and thoughts! Thank you! Esp enjoyed your ideal worlds.... sounds like my ideals, too. I go there in my head when the world feels too harsh and violent. I end up inspired to create my ideal world within my circle of influence. ❤️ It's amazing to hear familiar minds and not feel so alone.

[@JoyceMeng22]

​❤️​🧡​💛​💚 Nice to hear that you were able to feel at home from watching this, Rose Garden 😊

[@noturbo]

only one thing that really sets me off is when someone calls me a lair when its the truth and they want to change the truth to make themselves feel better . The facts dont care how you feel about them.

[@alexadellastella5247]

Great video! thanks!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Glad you liked it!

[@darlamerrill8052]

Yes, I do the same thing because I live alone so those conversations where I'm teaching someone or working something out or dealing with my anger , I wonder sometimes what someone walking by might think like, " who's she talking to, haha.

[@thissunchild]

I love these type talks😃

[@ENFPerspectives]

@34:14 totally feeling you here Joyce! I want to know your thoughts , not scripted thoughts that you read ... someone else had. That sounds so vague saying it but in the context at the time, it’s so interesting when it actually happens. INFJ are a little odd ball but that’s what I really love about them! They’re brave enough to be completely vulnerable no matter how that looks and it is one of the qualities I admire about them the Most! It is simply beautiful!!! I’m not saying INFJ are perfect. I have known some long enough but they are real and true (or greatly desire to be) and that resonates deeply with me. Hugs 🤗

[@sanderp9768]

An ideal world for me is one where everyone tries to connect more with each other. I would often go outside to have a cup of coffee by myself and hear someone dealing with a problem and it pains me that I can't just come up to them and help them in some way... I wish people could sit down at a table without knowing each other prior to that and be able to hold wholesome conversations as if they were family. I imagine an ideal world where everyone puts in equal amounts of effort to better humanity as a whole, where everyone is happy to help each other in some way, where I do my job not because I'm expecting a paycheck but because I simply *can* help someone with the knowledge and power that I have, and everyone else does the same with progress within society as their goal in life. In this ideal world, people would try to understand each other more and nobody would ever try to diminish another's free will or force themselves on someone for the sake of their own monetary pleasure...

[@TheLeftCulprit]

I imagine something similar. Maybe we'll get there one day.

[@jimram295]

Hi Emily, my thought patterns range from a voice in my head, talking with it, pictures & videos running through my head, and when God gives me an idea, the whole complete idea is there and I understand it. I wish that I could draw the many things that have been placed there. Be Blessed!

[@jimram295]

Thanks guys for creating this video. It’s refreshing to know that there are others that understand what I go through daily. It is so hard to find infj’s to chat with. I do relate with all that is expressed here. For the longest time I always felt lost and not important. Once I discovered & started using mbti tools, at least I knew that I’m not crazy. Just me, the way God created me!!!

[@jessenceq3250]

I think we should start an INFJ club. And have small groups to open up and talk just like this. I quite enjoyed this. I love what you're adding to this community, Joyce! Also, you all inspire me. Maybe one day I'll get certified or apply my knowledge better as I feel like an endless archive of key points and insights about MBTI types and thejr dynamics. Also, I've watched Pucockie for years so what a treat. And also, "Megan Malone, Susan Storm" are these like stage names?! Haha so cool.

[@mOnika-pt6vk]

There are groups on Facebook for various MBTI types. So are able to interact with like minded individuals, but also with those who want to learn more about INFJs. A group filled with only INFJs would be fascinating. ❤

[@jessenceq3250]

@@mOnika-pt6vk Yep, I'm a part of many! Yet there is something much more effective and genuine with this video. People don't really initiate/follow through with group video chats on those groups. I feel like there's a lot of potential that has yet to be realized with good organization and intention 😊

[@iraklibasiladze83]

When Megan said small thing about Religions being one and the same in their core, with one start - different pathways - and same end, that made me spill my coffee, since it is exactly what I say in those words hehe 😅 Its like a lantern in the dark that guides you to clear path. Kinda relate to many aspects you girls talked about and some stuff I viewed bit differently! Deffinetly great video.

[@l0I0I0I0]

After listening, I think I would feel most comfortable chatting with Susan. It's just my I tuitive sense. However your all great! Pucokie, well yes I have complete conversations talking with others and responding. I also design invent things and change things as I go and can see the whole thing in my head and determine if they will work or not or modify on the fly all in my head. Saves slot of time designing.

