$40,000 vs $2,000 Camera: ARRI Alexa vs LUMIX S5IIX

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Master of Camera

Master of Camera

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@CartyCantDance
@CartyCantDance Жыл бұрын
Proud lumix s5ii owner here: The difference between shooting something for a movie and shooting something else is that movies have more than just the camera involved. Art direction, lighting, actors, plot, etc. that all being said, for solo creators/filmmakers the s5ii/x is a dream come true.
@Kevlexicon
@Kevlexicon Жыл бұрын
how do u fix the moire on the s5ii? my first week with it, and every t shirt has moire and some streetlights flicker. love the features of it otherwise
@CartyCantDance
@CartyCantDance Жыл бұрын
@@Kevlexicon use synchro scan for the light flicker. Different Hz rate in lights to your frame rate/shutter speed. For moire I use a moment cinebloom at 10%, but any light diffusion will basically act as a OLPF or anti aliasing filter. If something is showing as too much moire, then you need to change the angle of light and maybe your lens as well
@ControversialOG
@ControversialOG 9 ай бұрын
gayest comment, who talks like that..."pRoUd OwNR"
@halocinematic3127
@halocinematic3127 8 ай бұрын
@@ControversialOG What a sad salty troll.
@kalanetics
@kalanetics 8 ай бұрын
@@Kevlexicon hire a stylist and perhaps an art producer :)
@joserangelve
@joserangelve 11 ай бұрын
I knew because of the camera A was more stable....but the quality seems the same, at least here in KZbin. Thanks for doing this. I´m receiving my S5IIx this week and I´m so excited!
@purplemonkeyelephant
@purplemonkeyelephant Жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought A was the sharper image, better colour science, better highlights. I assumed it was the Arri. That's wild
@sludgybeast
@sludgybeast Жыл бұрын
That crazy since the highlights are worse, the colors are inaccurate-shifting to teal instead of remaining blue in the sky, brown of bark shifting green and a natural color saturation boost. Sharpness isn't a camera feature past resolution options- the focus is just on a different mark. Try seeing how much you can actually push the grade, DR, and colors in post rather than a stock rec 709 + filmic lut. Its wild that people think think this stacks at all against the Arri. All well, feel free to shoot with your films with the lumix.
@purplemonkeyelephant
@purplemonkeyelephant Жыл бұрын
@sludgybeast Looking at the video on my phone, and a 2nd time, there's definitely more flaws you do notice. But it's not night and day as you suggest. Regarding focus, if it's not sensor related kinda weird that they missed focus so much with the Arri? Anyway, I posted my initial reaction because on first glance I preferred the Lumix footage. It may well be different watching it on an IMAX screen, but on my laptop that was my initial feeling. Arri fan boys might get hurt feelings, but the gap has closed and if you have to pixel peep then that says it all
@MockManor
@MockManor Жыл бұрын
@@purplemonkeyelephant I can barely tell the difference. Which is very exciting. Plus, you can shoot RAW on the Lumix with Atomos. Pushing and pulling colors to your NLE’s delight. The gap has closed, for sure. 💪🏾
@MrCoffis
@MrCoffis 7 ай бұрын
Nah highlights are better on the Arri as it has more DR. It was a give away for me but preferred the grade of the Lumix throughout. Because let’s face it we are not comparing cameras here we are comparing grades.
@themostbeautifulworldever
@themostbeautifulworldever 7 ай бұрын
Same!
@lasha9174
@lasha9174 10 ай бұрын
That is insane... 40,000$ difference... for almost identical look. WOW, Panasonic
@TheRealRichardWong
@TheRealRichardWong Жыл бұрын
Very cool comparison! I can tell camera B is slightly better like dynamic range.. but the difference is just so small. If it's not side by side, i wont be able to tell the difference at all!
@masterofcamera
@masterofcamera Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard! Yeah dynamic range is better, but I’m still really impressed by how close these two look! 🎥🔥 This could be a really good b-roll camera for Arri as well haha, imagine if you use the Real-Time-LUT feature and bake in an Arri Transform LUT into the S5IIX 😮
@TheRealRichardWong
@TheRealRichardWong Жыл бұрын
@@masterofcamera yeah They look very close!! I can't tell which is better in terms of colours.
