4" Model 19 vs. Missouri Handgun Qualification

Here's number 27 in this series! I hope you like it! This course will feature our first "repeat performance" as I take on the Missouri course with the 4" Combat Magnum. This time around, however, the Model 19 will be stoked with full-power 158 grain Magnums! Check out the video to see how it goes.

[@LUVDOGS1954]

So many videos today are polymer "wondernines", Glock, Glock, Glock, Glock. It's great to see the proficient use of a classic. TYhank you.

[@hrfunk]

You are most welcome Ed. Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas!

[@wehrewulf]

"Wondernine" is a term referring to the DOUBLE ACTION HAMMER FIRED double stack semi-autos of the 80s that replaced the duty revolver. Modern polymer framed striker fired guns do not fit the term.

[@richardjohnson4238]

Great to see a Model 19, 4" being used. That was my first handgun, many years ago.

[@hrfunk]

I still love the Combat Magnums!

[@davidlight4659]

My dad was a cop in Missouri for 32 years, for most of his career he carried a 4 inch model 19

[@hrfunk]

Then he was well-armed indeed! Thanks for the comment!

[@traviscochran6280]

My first sidearm was a Model 66, so basically the same revolver. Those combat magnums are nice guns. Smith& Wesson knew how to build revolvers. Hard to beat any K frame.

[@hrfunk]

I agree. Thanks for watching!

[@Justin-LaFleur]

Love my 4" 19-3 beautiful revolver. Would love to get its stainless steel brother

[@lcsjr6040]

Love it when you bust out the wheel guns especially the Model 19...love the fact you shot 357 mags. Good course should score well. Well done HR.

[@springbloom5940]

I want to see him fan a SAA, for a 7 yard failure drill.

[@hrfunk]

Thanks Larry!

[@hrfunk]

Ha, ha! I might shoot my eye out!

[@granddad-mv5ef]

The late round in the 25-yard stage was so close I had to go back and watch it again. I have to say this is a compelling series, made more so by the fact you are not a factory sponsored shooter. And you are using different types of firearms, but most importantly you have not failed to qualify in any state!

[@hrfunk]

Thank you! I'll do my best to keep it that way through the remaining states!

[@BLACKRIFLEREVIEWS]

The S&W MDL 19 K FRAME .357 Magnum is my Favorite S & W Revolver it was my first Handgun I owned I also had the MDL 66 in stainless steel which was the same pistol I had a 6" Mdl 19 and several 4" and 2 1/2 " snub nose but the 6" was my deer hunting pistol in the 1970s with the 158-grain Keith cast lead bullet with the gas check base. Very accurate with the bullseye powder, 296 and 630p ball powder. In my duty weapon, I carried the Federal 357 magnum JHP 125 Grain load.

[@hrfunk]

Yep. The Combat magnums are among my favorite firearms. There's a lot to like about them!

[@CandidZulu]

@@hrfunk I bought my first handgun from Shotgun News, via a friend with an FFL . It was a S&W 581. Delivered with with the useless Magna stocks no one likes, in a blue cardboard box and wrapped in the classic brown paper. The classic S&W shopping experience! I think it was like 250 bucks at the time. This was in 1991. I really wanted the 610. The 581 is nice old classic well worth some exposure if you can find one! From what I understand though the .357 era was actually quite short, as far as Police duty weapon goes. In America the .38 special reigned supreme for most of the 20th century.

[@hrfunk]

@@CandidZulu That's hard to quantify because there are so many different states and agencies. Certainly New York City (the largest department in the country) suck with the .38 Special for almost the entire 20th Century. Still, many others used the .357 Magnum. I think it's really hard to say which one was more popular from 1953 until about 1985.

[@CandidZulu]

@@hrfunk My impression is that the .357 was used primarily from the 70's, up until the 9mm replicated it in the 90's. Many dept seem to have bought .357 revolvers but issued .38spl ammo. But I have no statistics, its just an impression from reading and watching videos.

[@sgtmajtrapp3391]

A true classic revolver very popular with law enforcement since its introduction. This was the gun most coveted for duty carry in the 70s especially the stainless version Model 66. We voted for the first issue duty gun and were told we would get what the majority wanted. Well the vast majority wanted the Model 66 .357, 3 people wanted to get a .38 Special. Well that magnum cost $10 more per weapon, so we ended up with guess what, S&W Model 67 Combat Masterpiece .38 Special revolvers. I purchased a S&W Model 19 2.5" .357 Magnum however for my 2nd off duty handgun, outstanding companion.

