40.8W OUTPUT from a 19.4W INPUT using a statpower-invertor powered hemmoroidal transformer

[@MrDKONZEN]

The video was cut a bit short at the very end, but it was showing 162ma x 120Vac as the input, (19.4 watts) this while measuring the AC feed into the transformer primary from a statpower invertor, and am not using the AC grid as is in video before this one. Interesting a 4uf cap in parallel to primary works best when using the grid, but do the same with a cap parallel to primary while using the invertor output, and draw goes way up like that, so for this "invertor-powered" experiment a 4uf cap was instead put in series on one of the AC lines to the primary and it worked very good like that.

[@SaveOurSoulsSOS-cs6np]

So, instead of resistor, You can put an fb. rectifier, cap, and feed the power inverter, see if it keeps running! God bless You. PEACE & GOOD LUCK

[@MrDKONZEN]

@@SaveOurSoulsSOS-cs6np Hi SOS Yes, in a couple of videos before this one, that was what I was doing - but had battery getting charged while discharging into invertor at same time to the experiment...I was showing 500ma into battery to charge, while 500ma into resistance of transformer and FWBR at same time and battery did not deplete at least...maybe a super cap in place of battery next time in future...

[@SaveOurSoulsSOS-cs6np]

@@MrDKONZEN BRAVO, NICE WORK. PEACE

[@dSquared0162]

Very nice demo. 👍

[@MrDKONZEN]

Thanks these transformers seem to really work well, at a particular resistive load in this case 50ohms they work great if you get the "tuning" caps right. Inductive and capacitive loads instead of resistive a whole other ball game could take months or years to evaluate all possibilies of a transformer that works with no "back emf" going back to primary....

[@sandysmagicmix]

Looks very promising. Well done and thanks for sharing. Only criticism from me is that maybe those resistors are over powered? Are they 10 watt rated? Anyway, nice work!

[@MrDKONZEN]

Yes 10W resistors bought at local electronic store, I parallel two so can handle 20W, the 40W output tests gets them hot quick, I do tests quick while still cool to touch. I should buy some more maybe 400 ohm ones with 8 paralleled or whatever to make that 50ohm resistance with lots more watts-capable to them and they will not burn through the wood table haha.....there is talk the "heat wire" inside of them really an inductor, but I think that is very minor detail and these work 99% as a real resistive load, that 1% inductive maybe is all.... . These particular transformers and those winds in them really like the 50ohm resistance it seems....

[@sanhnghiemxuan7271]

Hi, I would love to have the transformer diagram.

[@MrDKONZEN]

Its a standard 3ph AC transformer with those "shunt" bars added to it. Not too complicated. Windings are of multi-filar winds, I parallel some of the secondaries so it works as step down transformer, while primary has multifilars all in series for high impedance and can handle the 120VAC input without getting hot. Does not need to be multifilar winds, its just what I like to do - you could use the stock windings of a 3phAC transformer if you want. The cap sizes and placement in circuit you will need to find for yourself on the bench doing tests for yourself in whatever it is you want these transformers to do. In my case, I wanted a step down transformer that can power an invertor not more than 16Vdc eventually coming out of the secondaries so did my coil winds as such.

[@Jon-fs2zj]

Maybe the difference between grid and your inverter is the inverter is not pure sine wave? Also I've been experimenting with caps like yours but I only have the ones out of microwaves so I have to series them to get higher uf because they add when you series them right? When I series a.95uf on one leg of the AC output of my inverter to run my transformer my inverter shows no amp draw but I rectify the transformer output and it charges a battery no problem. If I remove the cap the inverter shows 8 amp draw and gets hot quick and the charging battery climbs really fast. It'll burn up if I let it run. So what exactly is the cap doing to the circuit? Interesting thanks

[@MrDKONZEN]

Hi Jon Yes the sinewave of this invertor I am using looks like very sharp blasts of alternating DC currents and voltage, an alternating DC cap discharge I would say is what it is. For the grid AC, besides there is "unlimited" current behind it too, the sinewave is very nice and smooth like it "should be" so stuff like "power factor correction" with caps and the phase shift angles or lack of any phase shift angle work like the textbooks say they should and will, but this invertor is a DC boost convertor really that has alternating blasts of DC current from a cap plus far as I know a voltage doubler circuit too.....someone told me the DC boost convertors employ shorting of the inductor to give a really good jolt in the cap discharge because the cap will fill so high and so quick. Probably the shor circuit of inductor timed at the peak period of voltage or current. I think the series cap works as a low-end frequency filter and chops out the low frequency stuff like you would see in an audio speaker tweeter circuit, so you could say it is a current limiter too, maybe chopping out the low end stuff kills really bad lenz reaction and backemf problems causing huge draw......maybe....also probably it allows a resonant chamber for the spikey blasts of DC to jump into and swim around for a spell....I dont know - this is the first time I have got a "tuning" cap to work well with these statpower invertors, usually they just increase draw or cut down the power output and makes it worse, but something going on here good with the 4uf in series.....other uf sizes did not work, either smaller uf or larger uf, it must be exaclt 4uf so this indicates some sort of resonance going on maybe not and is something else such as it kicks in some good currents normally not happening through the hemmoroidal transformer so the backemf magnetic currents actually make it across the shunt bars to reinforce the opposite secondary like it is supposed to work in the grand theory.