@skullerhead6150
@skullerhead6150 Жыл бұрын
But have you shot in Prores Raw or Braw with the S5x?@@masterofcamera
@smashicelp
@smashicelp 4 ай бұрын
@@masterofcamera and now the GH7 has Arri Log ;) I can already see that in a S5 III
@JoshChristiane
@JoshChristiane 8 ай бұрын
While B overall is the better image (on most shots) due to increased dynamic range and highlights that bloom less, the difference is honestly negligible. You could very much so film a $200,000,000 budget movie on either camera and get a great look. The biggest differences are much more so going to come down to set quality, location, lighting, sound, technical talent, acting, etc. We are lucky as filmmakers to be in an era where finally good cameras are accessible at a great price.
@watzmaaname
@watzmaaname Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@2012alby
@2012alby Ай бұрын
I have two S5 ii's and its an easy spot, the greens on the lumix have a really natural blue tinge to them. Really good on the skin tones though
@simonfoden1684
@simonfoden1684 Жыл бұрын
"But to make the tests fair we put the Lumix into crop sensor". So a maxxed out Arri vs. a crippled Lumix !!
@watzmaaname
@watzmaaname Ай бұрын
and could you tell immediately which was which? Why don't you rent those cameras and make a comprehensive test? He said it was done for fun, why criticise unnecessarily?
@HenryOrtlip
@HenryOrtlip Жыл бұрын
My favorite video of yours so far. The high end cameras truly are just sports cars at this point. Gareth Edwards filming the creator on the fx3 is another major example of how lenses are now king to all the sensors we have access too. He filmed with the kowa 75mm and used the prototype atlas mercury 42 sprinkled as well.
@timhamlinofficial
@timhamlinofficial Жыл бұрын
I knew A would be the lumix, the IBIS warp is very apparent when you're moving, at first I thought it was opposite but after 2-3 shots in I could tell. I'd say if lumix just dialed in their settings for anamorphic, they'd have something wayyyy killer.
@draysax
@draysax 9 ай бұрын
I think the warp is better on the MFT Lumix cameras
@888berg
@888berg 11 ай бұрын
@4:15 gave it away for me... the dynamic range on that dark branch better in CAM B :) amazing either way
@utkarsh6847
@utkarsh6847 8 ай бұрын
Your right sir but while watching movie im not going to think about the dynamic range of the movie rather will see the acting done by actor and story
@bomj_s_drobovikom
@bomj_s_drobovikom 8 ай бұрын
@@utkarsh6847 It's more for creator, to to show more detail, where it is necessary.
@BootStrapTurnerVideography
@BootStrapTurnerVideography 7 ай бұрын
What is interesting is that with "Emotive Color" LUTs for the S5II/IIX, you can ensure your color graded footage can be interleaved with ARRI Alexa footage, so the S5 series can be used as B cameras along with the ARRI for those wanting multiple camera shots without having to redo the scene for a single ARRI Alexa. Now I don't have the newer S5II/IIX, but continue to use my S5 OG. Like the ARRI, I use MF Cine and Anamorphic lenses and use 5.9K RAW via HDMI to my Atomos Ninja V and Atomos Connect, which provides me Camera-to-Cloud features beyond Lumix's latest firmware upgrade.
@AlreadyTiredOfYou
@AlreadyTiredOfYou Жыл бұрын
The very slight muted colors and slight dynamic range were hinting... but it was the sudden wobble (sensor readout) the thing that sold it. Still, really close.
@HussainAl--Khalil
@HussainAl--Khalil 11 ай бұрын
Wow i thought cam A was the alexa. I have the s5ii and am saving up to invest in anamorphic lenses soon. Very encouraging video. I've had the s5ii for about a month and a half and have been loving it so far.
@jaybuckets2153
@jaybuckets2153 10 ай бұрын
I believe lumix are the best when it comes to mirrorless cinema cameras . Been saying that since the S1H . I honestly thought the arri was camera A . I just ordered this camera and waiting on the S1H2 .