[@hrfunk]

The Combat Magnum is a fantastic wheelgun in any barrel length. I own 3 and I love them all!

[@vincentvanderfeltz304]

Missouri leo here. I've qualified on this course and other department's courses over the years. The only thing that you would need to change is your use of cover. We are trained to stand back from cover, maintaining approximately one foot of distance from the muzzle (muzzle plus a foot as we call it). The officer then maintains their use of cover and leans out from behind cover. This maintains as much cover and safety for the officer, while only giving the suspect a very small target. If done properly the officer can see their target fully, while from the target position you can only see the firearm and small portion of the officer's head. Leaning on the barrier is a disqualification.

[@hrfunk]

Thanks for the info!

[@survivalcomms]

That was a good course. The frosting was the K frame and the cherry on top full house loads. Thanks for sharing !

[@hrfunk]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@joehinojosa24]

I used to carry a Model 19 when I began security work back in the 1990s. It was " SIX FER SURE" back then. Didn't need Half a box of ammo in a wonder nine magazine back then.

[@hrfunk]

I still love the Combat Magnums. S&W got it right with the Model 19 and the 66.

[@joehinojosa24]

@@hrfunk Yeah. I was young , and dumb back then. I used to hand flip the cylinder shut or slam cylinder shut on my thigh. VERY HOLLYWOOD but bad for a delicate mechanism.

[@hrfunk]

@@joehinojosa24 Live and learn. At least you know better now.

[@kylewood8327]

Great qual course, model 19 is a exceptional revolver. I’m going to save this and try the test next time I’m at the range with my 19-4, 6inch.

[@hrfunk]

If you shoot it, let me know what you think of it.

[@kylewood8327]

@@hrfunk be glad to. My first ever revolver was a 6 inch 19-4 back in 1982, sadly i was a fool and traded it for something else. As luck would have it i found another 19-4 in 6 inch yesterday. It looks like its never been shot, this one is not getting traded! :)

[@thespankdmonkey]

93% is still excellent shooting with that classic wheelgun Sir! I occasionally carry a .357 with a 3 inch barrel and love to use the 158 grain semi jacketed HP Remington green box loads. I understand the love of the 125 grain loads but love the extra thump of the heavier loads.

[@hrfunk]

So do I. Like you, I prefer the 158 grain loads.

[@1historian]

I have fond memories of my Model 19. One of the most satisfying is wining a stage in a bowling pin match against another shooter with auto loader of some sort. We were both green and nervous and had to reload. Never-the less I did win that stage. Oh and I fired the Model 19 single action! I had to part with that gun some years ago...but things are not right without a K Frame. I now have a Model 65 in 3" which actually has a better trigger that the old Model 19. Looking forward to your next qualification video.

[@hrfunk]

I'm glad you still have at least one K-frame magnum. Thanks for watching!

[@jims9249]

Always great to see the model 19 in action.

[@JamesBond-sz9qf]

As always great shooting sir! My late father began his 30 plus year law enforcement career with the Mississippi Highway Patrol using the s&w model 19 combat magnum. He believed in its stopping power. Must admit I love shooting one. Anytime you want to use the model 19 is fine by me!

[@hrfunk]

Thanks James! I'm always happy to put a Combat Magnum in front of the camera!

[@stumpshot9970]

I used the 4 in model 66 at the montana state prison and really loved it. Funny I used to carry my speed loaders on the same side as my holster as well. It really seemed to be faster and using my dominant hand made sense to me. Great shooting sir

[@hrfunk]

Thank you Josh! There are two techniques typically used for reloading a revolver with a speed loader. The technique the shooter chooses determines the side the pouches are worn on. Thanks for watching!

[@jeffriley-yv3ng]

we trained that way

[@SierraBravo347]

I Love OLD Smith and Wesson wheelguns. They are Gorgeous!

[@hrfunk]

Yes they are!

[@GunSam]

I love those silhouette targets, I use the full size and scaled down ones a lot.

