.40 s&w VS .45 acp in Ballistics Gel

[@EvilynKing]

In every video I've watched - the .40 has taken the cake. The .45 expands larger, but the .40 utilizes its energy better, therefore, creating a greater wound track. You're also getting higher capacity in a more compact gun. Everyone who despises the caliber needs to take another look!

[@Lee-rq1ek]

BUT, you forgot that the 40 is so "snappy" I can't shoot it crowd !!! I have carried the 40 cal for almost 29 years and have faith in the cartridge.

[@tarteen091311]

@@Lee-rq1ek I moved up from 9mm to a .40S&W now, got the Beretta PX4 Storm full size and added a compensator from vantage point armory barely any recoil with that combination

[@Lee-rq1ek]

@@tarteen091311 I live in SE Texas and can carry a Glock 22 comfortably even in summer. The 40-caliber cartridge is a good pistol cartridge especially in a full-size pistol. Many people repeat what they've heard others repeat.

[@EvilynKing]

I wonder if your losing velocity​@@tarteen091311

[@EvilynKing]

​@@Lee-rq1ekI carry a 23 and I'm an average size woman. It took some work but I can hit pretty tight groups at ten yards

[@frankbrowning328]

Either one is going to be a good stopper

[@josephpepper3087]

Thanks for testing the Silvertips and in a good test medium! I generally agree that .40 s&w > .45 acp > 9x19.

[@BillHimmel]

Solid test, real useful! I can see the usefulness of this .45 acp in scenarios where you have to avoid overpenetration at all cost!

[@adammitchell0]

Good video, I like that your testing light for caliber against light for caliber. You should do a hornady critical defense 45 185 against .40 165 grain

[@synystur21]

I like that you cut through the wound track, I dupont think I've seen any other channel do that before. Very good video!

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you very much, I appreciate that!!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

The 40 checked all the boxes pretty well. The 45 did really well all things considered. It would be better if it could penetrate a bit more but the stills tell a story also and the big bore didn't disappoint. The permanent cavity may not have been as large as one might desire but it wasn't insignificant for sure. If these are available and reasonable they wouldn't fail to be effective for purpose IMO. Thank you. Good comparison.

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you😁

[@meekman4842]

Just now running across your video. Thanks for that test. I've seen a number of 9mm Silvertip videos that are mostly failures. I'm glad to see it do its job in .40 and .45.

[@theoriginalOSOK]

I carry a Glock 22 stoked with 180 grain HST's - they have tested really well from what I've seen. Both those did good too. I do like a bit more penetration though...

[@silenceismycanvas]

Just a suggestion. I'd like to see a Nosler 40 S&W ASP 150 gr JHP test if possible. Compact and full sized pistols.

[@get_it_done4580]

Nosler 200 grn. Accubond (blue tips) jhp's are very good

[@mrwayne5158]

Thats the one Ive been wanting to see as well

[@matterickson5993]

I like the way you do these videos - chronograph, gel, and results... perfect!

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Good test, AZ, but a sub 1000 fps 185 in 45 ACP is downright pitiful! A 185 should be doing close to 1100 fps or more, which would probably put it close to 1000 or so out of a short barreled 1911. Not that the frangible Silvertip bullet would have done any better, it would have maybe made a slightly larger stretch cavity but penetration would have been just as poor! The 40 is a much better choice than the .45 in this case! My Speer 185 Gold Dots are doing very close to 1200 fps out of my 1911 Govt Model, which is the velocity a good 185 should be getting! None of this watered down junk for me! Cheers, jc

[@nokoolaid]

Underwood has 185g @ 1200. That should be close to 1100 in the shorter barrel. Most 45 stuff out there doesn't meet advertised specs let alone capability.

[@bullpup33]

It doesn't matter. Either one will take care business. I still love both calibers.

[@nokoolaid]

There are probably some 230g loads that will do as well velocity wise in that barrel length. 45 is kind of underloaded in a lot of ammo.

