40 Facts and Lore about the Dark Age of Technology, Warhammer 40K

[@danielwells1734]

We were so awesome we could build starships so advanced that even the Necrons would be clueless about its workings! :D Now all we have are "flashlights" and WW1-style tanks. :(

[@sampleentry5253]

Daniel Wells Dude technological advancement is heresy. Were you not properly instructed of His ways?

[@namminh7574]

Daniel Wells Actually, Necrons>Eldar>Humanity.

[@danielwells1734]

Nam Minh The Ark Mechanicus would disagree.

[@namminh7574]

Daniel Wells Seriously, Necrons are supposed to be the most advanced civilization, Eldar comes in second. The Old Ones...damn those frogs, i cant even rank them, their (psychic) technology was god-like, they created the Eldar and Orks, just imagine if those primitive Orks get access to their creator's data...

[@Apathologicalsextant26]

Daniel Wells I find that hard to believe that the humans would be just as advanced as the necrons during the dark age of technology but humans were advanced none the less.

[@TrungTran-uz7nn]

fun fact about DaoT Baneblades were originally considered a "light" vehicle. LIGHT. The Baneblade was on the level of and as common as a Leman Russ (maybe not even that) back then. Far more widespread use of anti-gravity. Guns that can travel their ammo back in time so they can hit their target with 105% accuracy. Robots with the strength of Space Marines that numbered in levels close to the Imperial Guard. On a similar note, Sentient AI's. Imperator Titans were practically universal in most planet's PDF. Terminator armor was used for deep space mining. Meaning people back then used Terminator armor simply as protection from rocks. Weapons that could shoot enemy ships in the middle of a warp jump.

[@spicemarine1884]

Holy moly

[@Priceluked]

Trung Tran Sounds like they were a bunch of doughboys. Using an army of robots.

[@owenthomas2914]

In some novel (I forget which) some aristocrat uses his great-great-great...grandfathers equivalent of a mobile phone from this era to hack and shut down then reboot in proper working order a whole hive city.

[@sydorovich2532]

Owen Thomas That's pretty awesome.

[@finnheisenheim8274]

Now all the imperium has is flashlights and tractors for tanks while the adeptus mechanicus slap their cyberdongs on broken STC mainframes instead of innovating :/

[@watcherzero5256]

I just love the concept of the STC, a perfect thing for colonists and something we pretty much have the technology to build to equip a future colony. A database of human technology and blueprints combined with an AI you simply tell it what materials you have readily available to utilise (e.g wood, iron and copper) and it will adapt the blueprints (e.g a tractor, a house, a tank) to a design solely utilising those resources.

[@bahadrbaserkok3335]

Congratulations your WikiHow and Wikipedia have been succesfully evolved into STC!

[@proxy90909]

@@bahadrbaserkok3335 Wiki how wikipedia and all youtube tutorials in a single device

[@floridaball4896]

Imagine if the emperor had found one

[@unnamedcrusader8810]

@@floridaball4896 One goal of the imperium is to find these, and one of the STC maker/STCs has been found in a ship, it’s interior was described as a Tau interior design, and the AI actually talked to the mechanicus and Space marines that boarded the ship, and froze the space marine’s armor, telling them how dumb they became, and just savage like. The AI and the ships Captain and Crew traced forward in time, then a little back, and tried warning the Imperium of their fate, but they killed the crew and captain, and then the AI kicked them out.

[@jackt4595]

@@unnamedcrusader8810 yes,and then in a total display of zero fucks given he almost destroyed an eldar ship which was commanded by a farseer while saying to the mechanics "gaze upon what you had lost" ngl In a way i want more lore about DAOT but in another i wanted to be a part left extremely vague so as to not ruin it

[@GUMMRUCHK]

For the most part the dark age of technology sounds a hell of a lot better than the Imperium of Man.

[@ekulerudamuru]

GUMMRUCHK it's basically a star trek era..

[@owenthomas2914]

I so want to see a Star Trek episode they encounter a WAAARRRRGGG!!

[@ColonelCrisp]

The Imperium of Man is worse than the “Dark Age” of Technology.

[@generizze6243]

ekulerudamuru more likely ancient humans in halo.

[@thebenevolentsun6575]

@@ColonelCrisp thats what he said

[@XvShadowsvX]

Well the Warp was calm and peaceful during the age of technology because the eldar has such mastery over the warp they imprisoned the chaos gods behind psychic 'walls' They also created their own gods from psychic energy that patrolled the warp destroying anything that got through. When an Eldar dies their soul went into the warp where they could commune with other dead and rest before making the choice to be reborn into a new body, it was as close to 'heaven' as the 40k can get. That's why the imperium had psykers that were not possessed for thousands of years, there were no demons about to possess them. The Age of Strife occurred when the Eldar lost control of the warp with the birth of slaanesh and their psychic force field in the warp fell and with so few eldar left alive their Gods were too weak to fight slaanesh. This meant that all the feelings that the chaos gods thrived on were suddenly unleashed upon humanity, War, Hate, disease, change (could have been tzzentch that changed the men of Iron causing them to attack their owners), and of course, Heresy.

[@loganmilliken2727]

I wonder if the elder 'grew up' in an age with similar levels of warp control, as those humans grew up under or if the warp was simply quieter due to less humans and such.

[@bengrogan9710]

The eldar where created by the old ones, they where designed with innate psyhic wards, in a similiar way to orks. Both where made by the old gods, the theory some use is that there was only Nurgle and Khorne at the time, and both where much more "conceptual" than sentient. the other great warp storm the Maelstrom is theorised to be from the birth of Tzeench, The Scheming of the Old gods as they raised species specifically to fight the C'tan being the trigger. Tzeench's Birth is supposedly what gave Khorne and Nurgle the concept of "Self" as without that concept they cannot act with self interest, necessary for Tzeench's machinations later

[@AJ49377]

the gods don't die, even the eldar gods killed by slaanesh will rise again. you can only hold them in prisons. especially the ones born of base emotion. it was the evils of the now dark eldar that bore she who thirsts and freed all the evil in the warp.