@the_black_douglas9041
@the_black_douglas9041 Жыл бұрын
What a great demo! It’s a treat to have a high end pro like you doing these kind of vids!! I have the S5iiX and Sirui anamorphic things. The images you can get…
@TheKiakiraly
@TheKiakiraly 9 ай бұрын
After year in the business, I can confidently say: the camera matters the least, your story, your framing, lighting, using movement in your shots is more important. I recently got a prize for best DOP work at a festival for a film which I shot on a 8-9 year old camera.
@1001Hobbies
@1001Hobbies 9 ай бұрын
I recognized A being the Lumix pretty quickly only because of the additional sharpness. If the sharpness was turned down a little, or if a softening filter was put on the lens, I don't think I could tell a difference. Knowing this change would bring the images even closer together I can imagine everyone having an incredibly hard time telling the difference. Even here as it is, there is not a thousands and thousands of dollars difference in the footage. At 4:39 I actually prefer the Lumix shot.
@PrimeAtl
@PrimeAtl Жыл бұрын
One word wow! I can’t believe that the s5ii is that much similar to the Arri! Great vid bro
@CorentinHarbelot
@CorentinHarbelot 9 ай бұрын
IBIS makes it easy to spot which is which, Arri looks really softer too, more analogic somewhat. I've a S5II too, so I know it quiet well now.
@Murofly
@Murofly Жыл бұрын
The shot with the yellow jacket and the grass (4:05) gave it away for me, those greens are just so multi coloured and lifelike, but also something about the lighting is more vivid in the alexa, maybe dynamic range idk the technicals but it captures the nuances of lighting much better I think there's quite a significant difference, but both look amazing.
@nicholasboule5134
@nicholasboule5134 Жыл бұрын
The organic nature of the motion and highlight roll off of B cam is so magical. And not being eye bleeding sharp makes it the better image for storytelling.
@Archis_Anupam
@Archis_Anupam Жыл бұрын
The wobble in moving shots due to Lumix S5ii rolling shutter and perhaps the IBIS is the only give away. Anyone with a keen eye should be able to pick that out. Otherwise there is nothing else i could tell apart.
@soundanddeliver
@soundanddeliver Жыл бұрын
Yup, it's clear from clip one which is the Lumix. much harder to tell if the IBIS was off though, especially with it being mounted to the Arri and having that weight to stabilise it. Either way, they both look great and the Lumix performs like a serious contender.
@daniellrodriguezs
@daniellrodriguezs Жыл бұрын
I was about to make this comment! Hahaha the IBIS was the only think. But apart from that you can’t really tell.
@MoonshotTim
@MoonshotTim Жыл бұрын
I preferred Camera A the whole time. Blown away to know it was the s5iix. Either Arri cameras are overpriced or the s5iix is a steal at its price.
@odyssey.studios
@odyssey.studios 9 ай бұрын
A bit of both. The Lumix S5ii is hands down the best camera on the market in terms of value for money. What you're paying for with the Arri is: a world class cinema camera used to shoot all the biggest films, with all the features required for a camera team to operate and assist (camera team of 3-4 is industry standard practice), and therefore the ability to charge far more for your services. Along with higher dynamic range, inbuilt ND, native PL mount and most important of all... no IBIS wobble as can be seen on the S5ii. That being said, I have the S5ii and it's brilliant.
@MoonshotTim
@MoonshotTim 9 ай бұрын
@@odyssey.studios You can always get a PL adaptor and turn off the ibis. Only thing you can’t change is the dynamic range. But honestly s5iix is pretty flexible with dynamic range.
@ShellyBHollis
@ShellyBHollis Жыл бұрын
I shoot only Lumix, I can tell by the sharpness of A it was the S5. When I used a Komodo for a project it was soft and yes the colors were great but I learned real quick everything is a tool at this point. Many camera that are out dating back at least 5 years now are so capable.
@shaunmaddox
@shaunmaddox Жыл бұрын
Although I have not used to a Arri I could tell the difference. This is due to the sharper image and the S5 mark 2 image stabilization. Quite impressive for internal processing. I’m not sure if it’s the image stabilization or Kodak, but the footage appears choppy on Camera A. I do believe most viewers will have trouble distinguishing the difference. Great video!👍
@jeremy_woods
@jeremy_woods 11 ай бұрын
I could tell B was the Alexa. It really has 2 traits that always stand out: Vivid, almost “blueish” greens. (You see it in foliage) - and highlights that don’t burn; They just fade out really nice. Other than that, no.. not a 40k difference!