[@acid6urns]

short barrel .45 does absolutely awful most of the time. .45 is already moving slow, and it suffers MUCH more from velocity loss in a short barrel

[@nokoolaid]

@@acid6urns A short barrel will have an effect, but Federal HST works pretty well in a short barrel. Some ammo makers really drop the ball here. for instance, Hornady Critical Defense in 45 is supposed to get 1000fps out of a 3" barrel with a 185g bullet. I've seen videos where it doesn't make that with a 5" barrel. That's a problem and it's not because it's a 45, it's because the manufacturer is screwing over the customer in not delivering the performance as advertised. Buffalo Bore and Underwood generally perform very well by comparison.

[@acid6urns]

@@nokoolaid i don’t think you understand what i’m saying. even good ammo from a .45 in most 230gr loads that’s just shy of 1000fps out of say a 4 or 5 in barrel will see MASSIVE velocity drop going from a 5”-4” or 4”-3” in comparison to basically any other handgun round. .45 acp as a round is just simply more susceptible to bleeding velocity when shortening barrel length than other calibers are.

[@nokoolaid]

@@acid6urns I do, and to make matters even worse it's underloaded and by that I mean a lot of ammo doesn't meet published specs let alone what is possible.

[@rodolforivero7282]

Las .45 son ideales de 4 pulgadas para arriba. La pequeña mamba negra (Glock 27) es formidable con cualquier munición... ...amo a la mamba y al toro negro (Glock 30s). Ambas excelentes para portar...✌️

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

Win Silvertip in .40 is a very good round in nearly every test I've seen, including in its LE Ranger variant- ranger advertises like 1205fps the .45 mimics what Harrell's results show in terms of penetration. Short barrel .45 is disappointing usually in velocity. 332fpe what is the point? A micro 9 can develop that.

[@richki.24]

both did awesome ....

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

Great video as always. I preffer 45 Critical Duty and also 45+p in same as i am 6'5" with enough strength and power to handle that recoil. I also shoot a lot of 357 and some hot factory loads and used to bit of recoil. All thos complaining about "snapines", over penetration by 45 or any other rounds dont know their bullet designs, barrel lenght or dont train enough.

[@fanman8102]

Excellent; thank hanks!

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you!!

[@angrysheepdog9744]

The extra velocity in these light-for-caliber makes a difference. 45ACP's historical effectiveness is based on the subsonic round's huge expanded dimensions plowing a wide path. Shock-wave tissue disruption is velocity-based and exemplified in 357S/MAG crossing into hydrostatic shock territory. Ballistic studies have established the 125gr/1450ftps=583ft/lbs as the Gold Standard of defensive rounds dumping this energy in 12-14 inches and causing central nervous system (CNS) damage from the ballistic pressure wave. Water is not compressible which makes it an ideal medium to transfer energy to the brain.

[@acid6urns]

no pistol bullets produce hydrostatic shock except for maybe super hot .44 mag and up. pistols are extremely weak in comparison to rifles

[@angrysheepdog9744]

@@acid6urns Your theories are old. Hydrostatic shock begins at 9PBLE and goes up from there.

[@drewday6109]

Love the content

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you!! Glad ur enjoying. Appreciate ya!!

[@TheFlutecart]

Both look really good to me, but did you see that gel jump of the table for the .45? - That's the Fudd myth about delivered impact power. It may be over stated in the retelling, but it is real and both these rounds display it. Just a jiggle in the gel with a 9mm. But a 55gr 5.56 at 3000fps will make it jump too. The gel jumping up seems like a reasonable thing to observe about delivered energy. Fixed camera with a superimposed grid to measure it.

[@scottythebody0811]

Great comparison.

[@Fordgroup00]

The advantage of the .45 is you don’t get over penetration

[@unkorads1009]

thanks for the video, i'm for team 40sw. 🙂

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!!

[@ronaldwells4427]

Great information! Thanks 🎉

[@KMondy]

All right all right.

[@rangetime6779]

40 S&W wins this test. Good expansion and penetration. 45 ACP looked great but under penetrated and velocity was a little slow.

[@mpac8446]

How would you rate it on a home defense vs personal defense scaleq

[@TENACIOUSTHORNLEON]

NICE to see you used the Glock 27 which I carry. ----

[@bobbytowesr3387]

Im a fan of the 45 rock , not the greatest penetrator, but reliable and proven. A very good defence peice

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Both will work just fine.

