40,000 Miles in a BMW i8: the Good, the Bad, the Ugly

Believe it or not the lease on our BMW i8 is running out. We've had it for 3 years now and proudly accumulated 40,000 miles from road trips to other states, commuting to work, and just heading to the grocery store. We have enjoyed the hell out of it but it hasn't been without its own issues. Here's a sum up of the good, the bad, and the ugly from our ownership of the BMW i8.
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[@codymachado]

Just looks like you don’t take very good care of the interior tbh. I have lemon leather in my bmw and it’s mint after 5 years. I condition it and take caution when exiting the car it looks brand new

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

All I can say is we did take care of it but you seem to know more about our i8 then me so who am I to say lol it’s stupid comments like this that annoy me.

[@codymachado]

If Cars Could Talk I know more about yourself than you do

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

pete b Thanks for the input that’s very interesting to hear from a techs perspective. Appreciate the feedback!

[@poopshoot7882]

Cody Machado your car is ugly!

[@codymachado]

Poop Shoot how lol

[@kewkabe]

10 second summary -- Good: looks cool, good speed, good handling, hybrid engine (30mpg), carbon fiber hull. Bad: weird fake engine sound, no manual transmission (too easy to drive), no AM radio. Ugly: cheap leather seats deteriorate.

[@normastanberry1938]

Lk o ok mø

[@markblackman2542]

AM Radio ? you living in the 70's mate

[@erica8165]

I think ppl are disappointed or hating on the i8 because they expect it to be a sports and it isn't. It's a grand-touring car for cruising along on the interstate. The quick acceleration is a bonus and the good/great gas mileage is a double bonus. Just gotta set your expectations and it can be satisfying.

[@fw1421]

Not worth the huge depreciation. Wait and buy a used one at a huge discount.

[@johnsonjiang5615]

9:36 you’ve become a real bmw driver now

[@der.kdf.brother]

The haters probably hate it because they don't have one. I don't hate the car, I just hate the fact that I don't have one yet.

[@desuc5842]

Believe in yourself.. and u will have it.. 💪 Be strong and work hard

[@der.kdf.brother]

I'm getting there.

[@zapparonic724]

no the haters are there because the cringey way that he got out legit, that's the only reason i left a dislike.

[@DSN262]

Sounds like the 'haters' are living in your head rent free

[@ultravioletxyz]

i dont hate the bmw i8 but i feel like other cars in its price range are better

[@tommybedford2251]

I just bought mines on the 23rd for my 47th birthday and I'm loving it..

[@ODDee816]

TOMMY BEDFORD I aspire man! How is it so far, what’s the reaction like?

[@tommybedford2251]

@@ODDee816 I'm loving it

[@ODDee816]

TOMMY BEDFORD I love modern classics and great value. With gentlemanly style, sleek design, optional beast mode, and environment conscious I’m pretty confident it’s one of if not the only car in its class and sits shining in the middle. I’m plotting hard on one of these beauties man.

[@tommybedford2251]

@@ODDee816 I say go for it, you will love it, the performance is nice, its a eye catcher for sure. So if you trying to hide lol lol wrong car to get!!

[@ODDee816]

TOMMY BEDFORD I turned 32 this past Jan def gonna put in the work, save n revisit this thread. Right now I’m 2020 Cts daily driver

[@abdulrehmanmian1476]

Lol fake sound car haha. *Proceeds to leave in his 98 Camry

[@troystcyr3771]

LOL

[@raven4k998]

smokes you in my I3S your to slow old man

[@Randimzo]

Wtf this is just a normal review. When you put 40k miles in the title we expect mechanical/e issues, maintain costs and etc.

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

It’s a lease what do you expect. Plus if there were mechanical issues I would have mentioned it. There was nothing misleading about this video. Expectations with always foster resentment. I told you real things we experienced.

[@LouSaydus]

Pro tip, dont buy these new unless you feel like throwing 70k away immediately after driving it off the lot.

[@MMAFan20]

They seem like a steal now at 60m with 30k miles of less. I am seriously thinking about getting one. I'm wondering if it will depreciate much further

[@jordanbanko5347]

A B should be interesting to see where they kind of plateau in terms of depreciation. I’d say around 50k-55k. Looking into one of these or an RS7. Decisions decision decisions...

