4. The Heart of the Matter with the 'NIFB'

[@SbjsksmNx]

Love is what is missing. And it's the most important thing.

[@George-ur8ow]

"Love never fails"

[@shilohbell1573]

All fruits of the spirit are missing, and considering Jesus said we will know them by their fruit…

[@winterain6857]

The fruits of the spirit are missing as well which is important as a Pastor

[@Ellier215]

Can't agree more.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

"New IFB? There is no such thing as the New IFB?" - Steven Anderson "I think I am the one who started the New IFB. And I get no credit or respect for that." - Also Steven Anderson

[@Andiiiio]

Steven Anderson unfortunately, is an angry man. Proverbs 22:24-25 King James Version 24 Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go: 25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul. I pray he changes his way, not for us all, but for his wife and children.

[@mikeha]

his anger definitely affects you if you listen to him long enough

[@jena9176]

MY PRAYER IS THAT STEVEN ANDERSON AND HIS WIFE ARE PROSECUTED AND PUT IN PRISON WITH HIS BROTHER CLINT GETS CUSTODY OF THE REMAINING 8 CHILDREN IN THEIR HOME 👍

[@Morganistas]

Important observations, Pastor. Thank you. In the NIFB, you got good doctrine. In the OIFB, you got loving community and culture. Kids raised in the NIFB and people saved into the NIFB will never experience charity there nor see Spirit-filled examples consistently. "If you lie with dogs, you'll get fleas" - to shed the fleshly habits of the NIFB is a process of genuine sanctification. Unlearning the ways of an angry man takes time. We need to pray and support these new exiles into that sweet spot where mercy and truth have met together, where righteousness and peace have kissed each other. And yes, humility is the entry. That's a hard truth when your father and pastor is the most prideful person some people know.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@Morganistas well said.

[@mikeha]

you're right, the angriness and schoolyard bully stuff of the NIFB influences the behaviour if you are exposed to it long enough. The solution is to stop listening to it. I replaced NIFB with free grace channels such as Ralph Yankee Arnold , Tom Cucuzza, and Grace Evangelical Society, and Gregg Jackson and some KZbin free grace channels. Much better spirit than the NIFB.

[@clydewillis]

I grew up "old" IFB. Both are trees filled with the rotten fruit of hate and pride. The "new" crowd is just more open and honest about who they really are. There isn't a real substantive difference.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@clydewillis Old IFB is a pretty broad term. We are all human, but I don't think it is fair to put us all in that category.

[@craigtittsworth9440]

AMEN, appreciate your response brother.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

Love you, Pastor. I really appreciate that my family and I have a humble man to get behind and serve God with.

[@Cellistandpianist]

We appreciate hearing your thoughts on this. It gives a lot to think about and consider!

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@Cellistandpianist I'm done now. Haha

[@Cellistandpianist]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 It’ll feel good to be able to move on.

[@KJVbaptist]

You sound like a great man of God

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@KJVbaptist I appreciate that. For sure, I have my faults in a lot of different areas though.

[@winterain6857]

He has no mercy, love no fruits of the spirit

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@winterain6857 that has been my observation

[@winterain6857]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 he has led many astray, it breaks my heart

[@1611KJV]

I’ve learned a lot from PSA. he helped me understand the Bible version issue. It’s sad to see what’s come to light. The candlestick has been removed. Dan 5:25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

[@nwospidey5782]

you're wrong tho

[@nzifb7409]

Candlestick hasn't been removed, wot ya on about?

[@Iam_Celene]

God Bless You and Yours Pastor Randall!

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

Thank you

[@jena9176]

MINUTE MARK 4:49 CHILDREN SHOULD NEVER BE HIT WITH A ELECTRICAL CORD,NEVER . PERIOD. IT'S CHILD ABUSE.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@jena9176 I do get it. I'm not justifying anything, I'm just getting to the heart rather than the current accusations.

[@beckypetersen2680]

Regarding cuss words...the boys learned it from their dad.