[@goranmalnar5172]

Good video like always si. Ceep going .👌

[@AzAirgunner.]

Thank you sir!!

[@angel19642001]

I have the.40 and the.45 like them both

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

bad guy would not be having a good day if he met either.

[@gswguy4554]

AzAirgunner…… Out of all the Hollow points you’ve test…… Do you have any personal favorites in a given caliber?

[@willmorris8966]

I’d love to see a 200 grain 40 vs 200 grain or 230 grain 45

[@al01100]

200 is too heavy for the 40

[@jaratt85]

I don't get why everyone is so obsessed with penetration on handgun rounds.. You don't want penetration, you want it to dump all it's energy as quick as possible and make a massive shock cavity. That's how you kill with a pistol not by having a ton of penetration and zipping out the other side. The only time you want a ton of penetration power is when you're shooting FMJ's through glass or metal.

[@AvRail57]

Interesting comparison! I wonder how the 40 would do in a S&W shield 40?

[@frankbrowning328]

Should be very similar as the barrel lengths are nearly the same. Glock 27 3.43'' barrel & the S&W Shield 40 cal has a 3.1'' barrel

[@acid6urns]

@@frankbrowning328i would like to say you’re probably right as .40 doesn’t really suffer from velocity loss in short barrels as much as some other rounds, but sometimes.3” of barrel can make a large difference.

[@frankbrowning328]

@@acid6urnsI agree that the performance in the 40 is less hampered by barrel length. I shoot most everything so I like to know when possible how they perform in short barrels as I have short barrels in both 9mm, 40 S&W.

[@landofparadise2295]

40 has more damage than 45 ,40 damage 2inches 3/4 size hole while 45 only 2 inches size hole according for measurement

[@SDGlock23]

I've always felt the .40 did really well from shorter barrels whereas .45 typically doesn't. I like both, prefer the .40 just because it's on a smaller frame and gets good ballistics. I've chronographed 230gr ball .45 in the mid 700's from a G30...ouch! Overall I think the .40 works well from pretty much any barrel length and the .45 really likes the longer barrels, no so much the short ones.

[@emerald640]

Are the silver tips on the bullets aluminum or nickeled gliding metal? The original 1980's 9mm was aluminum and later WW moved to nickel plated gliding metal.

[@kennethferguson4283]

The .45 is just not a good short barrel round no matter the bullet weight. In this test the .40 got better much better penetration and produced more jell disruption.

[@justusbryant7366]

The 40 won.

[@EvMc305]

Usually does. Remember why the 40 came into play, fbi wants better then 9. 10mm developed, g men Pillow hands couldn't handle. Hence the 40. Years of 9mm development, 'good enough' much higher capacity. Single shot wound and terminal ballistics are extremely favorable. Round count is the only debate w 40 vs 9, not ballistics

[@justusbryant7366]

@mikelev2574 40 is a good round and it's not hard to shoot accurate. Everyone just love 9mm. In today's market it's all about no recoil and flat shooting.

[@EvMc305]

totally agree@@justusbryant7366 But the weirdos think 40 SW is somehow not effective or performs poorly evenly substandard compared to 9mm, when in reality the majority of terminal ballistic testing shows just the opposite. I carry mainly 9, then 380, the 40...shot placement always being the most important (:

[@Jujuj-g4n]

​@@EvMc305they can't hold their gun right

[@EvMc305]

That@@Jujuj-g4n and lack of practice. Put 500 rounds of 40 sw per month for a few months and it will be just another pistol (:

[@helluvademon3936]

1:40 paused for anyone who wants to see the 40. In the gel still spinnin

[@helluvademon3936]

Tbh somewhere between a min 39 sec's an 40 you get the whole picture Even the bullet hole in the shirt (cloth)

[@sgoell75]

My SR 40 uses a 180 grain 1100 fps and 484 foot pounds of force from underwood ammo!