@watzmaaname
@watzmaaname Ай бұрын
💯. For me it was the IBIS and the highlights at 3:39. But he color matched them extremely well!
@lucasbarros5937
@lucasbarros5937 7 ай бұрын
They both look great! The S5IIX is a little more obvious to tell apart because of the IBIS and the Alexa has a little more dynamic range that’s most easily noticeable in the highlights. But I’m impressed how well the S5IIX holds up! I’m curious though how much more freedom you get with ARRI files vs Lumix.
@Mike_Mandigo
@Mike_Mandigo Жыл бұрын
I got it wrong. Thought the top was the Arri. Recently just got the S5iiX, Thx for the vid.
@AndrewJosephKeith
@AndrewJosephKeith Жыл бұрын
Yeah I guessed wrong. Pretty incredible what Lumix is doing. I have the original S5 and I love it.
@garypranzo9334
@garypranzo9334 7 ай бұрын
I could tell due to the warping in camera A. I wonder if the new Open Gate 6K with the HIGH IBIS crop on Super 35 lenses trick will eliminate the warping. It did for me on non-anamorphic lenses.
@FlyingJackalope
@FlyingJackalope Жыл бұрын
Lot more detail in the shadows and less contrasty on B. More bokeh and swirl on B as well but that may have been aided by the difference in focal length. Oddly, B felt more like full frame than A. B had a lot more DOF than A. A is still totally usable but might require a couple of things to make it feel more like B. Probably if you were not shooting in crop mode and open gate it might feel closer, but the dynamic range difference was definitely noticeable.
@nonamemusique
@nonamemusique 9 ай бұрын
It's crazy how similar the two cameras look. But you can tell the difference by the sharpness and the dynamic range. The ARRI is sharp but not too sharp, and the dynamic range of the ARRI cameras is of course incredibly good. You can see that if you compare the two videos in the highlights, the ARRI has more detail in the highlights than the s5IIX. All in all, however, a very impressive and above all surprising performance from the Lumix. Good thing I bought it ;D
@mattiagl
@mattiagl 9 ай бұрын
The image quality in the comparison is pretty similar, but what gives it away are the artifacts in the angles produced by the stabilization in the lumix. It can clearly be seen that the image bends in weird ways when the camera is not fixed. Would be interesting a comparison without the stabilization. Also, the dynamic range is clearly different in some high contrast scenes, and it also helps to understand wich one is wich to a degree, but probably only because I've worked a lot with Arri cameras
@jespersichlau4343
@jespersichlau4343 Жыл бұрын
If you look at the highlights it's easy to tell them apart, and at one point there was some rolling shutter wobbling, but as for colors I couldn't tell them apart.
@AndreBerg99
@AndreBerg99 10 ай бұрын
Easy to find out… A is the Lumix… has the much more stable picture… and (for me) the much more pleasant one… (filming myself with Lumix since launch of the GH4 ;-)
@semajtheprod
@semajtheprod 10 ай бұрын
3:46 was a dead giveaway. On B you can see the shingles whereas A I noticed the clipping on the white wall.
@koomar341
@koomar341 Жыл бұрын
The Lumix looks great, but I guessed it right! You could see better dynamic range in the highlights, or is it the highlight rolloff on the Alexa. Also, for some reason there was some stabilizer wobble in some of the Lumix shots, while the Alexa of course looks like no stabilization was done. Colors are very similar, but a bit better on the skintone with the Alexa. The Alexa is hella old at this point, so I'm glad to see cheaper cams matching and beating it in some respects! Awesome comparison
@RoniAstrachan
@RoniAstrachan 9 ай бұрын
I would imagine a test under more extreme lighting conditions, with deep shadows and blistering harsh highlights would have shown a bigger difference... but either way the similarity is incredible. I've been shooting with Panasonic/Lumix for almost a decade and love the color science. Did my own side by side between my EVA1 and Arri Amira and much like this test it was almost impossible to tell them apart.