[@hfortenberry]

Yeah totally about the ISFJ vs INFJ!! For a long time I wasn't sure if my Mom was ISFJ or INFJ just based off reading the type descriptions. Then I discovered the cognitive functions and it was a no brainer after that and I knew for sure that she was an INFJ. I wish I'd discovered the functions while she was still alive. I feel like I could have bonded with her more if I had known. 😢

[@occupiedaustralia9952]

Hi Joyce , I'm an INFJ as well and I was on the globe lie discord server and out of the 12 core members of the group, 7 of us were INFJ's , it was quite remarkable , I guess the reason we were drawn to that forum flat earth and looking for truth would of made the odds a little less, however we were all men so that would make the odds even more remarkable I guess. It was very interesting, I really related to what you ladies were saying . When you were discussing the ideal world, Susan Storm nailed it children should absolutely be nourished and their gifts explored , there is nothing more important than children, and I think a mark of progress or scale of how well a civilisation are doing is when an old man would ask a childs advice or view of something that was of value to all people , I also think one of the biggest tragedies is the wasted potential of children and not through any fault of their own . Thank you Joyce I really found your video insightful and it was fun too , much love from Australia .

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yes! It's so important to nourish the potential of the children on the earth. They are the future. :) Happy you liked the video 💙

[@JureRepinc]

Great listen, feels like home :) And it reminded me it has been waaaay too long since I've played Settlers and Risk and other board games with friends. These days it is mostly Paradox grand strategy games like Stellaris, and Europa Universalis.

[@JoyceMeng22]

"Feels like home" is the best type of compliment so thank you!! :) yes, I'm going to get back into playing Risk and other board games once I'm able. Those other grand strategy games sound fun too.

[@ENFPerspectives]

Susan @45:11. Beautiful ☺️ ☺️. I respected and listened to my children and others would say I let them disrespect me. No no no. I was listening for “their” thoughts!!! 😭. We may end up disagreeing and me make the final judgment call but they are allowed to think and to feel. I have been wrong so often and my children helped me see that. Love this discussion.

[@thissunchild]

Pucokie's deadpan facial expression cracks me up😅 She's got that stereotypical INFJ 'on-another-planet-in-another-world' look. And the way her face lights up like a Christmas tree regarding strategy bordgames😃🙏🏾 I have an internal monologue going on. I hear my own voice conversing with me🤷🏾‍♀️ I'm INTJ, tho (I think 🤔)...

[@Alpffine]

Their stares pierce my soul.

[@DoomLegion83]

58:40 how the actual fuck can you be so nice and connecting. it's beyond me. i feel that but i cant find the words. how do you infs do that????? - intj

[@farzanarimi2763]

My first thought was that these INFJ-females are such heart-melting, doll-like beauties, compared to my dear INTJ-female fellows.

[@l0I0I0I0]

Thank you! I'm learning a lot from your videos. Makes the other YT vid seem shallow. Am I an INFJ? I took the test online with truity and MBTI. Extravert was in the middle. I guess the diagnoses lol could be off on type but all categories except introvert extravert seemed to be spot on but idk? After testing 3 or 4 times once I did test extravert but it was during a time when I was forced to take a sales position which I hated.

[@hfortenberry]

Oh my goodness, they know don't they and they're trying to get her to see it? Guess I'm not the only one thinking it. Or else I am way off with my INTJ trickster Fe. Idk. But Pukokie really reminds me of myself when I was younger. I also felt really misunderstood most of my life by people (except for my INFJ Mom). On a different note, I love Emily's coffee mug!

[@ENFPerspectives]

Yaaaaaa, my fav type ❤️

[@bolang6921]

This was soothing to hear 4 INFJ's. Thanks for the video Joyce! I would enjoy seeing another one with 4 very mature (middle-aged, over 45) INFJs. Would that be possible?

[@JoyceMeng22]

I'll make it happen one day, Bo Lang. 🙂

[@ac-jn1iq]

I only have an internal monologue when I’m extremely stressed and overthinking. Most of my thoughts don’t have words. They have pictures.

[@TheBittenBullet]

I think both intuitive functions are "big picture". But more specifically, Ne is WIDE or BROAD picture, and Ni is LONG or HIGH picture. It sounds a little weird, but it seems to keep with the metaphors while drawing an accurate distinction between the two. I worry that calling Ni BIG picture will confuse people because people commonly associate that phrase with a broad spectrum of details or possibilities.

[@-HiddenInPlainSight-]

I always keep coming back to that i am a INFJ male. I always have this detached third perspective view of things. And always seem know what would improve people to make them better. Also relate to the "baiting" as i am often putting out these "tests" seeing what level i can connect with someone at...often settling. And left somewhat disappointed. I have came to conclusion that you can only meet people where they have met themselves.