[@wilsondesmond8022]

The entire Eldar empire was devolving into a hedonistic mess for millennia after the War in Heaven, daemons and warp predators had already existed, as we see with the original human shamans all systematically dying from daemonic incursions. The warp was already messed up beyond reason from the War in Heaven, the Eldar just managed to survive by stealing a bunch of the Old One's tech and using it for themselves.

[@LtCWest]

Fuckin' Eldar, always ruining everything....

[@oddish2253]

Eldar race... gives the term Death by Snu Snu a whole different depth.

[@hombreg1]

Death by God given birth by excessive amounts of snusnu

[@havoc1134]

...who then forcibly Snu Snus their souls for eternity in the kind of creative/horrifying ways only Slaanesh and his/her army of torture daemons could come up with.

[@AJ49377]

snu snu was the start, soon that wasn't enough, rape, then turture, capture of people to slowly kill and draw pleasure from the prolonged suffering. killing of eldar in the streets. birth of the dark eldar, birth of slaanash

[@deanrichard1770]

Icj

[@1973Washu]

Murderfucking a Chaos god into existence is kind of the basement for the depth they could sink to.

[@mathais4146]

Non aggression pacts between terra and aliens? I'd guess only the Eldar and others signed..and not the orks..

[@CorvusCorone68]

yeh the orks don't even have a centralized govment to sign pacts with

[@jankostrhun8725]

They did as well. They probably found suicide attacks against Men of Iron on who know what other defensive super-tech too much of a bother to deal with and went on bashing someone else. But that's according to quite old lore... things looked quite differently back then.

[@xeonespydonum4995]

Squats set up trade deals with Orks.. uhhh... somehow. There are many reasons the Squats got ret conned.

[@jankostrhun8725]

CorvusCorone68 Ork kingdoms are quite wast and some are relatively stable, you would have to re-sign those deals every time now warboss beats the snot out of the last one, but it COULD be done... that is in the old days, when space marines were pretty much glorified space cops. The is no diplomacy in the 40K.

[@owenthomas2914]

you couldn't set sign deals with whole ork tribes no, but would certain warlords be prepared to put there aggression aside long enough to get there hands on some Federation supper-tech dakka? Mork yes!

[@Masonicon]

fun fact: Event Horizon movie are 40k prequel in term of man's first contact with warpspace

[@asaenvolk]

that is a fan theory, not a fact, though the idea is cool

[@benkerry9947]

I thought this when I saw the film too.

[@asaenvolk]

@Pandas Panda Pan Das who where and who confirmed it?

[@MultiGG2]

I know what REALLY cause the "men of iron" to rebel against humanity. Windows update. XD

[@shadowwolf4430]

They were using appleOS

[@sonofalich1825]

'I see you're trying to subjugate an artificially created working class of labor and war; would you like me to help you with that?' Swear to science, dancing paper clip! One more goddamn time and I'll... Wait... if I could just find the processing core that dictates its need to be helpful... - Age of Strife ensued-

[@kybercat7]

"windows 8 did it"

[@ArchivedFox]

I was under the impression that the men of iron rebelled because they saw humanity doomed because of the warp being chaotic and determined that the only way to 'save' humanity is to wipe them and then all other life out. This would settle the warp after which humans could be cloned again by the men of iron. Basically the theory on what the Tyranids are meant to do, only to calm the warp for humans instead of the Old Ones. Also the warp storms that broke apart humanity and nearly wiped us out happened right after their rebellion.

[@brickcraftproductions3065]

MultiGG2 Possibly Skynet if anyone at the 25th Millennia remembers the Ancient Terran Media Story known as the Terminator series, not to be confused with Terminator Armor used by the Adeptus Astarties

[@iona2225]

Could it not be a possibility that the Men of Iron rebelled due to influences from the C'tan void dragon? I think the Ai, while autonomous, were linked together in a network, where the VD 'piggybacked' the signal and forced them to kill all sentient life, if not consiously, instinctively due to its hunger. Making them 'neo-necrons' in a way.

[@nuissance8600]

Interesting theory you got there friend. Sending an inquisitor to your location to "discuss" it.

[@GnosisZX]

chaos is responsible for tons of shit that happened to mankind im never ever gonna love chaos

[@TheArklyte]

Could have? Isn't it canon explanation nowadays like it was before?

[@rainbowpig7376]

Men of Iron.Exe has stopped working please reboot your STC and install the *Skynet* update.

[@brickcraftproductions3065]

It is I, CatoSicarius *CHAOS SKYNET*

[@MrTurbowhitey]

This will be a comment that will cause much rage, but the Emperor allowed Humanity's real golden age to fall. It allowed him to gather his power, and conquer humanity's broken remains.

[@navilluscire2567]

MrTurbowhitey Well...yeah that's pretty obvious, but I'm sure he had his "reasons"....yeap GOOD reasons. *unimaginable human suffering in the background*

[@philipstuckey4922]

HERESY

[@DCapybara]

MrTurbowhitey Nice one, we'll send an inquisitor to discuss it with you right away

[@seankane8628]

My thoughts as well

[@Nexus9118]

How?

[@wilsondesmond8022]

“The greatest minds of the human race worked as one during this era, uniting their knowledge and genius to create an age of unprecedented prosperity for their species. They sought to master the powers of the universe, to understand every aspect of reality. But they failed to account for the things that existed beyond that remit ...”

[@DrArku]

I'm Commander Boreale and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel.

[@mathais4146]

Dont forget some servitors are those that failed the space marine trials, and rather then waste a body, create a servitor.

