40.000KM SERVICE - SYM SYMPHONY ST 200

Donnie my SYM Symphony ST200 has crossed the 40.000 km mark and it's time to get him on the lift for some well deserved maintenance
- Engine oil chance
- Transmission oil change
- Air filter change
- Belt and rollers change
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[@Stalovo]

Hello Alex! Really appreciate the extensive video on your scooter service. I don't have a scooter myself, but it's great to learn something from you and get a basic understanding of servicing a CVT powered 2wheeler :D cheers from Denmark!

[@RideWithAlex]

My pleasure 😁

[@paulh6096]

Really nice. I own a Lance Cali Classic 200i 2024 model and it's basically all the same on my scooter. Thanks for the video as I plan on doing all my own maintenance

[@rolacook222]

You’re organized and good @ mechanical things Alex. Your video will no doubt help some DYI scooter mechanics, (even I think I could give it a go as long as I had your video to help me make sure I hadn’t forgotten anything)? Thumbs up! Best, Rola (Oregon / USA)

[@RideWithAlex]

Thanks! 👍

[@edwardadelin689]

Loved to see the Revo50 and all the 50cc outside the showroom 🎉

[@walkaboutwisdom]

Thank you so much for this. #futuregoals My bike is still in warranty but I plan to eventually do as much as I can.

[@yesgo.han-sam]

Hey Alex, I don't think you need to grease the Rollers. Not sure if it will mess the whole thing up und gets sticky by time. ... But thanks for showing Big Inspektion! Very Detailed! :-) Is very helpful for everyone that wants to do their own Inspektion! Great Job!

[@RideWithAlex]

We always grease the rollers, it helps with the wear over time.

[@tranthoai4196]

I hope one day symphony will be sold in VietNam

[@JVBNorway]

Just what I wanted to see! Amazing video bud:)

[@RideWithAlex]

Thanks!

[@exgtt2061]

I’d avoid greasing the rollers as the grease will be flung out potentially contaminating the belt. But, your scooter has made it to 40k so I must be wrong 😂👍

[@RideWithAlex]

Always greased my rollers, and will continue to do so. Never had issues with contamination

[@sniperule2004]

I pull the cluch pulley a little bit and the I put the belt a bit inside, so I don't strugle at the front!

[@RideWithAlex]

Good hint 😁

[@robinwells8879]

Thanks! I wanted to know how a scooter variator worked. I have a 1971 DAF33 with a very similar transmission arrangement. 👍

[@RideWithAlex]

My pleasure.

[@chilltouchng]

Hello from Bulgaria! I just enjoyed watching trip to Asia and all other trips with Danny. Do you plan to do more bonkers trips with him?

[@RideWithAlex]

Currently no plans but who knows what the future holds

[@pabloandrescastrosanchez]

Is there any video where you calibrate the valves?

[@RideWithAlex]

No, I have never done it by myself, I let a professional do that.

[@TonyDap]

Very thank for this video 💯

[@RideWithAlex]

My pleasure. 😁

[@ismaisma7373]

لقد شاهدت الفيديو من الجزائر و اعجبت جدا بطريقة توضيحك السهل اتمنى ان تقول لنا ماهي جميع القطع التي استبدلتها من 0 كلم حتى 40 الف كلم فيديوهاتك رائعة اتمنى أن تستمر في نشرها

[@RideWithAlex]

Thank you :)

[@nenadsmiljkovik8153]

Was this first major srvice? I have sym symphony st200, bought it with 11k kilometers now it has 19k,never changed anything on it except engine oil every 1000km, the scooter runs perfect. Also my friend offer me brand new ferodo clutch for this scooter, will it increase the performance of the scooter?

[@RideWithAlex]

I don't know about the clutch, but at least the transmission belt and rollers have to be changed every 12.500km

[@yldrmtk]

Hi, How can i get a windshield? I'm talking about the tour glass. I live in Turkey. I couldn't find it here.. 😢

[@RideWithAlex]

Find a GIVI importer.

[@yoldayizbiz]

Hi Alex, I am using same SYM, Symphony ST200 (E5), 2023, km:1300. My I use Castrol Power1 Racing 4T 10W-50 (API SN, JASO MA-2) oil?