[@pwally2714]

These will be $35-40k in another 1.5 years.

[@aguarnes]

LouSaydus who would be dumb enough to buy it new lmfao you can literally buy these for 60k now with 20000 miles

[@mrbadguysan]

@@aguarnes nobody; they lease it, then the dealer sells it used.

[@squeakD]

I love this car! Incredible how close it is to the concept model. It literally looks like a concept car that’ll never age. Regarding the leather..., denim jeans wear out leather seats, even without large buttons ect.

[@ekotson]

No AM radio is because of interference from the electric motor. Would require excessive shielding to have it.

[@IsaacMirandaTRO]

interesting. didnt know about that

[@CoffeeMadeMeSay]

AM radio = mostly talk radio stations = no thanks

[@whatsup89100]

bullshit the leaf has it.

[@KnowerofThings]

@@libertysound8575 wtf is excessive shielding? its a god dam radio

[@whatsup89100]

@@libertysound8575 so why doesn't the 150000 bmw not have it than, is my point.

[@DwainDwight]

thanks, great review. definitely in for one of these.

[@pv3781]

Regarding the leather... did you clean and condition it monthly? Doesn’t look like it.

[@roysalman6720]

P V it’s pu leather so it’s kinda hard to maintain but still negligent

[@dankurina9191]

They should reinforce the area where you have to enter and exit the car imo.

[@lucasdelossantos8402]

What about reliability? Did it break down on you? Any repairs? Did you need to replace the tires? Was is trouble free?

[@MrJones-cs7lh]

I just drove one today and even after seeing multiple vids of people that own this and I don’t give a single F of the complaints if I had the money to even afford a used one would totally buy it!

[@CrazyOneToo]

A car that special with a back seat. Thumbs way up!!!

[@Johnholmjewelry]

Man, not gunna lie I thought your videos were gunna suck but yours have been the best car review videos I’ve seen on KZbin and that’s impressive because that’s all I watch

[@K03sport]

so, I take it you aren't gonna buyout the i8 after the lease? I'm not gonna go find all of the other videos you did on this car, so what has it gone to the dealer for other than routine service? How long did it sit at the dealer to get fixed? What would have been the cost(s) of said fixes if out of warranty? Will the i8 make a good 2nd or 3rd owner car 5 or 6 years down the road? Since you seem to be into Hybrid "supercars", why not seek out the new NSX. Similar concept, but with only 2 seats and report back with the differences btwn it and the i8. And since your leasing it anyways, no biggie, right?

[@LAD241]

I love the BMW I8. My dad has one. I haven’t been lucky enough to drive it but I have moved it in the drive. It sounds so good and looks amazing. I find it a little bit hard to get in and out of and there isn’t much room when cleaning the inside but overall I like the car

[@Denis_Klim]

Did you run a mile before recording the intro

[@nishants2691]

it's not a supercar first of all. it's an hybrid sports car/ gt car.

[@CR-qu5jc]

I like the car and they are cheap used. Any insight on reliability? You mentioned the door, why were you getting locked in or out?

[@maxtepli2211]

I have heard that these i8s have had a ton of transmission issues. Have you experienced any?

[@ragazzi25]

definitely wouldn't mind having one of those in my garage...

[@kumaransuppiah3906]

Very genuine reviews 👍🏼

[@eknoke01]

It’s a sharp looking car 🚘

[@Vee3000]

I have a black and red one OH My gawd ITS AMAZING O

[@adibchyy]

They should refresh this car as an EV. It just looks like the car of the future.

[@OutRAjious]

and normal doors …!

[@lorenmorgan2010]

I've never had those issues in my three years of ownership... And I have 35k miles on mine...and you just fall in the seat to get in and use the door handle and pull yourself out...any mid engine or rear engine car is gonna have issues with heat next to storage compartments.

[@jabukakruska9423]

lorenmorgan2010 what color is your interior

[@lorenmorgan2010]

Vip Coconut the light beige color black seat belts

[@oeiras99]

What happens when someone parks too close in a parking lot? Those doors seem to swing out pretty far.