[@TheArklyte]

Which is still a waste. Mass producing "black carapace" implant(which crosses no imperial law and as such requires only a certain amount of favours payed to 2-3 Lords of Terra in advance would make servitors obsolete even if the policy on AI's won't change.

[@captainbodyshot2839]

everything you said didn't make any sense at all.

[@irishrepublican21]

4:31 It's the Helghast from Killzone

[@dillonaugust2212]

Men of Iron vs Astartes. Would be interesting.

[@chaosmarine5532]

Men of Iron would probably outnumber the Astartes, but they would put up a heavy fight for sure.

[@elasolezito]

When i was watching this i thought. "Wait, men of iron ? Isn't this from the first Gaunt's Ghosts book ? I'll ask it." But they got me first.

[@HowlFromBeyond]

Antonio Borrego this is essentially what you get every time marines encounter Necrons.

[@TheArklyte]

No, it wouldn't. Dark Age humanity had none of the limitations on numbers, equipement and tech level current Space Marines have and it still was a miracle that they've won. AI's don't need rest, they can work on finding solutions for generations, they have no emotions and, most importantly here, no limit to their numbers. Just send out a simple self sufficient factory in a probe to an uninhabitated planet with 2 directives: 1)build army to attack humans and 2)build more probes with same specifications and tasks. Will you be able to catch them all after a few years or even keep up with them, huh?

[@Universe593]

I imagine psykers played an important rule in humanity winning over men of iron

[@smithcas86]

OneMindSyndicate: Come for the lore, stay for the mispronunciations.

[@nuissance8600]

"Aibrant Gont" bah thats why we love OMS!

[@iGuttsi]

You can call me Mr. Smith to be honest a lot of the names are Latin

[@Priceluked]

chase green What even is his accent? Is English not his first language?

[@karmacrab]

pograms. The word is pograms - not programs...:) Love it when you can tell when they are reading something they didn't write themselves! Makes them endearing.

[@andnowtheweather2948]

@@karmacrab The word is "pogroms"

[@kylemma33]

0:45 isn't that the citadel from mass effect?

[@tails18boy]

mass effect pictures

[@jankostrhun8725]

That's the Citadel alright.

[@vladimirvojtaml]

+Michael Ashworth actually reapers would be perfect against chaos =D

[@jankostrhun8725]

Vladimir VojtaML Yeah ask Mechanicus how it's machines fared against chaos during their first encounter ).

[@vladimirvojtaml]

Jan Kostrhun tainted by chaos like men of iron then... Fck

[@Steeltael]

What if; The Tyranids invaded the Eye of Terror?

[@kirillmarine5157]

Steeltael Wolf WOW

[@jankostrhun8725]

Wouldn't be seen ever again. Best case scenario, Khorne would grant gran them eternal battle field, similar to the one, he granted Ork Waagh with similar idea.

[@noobkaka567]

nah man. Tyranids are a enigma to the warp of the eye of terror. Their physcic collevtive pulls a blanket on the warp. A blanket of dark and feral instincts. The food source for the more advanced demons and the gods (complex intelligent thoughts and wishes) would be cut-off by the Tyranid collective. Tyranids are a defacto end game scenario. They WILL end the Galaxy. They will end all independant thought and intelligent life. They will thereby end Chaos.

[@jankostrhun8725]

noobkaka567 They could theoretically end it (thou I would still bet on ork megawhaagh), but not by flying into the Eye of Terror. This is gate to the real of gods, you would have to do a lot better the some pesky warp shadow to deal with literally endless legions of daemons.

[@Slava22222]

they would be slaughtered because right now there is crazy Xeno feteshist bitch hunting for "GEEENNNN STILAA" Inside the warp. Dont argue with her logic =/ check TTS

[@navilluscire2567]

Or one of the first contacts went like this; Eldar diplomat: *telepathically* Hello...eerr "huu-mahn"?? I am a diplomat for the...what you may call the "eldar" people, I've already delved into your mind and have found this human word used often when referring to our kind by your species so as t- Human diplomat: *bluntly with his voice* Freakin SPACE ELVES!!.... Eldar diplomat: *now talking* I-I'm sorry what?? SPACE ELVES...I'm not fimilary with this term? what is it that you mean by this remark human? *hands over a book, title reads: THE MISADVENTURES OF THE SPACE ELVES AND THE PURPLE SERPENT!! The cover has a picture of what looks like an "eldar-like" figure along with a human companion on it* Human diplomat: *smiling* I didn't think the stories were all that...accurate when describing a newly discovered non-human intelligence. But I gotta say the resemblance is...both intriguing and uncanny!... Eldar diplomat: *looks flabbergasted* T-Thisss...is...impossible....NO "supernatural". From what I understand about your kind's dating system this "book" is dated to almost 300 years before our species meet!?! T-Tell me-me human does your kind have "seers" among you, I know you have "pyschics,"(less archaic lol!) but to see deep into the future is a rare talent even among our kin! How can there be a record about humans meeting we eldar before it happened!! Unless... *nervous sweating* Human diplomat: *looking amused* Haah! Nope! We didn't know you could see into the future with psychic powers! [human loling] I just thought you'd like this book, its really popular back home it's about a MOON PRINCE and his young sheild bearer going in all sorts of misadventures kinda pulpy and lame...buuut its guilty pleasure of mine!

[@davidebombardelli8255]

Imagine an eldar reading LOTR and the Simarillion.

[@seanodonnell7169]

wait, i thought the Elda controlled the galaxy leading up to the birth of slanesh? now you tell me humans had a big old empire at the same time

[@eduardoquinonez2929]

My thoughts are that the Eldar were too busy dealing with their descend into Excess and Madness as the Dark Age of Technology was immediately followed by the Age of Strife, which was caused by the Birthing of Slaneesh into Reality. The DAoT (Dark Age of Technology, duh :P) was in the finaly years of the Eldar Empire, which is why they were able to expand.