[@MrDKONZEN]

Hi Jon Look out for those microwave AC caps, they usually have a "safety" drain-resistor inside of them and it really messes them up. you can cut them open, drain the old oil out and cut out the resistor and refill with some new cooling oil but its a bit mess. Look around for the old school oil filled HV AC caps, they sell them online in surplus places.... look around and start a collection I have quite a few from over the years as you can see....I got a lot from a place in Tacoma WA that would gut out old navy ships and sell all the stuff....I think they out of business now. Vetco electronic surplus in Bellevue WA has some for sale I see on their shelves when going in there.... they have online store. too...get alot of 1uf or 2 uf or 4uf size so can parallel and get just the right UF value....If you contact Vetco, ask them the name of the surplus electronics place down in Tacoma....I cannot remember their name right now. they probably will sell online too everyone does these days.

[@MehmetBoysal]

Hi Kon, good job, man. But how do you think this additional 20 watts of power is generated? Is it possible that your homemade transformer is somehow able to amplify electromagnetic force? I have always believed that power can be amplified, just like we are able to amplify sound with amplifiers.

[@MrDKONZEN]

Hi Mehmet How it works is simple sort of "mechanically logical" you could say to explain it, I like this better than just to say "its what it is, I dont know why" and in this case I think I do know why (but might be wrong haha) So everytime you have electrical "flow" you have in conseuence a magnetic field rotating around the electrical field, now this a "I dont know why for sure" but is just the way it is like it or not sort of thing. For sure there is magnetic field as proven by any electromagnetic coil. So, whenever there is change in direction of the electrical flow (such as in AC, or in "alternating DC" pulse - same thing really) Now the change in direction creates a "backemf" which means creating an electromagnetic fiield that is in opposite flow direction to the "proiceeding " (before the shift in flow direction) Think of water pumped through a pipe, and if you change its flow direction every second or whenever now that water is just "not going to like it" and will create a gurgitating motion that will fight the flow-change evey change in the flow direction....so this gurgitation or whatever you call it could be compared to backemf magnetic currents. So AC always creates a backemf force in MAGNETIC currents (not electrical - that would be "something like" flyback voltage which is similar but not same subject. IN DC, its the sudden stop in flow direction that will create backemf currents (and flyback spikes but flyback spikes a thoursand times faster) WHY transformers always seem to go up in draw to primary is because the backemf forces regurgitate themselves back into the primary coil of the transformer, in a 3ph transformer, the backemf will regurgitate twice per polarity change, and in complete AC sinewave four times - twice above, and twice below, traveling through the core material from both secondaries into the single primary in the middle (IF it is set up so central coil is primary and secondaris to the left and right) OK this is why nobody can :"get anywhere" with transformers as whenever you load the secondaries current is made,,,, and the currrent being made creates the INHERINT back emf forces like it or not, that will shoot back into primary coil core leg, lowering the impedance of the primary coil, creating lots of extra draw in consequence. So far so good maybe? I dont know but lets say you can redirect or at least cancel out the backemf force to go over to the opposite secondary, REINFORCING power being made in opposite secondary, and especially important, with no extra draw to the primary when coils are loaded? Thats what thsese transformers are supposed to be doing when you get it right.... Regular transformers you can hope for 100% effeciency if lets say in resonance you get all the turning caps perfect and load perfect but good luck making something overunity from just a regular off shelf transformer.....however with the "hemmoroidal" transformer (AKA Bittoridal transformerr) you "eliminate" the backemf forces going back to primary and instead they travel through the magnetic "schunt.bars" above and below as these have the least resistance path to the "backing up" magnetic forces and those magnetic forces make their way over to the opposite secondary giving more power from seemingly out of nowhere but the nowheere is the fact the inherent backemf forces are tricked and steered over that way and "bypassing" (up and over) te primary leg via the schunt bars. In nutshell get rid of inherent backkemf forces what do you have then? Something unstoppable more or less....manifest as overunity with resistive loading as in these tests (if you get it right) or a transformer with 90 degree phase shift to the AC input (so zero power input) while there is an output of real honest to good power on the output. as in my other tests with scope to see the phase shif.t). Sorry long description still In another nutshell lets say a transformer that redirects backemf forces into opposite secondary upon loading and makes more power than power input since you use the backemf magnetic current to make that extra power, instead of having the backemf as would be normal raise the draw of primary in consequenc to loading of the secondaries.....still a little long description but will work on it get it down to 12 world or less....