[@hrfunk]

Those B27's are one of the targets authorized by MO for qualification. Someone was nice enough to send me a few, so I wanted to use one for this course.

[@chadfette901]

Glad to see you shoot the course for my state. Great job! I knew it was coming sooner or later... I always enjoy these videos! Thanks!

[@hrfunk]

You’re welcome Chad. Thanks for watching!

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Well done, Sir! Another unique and challenging course of fire. It was nice to see the Model 19 again, too. I never tire of it or it's snubby brother.

[@hrfunk]

I'm glad to know that. I never get tired of shooting them!

[@higgi4146]

Great shooting with full power .357 loads on a tough course! Thanks for another awesome video!

[@hrfunk]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@Vagabond671]

You know, I haven't shot since I was 16 (I'm 25 going on 26 now), but my dad's Model 19 was my first gun I trained on and spent the most time on. Now I'm thinking of getting a Model 19 Carry Comp as my first EDC gun. I wonder how it would do with this course since the port really helps to tame the .357. Anyway, I just discovered your channel and am now subscribed! Keep up the great content and greetings from the island of Guam!

[@hrfunk]

Greetings and welcome aboard! I think that 19 Carry Comp would be a dandy CCW revolver. I also suspect if the shooter does his/her part well, the Carry Comp would do well on this course.

[@smithsurp7859]

Awesome shooting as usual sir, especially using 357. I am surprised you used Perfecta, haven't seen it on store shelves in 4 or 5 years. Please bring the Model 19 out again. It is the coolest firearm you use in these tests

[@hrfunk]

I'm sure you'll see the Model 19 again. I recently acquired quite a bit of .357 ammunition from a viewer. The Perfecta came from that.

[@Rumpleskin]

@@hrfunk I loved perfecta.supposed be fiocchi.fiocchi has a plant in GSM.(great state of missouri).

[@hrfunk]

@@Rumpleskin Fiocchi makes some good ammo too. I'll runs some of that in a future video.

[@michaelsmith-rh4yt]

​@@hrfunk Beware of "perfecta" in caliber .40 Smith and Wesson, will cause problems, I thought it was my M&P it would fail 1 per magazine, so tried it in a Sign P226, that gun would have 2 problems per magazine, neither gun had a problem with any other brand of ammo.

[@hrfunk]

Thanks. I don’t think I have any more of that stuff left.

[@stevekunde1117]

I do enjoy the revolver courses. Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@hrfunk]

You're welcome Steve. Thanks for watching!

[@classicgunstoday1972]

Can’t go wrong with a 4 inch magnum. As good as it gets.

[@heavydutyreviews1303]

Another awesome video! I love all of your videos but these qualification ones are especially interesting! Great firearm to use too! I just acquired a S&W model 19-2 Combat Magnum and it is such an awesome revolver! The perfect size .357 Magnum firearm! I actually carry it on the job as a private Investigator. I am retired from the military (4 years in the United States Marine Corp. as an EOD Sergeant and the next 17 years in the United States Navy) The military let me go to college to earn my Master's in Criminal Justice right here in Ohio at Bowling Green State University where I got my foot in the door to become a criminal investigator but now I am semi-retired from that and I just do private investigations and teach criminal justice courses at the local community college and sometimes teach at our Police academy on the Toledo campus. I understand you are in Ohio too! I really love your channel, lot's of great info! Keep 'em coming! Semper Fidelis devil dog! I know a former Marine when I see one!

[@hrfunk]

Semper Fi! and thank you. The Combat Magnum (in pretty much any barrel length) is my favorite wheelgun. It's just the right combination of light enough but not too light, compact enough but not too compact, and powerful enough! Bill Jordan got it right all those years ago. Take care.

[@heavydutyreviews1303]

@@hrfunk Definitely, I agree with everything you said. I have since been able to pick up a model 66 no dash with the SS sights. A real sweet shooter!

[@hrfunk]

Heavy Duty Reviews Now you’re making me jealous!

[@heavydutyreviews1303]

Lol!

[@heavydutyreviews1303]

@@hrfunk I actually do my own gunsmithing so I will find a firearm that's maybe a little distressed that has some issues and just needs some TLC and cleaning up, a little rust removal (blue wonder gun cleaner and 0000 steel wool goes a long way lol) I actually picked up the Smith & Wesson model 19-2 for about $400 and the Model 66 no dash for $450. I need to go on ebay and find some vintage grips and a period correct box for the model 66 no dash but I'm going to start posting videos on them soon, sort of a before and after.