[@AlexLopez-wl1jt]

The reason I follow SA is not because I had a bad upbringing or no father figure but it’s because I was an unsaved Roman Catholic that came to the knowledge of the truth listening to his preaching and another 20 Roman Catholics in my immediate family did as well as a result of me repenting from that false religion. Several lives have been changed in my personal life and we share the same love for the lost that he does. That’s the fruit I’ve seen of him.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@AlexLopez-wl1jt I appreciate that. And I hesitated in saying it the way I did because I know my assumption is only that. (I did, however, say I think "most" of his followers...)

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@AlexLopez-wl1jt I do recognize the good he has done. And sometimes people say, "A bad tree can't produce evil fruit." Well, God is the one who produces fruit. And any genuine fruit that Anderson has produced is because he is saved and truly does have godly wisdom and the holy spirit inside him. That doesn't mean he hasn't allowed too many "bugs" and "diseases" that will corrupt the very fruit God produced through him.

[@ColorsFlight]

I definitely think every pastor should be speaking out about not hitting your kids with extension cords. That is literally so insane and basically torture. This is one of my problems with the conservative churches that I try and listen to it's all women submit this and kids are basically your property that and then they don't really clarify how any of that works. So then some dudes here and the then really abuse their wives and kids. It's a huge huge problem in the IFB child and spousal abuse. Not saying you do this I haven't seen any of your preaching it's just something I have noticed and why I hesitate to go to an IFB church bc I don't want my boys thinking about girls that way and I don't want my daughter thinking of herself that way. I broke the cycle of abuse in my family I am not going to set my kids up for restarting it in theirs.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@ColorsFlight I can understand your fear.

[@ColorsFlight]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 Thank you. I don't think my comment was very well put together so hopefully it what I was trying to convey came through. lol

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

If Jim Jones had no trouble holding onto lawyers, doctors, and academics until the end: Steven has even less difficulty holding onto his thick-as-bricks adorers. They need him more than Steven needs them.

[@Suzanhanson8478]

Exactly! So many comparisons can be made: Lemmings is an especially good one. Pied Piper. King Midas even! No one DARES say anything about him bc he is literally God on earth to so many! Are they encouraged to read all of God’s Word? To practice the 1st & 2nd commandments in the NT? How about Acts 4:32!!! Just be kind to each other!!!

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

@@Suzanhanson8478 It's simply a co-dependent relationship. Steven is a magnet for low self-esteem men without purpose or meaning in their lives. Good Christians will fall away from the New IFB as they run for their lives - only these men will remain. In fact, Steven Anderson is not remotely the angriest and unhinged person within the New IFB - that accolade goes to his worshippers.

[@FacelessMan777]

Well said. Nothing more needs to be said to explain whether or not Anderson's church will survive or whether or not he will still have a following.

[@celebratecrypto3693]

That’s absurd comparison your cleary just a hating person and I gurantee you not even Christian get the f out of here demon

[@blessedmama2727]

Some of the things coming out the mouths of those young men are disturbing. It just goes to show you what was being modeled in the home. Something is seriously wrong with Steven Anderson's home life. He and his wife are not training their children up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

Children might exaggerate their beatings - but no child has ever made up a story about finding Dad's anal beads and dildoes or laundering mom's French maid outfit. That's just wrong on so many levels.

[@DCAllen-ht5ik]

​@KennethMahjongOathII Yes- the beads, purple tool, french maid & crop= disturbing.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

@@DCAllen-ht5ik I thought Steven was a natural law theorist big time - even more than the Pope. He really seems to have left the natural use of a woman behind. Never mind that the children were exposed to this weird and dirty stuff with no respect for boundaries and dignity. What on earth would they have made of this? I think we are now seeing the fruit of that.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

@1stwastheword893 Yes, because the alternative would require you to practice a different religion - instead of Andersonism - and worship a different god - instead of Steve.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

@1stwastheword893 Four out of four Cains according to your KoolAid analogy.

[@celebratecrypto3693]

Steven did a video last night and defended himself very good. And I think he is right. Honor your mother and father not the children!