@cornellouis
@cornellouis 8 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see how BRAW from the lumix holds up against arri. IBIS jello gives it away but if you stay away from fast action and high from rates, the s5iix looks great.
@brendanlister883
@brendanlister883 Жыл бұрын
great comparison brother, I could tell the cameras apart (But barely)- possibly because i look at s5iix footage everyday, but it was bloody close. DR was one give away, but again barely could tell the difference. as you said it's all glass really, the lumix cameras hold up really well.
@AndyGwynn-r3s
@AndyGwynn-r3s Жыл бұрын
The biggest "giveaway" was the highlight detail on the white house siding in the second shot, which is why I guessed that B was the Alexa. Dynamic range on B seemed better in most of the beginning shots, but there were a few later shots where the sky seemed clipped on both - maybe due to the grading and KZbin compression. Not sure. Greens in grass also seemed slightly more natural for B in the rolling hills shot, which was another reason I thought it might be the Alexa. Cool to see just how well the Lumix held up and could be matched pretty close.
@ManelBarros
@ManelBarros Жыл бұрын
Great shots 🔥 but 2 main easy differences to spot: - Dynamic Range (B better); - Warp on the sensor stabilization (which is bad on the S5II);
@watzmaaname
@watzmaaname Ай бұрын
Yes, and great test. Enjoyed this!
@MichaelAres
@MichaelAres 9 ай бұрын
I guessed correctly on the Arri where the biggest giveaway for me was the dynamic range in the sky. They just seemed to be much more detail and I know that those cameras have superior dynamic range.
@PurpleHearts0
@PurpleHearts0 10 ай бұрын
Both pleasing images honestly the stabilization is what gave it away for me. I don't need a 80k body just a 20k lens system 😂
@AcharyaPlusGATEAEJE
@AcharyaPlusGATEAEJE 8 ай бұрын
Cam A has that Digital Sharpness in it.. Arri is a professional cine line camera that ads filmic Softness in the image to get the cine look
@XIGuyIX
@XIGuyIX Жыл бұрын
I figured B was the Arri. Not because of any talent or experience. But this is what stood out to me. Camera B had a more "natural" look. The colours also looked more natural, the greens were deeper and subtle, where as camera A looked oversaturated and almost cartoony. The very noticeable thing to me was the highlights. The dynamic range just seemed superior in image B. There looked like a loss of image in the skies for camera A, whereas B seemed to have a better roll-off and delineation between sky and cloud. You can capture beautiful images with both of these cameras.
@ThatGuyOverThereWeird
@ThatGuyOverThereWeird Жыл бұрын
on a new MacBook Pro, I cant see the differences. They both look like shot on a cinema cam.
@kai.05
@kai.05 11 ай бұрын
S5iix owner. The arri definitely wins with that insane dynamic range, but not by a lot, and not very noticeably either...
@timekeepermedia5142
@timekeepermedia5142 Жыл бұрын
I'm extremely confused how any "filmmaker" would be so confused as to which camera is which..took me about 3 seconds to figure it out. You can also see the jello effect from the anamorphic stabilization in the wide landscape shots.... It's also much harsher on the skintones, ESPECIALLY on the couch scenes. I'm a Lumix fan but you definitely get what you pay for with the alexa my god.
@thejackoss
@thejackoss Жыл бұрын
Agreed. You can also see very easily how the highlights look much better on the Alexa. That was one of my giveaways, but i'm working almost on a daily basis with ARRI cameras so I guess my eyes are more trained.
@Eli-mh7nh
@Eli-mh7nh Жыл бұрын
hahaha agree, once get familiar w alexa's dynamic range, it's hard to go back
@jdsmedia
@jdsmedia Жыл бұрын
The only reason i could guess is because the Lumix was consistently sharper. Other than that, in all seriousness, i had a hard time telling them apart.