[@yunggirbaud3191]

I’m looking to buy a 2015 model with very low mileage less than 10k. Any typical problems I should not be looking forward to? I’m looking to buy an extended warrantee but not sure if anyone provides them for major problems on the vehicle. Please get back to me I would greatly appreciate it thanks

[@robertheydorn853]

Total agree have had mine 3 years 45k miles and only had to change the tires ... mommy bought him his and it’s not a Ferrari ... poor baby

[@sorinturle4599]

The car looks insane good, indeed, very futuristic.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The back end of the car is flat out ugly to my eyes.

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

How much was your lease payment with insurance? I’m trying to get an idea before I make the plunge.

[@blongthao7956]

Thanks for the info about the car. I didn't understand how or why its was a I3 on dealership detail.

[@luxurycarrental2713]

Great review!

[@maxnix346]

Interesting review. Is the leather Dakota or Merlino grade? I notice that you do not seem to retract your seat all the way back on its track before exiting or entering. That promotes the bolster wear your are experiencing on any BMW with M Sport seating. Interesting you did not comment on the 6AT. 8 speed would be super nice. So would version 7 of iDrive. I do appreciate the space behind the front seats that is abolished when the roadster is chosen. 911 do not have much,nor do Hurracan. Your next renter? For more commodious space for only two, the Portfino. For an alternative hybrid with even less storage space but more emotion, the Acura NSX.

[@tiagomatos1484]

Im definitely getting one next year, can’t wait

[@marz1054]

Same here! But I’m getting a used 2015 one in great condition.

[@junaidahmed8519]

They will go up in value now since it has been discontinued just like all rare bmws

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Maybe the ones left in 10 years when they other 80% are being parted out because you can't find batteries and other weird essential parts to keep them running. Until then, used ones will be dirt cheap.

[@junaidahmed8519]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH will be very easy to find batteries in the future. May even be able to convert to 100% battery since Germany is required to go green by 2030.

[@maryrafuse3851]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH The technology will be so surpassed in 10 years. I really don't know that the i8 will increase much in value. I know that the mass produced 64 & one half to 66 Mustang has greatly increased in value. And you can get the parts & body shell to all but build a new one. I doubt that the i8 will have this support.

[@operamatthew]

it’s a great driving and sounding car

[@bellabugs]

Saw one yesterday in a Carl's Jr. drive thru at 3am. It's a beautiful car to be honest. I'm not a bmw fan either lol

[@joshjefferson2360]

I traded in my 2017 protonic red i8. I put 5000 miles on it in one month. I drove the shit outa it. But i couldn't hang when a scion xb passed me on highway 8 headed into Cali. Love my F80 I traded for.

[@ashemamuur8310]

Highway 8.....headed INTO CALI? From where?

[@joshjefferson2360]

Texas. Drove from so Cal to Texas and stayed for a month in that damn car.

[@ashemamuur8310]

@@joshjefferson2360 wow...... At least it saves at the pump 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@realkingrav2265]

Josh Jefferson What do you do for a living?

[@joshjefferson2360]

I’m just a high school drop out, livin life man. I gamble too. Real estate is the best way to make money, casino is the best way to loose it!

[@bossbabeblue8942]

My husband insists you can fit a carseat . 🤦🏻‍♀️we rented it today to test it out and it’s a lovely car for a couple but definitely not a family weekend car.

[@georgemacdonald5282]

Great video and really great camera work, thankyou from george

[@BIMMERZEITT]

great car, great presentation

[@Mr_Glenn]

If someone parks within 1 feet of the side of the car, you can't get out. Or is that not true?

[@susanwierzba4472]

I absolutely love this car. I have had it for 6 months and it is exactly what a 50yo woman would drive. Sexy, fast (but drivable), and everyone whether I know them or not wants to take pictures with it. For a guy this would totally be a chick magnet. The interior is so comfortable and like he said, everything is very accessible. I found an easy way to get in and out of the car so that’s not an issue. When you say ‘touring,’ this automobile is the epitome of touring. You want to go on a long trip in this vehicle. I think the good far outweigh the bad. Plenty of fahrfegnugen! Try it out! It’s a hell of a lot of fun and will stay in my arsenal for years to come!

[@Ap32023]

Any major issues yet or anything crazy expensive maintenance wise?

[@flyguy4211]

I just rented the same one in the video except a convertible! OMG! I'm hooked! This car is fking amazing!