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@celebratecrypto3693 Yeah, I have not defended the children in this (that isn't to say they are not right in any of the allegations, but that isn't the point of my videos)

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@celebratecrypto3693 that fact that they are making these and the way he is responding is all we need to know to confirm my allegations

[@XD-inator]

When I got saved, I started listening to Anderson sermons. Really good doctrine but I immediately felt the hate he has. Nevertheless I gained much knowledge and wisdom he provided. Now I look unto Pastor Fannin and Pozarnsky. They show lots of love with knowledge combined. Blessings to all.

[@ColorsFlight]

The Absolom story is crazy that they are using it against John bc all that stuff happened bc David sinned and God told him his house would be all upset forever for what he did.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@ColorsFlight yeah, lots of applications to that story

[@Costumekiller]

In my opinion the new ifb carried on through the churches that spoke against Pastor Anderson this time. They still have the same doctrines just lost the the ungodly wife beating stuff

[@MatthewJohn14.6]

amen

[@DCAllen-ht5ik]

Yes, lots of the IFB & NIFB have turned FB & NFB.

[@mikeha]

your theory about people who follow Anderson didn't have a good father? I disagree. I used to listen to Anderson and watched all his sermons, movies, etc. I did not have a bad family or father. His preaching was what delivered to me the true gospel and I got saved from it. He baptised me when he came to our city to promote Babylon USA. I didn't like some of his more angry preaching and I always disagreed on his reprobate doctrine, but I agreed with a lot of what he was preaching back then . But something changed at some point and it became clear to me that what he was doing was running a cult where you could not disagree with him on anything or else be shunned. What really got me out of it was when he banished Tyler Baker. I listened to Baker explain his position on the Trinity, and I realized Baker was correct and he was not a oneness pentecostal like Anderson accused him of. So I ended up in a band of misfits that was against what Anderson was doing, we had a whatsapp group to discuss it. anyway, I knew a lot of people who were following Anderson and they were largely a lot of nice people. They were just caught up in the man worship of Anderson too much. Eventually some of them realized what was going on, some didn't. I got out but still agree with a lot of anderson's sermons, especially his early stuff which is still good to this day. I just can't listen to him anymore because of all the other stuff that happened. He literally destroyed churches with one video posted calling out pastors who disagreed with him, churches that were full of Andersonites who would overthrow the pastor when Anderson would preach against them. Some pastors I knew disagreed with him but were afraid to come out publicly because of this. That's a cult.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@mikeha thanks for sharing. I have had others message me and say they think it was the case with them. But I know it isn't everyone who listens. I had a good father as well.

[@MatthewJohn14.6]

amen

[@COMB0RICO]

I mostly agree with this video.

[@elianmakdsi8908]

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful luke 6:36 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mathew 7:-15 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Mathew 6:14-15 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap galatians 6:7 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes luke 6:44

[@winterain6857]

How anyone could watch Steven Anderson "sermons" and not see n hear he is not fit to lead anyone

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@winterain6857 it is sort of a weird process. I think a person is almost mesmerized by how unusual it is. It starts as like a "guilty pleasure" listening to someone rant and rave. Then you start to hear that he is actually making a lot of sense, and you can see what he is saying in the Bible. After a while, you look past the craziness. Then you find out you aren't the only one doing this. He has thousands of listeners who feel the same way... but I can't imagine anyone not sensing the red flags the whole time like I did.

[@winterain6857]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 he actually twists, abuses scripture, so many things hes done and said that are in direct opposition to Gods word

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@winterain6857 true, I have seen that, but I have also seen it among many preacher's I have grown up listening to. So, I suppose one starts to make excuses for them or give them the benefit of the doubt. We can all be guilty of mishandling scripture.

[@winterain6857]

@iolabaptisttemple7306 i grew up listening to Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah, James Dobson etc, are you familiar??

[@winterain6857]

@iolabaptisttemple7306 are you a Pastor??

[@SbjsksmNx]

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. Jn 13.35

[@faithfulwordchristbaptist]

Amen.

[@sweetness535]

Rebelion? Like, these kids are adults and clearly steve wasnt a real parent. Sounds like the kids are pursuing justice for wrongdoings. Even proverbs says the wicked man considereth not the life of his beast, it sounds like these kids were treated worse than beasts.

[@GTOberfest]

Well it's interesting...all of their children seem to talk about their parents in a distant way..almost as if he is just some guy and there is no connection...Something went wrong in that household. I do believe the children on the abuse part.