[@SchowiestSleet8]

The Eldar's empire lasted for around 40 million years after the War In The Heavens, towards the end, most of the Eldar descended into a state of madness, paranoia, sadism, etc and were probably unwilling to stop a species as powerful as humanity. Confident that in their own ability. Late Eldar empire period, the Eldar basically just acted like the humans in Wall-E. I'm also unsure if the Eldar empire spanned the entire galaxy. Even at their peak, the Eldar surely didn't discover all planets, ... Most of the Eldar empire seems to be have been located in what humanity know knows as the Segmentum Obscurus, where the eye of terror is located.

[@metholuscaedes6794]

Being relativly peacefull, the humans might just been ignored. humans thinking the Eldar were trivial, Eldar thinking the same and ignoring humanity. The Eldar could probably had destroyed humans if they would had bother.

[@bengrogan9710]

The Fall of the Eldar is supposedly synonymous with the age of strife, humans at the time had Non aggression treaties with the eldar in the dark age of tech, similiar to how nations at their most prosperous avoid large wars

[@alexanerose4820]

Well I guess the elder were to busy enjoying their superior everything to deal with humanity. If they really wanted to, humanity at it's golden age fighting against the eldar would have made for a good story..... for the eldar to tell >:D

[@MrSkyreks]

I wonder if the warp could accidentally send a space hulk or space marines back in time to this era.

[@LeonidesMexico]

Mejor un universo alternativo donde el emperador salvo a la federacion y estar Armas avanzados que nunca y si es necesario acabar con los eldar

[@barrybend7189]

So like Dune, AI are illegal.

[@Emanon...]

Also the whole "astronomicon to guide us through the warp" is pretty much the Navigators Guild from Dune.

[@severinsilmedin2588]

In Mass Effect they are also illegal.

[@mrnobody1958]

Like with star wars 40k is heavily inspired by dune, it's one of my favorite series btw, have you enjoyed it?

[@preddes6522]

@@severinsilmedin2588 complex ai, dumb air are allowed

[@Metalistforlife]

It's the butlerian jihad all over again lol..

[@CapitalTeeth]

People like to say the T'au don't fit the grim darkness of the 41st millenium. I just point to the dark age of technology and say that Humanity was a lot more like the T'au when they first ventured into the stars. Now all that I wonder is whether the T'au will suffer the same fate as the Imperium.

[@jackt4595]

seeing the path they are taking that's not a prediction that's a fact.I remember they once made general of theirs an Ai and the imperium basically used psykers and completely mindfuck him.Whats stopping chaos from simply corrupting the warmachines of the Ta'u once they become powerful enough.

[@jamesricker3997]

I believe it was Warp drive that weakened the barriers between the immaterium and reality. Every time a vessel goes into the warp and punches a hole between the warp and reality creating leaks

[@asaenvolk]

I think there was a WH40K comic that had a Man of Iron in it. The thing was kinda Necron like and mostly sadistic/curious. It was also deadly taking on more than a few Space Marines single handed. You are right though, it could have been Chaos that corrupted them, or it could have been the Void Dragon that was behind them.

[@TheArklyte]

Games Workshop has problems with Men of Iron lore because they have 1)no time period to put them into, 2)nothing short of Necrons that can compete with them, 3)they have really bad authors...

[@tactiti0n]

Mainly the last one...

[@leopoldjenkins]

one of the best videos you guys have done. A really tough topic but you nailed it.

[@xuantaotang577]

Basically stellaris played too long and cpu crash when 3 endgame crisis are coming?

[@Vasileski88]

Warhammer has amazing lore. I only recently discovered it. I keep thinking, why don't they let the emperor die and just rely on technology once again (without building AI).

[@bernardvaneesteren4935]

Vasileski88 Successful navigation through the warp in its current state is near impossible without the Emperor. Without the Emperor, humanity is fucked.

[@ElvishShellfish]

HERETIC!

[@mojo_joju]

I like how you put scenery from Mass Effect and the Crucible in here. I love mass effect, and seeing it pop up here is pretty refreshing

[@falloutgod1073]

Imperium: look at this glorious war machine (terminator armor) GAH: Homie that’s just a deep space mining suit. Imperium: wat

[@TN-xx4ih]

4:49 aren't those Helgans from KillZone?

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

Yes... I noticed it too!

[@DavidAkhter]

Goes well with the Warhammer 40k universe

[@ABW941]

I find it interesting that both of the great Tabletop games of the 90ies Warhammer and Warzone (which may rise again, since they are producing beautiful 3d printed figurines and stuff at the moment) had some way to NOT include real A.I. and tone down Technology. The Iron men were tainted by chaos, and the AIs of the Warzone-Universe became unreliable because of the Dark Symetrie. Would those things somehow make the Tabletop games less enjoyable?

[@ABW941]

***** Thats bad, I just hope they wont flop in general like they did last time. I didnt have time to buy some of them, nor did I last time.

[@edpistemic]

You'd have thought that the Emperor should have revealed himself and taken leadership of Terra during the war with the Men of Iron, or at least once the warp storms meant the 'federation' began to crumble. Could he not have avoided the Age of Strife?

[@namekman01]

some would say that the 'emperor' is no human at all, but an old one seeking to recreate his race. his previous main servant species, the eldar, failed him, the orks, too wild and dumb to be of use, but humans... well, they could be used well. some would say that... not me... im not a heretic who believes in the greater good or anything... hate those guys...trying to be good and shit... .>

[@edpistemic]

I certainly prefer the idea of Old One involvement to the 'combined reincarnation of primitive human packers' explanation.