@KevinvanDiest
@KevinvanDiest Жыл бұрын
thanks for the comp. Really interesting. It was quite obvious though, seeing the warb in the S5IX stabilisation and the less dynamic range (also the Lumix seems to be sharper). Still very very proud of Lumix, being this close. You probably shouldn't have used IS to make the comp even more similar. I do prefer GH6 with anamorphic because then you can use open gate 4:3 instead of 3:2 ...3:2 combined with 1.6x ana is personally a bit to tight.
@thebunn
@thebunn 9 ай бұрын
Both cameras look phenomenal.
@thedudebroshow
@thedudebroshow 9 ай бұрын
It’s so obvious from the get go which camera is which. Arri has texture to their image and that’s unmatched. Also the motion looks super filmic compared to mirrorless cameras which looks super digital and video like.
@ninerlives
@ninerlives Жыл бұрын
Again, it’s not JUST about the image. It’s about its utility as a tool on set, workflow, etc. There are many valid reasons that professional high-budget productions use expensive cameras, even if the image is perceived as “just as good” at a glance.
@terry8965
@terry8965 9 ай бұрын
I was SURE that the "A" footage was the Arri, and was starting to feel a little sad that I couldn't pop for the expensive Arri - Thanks for making it easier for me to convince myself that it was actually a smart move to buy the S5IIX (even though it was really too expensive for my skill level).
@dp_zee
@dp_zee Жыл бұрын
It's not just the image or color that determines the price difference . One has arriraw, the other doesn't, one is built to have onboard 12/24v power (lemo), sdi ports, timecode, robust body that can be used and abused on many productions... ECT ecr
@omara6725
@omara6725 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, I’ve bought the GH5 & S5X because of you 😜. BTW Julia is your best model ✅
@Cinnamonicecream-ek6cs
@Cinnamonicecream-ek6cs 10 ай бұрын
The stabilization was a dead give away! Thanks for the comparison.
@ShangleLP
@ShangleLP Жыл бұрын
What's your experience with the hdmi delay? I find it difficult to work with it for focus pulling for example
@watzmaaname
@watzmaaname Ай бұрын
Great test! The color match job was flawless. The IBIS and dynamic range on couple of shots were a giveaway, and yet it shows what one can do if they know what they're doing. I have seen incredible imagery and grading done with 8 bit footage from entry-level cameras and real lousy, unattractive footage captured with cameras like the RED Komodo.
@BenDevery
@BenDevery 8 ай бұрын
Bro … this is such an EPIC comparison 😮 incredible.
@samv2777
@samv2777 10 ай бұрын
Surprisingly very good footage from 5D iiX
@Deksvilm
@Deksvilm Жыл бұрын
the main thing i noticed that cam B have more pleasant skintone. at the most shots, but not every. But i think a little colorgrade may fix that difference... So its very close)
@EmberSkyMedia
@EmberSkyMedia 9 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see some SOOC (straight out of camera) footage between the two in order to compare what was shot vs. final edit.
@capionstudio
@capionstudio Жыл бұрын
I could tell immediately on my Samsung Ark, but on anything less it would be very difficult to see the difference. The dead give aways were the over sharpening of the S5X, and the warping on the edges of the frame from the IBIS. The thing with Arri I believe is their OLPF. Their footage is just "smooth" but detailed is the only way to describe it. This is a macro level observations though on a 55 inch massive curved monitor maybe 2 arms length from my face haha. Point is - on a lesser screen, or even the footage being independent, it doesn't matter really (i.e. the FX3 used on the Creator). Nice video!
@mraw_prime
@mraw_prime 2 ай бұрын
What is the référence of all your rig support? 😮
@tjmassey23
@tjmassey23 2 ай бұрын
hey the lens is called Kowa 2x Anamorphic ? what adapter do you use for the lumix
@masterofcamera
@masterofcamera 2 ай бұрын
Hey pretty sure that was the Sigma adapter
@spec-productions5733
@spec-productions5733 Жыл бұрын
I was able to figure out which was which, but not by color. The giveaway was IBIS artifacts that were visible on one of the longer shots. Either it was stabilization, or rolling shutter that gave it away. As for color, they were so closely matched, I couldn't get insight on which was which.