[@DCAllen-ht5ik]

I will say some comments have been funny even when this has been a serious subject over last 8 months- it's brought all types out of the woodwork. I mean some of what people said was that over the top that you sometimes couldn't help laughing even when not really funny. It can be hard to know& control how you will react in the moment.

[@jasonelliott1722]

Yes, and the old Steven Anderson yelling and belittling Tyler Baker video reveals so much more now.

[@COMB0RICO]

Eh, Baker deserved a hard talking to. The revealing thing was that Anderson knew of his flakey behavior but was going to ordain him anyway. I speculate that Anderson was impressed with Baker's type-A personality and brushed off his other flaws.

[@jasonelliott1722]

@@COMB0RICO Perhaps, but my point was that Anderson was acting like a big hissy-fit throwing baby. Can you imagine how he speaks to a child if he does this to a grown man?

[@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu]

Why do we kick people out of church?

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu the Bible tells us to in certain cases. It is to keep the church spiritually and morally clean (as much as possible). The goal should be repentance and restoration.

[@jeremybourgeois-w5w]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 OK I understand that. Pastor if you could contact me tomorrow that would be great.

[@beckypetersen2680]

The church should be voting people out - and not one man/pastor.

[@soulh4838]

9:47 I cringed when one of them said, "STFU" to his own mom, and refers to her as "his wife," as in Pastor Anderson's wife, multiple times in the video!! I'm sitting there thinking, "Dude! That's YOUR MOM, not just your dad's wife!!" Talk about disrespect!! These kids need to remember that they will sow what they reap. Their own kids will grow up, and do this and even worse to them!! It's best if they stop being prideful, and go reconciliate with their parents! If all these allegations were true, then the kids would've been removed from that home years ago because they get reported to CPS a lot!! I won't be convinced until concrete proof of these allegations, if any, comes out! All I see is happy kids, not extremely abused kids!! In July of 2023 we went to Houston to get baptized, and we met Pastor Anderson, Miriam, Logan, and 2 of Pastor Anderson's smaller children, Boaz (8) and Steven (11). I even sat next to Miriam, and she looked like a beautiful, well-rounded teenager with zero issues with her family and very proud of her dad! Those smaller kids even got along great with our then 10-year-old son! So, no, I won't believe any of it because there's zero concrete proof, just allegations. And you are innocent until PROVEN guilty, but not with just testimonies, concrete proof, like pictures, video, maybe physical scars on bodies, an inspection of the alleged place where all this took place, where you'd probably find damaged walls, furniture, etc. (We bought a mobile home in 2008 that had holes in the walls that looked like someone punched it in!! We still have 2 places that my husband has to fix because those holes are still there, only when we bought the mobile home, they had placed mirrors on top of them to cover them up. Conclusion: there was probably domestic violence going on in this mobile home when the previous owner was living in it!) No concrete proof = allegations not true!

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@soulh4838 oh yeah, it was pastor Anderson who was quoted as saying "Go F yourself." I got them mixed up

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@soulh4838 This is why I have tried to leave the allegations alone. Not sure how it has gone this far, but to me the video testimonies only served as further evidence to some things I felt in my heart.

[@ColorsFlight]

eye witness testimony is the best evidence actually and is the most powerful evidence in court. It's also the same evidence we use for Jesus Christ being true. People sound so dumb when they say this. I don't get what's so hard to get. PSA wanted an ultra submissive wife it doesn't actually work that way in real life though so he started beat her and yes he used cords and over time is wife probably grew cold to her child and on and on. It's and IFB thing to be super abusive to wife and kids though bc they never fully defined what any of this stuff means and different people take things different ways.