[@chossenone9508]

True. that's why we should speak in wise short words

[@TheLeftCulprit]

"I have come to the conclusion that you can only meet people where they have met themselves" - That's actually really deep. Some Aristotle shit right there.

[@ENFPerspectives]

@44:00 🥲😭. Beautifully stated ❤️❤️❤️ Joyce. Keeping respect for others while still having opposing views. @Joyce Meng: Also what you said earlier about how fascinating that people can read the questions on the MBTI diversely, and that we all have our flesh suits but brains process differently 🧠 🙌🙌. (God is so Awesome!) So what I did was take the test (actual MBTI administered test) and then have an ENTP, INFP & INFJ adult children also take it, as they saw me. They were so sweet to do it. So, I am an ENFP 5w4. The ENTP saw me as a ENFJ, the ISFP saw me as an ESFP and the INFJ saw me as an ENFP (I think, it’s been awhile). I thought that was a fascinating result based on the other person’s perception.

[@m2pozad]

I don't sense that I'm in some default mode trying to make people feel good. As far as I can tell they tend to be doing the outward version of feel good well enough. It's a vocal minority who are claiming that life is an endless struggle to connect. Then there is the whole thing about life actually being so much more than just human interactions with each other. The fact that we are here at all is such a mind-blowing experience. Human connection, while sweet, is just a slice of the whole. Carry-on...

[@brain0nfire]

Btw that thing about not listening internal monologue It's called aphantasia.

[@JoyceMeng22]

that's helpful to know! :) tnx Sem

[@elnara1]

pucokie has socionics functions display in the background :D

[@DanBurns89]

Four intelligent women ^^^^

[@JoyceMeng22]

Haha, thank you Dan! That means a lot coming from an intelligent one like yourself.

[@thewisestguy1]

12:10 omg exactly how i feel right now

[@yoshiperspectives4880]

By audible internal monologue, do you mean a monologue you can hear just like with your ears, or just that your thought is in word form like your talking in your head? Like in a way you hear it audibly but without the vibration that actual sound makes? If the latter, i have that. It's like i'm actually talking in my head and i can hear my voice but without the actual vibration of auditory sound. Is that what you mean by monologue or is it actually auditory sound exactly the same way you hear with your ears?

[@SarahAlAmeri]

I would love to be on a call with other INFJs

[@ac-jn1iq]

It’s weird bc birth my isfp and entj ex’s said I didn’t feel emotions, and I didn’t understand what they meant. I thought something was wrong with me for the longest time because I use Ni-ti when explaining emotions to people , and for most people, this feels odd to them like I’m cold or something. When I’m really not, and I care so deeply.

[@2trntbls469]

Wow.

[@joiamed8544]

I guess meta is after, like metadata

[@menageriegardenshoppe]

My Ti and Fe are like 2 people in my brain 🤔😁😎 INFJ

[@wanke5878]

You guys look beautiful 😍

[@hfortenberry]

Hmmm, I wonder if pukokie might be an INTJ? I'm not seeing the Fe. And she's totally got the INTJ resting B face. I'm an INTJ and I have that face too - so it's not an insult. 🙂 I really like her and watch her channel and have often wondered about this. Seeing her next to 3 other INFJs you can see the contrast more.

[@eyniit297]

Yes!! I think that she is almost intimidating. While Megan and Susan mirror the emotions of Joyce, always smiling together, pucokie remains neutral or with an "angry face". No FE? And It seems like when the others are talking subjectively, she seeks validation bringing past experiences of her. Very interesting to analyze.

[@hfortenberry]

@@eyniit297 Agreed, very interesting. She almost seems to feel a little out of place too?

[@Enigma96969]

INTJ-A here and the smiles these girls have seem very attractive to me, funny how being a opposite in one trait can cause attraction... at least for me I guess lol. With my wife she’s extremely emotional in the way she acts and thinks, also she’s extroverted this could be why I’m attracted to her being my opposite.

[@robertlonn6128]

Fantastic video! I really enjoyed watching, listening and feeling you all talking about your Journeys and stories. Your ideal worlds, thoughts and experiences. Lovely! 🙏 Definitely Will check out your works more in detail! 😄 Your Utopian World that part about learning in diffrent ways for diffrent personalities I belive that or at least similar is being built for Entrepreneurs today by Roger James Hamilton at GeniusU home page! A thought that appeared while listening. However not at a child level more for adults thou belive it is a Beginning to teach / learn other people to see each others Geniuses. Really looking forward to see and be a part of that development. Am I the only Viewer happly child like waving and saying byebye at the end also? 😂

[@JoyceMeng22]

That's the most wholesome thing ever, to wave hi and good bye with us. :) I love that. Roger James seems interesting! I'll check him out one day.