[@Passportbro33Mark2]

Let’s see this exact same test done with a full sized barrel… of course the 40 won Because it got closer to the advertised muzzle velocity… Also, even with the lower power of the 45 look how much it made the block jump😮 all that energy went into the first block! The energy dump is what creates the shock which turns off somebody’s system i.e. the stopping power! Remember, foot pounds of energy are the deliverer. But shock is the delivery!

[@1badEK]

I know someone that would hit the table instead of the gel at that distance.

[@AzAirgunner.]

😄😂

[@ManOfChaiTea]

People are obsessed with over penetration, you dont need 18 inches, the idea is for the round to dump the energy inside the body, not blow out the back. Your heart and aorta are about 3.5 inches deep from the chest. yes 3.5. Human bodies are frail, take a ruler, measure on the body just how thick it is. 10 inches is more than enough. The .45 was designed to leave a big hole and dump all its energy.

[@josephpepper3087]

Gelatin isn't tissue and has no bones. It's merely a consistent test medium that is a similar density to relaxed muscle. Not all defensive gun shots are over the heart, at a 90 deg angle, and unobstructed. That's why more than 3.5 inches of penetration in test media is desired.

[@Texan-1911]

Bro 5 inch barrel vs compact

[@Papacopod-x5b]

Dont forgot 45 is low pressure round can be loaded up plenty more stopping power slower is better and safer on urban areas both very close like twins 45 acp has history on it,s side Taylor,d one shot stopping power chart 45 ball has (69) one shot stops not bad flat point mich better

[@WilliamSirman]

Check the bore diameter of that Rock Island! That round was too slow!

[@GBR1111-x2t]

they will both work for whatever needed. C'mon

[@danielrendon8555]

45 has always been overrated.

[@ManOfChaiTea]

Actually it really hasnt. If you understand the human body and location of vitals, you will learn it does the job very well. Your heart and aorta are only 3.5 inches deep in the chest..

[@kevmac1230]

Overrated you say? Tell that to it's tens of thousands victims killed in war since the 1900s

[@kenf2662]

You have got better ballistics testing form different brands in both 45acp and 40sw . I see just crappy ammo

[@svcag1780]

Ok

[@johnatencio9524]

A glock isn't a S&W.

[@rickybristersmusic3658]

lol. Kidding right?

[@andyeighttre]

Just here to read all the 9mm fans act like Kamala voters to 40sw fans.

[@travisstankowski7495]

Why do 45 people have to prove a 100 year old round is relevant. It's on the wayside. If you want a heavy gun with a low capacity good for you. The fact is 10mm is the best auto. Deal with it.

[@themudshark1106]

10MM. is over kill in many ways. 1. Over penetration is a fact it can go trough the next 2 people behind your actual target. 2. Follow up shots suck. In rapid fire follow up shot situations. 10MM has allot more muzzle flip way more rise and takes you off center in rapid fire situations that not an advantage but a disadvantage on top of the extreme over penetration.

[@travisstankowski7495]

@themudshark1106 Some people don't want to empty a mag into a target like the lapd. One or two shots is all that is needed in a defense situation. I'm sure you're somebody that thinks you should deer hunt with a 5.56.

[@themudshark1106]

@@travisstankowski7495 No I'd rather deer hunt with my X-Ray Bow and Arrow or my Radar Shotgun.

[@travisstankowski7495]

@@themudshark1106 That's cool. I'm sure you do.

[@kevmac1230]

There's nothing to prove.Dead is dead.

[@priestof1s]

40 should have been 180 grain be closer

[@independentthinker8930]

That's weak ammo!

[@robertb880]

Personally I don't use light bullets in any of my glock40's and I get almost the same size wound cavity and still more depth. Ill never change from that weight the round was actually designed for.

[@toddd7444]

@toddd7444 0 seconds ago try the new?gold dot 45 acp 200 grain +p dead sure or deadwheelchair larry

[@GregoryAlcorn-o3g]

I hate to tell you this brother but hardly anybody uses standard pressure 45 anymore man maybe some Old-Timers but the new generation are using at least plus pee and 45 Soopers and 450 smcs and 460 Rowlands man Old 45 standard pressures basically becoming useless man