All sounds good in their own way, but I think Shreddage Hydra sounds overall the best. Might come down to which one's workflow suits you the best.
@v47k1t44r Жыл бұрын
Are we just not gonna talk about how fucking cool that track is?
@punyhuman54053 жыл бұрын
Hellrazer is insanely good compared to the other ample products.
@thaimcgrathmusic3 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion I think the Odin wins, but Hydra could also win by preference. I think Odin has a bit better mid range and realism!
@zehl3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the sustain on Odin is not nearly long enough for me. Huge bummer as the tone is decent
@kociol213 жыл бұрын
1. Hydra (and by far) 2. Hellraiser 3. Odin (super unnatural picking sounds) 5. Real Eight (very fake sound, too few round robins)
@RafitaPapita20993 жыл бұрын
It's a close call between the Hydra & Odin - I'd say Hydra just edges it out but that's based on my personal stylistic preferences. Sick comparison vid!
@berserker2551 Жыл бұрын
All are nice but my favorite are Hydra and Odín
@ezzmix3 жыл бұрын
lacked to include in the analysis heavier7strings, which I also consider very good
@visij3 жыл бұрын
Hydra is most definitely my favorite. a very well-made vst
@theinfinate3 жыл бұрын
2:13 Hydra 2:21 AMH AMH sounds more mechanical but hydra sounds like sloppy palm muting. Why is this, is it because the midi data is different? I noticed with AMH as I bought it the other day, it sounds more human when you change the velocity slightly on all midi strikes with repetitive palm mutes like this
@Ilike2run4fun3 жыл бұрын
I have all 4 of these and prefer Hydra, just wish Hydra was setup for Double Drop C. But these are all pretty solid guitar VST's!
@crysalistwo1893 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I was wondering which one to invest in. I’m falling in love with Odin and Shreddage! I’ll pick them up thanks to this video. Thanks you so much!
@JammyGuitar3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison, we've just added a link to it in our latest vid. Odin II and Hydra do sound the most realistic, which can't be said about RealEight, sadly :(
@Fr33Candy3 жыл бұрын
Hydra and hellrazer absolute killer
@TheRealRxdxctxd3 жыл бұрын
The only big issue that I see with the Shreddage Hydra is that it is not equipped to tune any lower than Drop E. Other than that, the Hydra is a great VST. The Musiclab RealEight doesn't perform well when regarding middle frequencies, so that may be an issue. I do love the simplicity of its setup though. The Solemn Tones Odin plugin, in my opinion, is better for demo mixes. It's tone is good, but it's sound isn't as natural as the other guitars demoed in this song. Overall, I favor the Ample Metal Hellrazer over the other guitars. That's just my opinion though.
@bluedespairvk6 ай бұрын
You can resolve this with a Pitch Shifter (I make it)
@bluedespairvk6 ай бұрын
You can resolve this with a Pitch Shifter (I make it)
@irodallah2 жыл бұрын
Odin 2 has perfect sound.
@dorosch96502 жыл бұрын
One of the best comparison i've ever heard! Nice!
@omnilocal3 жыл бұрын
I think the Hydra slightly edges out the Hellraiser for me
@thomasjorennielsen2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video! Been meaning to grab a solid all around metal guitar solution for scoring. I like how hydra handles the stops and articulations the best, sounds the realest to me. Each has a unique sound, I can see why one might pull from one library for one progression or motif and from another.I’m assuming you write a lot in this style so I trust these 4 VSTis are all stellar! I think I’ll do some more research on hydra but all around really awesome video!!! Straight to point no bs love it! Thank you for making this, and sick track!!!!!!
@visceractor35143 жыл бұрын
Awesome job, perfectly synchronized!
@JohnPhilip_Halaquist3 жыл бұрын
Great song! Can't wait to hear more.
@soekanta3 жыл бұрын
I think too bright and too mechanical except the odin. Heavier 7 strings is perfect for solos btw
@eurekaness3 жыл бұрын
Been on the hunt for a metal guitar VST. Got Neural stuff for amps/cabs/mics. Real 8 sounds fake. Odin is too muddy. It's between the Hydra and Hellraiser...but...I really don't like having to need Kontakt for the Hydra(even though it works with the free Kontakt Player). I had Higher 7 Strings in mind...but dunno. Gotta keep in mind that the not so popular ones/less experience with guitars plays a factor in support/longevity/updates/etc. The chugs are better with Hellraiser vs. Hydra. Real 8 even beat the Hydra and Odin with the chugs. Using Yamaha HS8(pair) with HS8S connected to an Apollo Twin X Quad in a sound treated room. So far, the Hellraiser is the best overall. Holy shiitake mushrooms does the Hellraiser sound baller when it comes in at 2:53.
@snesmocha2 жыл бұрын
I have everything here, can confidently say wasted my money on Odin and real eight, yeah sure hellrazer sounds good here but it’s a fuckint pain to mix and I do not recommend whole hardedly, the built in presets and amps are god awful and there are no seperate samples for double tracking so you’re relying on sample offset for dt
@N00b_slayer Жыл бұрын
surprised heavier 7 strings isn't here, that shit is insanely good
@duxgarnifex36787 ай бұрын
This is some great sounding shred for composition. As a keyboard player, communicating the sound with the guitar player... this is the way. #metalgasm
@FogHazard3 жыл бұрын
Been using RealEight for a few years, but it started acting up recently. Coincidentally, the Hellrazer was on sale. Experimenting with it now and loving it.