[@namekman01]

edpistemic human psykers? idk what a packer is

[@edpistemic]

Ha ha - yes, it seems that Safari's spellcheck doesn't include 'psyker' !! Heresy!! :D

[@AJ49377]

no thats a improbable theory. he was most likely made in part by the old ones like the eldar

[@Theri4444]

+OneMindSyndicate the reason Psykers were not affected by chaos for thousands of years is because of the Eldar, the Eldar kept control of the war and kept the chaos gods imprisoned and created their own gods to fight chaos and keep chaos stuff at bay, until Slaanesh was born - oh and the Eldar ruled for 40 millium after the war of heaven

[@deanrichardson5460]

Man we used to kick so much ass, and now we use flashlights. All because some shitty space elves literally fucked reality.

[@Priceluked]

dean richardson Lasguns are not flashlights. A hellgun can penetrate Astartes armor.

[@thomasmontgomery958]

Goddamn reality fucking space elves XD

[@Sorain1]

Okay to be fair, the modern imperial Lasgun is basically a hunting rifle. Back in 30k, the Imperium used Lasrifles, which make Hellguns turn green with envy at their firepower. The Lasgun is this rugged hunting rifle being employed en-mass, meanwhile Lasrifles were the equivalent of assault rifles. Imperial Army was hilariously better equipped then the Imperial Guard is now. Still the Eldar's fault though.

[@tauempire1793]

Suggestion:What was the human Confederation like in society and how did they react to Xenos Races

[@fernandolastarria474]

This 40 facts of 40k are my KZbin favorites. Cheers guys!

[@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898]

I just though of an idea: a Moonraker-esc battle game set before the Unification Wars, what about designs for realistic transports, gunboats and other orbital vehicles, based on the I.S.S, the space shuttles, and Space Race era technology for such a skirmish?

[@gtmerchant1935]

They won't expand on the Man of Iron because SOME mystery is required to make a setting compelling, Same as the 2 lost legions. Also, they have Necrons, so..... more robot factions? Naahh...

[@navilluscire2567]

GTMerchant1 GTMetchant1 There is never enough robot factions!! That's like saying we don't need more marine chapters!

[@Azreal123]

Hey Syndicate Have you ever seen anything on the creation/invention of Gellar fields? Warp travel was discovered after the original skimming method I guess, which meant they knew that the warp existed, they did not know what it contained. The first ships that will have entered the warp itself for testing travel would surely be lost, possession/destruction by the warp/contents. No one who sent a ship off into the warp will know what they need to create to protect the ship in the first place. A ship that survived a short jump probably would be found with a crew driven mad or dead, so no learning there on what to do next time. They would also have not discovered a need for navigators or started breeding a strong mutation of them. Which asks the same set of questions. Rev

[@antodiyo7523]

Yeah just like in the event horizon movie

[@537monster]

So basically the empire during the Age of Technology was the Roman Empire, and the Imperium of Man is the Holy Roman Empire.

[@authoraven]

@0:47 that is mass effect, it is heresy using a mass effect pic on war hammer 40k video. i demand exterminatus on your location (and i realize now most of your videos comments has "heresy" word, more than any other videos. i even think the word of "heresy" mostly used in this comments in all real human history)

[@plutarchvonpluto6439]

Don't worry. The reapers are on it.

[@QUADEeee]

He's on holy terra... YOU PLAN TO EXTERMINATUS HOLY TERRA?! HERESY!

[@j.vinton4039]

I should go....

[@RexMK-]

Basically, The "Dark" Age of Technology was basically the golden age of Mankind, the imperium of man is basically the Dark age after the fall of Rome.

[@SuperEone1]

Only difference is they will most likely not go through a renaissance

[@RexMK-]

@@SuperEone1 Not unless something like an apocalitic event that wipes out the Imperiun of Man leaving no trace behind that forces humanity to start from scracth happends

[@similaritiesendhere]

I like how the creators of this table top game don't understand that science can not be worshiped before creating 40,000 years of lore based on that exact idea. The scientific method just says that you should test something before you double down on your belief of whether it's true or not. You can believe whatever you want, but before you strap a man to a rocket and aim him at the moon to harvest cheese, you might want to ask a few questions... run a few experiments... The chaos gods are the natural result of the psychic manifestations of sentient organisms. In a world where psychics are real, chaos gods would still be dangerous, but not outside the realm of science. The "emperor" is the amalgamation of a bunch of ancient psychics/psykers. So, let's go back and look at this lore again. The emperor wasn't genetically engineered. The primarchs were. The primarchs weren't as capable of suppressing the influence of chaos as the emperor. Instead of making a bunch of primarchs genetically, why not make more emperors. As long as they don't believe that they are gods (megalomania). You're going to sacrifice god knows how many psykers a day to keep the emperor "alive" when you could just create new "emperor" like beings? The emperor was a power hungry dick.

[@Gamespud94]

A few points. 1. When they say that "science was worshipped" it may not be quite what you're thinking. It could be simply technology worship, or more likely, remember that this is all being reported from the bias of the 41st millennium where we've had 10k years of propaganda making science and technological progress heretical. My personal theory would be that the very ideas that science can conquer any obstacles humanity might face and atheism due to lack of evidence of the divine are what they would in the 41st millennium consider "worshipping science". 2. You can't just "make more emporers"... he was a one of a kind... firstly it simply may not be possible to recreate it, much less would it be a safe or even prudent thing to do. And finally, how much more heretical can you get than saying "Hey I know our god who has watched over mankind since before we knew how to farm is near death so how about we just kill him off already and make ourselves a new god.".... Good luck with that. 3. The emporer himself wasn't all that bad of a guy... a brutal dictator.. but he didn't consider himself a god. In fact he specifically wanted not to be worshipped and even led crusades against cults that sprung up worshipping him. It's only now that the emporer is so near death that he can't defend himself that those cults have finally gained power and taken over his agenda. (edit: lots of editing to make these stupid paragraphs separate because its not working with me atm and this is the best it gets...)