[@RideWithAlex]

Check your user manual, it will list all oil viscositys you can use. It should work but I'm not 100% sure if a 50 isn't to thick, check the manual.

[@TheEragoon]

Thanks for sharing!

[@RideWithAlex]

My pleasure!

[@denizkuzhan]

Hi Alex, I have 2 questions. My jet14 200's warranty is over, so i started doing my own maintenance. Dealerships here put 800mls of oil in it, however i see you putting in 700. which one's right? the manual has 3 different options but i'm not sure which one applies to my scooter. also, the manual tells you to change oil every 1000kms, which doesnt sound very logical. ive been changing mine every 2000-2500 kms. i'd love to hear your input on this, and would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction to ensure a long and healthy engine life

[@RideWithAlex]

I change my oil every 2500km and you never put in a certain amount, always check the dip stick, and you fill the engine to max on the dip stick, you start it up for 15-20 seconds you wait 1 minute and then check your level again and add a bit more to get it to max is it drops down after the startup. That is the corect way to set your oil level. And then on this particular engine I check my oil level every 2-300km and top it off if needed. It's an air cooled engine so depending how you ride it it's normal for it to consume some oil between oil changes.

[@benvid86]

Hey alex which standard engine oil you use in symphony st?? jaso ma or ma2 or mb

[@RideWithAlex]

Ma2

[@benvid86]

Tnx bro🍻🙋🏻‍♂️

[@iFeelsify]

Hi, for engine oil nut is 17 size, which size for transmission bolts?

[@RideWithAlex]

10mm if I remember corect.

[@iFeelsify]

⁠​⁠@@RideWithAlexyes it’s 10mm. What transmission oil do you use?

[@RideWithAlex]

@@iFeelsify generic 85w140 transmission oil.

[@Stefan_trekkie]

Did you check the valves clearances on the Zontes? Sometimes they can be off from the factory and if the cold starts are not ok, they can be too tight. I have a lot to ride.. My Symphony is on 4000 at the moment.

[@RideWithAlex]

That zontes was taken apart many times to try to figure it out and no luck, it's just as is and it's our sacrificial bike now because we can't sell it like this.

[@Stefan_trekkie]

@@RideWithAlex Sorry, Alex. I am just professionally distorted, because I am fixing industrial machines all day long, all my life. And just tickles when someone have gremlins problems like the Zontes.

[@dib85]

Very nice video mate, very helpfull. One question. Would it be smart to insert a fuel filter into a sym 125 st? Im talking of those universal ones. thank you

[@RideWithAlex]

No, you will mess the fuel pressure to the injector and the scooter will run lean. It has a big fuel filter in the mouth of the fuel pump in the tank it's all it needs.

[@dib85]

@@RideWithAlex Thank you.

[@TheArdeleanDaniel]

Sunt interesat de posibilitatea creșterii vitezei maxime. ( Standard se plafoaneaza in jurul vitezei de 102 km/h, care în realitate e aprox 90-92 km/h. E exact viteza la care te lupți cu tirurile. Ideal ar fi să adaug vreo 10 km in plus, nu e important reprizele sau accelerația. Ce poți recomanda? Role, curea, ambreiaj de alte dimensiuni? Bineînțeles, păstrarea garanției și fiabilității,.

[@RideWithAlex]

Orice modificare duce la pierderea garanției. În materie de role am încercat role de 18grame și la viteza maxima nu au făcut nici o diferență. Nu știu nici eu exact ce sa încerc ca nu găsesc piese modificate, mai studiez problema.

[@EndritBs]

I think you should change gear teeth ratios.I think even scooter has then.Go check SYM ADX 125 what kind of gear ratio it has? And try putting in ST200? Probably that helps?

[@pastossellami300]

Name of huil bro i ve too st200cc im from morrocco

[@goranmuskinja2091]

Heloo, what are the dimensions of the belt, and what is the weight of the roller?

[@RideWithAlex]

I use OEM parts they have part codes not dimensions. Belt is 1B01XMA02. Rollers should be about 14gr each.