@juliustubbsDP
@juliustubbsDP Жыл бұрын
Can tell the arri was b based on sharpness. The Arri is more natural the mirrorless cameras. Every test ive seen that involves a Arri and mirrorless camera the mirrorless is always sharper. The reason you pick a arri over any other camera is the look you get without effort. I own a bunch of cameras but that Arri is buttery.
@samtelford1792
@samtelford1792 Жыл бұрын
I got it wrong, super surprised great tests 👏🏼
@spinthma
@spinthma Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison, the lumix to me looks clearer, more favorable to me.
@companyofwarriors6353
@companyofwarriors6353 10 ай бұрын
It was pretty obvious that Camera A was the Lumix because I could see the warping from the image stabilization. I thought the skin tones looked better on the Arri, which is typical. Even though I shoot with mostly Panasonic cameras, I wish their skin tones were better. I much prefer Olympus's color science, but the video options on Olympus cameras just don't cut it.
@SlawekOsso
@SlawekOsso 10 ай бұрын
It was easy because panasonic has some warping/jello effect, still quite close to arri!
@dantesutton_dp
@dantesutton_dp Жыл бұрын
I was able to tell that camera b was the alexa, i own one so there are certain things/quirks i was looking for colorwise... But once graded they are pretty close
@onlinetraderucom
@onlinetraderucom Жыл бұрын
Lumix S5 2x is truly a small Alexa. The arri evokes the same delight as the bmcc 2.5k and bmpcc og once did. It's especially great with L-mount because you can use super sharp sirui lenses. For example, if you use softer full-frame cinema lenses, you will not be able to tell the difference between 2.8k and 6k resolution. It's a pity that open gate 6k is only possible using atomos nindza
@masterofcamera
@masterofcamera Жыл бұрын
6k open gate can be recorded internally 😉 s5iix is a beast🎥👌
@onlinetraderucom
@onlinetraderucom Жыл бұрын
@@masterofcamera Unfortunately, you cannot record 6k open gate on an ssd at maximum quality.
@OrigEntertainmentOfficial
@OrigEntertainmentOfficial Жыл бұрын
Once Panasonic upgrades their EVA and S1H it's going to be really awesome.
@ThatGuyOverThereWeird
@ThatGuyOverThereWeird Жыл бұрын
Were you using in camera ProRes HQ for the S5iix footage? would the difference be way better using a Video Assist?
@BryceMiguelWilliams
@BryceMiguelWilliams Жыл бұрын
I could tell what the Arri was by looking at the highlight roll-off. However, it's a super close call and not that much noticeable, which is exciting. It's just that the Arri is a tank and can take a beating much more. You are paying for the best tool possible in all areas, not just image quality. The image quality gap is closing year after year. Durability will reign Supreme in cameras at the Arris price level though. Great video and comparison.
@Bunta1987qwerty
@Bunta1987qwerty Жыл бұрын
Camera B seems to have an extra 2 stops of dynamic range, if not more. Otherwise, they both look great.
@brandonklemets2958
@brandonklemets2958 Жыл бұрын
The highlight rolloff is a dead givaway. I wonder if the Lumix would fair better if you CST it to Arri log C3 and play with curves to really match the rolloff. Great test otherwise. I could watch a feature made on either.
@resonatesmedia
@resonatesmedia 10 ай бұрын
Very good.. graded so closely. I guessed camera A for s5iix. But not because of a quality difference. I just noticed that slight wobble in the corners on one of two shots. It's the same wobble I see on my s5iix.... But it was super minor and my guess wasn't 100% confident 😂😂😂.. great comparison 👏👏
@AndrewJosephKeith
@AndrewJosephKeith Жыл бұрын
A similar video on color grading and matching the colors of these 2 cameras might be interesting.
@popoolaolaoye
@popoolaolaoye Жыл бұрын
It's great that the lumix has that much of quality in it, however, if you have a trained eye, you can clearly see which is which pretty easily
@MasumAustralia
@MasumAustralia 11 ай бұрын
Lumix is a game changer 😮
@jackcpmadden
@jackcpmadden Жыл бұрын
Only reason I knew it was A... I could see the IBIS. Being a Lumix shooter already, I know what to look for haha!