[@talkingrock7011]

This is going to be a good one , I own a model 66-8 and really enjoy the revolver

[@hrfunk]

Thanks. I hope you like it!

[@Zona-dw9rp]

Love my 66 -8, too !

[@joep4235]

good course, and great revolver and ammo choice!! Merry Christmas HR

[@hrfunk]

Thanks Joe! Merry Christmas to you!

[@CandidZulu]

Very good qualification course, probably my favorite so far!

[@arshooter1]

Great Job Sir, Keep Warm, and Merry Christmas, Semper Fi.

[@hrfunk]

Same to you!

[@krihanek117]

Nice job, I never miss your qualification videos. Extra points for shooting full power 357 Mag.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Great course. Fine firearm. You put shots on target quite well. I have carried a # of 357 mags in 90s. 686, 66, 60 Smiths & a Security Six & a couple GP100s from Ruger. Though I have a great appreciation for revolvers, the autoloaders have won me over. Appreciate these vids.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you, I'm glad you like them!

[@craigbenz4835]

That was a fairly tough course. Good video, and nice choice of firearm and ammo.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you Craig!

[@treeratbuster]

Brilliant COF. Well done on your score.

[@sonnygunz9207]

I love the model 19 snub and model 66 snub. I carry one everyday. Great shooting. This Missouri course looked a little bit more like Texas. It’s been many years though.

[@hrfunk]

This was a good course. I liked shooting it.

[@logicaredux5205]

Dealing out misery in Missouri!😀 keep up the good work!

[@hrfunk]

Will do logica. Thanks for watching!

[@3Pillers]

Another great video, great shooting and thanks for posting.

[@hrfunk]

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching.

[@G273Outdoors]

Another awesome video! That one should rank up there as one of the more challenging courses so far. Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas to you and yours! Stay warm!

[@hrfunk]

Merry Christmas to you! I'm planning to stay inside where it's warm now for a while!

[@carloparisi9945]

This course seems pretty good to me, first it has you fire from the hip with no warm up, then you get one handed, strong hand and weak hand drills, also at close range. Shooting from cover is done at a challenging distance. It's like Paul Weston and W.E. Fairbairn designed a course together.

[@hrfunk]

This is a pretty well rounded course. It tests a good variety of critical skills, the time limits are reasonable, and the distances require some actual marksmanship ability.

[@CandidZulu]

@@hrfunk The weak hand drills, and the requirement for some good ol accuracy makes it a very good challenge!

[@steveww1507]

Love the model 19 . went in to my local gun shop asked if they could order me a 357 4 inch combat magnum the guy behind the counter said never heard of it . Then I asked what about the model 19 still nothing ..I guess Im getting old . I know they still make them . If it don t have polermer its old

[@hrfunk]

It could have been worse. When you asked for a Model 19 he might have handed you a Glock!

[@steveww1507]

@@hrfunk eeeeww LOL Great job on the vids

[@hrfunk]

@@steveww1507 Thank you!

[@pgg0024]

I could see your groups seemed tighter during your support hand only side shoots. It does look like a fun course

[@hrfunk]

It actually is. Give it a try and see what you think of it.

[@davidg.6751]

Great job on a tough course with stout ammo. Not easy to do! Well done HR.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you!

[@talkingrock7011]

That’s still good shooting HR and the magnum loads plus the time allowed per stage made it a challenge even for a seasoned shooter

[@hrfunk]

Yep. The added recovery time from the Magnum loads cost me a couple of points.

[@jc-vc7xq]

The only thing better than watching a model 19 smith in action is being the one shooting it. Love that gun great job on the course.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you!

[@jc-vc7xq]

hrfunk I’m really enjoying watch you tackle these state qualifiers. I’m retired LE and it’s pretty cool to see what other states come up with.

[@hrfunk]

@@jc-vc7xq Thanks! I'm glad you like them. I've got 23 still to come!

[@norby0418]

Looks like a decent course of fire and easy enough to qualify on. Though in my state we have a credit card size box for head shots and 3 of your 4 heads shots wouldn't have counted. But still a good course.