[@makis206]

Alex i saw you used 10w40 oil for your engine but Sym here in Greece says we should use 15w50 or 20w50 oil for Symphony ST200 Euro5. Last week I got mine to the Sym dealer for the first 1000km service and they put inside my engine Sym 20w50 oil.. i think it's too thick and my motor is struggling to accelerate after that.! Already replaced it after 50km with a new 15w50 oil. If course it feels better but not as it's first 1000kms.. Should i check for a new 10w40 oil this time you think? Friends are using 10w40 in the same engine and suggests me to go for it. But Sym Greece doesn't agree with that and i could have warranty issues (2 years in Greece) if i use thinner than 15w50 oil.. OK I'll do it by myself and no-one of them will ever know. You know what Romanian manual suggests for your scooter oil?

[@RideWithAlex]

I've used only 10w40 in it and it runs perfectly, try 10w40.

[@makis206]

@@RideWithAlex thanks a lot sir.!

[@blanc087]

your engine oil must be hot before changing

[@RideWithAlex]

Warm enough. :))

[@markoskoda]

01:17 - spark plug, buy DENSO equivalent :D you probably buy NGK Indonezia ...

[@markoskoda]

24:09 PRO TIP: go and buy "Tech Pulley" rollers (no DR.Pulley) 20% lighter than original weight - you will get 20-35% bether perfomanse then Multivar or some other sport variomat and they will last 40.000-50.000 km with no problem and it will cost 50% less then same sport variomat :D

[@markoskoda]

36:00 why arent you change or blow up the air filter? :O its very important thing to do ...

[@RideWithAlex]

I did change the air filter with a new one, i change the air fiter everu 5000km

[@Panos125S]

Interesting 😊

[@servicestorkostogloustor9806]

With all respect you make a big mistake with the spanners : never but never try to tight or untight the hex nuts or bolts with open side of spanner its easy to kill the head of the nut or bolt or even loose it and hurt your hands. Nice job btw.

[@dimitriosexizidis6421]

grease the Rollers-BIC MISTAKE

[@RideWithAlex]

Been doing it for years and they hold up much better then non greased.

[@pastossellami300]

Write name of product u use

[@RideWithAlex]

I use only OEM parts, you can get them from your local dealer.

[@andreiacatrinei1612]

By the way, whats up with the bmw?

[@RideWithAlex]

Needs an oil change and I'm lazy =))))

[@gilwe]

Is this SYM Ultra oil full or semi-synthetic?

[@RideWithAlex]

It's semi, 70-30 split

[@gilwe]

thanks, so 30% synthetic or 70% synthetic? is it generally better (or safe) to use 100% synthetic with these Symphonys?

[@RideWithAlex]

@@gilwe 70% synthetic, 100% synthetic is ok for SYM's

[@gilwe]

Thanks. I just bought my 3rd Symphony (love those 16" wheels), and checked with the local dealer for the ideal oil for it, they insist I should only use semi-synthetic in those but I'm not sure why. They use (and recommend) Motul 5000 10W40 specifically. I've used fully synthetic Castrol Power Racing 10W40 in my older one and at some point it started leaking, so I'm not sure. As a semi-synthetic I've heard the Castrol Power 1 is a better option, but not sure.

[@RideWithAlex]

@@gilwe I've seen some owners running full synthetic in SYM's without issues so 🤷. I use the SYM semi-synthetic because I can get my hands on it easily and with curently 42000km on the clock I think it's doing a good job so no need to switch to something else.

[@revolutionar]

How is it in the summer being air cooled ? any problems so far?

[@RideWithAlex]

No problems, the cooling is more the adequate even on 40 degrees outside temperature.

[@gubbio73]

tks by your video...are u romanian living in usa ????? hello from italy..

[@RideWithAlex]

I'm Romanian living in Romania 😂

[@e2e4au]

Alex, are you able to do a valve adjustment video please - cover off things like intervals, spacing, tools required. Thanks in advance !

[@RideWithAlex]

I let the valve adjustment to the professionals.

[@e2e4au]

LOL....Understood - Any chance to video them doing it ??@@RideWithAlex

[@RideWithAlex]

@@e2e4au maybe next time I have to do it.