[@PixieGee2838]

‘It can feel like my existence is lost in translation’ - Joyce ♥️🎯

[@aniokay]

It's curious, because I think that war stems from peoples trauma. Not so much from non-communication. But I guess those 2 things might be sides of the same coin.

[@menageriegardenshoppe]

I have Internal Monologue. INFJ

[@NicStride]

INFJaaaay

[@ryanhanks6112]

Hello- I'm an amateur accent guesser...@Joyce Meng- are you Canadian? I notice a slight Canadian accent.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yes, I am Canadian 🙂. Spot on guess!

[@kababudas4157]

Megan malone said about dominant function ( INFJ and INTJ ) ,in short Ni means information gathering process that focuses on patterns, perspectives, hidden meanings and future implications , but here 4 factors ? Why ? Because women and their normal woman character , ( only for observation )

[@sathyath84]

That last 5 minutes of Fe... Very interesting trait unique to INFJs.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Haha. Fe compliments for days! 🙂

[@sathyath84]

@@JoyceMeng22 yes. It just feels very foreign for INTJ... :D

[@April18265]

I want to be friends with you guys so bad!!

[@japanesereadingandwriting]

👍

[@charlielondon722]

Coolest, names ladys loving my infj, awakening keep crushing girls😇🙏❤️

[@johnknight9150]

Is a nervous, self-deprecating laugh common to INFJs? I notice Frank James and Joyce Meng do it a lot. [edit]: Is it just me, or does Emily (pucokie) comes across as INTJ in her physicality, tone, and systematising approach?

[@coinlecturedesammy]

I believe Emily is an INTJ too. She was officially typed Ni-Te by CT (Cognitive Type)

[@celiasleigh2805]

What's a good way to get an accurate type? I have thought I was like 5 different types at different points. I was thinking I was an ENFP most recently but then I did a cognitive functions test and it said based on my results I'm most likely an INFJ and after reading some descriptions about that I can definitely relate to a lot of that too. But they're completely opposite so I'm wondering if maybe I was thinking ENFP because it's what I want to be more than what I actually am. But relate more to ENFP so also maybe I'm just damaged and so test backwards. This is sort of driving me crazy because I want to interact in online communities but don't want people seeing stuff I say and thinking that's a specific types behaviour when it's actually a different types. HELP!!!

[@TheLeftCulprit]

Look up cognitive functions. Look around for as many descriptions as you can and see which ones sound like ways you think/interact with the world. Then look up the function stacks. Each type has a different stack and the stack determines which funtions you prefer over others. So INFJ is Ni-Fe-Ti-Se. ENFP is Ne-Fi-Te-Si i *think*. You can relate to multiple types but there should be one you see yourself in the most.

[@coinlecturedesammy]

Check out Aimee Y. She will give you a clearer picture and is excellent at typing others.

[@noturbo]

society dosnt like my insides 😥

[@Gio-sx7kt]

At around 41:00. People say Hitler was INFJ and I don't agree with that typing. I think he was more ISTJ, based in my perspective of his talents and personal motivations, but people just say he was unhealthy. I just don't think that's enough to justify an INFJ typing. I just think what they base his typing on was just the propaganda being used at the time and shouldn't be aligned with being attributed to his type as he knew it was just a propaganda tool to motivate the pubic.

[@llDeezNutsll]

Infj males are actually rare fr, iguess. Yay me iguess haha

[@RichardAlsenz]

Joyce, you need to contact me. I did an experiment that will be of great interest to you. I found out later that Maslow was involved in a very closely related experiment at the time of his death. His paper was not published because he passed while doing the experiment. You need my information I gained from Andrew Kay his friend who was implementing it. I will share that information with you.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Sure! Email me at [e-mail] :)

[@timefortee]

You won't share your findings anywhere??

[@RichardAlsenz]

@@timefortee, Of course, I will. Which findings are you referring to. You're not talking about the $20 bill I found in downtown LA 40 years ago, are YOU:?)

[@timefortee]

@@RichardAlsenz Ah funny that. I was under the illusion that the info you were offering one person and that could potentially intrigue some others (like me) would also be accessible to commoners some day.

[@RichardAlsenz]

@@timefortee I am going to explore this with Clay. There must be a way to share this tale with others so that it reaches a needy audience. stay tuned, thanks very much for inquiring:?)