[@hrfunk]

I've seen similar things required by other states. Typically when there is such a requirement, the shots are either fired from a closer distance or the time limit is more generous (or both). Thanks for watching!

[@patmancrowley8509]

Yes, Howard, I enjoyed this qualification round!

[@hrfunk]

Good! I enjoyed it too.

[@zachb.6606]

Are you sure you're not left-handed?!? 😄 Nice shooting, I really enjoy these videos and fascinated with all the different qualifications courses that different states and agencies use. Kudos for using magnum ammo!

[@hrfunk]

You’re welcome Zach. I’m glad you’re enjoying the series.

[@Justin-LaFleur]

I've got a 4" model 19-3 that is in beautiful shape and I love it to death, great firearm

[@hrfunk]

There is just something about the Combat Magnums.

[@Justin-LaFleur]

@@hrfunk I absolutely love them! At one point I also had a 6" model 629-4. I also currently own a 4" no dash 586. Great guns those old Smiths

[@brucecarson1778]

Sounds great can’t wait. I love a good wheel gun video. Which speed loafers do you use ? The twist loaders or the push kind ? Any preference ? Thanks funk.

[@hrfunk]

The HKS "twist" type in this video.

[@rickyramirez3483]

Good job, Chief!

[@hrfunk]

Thanks Ricky! Merry Christmas!

[@rickyramirez3483]

hrfunk I’m getting in touch with a friend of mine here in Puerto Rico. He is a cop here in the Island...I just send him a text to see if he can get me the qualification target and procedure so I can send it to you! Felíz Navidad

[@hrfunk]

@@rickyramirez3483 Feliz Navidad Ricky! Let me know if you get that course.

[@frankvandornis4373]

this is what you get when industry listens to people like Bill Jordan and Elmer Keith! AMEN

[@hrfunk]

I couldn't agree more!

[@OhioCruffler]

Love my Mdl 19! My first centerfire handgun was a 19 I foolishly traded off, but almost immediately replaced. I lost the nickel and got a blued later; I prefer the blue so it's OK. Still have it (got it in 1982), and shoot it once in a while.

[@hrfunk]

There's a lot to love with the Combat Magnum! I'm glad you replaced the one that gor away!

[@dewell1993]

I love the model 19 especially the 6 inch configuration with the Patridge front sight which is what I have. My 19-3 is a tack driver.

[@hrfunk]

You've just got to love a good Combat Magnum!

[@dewell1993]

@@hrfunk indeed. The K frame is the perfect size for the 357 magnum IMO.

[@virginia7370]

Good course ... Thanks

[@hrfunk]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@rushedandlost]

It will be interesting to see you qualify for all 50 states. Including my home state of South Dakota.

[@hrfunk]

South Dakota was already done. Here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXLMfmOXlNBsjq8

[@apbiggins8mm]

Great vid as always

[@hrfunk]

Thanks Andrew!

[@patrickslevin6424]

That was a tough course, you did well.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you!

[@brianlee6849]

Very nice 👍! I think the adverse conditions make the test more accurate because real world conditions will always be a factor. Do any of the test you have done require you to be under stress such as running ? I think they should. I really like the 19 combat mag! I have been looking at revolvers GP100 Ruger, 686 S&M Redhawk 8 shot and many others there are so many medium frame revolvers. I'm seriously thinking about the 19 combat because it seems like such a beautiful and functional revolver plus it has such a long history. What is your opinion on the 19 and is there a medium 357 mag you would choose over it? I would not be using it as a carry just range fun and accuracy. Thanks great video as always 👍

[@hrfunk]

Brian Lee Thanks Brian! There have been one or two courses that have required some form of physical exertion prior to shooting, but that’s far from the norm. The vast majority have had no such requirement. With regard to a medium frame .357 Magnum recommendation, there are a LOT of good options. Part of the decision depends upon how much you want to invest, and part depends upon what type and how much ammo you intend to shoot. The S&W K-frame Combat Magnums (Model 19/66) were meant to be fired mostly with .38 Special ammo and occasionally with full-power .357’s. When used as such, they typically serve very well for a long time. For extremely heavy/hot .357’s they are a little light, and I wouldn’t feed them a steady diet of that sort of ammo. If you’re looking to shoot a lot of heavy/hot .357’s, then I’d move up to the L-frame revolvers (586/686) or Ruger GP100. These will hold up better to the additional stress generated by the more powerful ammo.

