4000% Burst✅ Powercreep Mechanics✅ | Jinhsi Max DPS CN Guide!

[@justjuniorjaw]

Love her gameplay flow. She hits hard, and feels good to use.

[@eXian12]

Just a suggestion. Please add some English overlays on the one you're talking about not just encircling with your cursor so it emphasizes and retain attention to some audiences. You have a good guide.

[@bluezkatz7]

English visual learner here - agreed. Your words were meaningful, but I absorbed nothing.

[@valzohra3107]

The 3cost ATK% vs Spectro debate depends on your weapon and echo substats. Rule of thumb; With her signature weapon, ATK + Spectro. Everything else, double spectro. Above everything, use the ones with better substats.

[@Nicolascolau]

its seems that if you have her s4r1+ the best is 4 4 1 1 1

[@dwiatmika9563]

pretty sure both verdan summit and her sig weapon grants 12% spectro, so I think you need either one of those

[@Quint03]

What if same substat numbers? Is spec + atk better?

[@ludicolo1106]

I dont know if jiyan dps same with jihnsi or not But my jihyan use 75/285 aero/atk better than aero/aero 75/285 both have same crit and cdmg but the difference is only in atk value 35k+ ulti damage from aero/atk vs 32k+ ulti damage from aero/aero Its full buff condition with mortefi and verina. Jiyan skill still no upgrade in lv 1 Since verina can buff atk%

[@Jaguarfan928]

@@ludicolo1106You don’t actually want Verina with Jinhsi unless you have Yinlin on the team.

[@tacticalmechtank5556]

They called her a gen2 character already lol.

[@hanabiilesley]

lmao

[@frankjr.3916]

What's funny I don't get it ?

[@HaduBlood]

​@@frankjr.3916game just came out and we are having gen2 characters alrdy. this new resonator is waaaaaay ahead of everyone

[@0kaiKai]

It's not fair. She's 1rs real limited DPS. Jiyan was unfortunate release. Being weaker than Encore is a shame.

[@AscnetAgent]

It makes me curious about what the magistrates in the next cities will be like. I'm sure one of them can summon black holes or somesht 😂

[@Doctor_Yiggles]

Thank you for the extensive and very in-depth guide Tim! I was planning to pull for her & her weapon so this has me excited for her!

[@esyriz]

Theorycrafters at jinhsimains calced taoqi and yuanwu as highest damage, although taoqi takes forever for concerto, yuanwu doesn't need to use concerto and only needs to swap in really quickly for E

[@vijaayreddy437]

Link to the video pls

[@forcodingg1287]

It's Old Calcs. Now Taoqi at 100%, Yinlin at 92% and Yuanwu at 89%. They Update it yesterday. Also it's Really Important that Taoqi need Discord Weapon to do that Fast rotation. Her rotation will feel A Lott Slower without it, You better off just used other option.

[@TimaeuSS]

yea they did mention it in the CN vid, that if you sacc your 3rd slot support/healer and just use a quick swap YuanWu, you get a free massive dmg boost

[@esyriz]

@@TimaeuSS Jinhsi mains were more focused on jinhsi-yuanwu-verina and jinhsi-taoqi-verina, i dont think they looked into jinhsi without verina much since verina has great off field attacks

[@indyvidual3917]

This is the way!

[@Tam-lv1mp]

This is literally dhil all over again man. Actually insane.

[@kienmaple]

The reason you see a 200k damage nuke is because of the massive current TOA buff for her thats gives 30% attribute dmg + 60% res skill dmg. She's actually way more comparable to Jiyan without it. Also that showcase is an S6 Jinhsi which is very misleading. Also Yuanwu is completely viable since his coordinated attacks arent locked behind his ult and he only needs to come in and put e down, leaving more time for other units. His outtro is also perfect for bosses

[@BaCo-rt8yy]

I Love to put yuan wu in team to play but i lose 50 50 ...really want to get jinhsi but cant miss changli

[@chupunggatv6416]

Is Yuanwu better than Mortefi?

[@UltimateSafireSun]

@@chupunggatv6416if u have S4+ morti can be one of the best to pair her with like the video mentioned

[@LadyMouzon]

Incredible video with a great breakdown. One of the best explainers on her rotation, kit and playstyle.