[@pwally2714]

@luxuryliveson have you had any mechanical stuff go wrong? Are these mostly reliable

[@jesusluna1237]

pwally2714 they are reliable

[@Ramuis166]

Did you notice any battery degradation over time? just out of curiosity

[@creditjoshy]

How many repairs did it need?

[@hashperi2752]

It comes with a dryer!!! 😂 not gona lie that a neat feature!!! Lool!

[@Commentator541]

I love it! It's definitely a future classic.

[@jaxxbrat2634]

Im surprised the seats are not better quality...had fabulous leather Recaros in my S4.. Solar oven trunk?

[@dj2000lbs]

if you had a car parked 12" from your car would you be able to open the doors?

[@ItachiUchiha-xk1fr]

What’s the maintenance cost doh ? For atleast 1 year

[@bearcubfan00gmail41]

That trunk made me laugh lol. It’s like a large glovebox. But, sexy car....sexy driver 😉

[@erickibarra5516]

Looking to get one in the future....how was the maintance? Enjoyed your video

[@rohanrohan6625]

What do you do for living?

[@eddiesu2]

i drove the tesla model S and bmw i8 today i love the driving experience of the tesla....but the look of the i8 is wayyyyyyyy cooler than the tesla cant decide which one to buy yet.

[@eddiesu2]

At the end I bought the Porsche Cayenne platinum edition 😂😂😂

[@armardillotektexas3670]

sue shut up

[@realkingrav2265]

lucky trader You could have got so much attention in a i8...

[@heforshe1764]

Sorry Sir, 09:02 09:20 09:35 So Sorry to say that dozen of.... everybodys knew that, you know, well, due to say: sleepy under long time despite of long, more correctly which can't clearly express as English itself doesn't do the job carry a proper term or whatever to tell extractly what that should be like in distance, not long nor far just like le man24, its within just that tiny circle but still are long and far way, so, better describe correctly measurement in Time, then not necessary far away but too long in both(not just only Both-not using the wordings Both as this is the FATAL Weakness of the design of any languages same as everything make from people) tri-distance+time+..., all asking Comfort inside including when listen to music in it which is of course not mainly designed for the wheel handler who mustn't being distracted, everyone knows, well, so, can't be disturbed at the same time if long time concentrate on one thing say one way then boring makes sleepy especially working class or personal far away trip, so, designed to keep Awakening And Awareness AAA the Must for avoiding.....everybody knows, right, if no alert from or not enough bewareness etc. from The THIRD which even has insurance which is actually for and has no meanings at all, okay, Sir, the new electric era is a solution more correctly a chance to change Bad habbit just like to silently operating the wheel(without distract and disturbed, yes, but)also till fall in a condition of feeling tire then eye skill fell heavy after long trip and time, then, BOW, it will be too late to keep window opened not practically in snowy icy cold or bad or extreme weather conditions which wheel handler also can't see a damx thing as well, by no means no sound will or to provide enough warning for being consciousness if fell sleepy till fall into it no matter due to LOW TEMPERATURE or just feeling tired by oneself, the only Natural plus 100% sure, won't fail unless its already did fail by itself, right? just like the oldies said, keeping the sword is equal to keeping safety whenever in forest or jungle in old days, so, the most sure way to do this is also from the most naturally and whatever people describe it, THIS is for life safely in long run, long way, long time,(tri-run way time) or in ILLNESS or home ACCIDENT like cut in kitchen with bleeding whatever which always causing wounder in comma that means fall in not just sleepy but also can't control so well but has=need to be drive by ownself to get to safety zone like medical treatment things like that, so no matter under which circumstance, same, Life Safety go FIRST for ALL including passengers who can be VIPS like Bosses no matter who, family members or whoever everyone considered for, here on this issue, show off here is on its' LONG as like a space journey which sure awaken in safety as long as the journey itself goes no matter travelling to even nowhere, no target, whenever, whatever situation people facing like feeling down sometimes like go out for a trip kind of things like that, human like designed before Full A.I.'s arrival in safety generated and come from yet pure machine only, Sorry about this Inadequacy, A Deep Apology for compromising in choosing from comfort in short or .....