[@brianlee6849]

@@hrfunk I will probably mostly shoot 38 for cost. I won't be competing I feel like the 19 combat Magnum will serve my purposes very well. Thanks

[@brianlee6849]

What is your all time favorite police or mp issue pistol? And what was your Marine MP issue? Thanks

[@cigarsarge1]

Nice pistol. Shot several of them. I’m old enough that I carried a Colt Lawman MKIII for duty.

[@hrfunk]

Now there's a revolver! I made a video a few weeks ago with a Colt Trooper. It was very nice in its own right.

[@cigarsarge1]

@@hrfunk Still a shooter in very good shape. Saw the Trooper vid too.

[@johnmckelvey3404]

Cool video thanks for sharing.

[@hrfunk]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

[@kibble8820]

HR.. copy on the conditions. I could hear that cold wind whippin the trees. Burrrrrr..... I could see the difference with the full power ammo. And yes.. Despite the Weather..You handled it very well..

[@hrfunk]

Thank you!

[@leenelson5823]

Good one, good job. Thanks

[@hrfunk]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@springbloom5940]

Also interesting that the course begins at close contact and retreats to cover at long range. These courses typically run the opposite direction. It would be interesting to see it run as a single stage, with single iterations of each drill.

[@hrfunk]

I've seen a few other courses that start up close and then move back. A lot of courses start the other way so they can be certain of where the long range shots hit the target.

[@springbloom5940]

@@hrfunk At the end of this project, you should put together a course, using the best standards from all of these. Some of these quals aren't great, but have some really solid elements.

[@hrfunk]

@@springbloom5940 I'm thinking about doing something like that.

[@springbloom5940]

@@hrfunk Im in a minority, but I'd like to see failure drills performed differently. They're always done as basically a rehearsed 'triple-tap', which negates their purpose, in my opinion. I always pause by retracting or lowering the weapon, before re-engaging with a head snapshot. When working with a partner, we just randomly call out a failure, on standard drills. Its best, when they're in a reload or in midst of coming back to a ready position.

[@hrfunk]

​@@springbloom5940 You and I are on the same wavelength. Here's a reply I gave to another viewer regarding the failure drill "One thing that bothers me about the Mozambique/failure/body armor/two-to-the-body-one-to-the-head drill is the way it is typically conducted. As I understand things, the drill was originally devised as an emergency measure to stop a hostile threat that already sustained two shots to the body. That being the case, it seems there SHOULD be a pause after the first two body shots to assess their effectiveness. After that pause, if a head shot is necessary, the shooter would then deliver it. In the context of a qualification course, the instructor would say "Threat!" at which time the shooter would fire the first double-tap to the body. The shooter would then pause before firing the head shot. After a momentary (albeit, brief) pause, the instructor would either shout "Threat" or "No Threat" and the shooter would respond accordingly. It seems to me that conducting the drill as stated above would better demonstrate the original tactic and help reinforce the idea of assessing the effectiveness of one's shots before firing more (i.e. fire discipline). The problem is, shooting the two shots to the body and following up with the head shot as quickly as possible is fun and most shooters (including me) like to see just how fast they can deliver the coup de gras. Even so, for sound training, I think it would be better to conduct the drill as I laid out. "

[@fkrr5]

Great shooting, seems like you can really get those old wheel guns going. Out of all your revolvers, do you have a personal favorite ?

[@hrfunk]

Yep.Not surprisingly it's a Combat Magnum. My 3" Model 66 is my favorite!

[@cleondubois1270]

Could be wrong but I think that course is tailored to semi-autos (time limits). Probably at a disadvantage using a wheel gun.

[@hrfunk]

I think you're right. Even so, I wanted to give it a go with the Model 19.

[@travisrains3659]

AWESOME

[@chrism5086]

I'm going to have to say this course will rate near the top. It covers non-dominant shooting, 1 to 25 yard distances, shooting from behind a barricade and respectable time limits.

[@hrfunk]

My sentiments exactly. It's a good course.

[@benjaminarmstrong7047]

Hey! Welcome to Missouri sir.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you Benjamin!