[@MehmetBoysal]

Hey Kon, thanks for giving me with different examples of the lengthy inner understanding workings of shall we say on how the electron flows. Your explanation of the "hemmoroidal" or "bitoridal" transformer highlights an intriguing approach to increasing efficiency and potentially achieving overunity. If one has to achieve different output from a transformer one has to do different things, really applies here. Thanks for doing and sharing your work. By redirecting back electromotive force (EMF) through the magnetic "shunt bars," you propose that these transformers can bypass inherent back EMF forces, resulting in higher output power, it's very logical and it's very possible and surely is evident here. This concept of mitigating the counter-electromotive forces that normally oppose the primary input has the potential to revolutionize transformer design for sure. But it will be much faster to find the right transformer configuration that will give the highest output by using a transformer design and testing software. That we can test these ideas within the computer program, rather then building and testing it. If we can effectively manage and redirect these forces, we may be able to create more efficient electrical systems, reduce energy waste, and possibly even achieve overunity. This goal that has long eluded electrical engineers and researchers, but how often they are able to think outside of the box, makes you wonder. Generally speaking they has been incredible progress in every aspect of life except the transformers. Man we are still using transformers which was designed and built in 1886 by William Stanley for Westinghouse. Time has come to discover the hidden secrets of transforms.

[@MrDKONZEN]

@@MehmetBoysal Hi Mehmet I would say EMF in this case is ElectroMagneticForce, while if describing a motor, it would be ElectroMotiveForce.....just a small detail in explanation, as it is a very strong magnetic force that will travel through the shunt bars....getting it to take that route is going to be where the resistance of the load is very important, as too little resistance makes it so not much "Forward" EMF makes its way into secondary, so not very much of the inherent "Back" EMF is created. "I dont know" as usual, but I find on bench testing that some resistive loads work well and show overunity some do not with other things equal (same voltage input same freqquency) I think it is a balance to be found where just enough amp draw is all you want to have, and that just enough is enought so a good deal of backemf is created, and this chooses the shunt bar path, instead of fighting against the head-on forward EMF shooting through the cross-bar leg connecting primary to secondary leg. If too much resistive load it creates way too muich forward EMF that "snowballs" the backEMF forces and rams it too hard, not letting the backmf forces to go anywhere at all but a lump of magnetic currents in an angry ball fighting against themselves..... This all theory why some resistive loads work wel,, some do not.... Could be it has to do with TIMING and the particular resistive load chosen delays the backemf to be a backwards-magnetic current event "in between" the Forward EMF events of the AC currents, so current peak one way, followed by the backemf "current peak" the other way....and it gets through because of that timing, dictated by the resistive load creating a time delay "just right".....sorry more theory. About simulations - I doubt they will have clue about backemf forces how and when they wil occur nor where they will go, but maybe so I dont know...in meantime not much takes the place of bench testing to find stuff out or at least see it happen with no clue why it is... "What he dont know we dont understand" opening words to happyhappyhappy by the Fuckedtones: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmSyqK2hd8t1m80

[@bearchow1929]

Not even wrong. Your calculations are incomplete, all AC power measurement must include phase. And that will only be correct if your inverter has a sine wave output.

[@MrDKONZEN]

Yes I have checked phase shift between voltage and current with a scope on the AC input, There is no phase shift on secondary output since it is lump resistive load there so no worries.... the input is an inductive load so there is always phase shift and power factor needs to be calculated. I have done many boring videos of looking at phase shift and can get a 90 degree phase shift while a resistive load on secondaries if I so choose to do that with these transformers (it's best feature - so it's a a reactive to real power "convertor"while also disquised as a step down transformer) A 90 degree phase shiftmakes power factor zero in the V x A x PF = AC watts measurement. 99% of people do not understand what power factor is. These two recent videos only interesting, and show "what the meters say" one with the grid AC, the other with the invertor "AC" (which is really alternating DC sharp cap discharge pulsing from the statpower invertor which is basically a DC boost convertor circuit with voltage doubling that alrernates discharge both directions with a 120vdc cap discharge as the AC so no pure sinewave from invertor nor is it even modified to resemble one) What is very interesting is good effect of power factor correcting cap as output remains the same but draw drops big-time at least when using AC from grid, the invertor AC output was working crazy with the series AC cap and very hard to believe is true or accurate of what the actual watts input is but is what it is (with meter). If I can "imitate" the "AC" cap discharge from invertor, using some sort of other type of "AC" generator, this might really be something.