[@badrharith3487]

Hello Alex. it doesnt really have something to do with the video, but I wanna buy new tyres on my sym jet 14 and i cannot find michelin city grip 2 for 100/90/14 measures for the front tyre. These are the measures written in the scooter book. Should i give up on michelin city grip 2 and buy another tyre or just buy this one but another measure? For example the back tyre has 110//80/14 and I found for bot rear and front. Would it be a good idea to buy 2 tyres like this for both rear and front ? I heard they are kinda the best on the market so that s why i am insisting on them.

[@RideWithAlex]

You can buy a 100/90/14 that's "made for the rear" and just mount it backwards on the front. When a tyre says it's made for the rear it just means they only give you rotation direction for the rear. If you put it on the front you just have to mount it the opposite rotation direction from the rear.

[@ygeia_trws]

Since your epic journey to Anatolia, I was wondering about a maintenance video of Donnie! You seemed so confident about the engine oil change or even a spare belt, if I am not mistaken... Glad you spent time and effort to teach us!!

[@RideWithAlex]

On my trip last year yes a I did have a spare belt with me just in case but there was no need for it :).

[@JR-cf3wh]

Bummer, I came to valve check.

[@makis206]

Thanks a lot for that Alex, really needed it.! Huge thumbs up sir.!! 👍👍👍

[@RideWithAlex]

My pleasure!

[@salahiyad384]

When we should change the transmission oil, i have a scooter 11000 km i never change it

[@RideWithAlex]

I change it once every 5000km

[@andreiacatrinei1612]

There is a bearing in the clutch puley, you should have greased it :)

[@RideWithAlex]

It was pretty greasy, never did do anything with it but probably next belt service at 55.000 km I'll go through all the bearings in the transmission.

[@ΑντωνηςΣιανος-λ7σ]

Have you ever replaced the centrifuge jaws ??

[@RideWithAlex]

No, not yet. No need to replace them curently.

[@ΑντωνηςΣιανος-λ7σ]

@@RideWithAlex How often you think its needed to replace them in real life use ?

[@RideWithAlex]

@@ΑντωνηςΣιανος-λ7σ I don't know, as with any clutch depends on how you use it. Clutches don't have a km life time they have a number of starts from 0 lifetime.

[@ΑντωνηςΣιανος-λ7σ]

@@RideWithAlex I see . okay thanks . cause i changed mine in 20.000 km .. it really needed change and i thought it was crazy ..

[@_Emisiunea_Cuceritorii_]

sal. daca nu avem pistol de impact, dar avem dinamometrica, la cati nm se strang acele 2 piulite de la curea ?

[@RideWithAlex]

Sincer nu cunosc specificatia dar exista manuale de service pe net.

[@homurbey]

55 nm

[@_Emisiunea_Cuceritorii_]

@@homurbey 👌

[@danidany8535]

Pe ce motocicleta mergi la inceput?

[@RideWithAlex]

Am mers pe Symphony ST50 apoi dupa permis an luat acest ST200 si un Transalp din 91, transalpul nu mi-a placut si l-am inlocuit cu in BMW R1100GS din 96. Si tot cu ST-ul merg 90% din timp dar imi place si GS-ul

[@danidany8535]

@@RideWithAlex ma refeream ca la inaceputul filmuletului mergi pe o motocileta

[@RideWithAlex]

@@danidany8535 ah, Zontes G155

[@lotusds]

@@RideWithAlex Două întrebări rapide, și mulțumesc anticipat! 1. Ai simțit că rulai prea încet pe ST 50 la livrări, sau era acceptabil? 2. Un XPRO 50 nu era mai manevrabil printre mașini, având roți de 12' ? (Ghici de ce întreb... 😃🥰 )

[@RideWithAlex]

@@lotusds e ok 50 pt livrări dar mult mai bun este 125-ul. Da x'pro e mai manevrabil dar eu prefer ciclistica rotilor mai mari.

[@CristianCarpiuc]

Sunt fiabile motoarele de 125cc de la sym ? Câți km poate duce un 125cc de la sym ? Mulțumesc!

[@RideWithAlex]

Salut, daca te uiti pe canal la short-uri o sa vezi un Jet14 de 125cc L/C cu peste 100.000km in bord, actualmente are 112.000km si in continuare este pe livrari. Toti km astia in doar 3 ani.