[@davegrizzly6301]

Shout from missouri . 👍👍👍

[@Defender78]

5:40 wow the string of three rounds with the dominant hand or right hand is a good group. Same thing when you repeated it. But shooting with the left hand, the groups are even tighter, and that’s not the dominant hand!

[@hrfunk]

Thanks! That's because I actually started to pay attention to my front sight when I was shooting with my left hand. I should have done the same with my right hand.

[@PapajosTraders]

Yeah, that surprised me too.

[@looseballs1966]

@@hrfunk Years ago when in training I had an instructor that drilled the whole front sight idea into my head, I had nightmares about it, he used to say things like pay attention to that front sight or I'll remove the rear sight so your feable little brain can't get confused, he was also a firm believer in instictive or point shooting as some call it, he would tape over the sights then put us through the same drills at distances as far as 15 yards, now that my eyes are starting to go to hell in a handbasket I have got to thank him for that because it's probably the only reason I can still shoot as good as I still manage to, anyhow good shooting on that course missing three or four ain't that bad, I used to be range officer at a big range where I live and the county sherriff, and two local citie's police and sometimes the state police used to use the range for training and qualifications, and boy some of those guys just couldn't shoot worth a hill of beans no matter how hard they tried, I guess some just don't quite have the natural skillset no matter hard they try to train it into them, of course they all eventually get through it but those guys really have to work at it, must give them nightmares a couple times a year that they have to requalify. anyhow thanks for the great videos as always and as you say good shooting.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you, and thanks for a GREAT comment!

[@chrischiampo7647]

Reminder Set HrFunk 💨🔫👀👍🏼

[@stevenunyabidness]

Those old fixed pin 19s are pretty slick. Any experience with the new 19 classics or the 69 in .44?

[@hrfunk]

Not yet. I keep thinking about getting one of the new 19's. Maybe I will at some point.

[@stevenunyabidness]

hrfunk i'd bet anything that you'd enjoy the 69 also. it's the second smith i ever bought and it's probably my favorite so far(stronger and more tightly built than my 629 classic and prints better groups than i can shoot). it's a small for frame large bore like that 19, and it seems to have piqued my interest in that little k frame recently.

[@leroymorris6036]

that was a good course those Missourri boys must shoot good. Can you do one on the Texas Ranger course?

[@hrfunk]

I have a Texas course up, but I don’t know if the Rangers use it.

[@mauwalker]

I thought that was nice gunhandling, Chief. It’s punishing to shoot all those full house magnums from a light revolver and you made it look like shooting regular 9mm or .38.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you! If felt a little heavier on the receiving end.

[@scottperson9487]

Great video. KZbin decided to unsubscribe me from your channel. Resubscribed. Is that an after market grip? It appears to be less of a target grip than most old Smiths.

[@hrfunk]

It disturbs me to hear about you being "unsubscribed". I wonder how many others that might have happened to. The grips are actually from the S&W factory. I bought them several years ago to replace the rubber Hogue's that were on this revolver to begin with.

[@davidwevans4132]

Well Done Sir, curious about your M19. Is it an Original or the New Classic? Thank you for your time!

[@hrfunk]

It's an original. If i remember correctly, it's a model from the late 1980's.

[@willcravens2893]

Great video! What kind of grips do you have on this model 19? They look nice.

[@hrfunk]

Thanks! I bought them directly from S&W back when they used to sell grips.

[@TCFan25]

Unless I missed something, this revolver is/not dept issue but just an individual request only? For every state is these series based upon the larger State/City department quals and not the smaller local municipalities? Thanks very much appreciated. PS I wish someone in Australia would cover all our 8 states qual standards.

[@hrfunk]

No. Some states have a mandatory qualification standard for all officers in that state. Others leave the qualification standard to the individual department.

[@18wheeler77]

Shouldn’t that be three rounds? Since one round wasn’t fired? Great video

[@hrfunk]

The one that wasn't fired essentially counts as a miss.

[@18wheeler77]

hrfunk gotcha.

[@Stinkypinky76]

Shooting one handed and shooting from the 25 is training should not be part of qual. We concentrate too much on competition score instead of round accountability as long as all rounds are in the body that is what should matter

[@patriott3087]

Like the model 19 , but they don't make em'like they used to .

[@hrfunk]

No, unfortunately they don't.