[@muscledollpuck]

We live in a time of the "court of social opinion" not actual justice with evidence and cross-examination. "Believe me cause I said so!" is these kids "evidence." They have zero evidence and that's the problem. They had phones with video, audio recording, and pictures and yet they have NOTHING to show backing up any of their "abuse." Funny, they admit in the last of their interviews that their stated goal is not to get their siblings out of the house, but to just de-throne their Dad as Pastor of FWBC. They are liberal, progressive, humanists that intrinsically hate what their Dad believes, preaches, and practices so they want to destroy him just like many others have tried and failed. Isaiah 54:17 17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord. Matthew 10:34-40 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. There is a difference between believing on Christ and actually having a deep personal reverence for Jesus and his entire Bible. Matthew 4:4 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

[@lindsayball5080]

I noticed that he kept saying his wife. Very strange

[@11B3P]

You don’t need to do all that or use this or are you that all you have to say is are you compromising?

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@11B3P not sure what you are saying

[@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu]

Why do we have to reprobate people.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu we dont

[@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 is your church a hospital for the hurting?

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu no, it's a church (sorry, I had to) We would like to think so. Jesus is the answer. He is the Great Physician

[@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 so since it's a church so you throw people out ?

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@JeremyBourgeois-zh8lu if people continue in certain sins

[@sweetness535]

Pastor randal, you seem dead inside, man.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@sweetness535 I'm not. But I'd be happy to consider what you mean.

[@sweetness535]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 Happy, huh? Do this for yourself, watch this video on mute and examine at your own face for a bit. Especially your own eyes. Thats the best i can suggest because youtube comments aint a good medium for drawn out analysis.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@sweetness535 thank you. I'll try to take note of that.

[@winterain6857]

​@@iolabaptisttemple7306have you seen the video of the man walking forward to ask for prayer from Steve??

[@Addie-j6f]

Why are you so obsessed with cuss words? They are man-made words. Some of the most anointed people I know say what the hell. You seem like you have a spirit of religion because you are so obsessed over details. And you call the victims prideful😮

[@DCAllen-ht5ik]

I wonder if "Damm" would be considered as curse Damnation😮😇🤫🤔

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@Addie-j6f words are man-made, but how they are used is the issue. Cuss words don't bother me at all. I hear them all of the time in the world.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

@@Addie-j6f I think the cuss words reveal an angry heart. Perhaps a filthy mind also. The riding chair, beads, dildos and BDSM/whipping is probably not unrelated.

[@ashlieleavelle]

The Bible says so much about speech and how are words are to be. It is disturbing when pastors and professing Christians cuss on a regular basis and justify it. It isn't holy or becoming. This isn't religion. We are supposed to be ambassadors and representing Christ to a lost and dying world.

[@lindsayball5080]

Is it fine to say the name Jesus Christ as a swear then if it's just words?

[@cynthiajswenson5383]

I pray Anderson's heart would soften and he would repen...but sometimes I wonder if he is a reprobate?

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@@cynthiajswenson5383 Let's not jump to that conclusion

[@cynthiajswenson5383]

@@iolabaptisttemple7306 listening to Pastor David Berzins, Strong Hold Baptist Church, Judging Righteously right now. Steven Anderson said yesterday on Facebook that the Bible "doesn't teach on spousal discipline", (wife beating) so no one can biblically say it's wrong??? Pastor David is addressing this issue. Steven Anderson is an Achan presently and the church needs to address this. Prayers for you and your ministry. In Jesus, Cynthia 💖💖💖

[@lindsayball5080]

Noone is "reprobate " .anyone can be saved. This reprobate stuff is like limited atonement. And osas is perseverance of the saints

[@George-ur8ow]

​@@lindsayball5080hit the nail on the head with your comment

[@chrismccarthy7623]

​@lindsayball5080 you're incorrect the reprobate doctrine is very much biblical. Homosexuals cannot be saved

[@annehedonia156]

Unsubbed. Done with this smear campaign by you and his other so-called friends.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

"Don't let the door hit you on the way out Bozo" - Pastor Steven L Anderson (every Sunday)

[@breadhombre720]

Don't think that's what he's trying to do, but fair enough.

[@KennethMahjongOathII]

@@breadhombre720 He's making a public record of his position - which unfortunately is probably necessary given his previous friendship with Steven Anderson and association with the New IFB.

[@iolabaptisttemple7306]

@annehedonia156 well, if you are still there, I said it was the last one. So, hopefully you won't hear me talk about it anymore.

[@markpayne6436]

Anderson smeared himself by being a complete hypocrite!!!