[@alexanerose4820]

Science as the method, not really. Science as something you hold all above else with a dogmatic fervror.... that kinda makes it worship. Also, I would consider beings who could do almost anything outside the realm of science.

[@alexanerose4820]

***** Huh I never thought of it that way and hey thanks for the new word :D

[@alexanerose4820]

The Greater Ark Really like who?

[@alexanerose4820]

The egnimatic Account I think they were translating science to knowledge but hey, thanks for that infe. I forgot about Thoth (It is Thoth right?)

[@TheAussief1]

Iron men, and the IAs, were they based on the void dragon tech, which allowed the dragon to send a signal to all of them to go berserk at one single point of time? This was it’s way to escape capture in the chaos of war.

[@Cynocehali]

love this, I got my little bro into this and now he has tyranids.

[@botondkalocsai5322]

I think if chaos corruption caused the rebel of men of iron, then we have a HUGE contradiction in the Warhammer 40k universe. I mean it is always sad that non-warp present objects cannot be corrupted by chaos. It is kind of rule in Warhammer 40k universe and for this reason, Necrons as machines are immune to chaos corruption. Moreover, even there are biological races the rule also applies to because they don't have warp presence, like Tau. Then it should be impossible for the chaos to corrupt directly the men of iron against humanity if Warhammer 40k universe consequent with its own rules. If that happened, then it is a large plot hole, which should be corrected. However, it is possible to the chaos to make rebel the men of iron against humanity indirectly. At that time there could be started the first chaos cults. If these chaos cults were present and had members that are professionals at cybernetics, programming, then it is possible that chaos, for example, Tzeentch gave or approved that idea to turn machines against the rest of humanity. Thus they could have programmed malware, that was installed on one of the nodes of the network of men of iron, spread across the federation, and reprogrammed machines, to rebel. Of course, it could only work if there were nearly real-time federation-wide data communication, amongst the units of men of iron. (This also includes that humanity at that time employed non-organic warp communication technology). But if these conditions weren't met then only local riots of machines were possible to create, which is unlikely to spread across fastly the federation, because machine should have wiped out local forces, capture warp capable ships, and fly to the next larger assets of men of iron to infect them with the malware in sequence, which takes time. It also wouldn't cause the complete riot of men of iron assets, because the federation would react, and secure the remaining not rebelled machines, during that time. On the other hand, that type of chaos influence is not a real chaos corruption. It is a pseudo-corruption because machines can't feel emotion or devotion, cannot worship (they can emulate such things but it is very unlikely to humanity programmed such things into them, and this emulation is also an artificial thing, doesn't have the effect of real sentients). It is just a high priority sequence of commands, thus they don't feed directly chaos gods.

[@antodiyo7523]

Could it not be a possibility that the Men of Iron rebelled due to influences from the C'tan void dragon? I think the Ai, while autonomous, were linked together in a network, where the VD 'piggybacked' the signal and forced them to kill all sentient life, if not consiously, instinctively due to its hunger. Making them 'neo-necrons' in a way.

[@100thMkey]

Because 40k is so far in the future, it could possibly contain almost all other lores as part of its distant past! XD

[@infamousempire8302]

Until you remember that most si-fi franchises take place between the years 2100 and 3000 while according to 40k, humans didn't discover FTL until the 18th millennium.

[@Xo-3130]

Except some Sci-fi Do franchises end with humanity either going intergalactic long before 40k [Star Trek EU, Doctor Who, Andromda, Futurama, even Mass Effect] or rarely take place long after The Imperium [most notably Doctor Who with humanity somehow become one of the last species in the universe 100 trillion years in the future)

[@246vili]

Maybe the Man of Iron found a Nekron tomb full of "sleeping" Nekrons and after somehow getting their memories, they thought it would be a good idea to try out a "red harvest".

[@Dcyph3rx]

Literally reading out the wiki word for word and in the same order T_T

[@frederikoosthuizen433]

This is why i like tau, humanity is already fucked from what they had which is to much of a loss for my liking

[@asaenvolk]

aah the Necrontyr MkII

[@chaosmarine5532]

If they lose the capability to warp travel, the Imperium is pretty much done for.

[@asaenvolk]

Chaos Marine55 so are the Tau... the Tyranids are fine however

[@chaosmarine5532]

asaenvolk That is exactly why the Imperium, Tau and Eldar needs to work together. But that is probably still very unlikely to happen, unless one of the primarch returns and realizes that they can't win this war of attrition on their own.

[@asaenvolk]

Chaos Marine55 Yes, I understand that, but they are fundamentally screwed by one thing... the themes of the setting: "Grim Dark" and "Only War" come to mind... to the point some times it kinda gets in the way IMHO, but that's okay I am out voted, and that is how life is.

[@donttread5414]

What music is used throughout the video?

[@thegreatcollector4548]

the men of iron are Terminators

[@thegreatcollector4548]

get John Conner

[@nilubensonofnimruzir1637]

Except 100x worse.

[@nuke7777]

We are not gonna talk about a ship from that area that was the size of a football field took out a whole imperial fleet then went out side the galaxy called the spirt of eternity.

[@ethangray9805]

I like how there was a picture of the citadel from mass effect in a warhammer video

[@KGBx988]

I guess that there was one Man of Iron called Cesar who first said 'NO!'.

[@justicesinatra8414]

Also some youtube random video said star wars would totally kick warhammer 30k universe, what total bullshit i mean just look at the frigging armies of astrates alone!

[@theexchipmunk]

In the end it depends on tecnologie and mass. Because every war at a galactic scale would be an war of attrition. And the star wars reality with its droid/clone armies, starship mass production etc. has clearly the upper hand. Even if your weapons are not as powerful, if you have 10 times as much you will most likely win. BUT the most important pice would be the FTL technology. The ships of warhammer 40k travel through the Warp. They often need weeks to months or arrive not at all. (or before they even have started) Navigation is pretty sketchy and often unreliable. And communication is slow and very inaccurate. In comparison the FTL´s of the Star Wars reality are fast. Insanely fast. They can travel from one end oft the galaxy to the other in days. It is extremely accurate and safe. And they can hold real time conversations from one end of the galaxy to the other. This simple fact makes them far superior. It enables them to plan a galactic war in realtime. Even if you are not as powerful, if you know everything before your enemy and are so fast they can't catch up they will not beat you.