[@craigbenz4835]

This video has a good run down on the differences: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apmcnWWfpc5-nJY

[@shanequigley7552]

How difficult was it to control the magnum and keep the shots on target in stage one at 1 yard from the target?

[@hrfunk]

Not tremendously difficult.

[@Helpline5815]

I have a crazy question, forgive my ignorance, no disrespect intended, just curious, I'd welcome any feedback if I have been doing it wrong this whole time, but why the open, upturned grip on the front of the M16, in front of the mag well, in the opening credits?

[@hrfunk]

It’s a technique for precision shooting. Essentially, your support hand acts as a rest for the rifle. Keeping the hand open and relaxed eliminates any tremors that might occur if the muscles are tense.

[@Helpline5815]

@@hrfunk thank you, I'll remember that and use it. I've shot offhand and it's very hard to keep steady and accurate

[@hrfunk]

That’s the most difficult position to shoot from. You will never be completely steady, there’s always some movement. You have to learn to time your trigger squeeze.

[@Dan.50]

Can't go wrong with a Model 19 or 66.

[@hrfunk]

Agreed!

[@easyfiveOsink]

I'm not sure why, but watching this video this felt like one of the harder targets. maybe because the target qualification area wasn't color toned differently. If looked like a smaller area.

[@hrfunk]

That's interesting. When I look at the B27 it looks massive. On the other hand, the scoring area is much smaller than the overall silhouette. Keeping shots inside the 8-ring might actually give the shooter less square inches of "scoring area" than the Q-Target, but someone better than me at geometry will have to figure that one out.

[@easyfiveOsink]

@@hrfunk "the scoring area is much smaller than the overall silhouette" That's likely it HR. The Q-Target may in fact have the same scoring area, but the overall silhouette is not the size of the B27, thanks!

[@mikemc330]

It might have been asked further down in the comments, but, what kind of holster are you using?

[@hrfunk]

A Triple K thumb-break.

[@mikemc330]

@@hrfunk good evening, I’ve seen many of your videos and the content is excellent. Is there a private way to provide constructive criticism? I’d love for you to climb in subscribers to the 500,000 Mark. Thanks

[@hrfunk]

@@mikemc330 feel free to email me at [e-mail]

[@bisleyblackhawk1288]

Model 19-5?

[@hrfunk]

Yep!

[@stephendettweiler746]

93% is still good under conditions

[@hrfunk]

Thanks Steve! I just wanted to get this one done and get out of the cold!

[@stephendettweiler746]

@@hrfunk thought u were taking a break from the series until Spring?

[@hrfunk]

Steve Dettweiler alightindarknessradio I’m not really taking a break, the videos are just going to slow down some due to the weather. That said, I recorded this video a couple of weeks ago.

[@stephendettweiler746]

@@hrfunk ok cool

[@Snubrevolver]

Have you ever seen any qualifications with a stage that requires loading loose rounds?

[@hrfunk]

No, not so far.

[@artcantulaw]

Can you share with me the link for your holster?

[@hrfunk]

It’s a Triple K holster and speedloader pouch. Just search for Triple K and you’ll find them.

[@swalker157]

What holster are you using?

[@hrfunk]

A Triple K revolver holster.

[@JHUM22]

There definitely isn’t a set handgun for qualification for the whole state. Every agency I’ve worked at has their own. Still an interesting video though.

[@hrfunk]

Thank you!

[@claytonstearns8115]

MSHP used to carry the model 28.

[@hrfunk]

The Model 28 would have been a good one on this course too.Thanks for watching!

[@claytonstearns8115]

Can I send you my department’s qualifications it is also in the state of Missouri?

[@hrfunk]

Clayton Stearns Sure, if you like. I might not record a video with it for a while since I already have one up for MO.

[@claytonstearns8115]

hrfunk send me your address

[@hrfunk]

@@claytonstearns8115 Do you need email ( [e-mail] ) or USPS?

[@skipboyer1889]

In the immortal words of some motion picture cowboy....."Ya dun gud!" Which one is next?

[@hrfunk]

Probably Alabama, but I might end up re-recording the Maine course before that. Weather and Holidays will have an impact on the timing.

[@chadfette901]

Glad to see you shoot the course for my state. Great job! I knew it was coming sooner or later... I always enjoy these videos! Thanks!