[@evetsotibac]

How do you have a vanity plate on a leased vehicle in California?

[@lilblue101]

Hallo yes 911: yes hi look i lock myself inn my car ... 911: okay hold please LOL

[@Alvaro-em1dj]

Bruder du hast komplett verkackt

[@BeesonsCars]

The lease deals are killer on the i8 apparently. What would you expect someone to pay for an average lease on the i8?

[@epicswirl]

Im definitely getting one

[@epicswirl]

Not new of course it would be a waste 😂

[@MrDIAMONDCOR]

You are a natural 👏👏👏

[@slash11lipo]

To be honest with you, that was a good review.

[@scottymsu6063]

I second a Yugo, they are exotic, interesting and can be fun depending... yeah get a Yugo for a replacement

[@Timtimzi]

I’m glad when reviews actually talk about legitimate bad stuff about a product.

[@Timtimzi]

Surprisingly these thave dropped greatly in price.. Might consider getting one used. I'm glad I came across this channel to hear about the ugly aspects of owning this car though!

[@realkingrav2265]

@timtimzi - Cycling and Gaming its for 60k now. You think its worth it?

[@mariodacosta3317]

Nice review D, honest genuine no BS. Up yours to all the haters out there

[@Mebirduwine]

the intro getting out... no one looks cool getting in or out lmao

[@dior9568]

I really love this car

[@jabukakruska9423]

I dont get that turning radius is so bad. Usually BMW’s have amazing turning radius

[@saltyaces8621]

lol why so many dislikes? this guy is giving his *honest* account of the car and tbh, these are the sorts of people i want to hear from if i ever consider buying a car like this... how is it to live with and clock up 10k+ miles....

[@elvindelacrur2160]

I enjoyed watching your videos. I'm planning on buying a BMW I8. If you decide to buy or lease another automobile l would suggest Ferrari Portofin.

[@samlung2724]

My friend bought one last year. Broke down the 2nd day so the dealer gave him another one and 2 months later electronics were failing and also it left him stranded on the freeway. Dealer just said they will give his money back lol

[@ItachiUchiha-xk1fr]

What’s the maintenance cost on one of these for 1 year ?

[@antoniogriffin7135]

That's what I'm wondering.. Any updates?

[@ModComSol]

I have a 2016 i8 Pure Impulse. It's been like any other car so it depends-do it yourself oil change/oil filter once a year = $55+$35. Dealer = $250+$150 if done at the same time. Similar with spark plugs. Fuel is really less expensive with 34MPG km the city and 40 on the highway. Unless you drive WOT which I do several drives a week because the car is so much fun flooring through a turn=priceless.

[@ItachiUchiha-xk1fr]

Steve M thank you good sir 🙏🏼 . Congrats on the car 💪🏻

[@bn7467]

Itachi Uchiha if you have to ask it means you can’t afford it you waster

[@ItachiUchiha-xk1fr]

B N that’s your point of view , but it’s all about mindset. Before I buy something I will do my research on it , it’s the smart thing to do .

[@llavero5]

Its not fake sound, is the real sound transmitted by conduits to the cabin, using the speakers because they are strategically placed for better acoustics, ¡but not because it is a sound they are playing!

[@HeidiandFranny]

We just bought one. We are curious how you got locked in or out. How low was the charge?

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

Heidi and Franny's Garage Hey there! Nope not really sure why but it’s only locked us out a couple times.

[@HeidiandFranny]

Luxury Lives On I know, you are probably tired if yours by now. We are super excited about ours. Thanks for the reply. The mystery continues. I assume you used the emergency latch to get out?

[@algreentube]

Very cool video

[@xxpeshmergexx9417]

Do u still have it and its for sell?

[@The07059]

is the emulate sound can be turn it off???

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

Andrew Tan no

[@wicho99w99]

Did u got a new car? What about a gt3 rs?

[@ruk2023--]

BMW door openers go all the damn time. I have had them fail on a 3 series (multiple), 5 series, X5 and 7 series. I imagine they use the same on the i8 as the rest of their range.

[@i_am_Legin]

I just bought a blue one i love it

[@trapsarentgay4195]

legin nigellus I’m proud of you

[@antoniogriffin7135]

Did you have any repairs done yet?