@PlankManAndBigOwl2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT!!!! F..king kicks ass!!!!! Very well done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@robbeaerts43833 жыл бұрын
The Odin sounds best IMO, hellrazer in second place. The other two don't sound as realistic IMO.
@Valouuu773 жыл бұрын
You are my favorite KZbinr... please van you do a video when you programme the vst ? There is one thing i want to know: sometimes you take two différent guitares from realheight(for exemple), and the sound is stereo. whereas me when I do that the sound stays in the center. Therefor I use double tracking but the inconvenience is that the two guitars are not independent of each other. Do you have any advice? Keep up the good work you're awesome 😱
@MrMattyb13132 жыл бұрын
Groovy song and extremely informative Thanks🤘🏼
@Mark_N3 жыл бұрын
Hydra sound the best I think. Awesome comparison, just what I needed. Only missed the Orange Tree Samples Dracus.
@Tremendouz3 жыл бұрын
I had Dracus but it just doesn't have enough round robins for metal so I never used it.
@snesmocha3 жыл бұрын
@@Tremendouz only has 2 round robins…. Virtually unusable for anything tbh
@DanielKitchka5 ай бұрын
All sound great! but the Hydra sounds more realistic imo
@astickman70543 жыл бұрын
technology has advanced but in the end real guitar will always win i like the Hydra and Odin guitar tone but which one is more versatile? and which one has better palm mutes?
@MegaShredd3 жыл бұрын
@@developdevicestudio Agreed. Hydra has two pickups sampled and generally has more work done to allow easier programming for non-metal stuff.
@Zharioo263 жыл бұрын
I second this, Hydra definitely has better palm mutes, tested myself
@v47k1t44r Жыл бұрын
Can we get this on Spotify PLEEEEAAASE
@normannutbar4246 ай бұрын
Hellrazer was by far the most realistic staccato. Hydra was a beautiful tone.
@berserker25512 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video!!!
@genomod17093 жыл бұрын
have you heard about the "cabal8" guitar library?
@redness1824 Жыл бұрын
I'd say Hellrazer first,then Hydra.Super close though.👍
@gianna7573 жыл бұрын
I neeeeded this thank you
@artcolldrum3 жыл бұрын
Ample hellrazer for me.
@avoider7072 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the demo track, i love it so much
@jomamastool3 жыл бұрын
I think the ample sounds is the best by a long shot. All of the other ones pick attacks are super annoying
@FeydTheRonin3 жыл бұрын
Odin seemed to struggle with really chugging. Hydra and Real8 were slamming it.
@snesmocha3 жыл бұрын
Sadly Odin only has 4 or 3 round robins from testing and extracting the samples
@seanrosendo56722 жыл бұрын
Which one sounded the realest?
@asepsundanese2 жыл бұрын
the winner is ample metal
@brettjones83372 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a preference out of these 4 products? I'm leaning towards Odin purely for the simple GUI but its hard to make a decision with no trials available.
@cjmllvv Жыл бұрын
Hell raiser for chords hydra is better for tremolo and pinch harmonics probably. Tough to choose between hell raiser would be better in most situations but having weak tremolo sounds is a problem
@user-dn5fs9vn1u4 ай бұрын
Odin the best
@ghostzzap2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Odin II is the most authentic.
@alyctro81583 жыл бұрын
I think Odin killed it, and you didn't turn off the crank button
@bluedespairvk6 ай бұрын
I use Hydra and Odin 👺
@AnsikBEAT Жыл бұрын
압도적으로 hydra!!!!
@LukeWatts853 жыл бұрын
RealEight almost sounds slightly out of tune. Seems higher than everything else by a half step. Something off with it. The Odin definitely has more low end than Shreddage but RealEight and Hellrazor should be comparable and the RealEight sounded terrible here. Too much high end, but I'm nearly certain it sounds out of tune too. Is it playing a different riff to everything else in the one-to-one comparison?
@benjaminbovay103 жыл бұрын
Aside from the Fortin Cali Suit applied on top of guitars VSTs, what are the exact presets you used with Ample HellRazer ?
@schiribeats Жыл бұрын
Help i don't have the pickup option waht did i do wrong ?
@62restroom796 ай бұрын
damn i wanna play it with real guitar
@NateRange2 жыл бұрын
Tell me, how much ram do you need to run all four of these?
@Justwantpeacelove2 жыл бұрын
Odin Sounds more better for metal
@hecksaltman Жыл бұрын
What amp modeler are you using?
@praaneshs20663 жыл бұрын
Can't get over RealEight's bad sound :(
@Yeriku Жыл бұрын
What drums were used in this demo?
@FunkZzzz2 жыл бұрын
I prefer (03.) Ample Metal Hellrazer III , (02.) RealEight 4 is bad (very fake sound).
@erosnunez42563 жыл бұрын
Why can’t I get Hydra to sound like that. The strumming sounds so damn fake for me. No round robin
@xsploit3 жыл бұрын
Have an older version of odin and it sounds like shit