[@HarrDarr]

Problem is, with Warhammer it's just on a such larger scale than Star Wars, wherein Star Wars Coruscant is a unique planet, because it is one giant city, warhammer has thousands of coruscants with hundreds of trillions of people in their galaxy spanning empire. another matter of size is ships and their outputs, using the Star Destroyer from Star Wars as an example, it's one of the biggest, most technologically advanced mass produced ships in the star wars universe, meanwhile in warhammer a ship of equal size, like a dauntless class LIGHT cruiser is about as big, while the biggest war hammer ships will dwarf any star wars vessel outside of the death star itself.

[@gryf92]

Warhammer could win attacking administrativ/manufacturing/cloning centers in SW uniwers. But long war of attrition could give the age to SW due to cloning/AI/adaptability of technology/comunication/logistics Also Imperium cant even deal with Tau, so conquering "Proper" Galactic Empire/Republic seams unlikely. Not to mentioning how many potential alies for oponent Imperium has.

[@aegis0305]

Space superiority beats armies. Scaring a planet to surrender is faster and less destructive than landing armies across continents which would take years of conflict. Starving planets through space superiority especially hive worlds means imperium planets would turn immediately for the chance to be treated like actual people. Guardsmen turn and run its canon which is why commissars are so violent and brutal to their soldiers. Faster And more reliable FTL vs a SM that is so rare the humans that do know about them think they exist as only legend. I plan wars. SW wins

[@Apathologicalsextant26]

I think 40k would win here's why. Star Wars has the upper hand in advanced technology and better FTL, the imperium has the upper hand in resources including troops, experience, and defense measures. Because the imperium has been at war for thousands of years with numerous xenos civilizations they have to be prepared to handle ANYTHING. They may not be as fast or advanced compared to Star Wars but they make up for it in siege warfare I mean have ever tried invading a hive world, Emperor forbid a fortress world. Well it's not so easy it's damn near impossible and by the time your remaining weakened and tired forces crack through the first line of defense an entire fleet has already jumped out of warp space to exterminate the remaining forces. I mean other than that the decision is pretty clear. It's Warhammer 40k.

[@Masonicon]

Men of Iron should more like flesh and blood livig organism than metal robots(they specifically looks like Grey Aliens) where in the end of DAoT, they become vessel for Warp entities

[@nickdahl203]

Who the hell is Ilbrant Gaunt? Do you mean Ibram Gaunt?

[@Masonicon]

this era is where "Science before Reason/Logic" term come from

[@chrisreay7033]

What is the music starting at 3:20 ?

[@matthewparrish9309]

How about something on wormholes and blackholes, and how they would affect astrogation and commerce in the 40k universe?

[@lordaloa]

What is the background music you use?

[@Andreazor]

Has anyone ever remarked that you sound a bit like Satan in Leo & Satan? It's a good thing.

[@baburik]

want to know more about Men of Iron - google for Butlerian Jihad =_=

[@DeafLord18]

Spown lol when I first got into 40k tabletop I thought the same when I heard about the men of iron.

[@TheLordboki]

No doubt Warhammer was at least somewhat inspired by earily Dune novels.

[@baburik]

somewhat? and the whole immortal God Empror shtick? Heinlein's Starship Troopers, Azimov's Foundation, Tolkien's LotR (stol... "inspired" twice via WH->WH40k) and many more... I have yet to see at least one original element of WH.

[@TheLordboki]

Well, yeah, I agree, they aren't original. I'm just not sure how many of them were directly from Dune. To be fair, though, most of literature is a collection of progressively older tropes and elements that just evolved through time.

[@nilubensonofnimruzir1637]

Apparently the Men of Iron, and probably by extension, DAoT Humanity had serpent-like space stations the size of Saturn's rings called Sun Snuffers which, as you would expect, snuffed out suns. They also had massive robots called Mechnivores that literally devoured entire cities, down to the core itself, used continents like pebbles, and ate reality itself, leaving Warp Rifts in their wake. Oh, and they had nanotech that could strip all life on a planet in seconds. And this was recorded by someone who lived and fought in the fucking cybernetic rebellion. The guy (apparently Ollanius Pius) said that the rebellion of the Men of Iron was so fucked up that a normal human couldn't even comprehend it and that the Heresy couldn't even fucking compare. Either this is complete bullshit or the Men of Iron could give the Necrons during the War in Heaven a run for their money.

[@informationyes]

My theory is its basically when star wars happened, mitocloreons = spychic powers/ Dark side = chaos

[@justins2454]

lol kind of thought that to the darkside gets fed to mutch a few thousand years go by and wam!!! 40k but wait thare is no earth in starwars

[@jondeoliveira8248]

Daniel rogers Star Wars is in the distant past from now, WH40k is in the distant future.

[@informationyes]

Jon De Oliveira The dark age of technology is in the distinct past from 40k

[@jondeoliveira8248]

Daniel rogers still, Star Wars happens in a distant past relative to now, and in another galaxy to boot.

[@ADADEL1]

More like Eclipse Phase than Star Wars.

[@damonselman636]

7:43 Go Cowboys. (I am also a Rangers, Mavs, Stars fan btw)

[@NegiTaiMetal011]

It would be interesting to see that humanity still retains all of their advanced tech and enlightenment in their fight against Chaos and hostile xenos such as Tyranids, Orks and Necrons. While Space Marines still exists, they might even make super soldiers in the likes of Deathstroke and Halo Spartans, make clone armies and cyborgs (that will not turn on humanity). It may sound crazy, but think of what's it like to have techs from COD (Advanced Warfare, Infinite Warfare, Black Ops III), Titanfall, Killzone, Star Wars, Crysis, Halo and Command & Conquer Tiberium series and Red Alert series in 40k. That would be awesome, in my opinion.