[@i_am_Legin]

@@antoniogriffin7135 honestly i did have to take it to the dealership for multiple different technological issues. But so far they were all just small computer malfunctions. Although irritating i still like the car. I just don't reccomend anyone buy one passed its warranty period. I did have to get new brakes and new tires. Which were pretty pricey. Brake job came up to around 2400. And the tires i dont remember exactly but i wanna say i paid around 1200 or so

[@SixMoth]

Very nice 👌

[@christophermalone4348]

I wait and get for 20,000

[@i_am_Legin]

Goodluck lol maybe in 2030

[@antoniogriffin7135]

It's fairly cheap now!

[@Cryptosifu]

Same

[@ragazzi25]

yeah right!

[@kuyarides]

idk how much they were but you can get one for 50k now

[@DorvilMG]

What did you guys get?

[@dobbiesmith8314]

can you turn the fake engine noise off....?

[@PrinceH7144]

You could fit your worst enemy in the truck good I'm sold I'm getting a i8!!

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Truck? This is a car.

[@rockyfs1]

Definitely not a daily driver. I love mine. It does attract attention. It is before its time. Discouraged by the loss in value over time. If I had to decide whether to buy or not, would have wait knowing what I know now. I can handle the chore of getting in and out of the i8. If you wear new jeans, they will leave a blue stain on the white leather. Was able to remove the stain only by using Chemical Guys Inner Clean. I love the thrill of driving the i8, and will be in my garage for a very long time. I am a former Toyota Supra owner (4 different models) and BMW 650i owner.

[@christiandominguez4656]

Do you still have it ?

[@jansenwilder1335]

Bro. How did you overcome the fault of the doors not being able to open ? Please tell us the remedy. Many thanks.

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

Jansen Wilder Homestly it would just go away after un-locking and locking the car from the key several times. Thanks for watching!

[@toddkonifka595]

Does your i8 not have the manual door release on the interior?

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

Todd Konifka It does but the car would lock us out of it sometimes meaning no access to the release

[@tatemushroom1002]

I dont even own a car and here i am watching a i8 review Damn my expensive taste

[@phat-b6771]

Looks like something Marty would drive from back to the future

[@bgsound2721]

The i8 may become the new DeLorean

[@earlessroboticcat7102]

Can you do the U-Turn again but in a 2020 version?

[@raymondwong2521]

Try Panamera, since you ask for idea regarding your next lease. I have enjoyed your review of the i8. Thanks. I am thinking of getting a off-lease i8. Call me cheapskate, but I like saving some cash for other investments. A gently used and certified i8 with extended warranty from BMW will be nice.

[@Evapors]

facts.

[@maiho5265]

So. If ur. At a gas station geting. Gas how is ur passenger going. To. Get. Off if. The door goes up

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

I wish they'd keep making them for a couple more years. Now they're going to start going back up in value. I was hoping they'd hit $45k used.

[@antoniogriffin7135]

They won't go up... Mechanics don't wanna repair these vehicles.. Some can't even touch them 😐

[@gsprings43]

@@antoniogriffin7135 Yep,you would have to take that car to a bmw dealership to be fixed,not a lot of these out there,so parts should be very expensive

[@alvinceljaj9326]

What’s EM badge?

[@robp8218]

"This car is very fun"🤣🤣

[@JakeChilds]

Such a georgeous car ! Love that it's hybrid also

[@hitty9]

Stop with the hybrid please! You're going to die without driving this car make one bit of difference to the planet or any other human or animal. And one more thing; the planet is just a big ball of rock and mud. We are not here to serve the planet by saving it, and the planet is not here to serve us, except to allow us to use the chemicals and elements we scratch out of the mud beneath us. We will not go on forever, and the planet will eventually turn into a big ball of frozen mud. Now get on with your life and prosper!

[@Zm4rf]

idiotic question, but can you even stall park in this? how do you use it for day-to-day driving?

[@IfCarsCouldTalk]

Zm4rf Turning radius is terrible but doors surprisingly open in tight spaces

[@mancaveproductions00]

Wow I don't understand how you could complain, just enjoy it jezz.

[@bowtech1020]

Well I wouldn't see being able to not get in it a problem. With the door. But not being able to get out. "trapped in a BMW" stuff of nightmares.