@georgkilianbraunig5877
@georgkilianbraunig5877 10 ай бұрын
the thing that gave it away for me was the skintones... at around 4:30 this is where i think i saw the difference, the other shots are just scary close... so, buy the lumix, and spend the rest on Mentos...
@larszimmermann4793
@larszimmermann4793 Жыл бұрын
I don't get how there is so much clipping on the Arri. What Codecs did you shoot in?
@robertdouble559
@robertdouble559 Жыл бұрын
Camjera A was obviously the Lumix, because of the stabilization more than anything. For some shots I liked the colour and highlights of camera A better, in others I liked camera B better. Goes to how, camera choice is very close to becoming irrelevant. Get good glass. Rent it if you have to for now. The glass is the key.
@247.mp4
@247.mp4 Жыл бұрын
Was hard to see but theres a slight warmer tone in the skintones on the alexa. Thats the signature of Arri.
@Frontigenics
@Frontigenics Жыл бұрын
Wow, yep. I totally thought Camera A was the Alexa. Nice. Although, both were hindered by grading in premiere. Premiere seriously destroys your footage... everything has that 8-bit-tinge to it. It just doesn't dig into the full-range of the colors/DR like Resolve does.
@WillBraswell
@WillBraswell 7 ай бұрын
Besides the DR and color being a little better in B, this is a really close comparison. I did choose correctly because of those differences though. But is is a $40k difference? No chance.
@brianrogers549
@brianrogers549 7 ай бұрын
I picked correctly, only because of IBIS look. Great comparison 😎👍
@Co-Op_Mode
@Co-Op_Mode Жыл бұрын
The rolling shutter gave it away , in the open field I could tell one is a cinema camera & one is a mirrorless camera . thats the only way I realised
@tztzztzuzt3512
@tztzztzuzt3512 Жыл бұрын
To all the technical guys here. There is a slightly dynamic range difference here, and a slightly sharpness difference there I tell you what: There is NO difference. You are to much in your head and you dont feel the footage like a consumer viewer would. A normal consumer would never know what is what. He or she could never say what is better what not and even more if the difference is even for us technicall guys just slightly. So, there is literally NO difference.
@edi18912
@edi18912 Жыл бұрын
HI I currently shoot with an older fuji Xt3 and im looking to upgrade. Im trying to decide between 2 full frame cameras. The new Lumix s5iix or the older Sony A7siii. My use case is video only and im currently focused on realestate videos and some weddings, client work ect. My main concern is for filming real estate in 4k60. What would look better a7siii 4k60 or the lumix s5ii 4k60 cropped? Most high end videographers in the real estate industry use a7siii. Taking everything into account, noise, low light, Dynamic range, image quality ect which is better. My goal to get the best quality for 4k 60 video. Thank you
@spicychilydogs
@spicychilydogs 8 ай бұрын
What is that anamorphic lens used for the Lumix in this video?
@masterofcamera
@masterofcamera 8 ай бұрын
These are the P&S Technic KOWA 2x Anamorphic
@spicychilydogs
@spicychilydogs 8 ай бұрын
@@masterofcamera Say that I am shooting a film. I want the aspect ratio to be 2.35:1. Two options lay in front of me. I can shoot anamorphic or simply add 2.35:1 guide lines to the 3:2 aspect ratio I shoot in. Is there anything different about these or do they yield the same product?
@officialbrandoncoleman
@officialbrandoncoleman Жыл бұрын
I really thought that Arri Alexa was A the whole time!!! Wooooow 😅😅😅
@KaceyBakerFilms
@KaceyBakerFilms Жыл бұрын
Great video. How did you get your hands on those Kowas?
@masterofcamera
@masterofcamera Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Hired out from Image Zone rental place here in Auckland New Zealand for a commercial we were filming 🎥🎬
@Moriarty2007
@Moriarty2007 9 ай бұрын
Why you don't use a Color Checker to match this cameras?
@ishaanmalhotra3008
@ishaanmalhotra3008 9 ай бұрын
I couldnt tell the difference from image quality/colours, but I can definitely see that B is much more shakier than A.
@oman4229
@oman4229 8 ай бұрын
It could be because AARI’s color profile is naturally more flat but the lumix colors looked better imo
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