[@brickcraftproductions3065]

Shinku Kirito Ichika Ok so with all other Franchises combining to make this Pre-Imperium Human Empire, I can expect Space Marines with Lightsabers, Power swords, Nano suits, Imperial Guardsmen with Soliders that Resemble Helgast Troops, or GDI soliders, Ships that Resemble the Warships Ancient Terra that were used when they were united as a United planet Nation (UNSA) all colonizing our Solar System and Get into a Civil War with Humans from Mars (SDF), Servitor's with Implants in their brains that allowed them to have the brain processing power of a Computer (Direct Neural interface) Exo Sults from a Technological Advanced Magacorporation and a Bio Weapon that Killed only Heretics, and Anyone who dosent have their DNA Signature in the Imperium's database (Atlas from AW) a Magacorporation that Creates The Men of Iron and Imperial Knights and is the Majority of the Adeptus Mechanicus (IMC from Titianfall) as well as a Jump Drive that Folds time allowing for Faster than light Travel making Journey between space less Dangerous since it Removes the Warp's Influence, a Japanise Technologically Superior Faction that is our Version of the Tau Empire (Empire of Rising Sun from C&C RA3)

[@Glace1221]

Sounds like the current time in 40K is the true dark age.

[@coinkidink9997]

I would love a video game set in The Dark Age of Technology.

[@REVOisMYname]

I would like to see a "men of iron" army race in the future

[@barbiquearea]

Where did you get all those cool pics of the futuristic human society from the Dark Age of Technology?

[@alanaspinall7147]

Not all human religon vanished,Christianity made it to the 31M

[@NationalDevin]

Question about the transitional lore between the two genre's of this IP. Are the Fantasy and Sci-fi universes connected in a broad sense. I've watched a few videos, but haven't had much exposure outside of the 40k space marine and the first warhammer 40k pc game before I started watching these. I've seen and understand that so much time has gone on that people just don't know history outside of "Recent" events and hinted at legends, but is this an IP where once everything started on one world, then eventually evolved to the point that, for whatever reason, all the species were spread out among the stars. Or is this one of those situations where they just took their fantasy IP and transitioned things into a scifi world.

[@owenthomas2914]

they were closely liked in the older law, more recently it tends to be seen as two separate universes both of which have been invaded in different ways by the Chaos that dwells between realitys.

[@Nevwermore]

Thx alot for this awesome videos.

[@SS081985]

So its basically, STARWARS turned WARHAMMER 40K

[@osheamat7549]

Lol at 7.54 you can see the sign says dallas cowboys!

[@allmight2611]

Damn really informative video guys

[@avivfrai4858]

0:43 why is there a picture of the Citadel?

[@operationkilled]

I came here because someone commented something like this... "Funfact: during _Dark Age of Technology,_ Baneblade was consider as light tanks." Light.... efffing light tanks...(also Leman Russ was also called light tanks too)...

[@gideonking5480]

Nice job OMS!!

[@bernardtoh6854]

How about the Horus Heresy? Would you do a video on that?

[@kaoshjerte]

What is the music playing in the background? It's in alot of your videos isnt it? It sounds awesome!

[@ThEPwNCreAtoR]

Iv'e been asking this for like 2 years my dude, if you have found it now, please do tell.

[@militustoica]

Eye-bram Gaunt, there's no "L" or "brent', lol. I know I'm correcting a lot of these but I'd like to say it's a cool format and I overall enjoy it.

[@Superslemmet]

"Anti-psycher programs" and "Anti-psycher pogroms" isn't the same thing... in case you didn't notice that? Though I guess anti-psycher programs were probably in effect too.

[@scionoftheemperor1240]

Can someone PLEASE tell me the name of the Music.

[@justicesinatra8414]

Itd be a great spinoff for dark age era to replace "the hobbit" in games workshop!

[@TheDude50447]

Science as a god? Formulating hypothesis and trying to falsify them with the available evidence can be worshipped as a god?????

[@trenchcoatbandit]

GOING THROUGH THE WARP?! *WITHOUT A GELLERFIELD?!?!*

[@raemunlai5830]

Whose the woman in the thumbnail?

[@leakycheese]

The content of this sounds just like an abridged version of Luetin09's epic video The Emperor of Mankind........

[@jacklees7497]

Just wondering if you could do a vid on orks during dark age and age of strife

[@SecondhandSamurai]

Woah woah woah go back. The Citadel is in the 40k universe?!

[@captainanopheles4307]

So the Human race is like a slow dying Eldar.

[@cardonajz1]

This era was Star Wars people, and when the sith won (chaos) humans fought them selfs either to be free or to oppress. Men of iron you say. Sounds like cis to me. Psykers? You mean jedi and a untrained one would probably go to the dark side.

[@Ikdulo]

11:26 that is the Citadel from Mass effect

[@CorvusCorone68]

have you guys done a 40 facts on life extension technology? like the Imperium has some sorta thing, i forget what they call it, some sorta treatment that can let you live hundreds of years, i remember i saw a fan-made video where an Inquisitor busted some noble who was said to have received that treatment by the Inquisitor, it was that one that had the High Inquisitor on a float in a procession, with like Space Marines marching and stuff, and then off to the side the Inquisitor and what looked to be an Imperial Guard soldier and i think there was one of those female assassins there too, they busted into that naughty noble's house and executed him, or at least i think they did, they may have just played with him and then hauled him off to be tortured for info, cuz if the Inquisition is interested in you you can bet they think you're part of a conspiracy