[@nmjdf_ksd23]

just redid all holo 6 except for aix damn shes so strong and fun

[@Hoontarius]

She can also Wanderer fly if you spam dodge mid air, its kinda nuts

[@yoursteban3713]

Your calculations on weapons are wrong. If the f2p banner option does 70% damage of her signature, it doesn't mean that her signature deals 100%-70%=30% more damage. It's actually (100:70*-1)100%=43% more damage. The difference is crazy, especially for a main dps.

[@sword9662]

she looks awesome gl to anyone pulling, i'm conflicted because i don't want the game to be ez mode yet :/ the lv 90 sim bosses were fun to do with lv 60/70 starter characters and something about a game you can't autobattle in makes me want to make it more challenging for myself

[@idrah3041]

Timaeu, always on time with those juicy CN translated guides, very nice

[@MegaMrASD]

People just don’t know what main dps and sub dps is anymore I swear to god. She is the main DPS because she does the majority of the teams over all damage, and she is a burst DPS because she does all that damage in a very short high impact window. I don’t know why the community lately has had such a hard time grasping this simple concept… until a character comes around one day that ends up pairing well with her but does more damage then her, she is a main DPS

[@Tam-lv1mp]

What do you mean? I haven’t seen anybody call her not a main dps. Of course she’s a main dps

[@MegaMrASD]

@@Tam-lv1mp well he mentioned that he wouldn’t use main dps or sub dps but instead burst dps. I assume that is in reference to the insanity what has been going on these past couple months about people confusing all of these terms, most recently people not understanding that off-field dps and sub-dps aren’t the same thing during the Yinlin reviews. Main-DPS/Sub-DPS are completely separate things from off-field/on-field/burst dps. One refers to their role (which is determined by the team composition), the other to their archetype (which is determined by their kit), and it seems most people lately don’t know this anymore and I don’t understand where this confusion suddenly came from lately. He is correct however that her Archetype is Burst DPS not Main DPS. No character is a main DPS by default. If you pair her with Yinlin but Jinshi has garbage echoes and Yinlin has god rolls, Yinlin will be the main DPS of that team since she will easily outdamage Jinshi.

[@slashroar]

Well it's all sementics. To me a main dps is a character that will take most of the team field time. If she's gonna be on field as long as the other characters, I don't really see her as a "main dps", but yeah calling her a burst dps makes more sense to me. But there is no real definition set in stone, so no need to be so pedantic about how people call things.

[@Tam-lv1mp]

@@MegaMrASD I dont see it as field time, but rather who the team is built around. with jinshi, your team is going to all be put into buffing jinhsi trying to get as much dmg out of her as possible. she provides nothing for her teamates and her teamates provide everything for her. field time or not, i think that is main dps.

[@MegaMrASD]

@@Tam-lv1mp I see you are also confusing it like everyone else. Field time has absolutely nothing to do with main-DPS/sub-DPS. Field time has to to with her being a Burst DPS. She is the main DPS, because she does most of the teams DPS, literally nothing else matters. Whoever does the most damage on your team is the main dps period

[@kagelevel]

very thorough and detailed specifics. Great explanation, excellent guide! 🔥

[@luv.fluffychan]

well i mean lore wise she is a magistrate so its only fair for her to be stronger than the units that are already in the game

[@feripuu]

Great guide! Jinhsi is gorgeous, strong, super fun and animations are amazing

[@unholyarthur1]

I hope WuWa doesn't get power creep issue as bad as Tower of Fantasy.

[@Asentis1]

TOF was mmo open world more reason to power creep that since players compete for rankings etc, wuwa basically single player game.

[@ymw1107]

​@@Asentis1HSR is also a single player game, but it also has pretty crazy powercreep

[@Asentis1]

@@ymw1107 is why I stated “more reason too” not a definitive reason

[@prohanta9360]

Anything with leaderboard tend to have powercreep. Not just tof but honkai 3rd, like half of honkai 3rd characters basically unusable as they're old and outperformed by new characters

[@MysticisM730]

@@ymw1107 I feel like hsr powercreep is pretty alright compare to other games

[@The.QuasiOG]

The team I'm going to be testing out later when I finish the story quest is Spectro Rover/Taoqi/Jinhsi. I know a lot of people have talked about Spectro Rover bringing spectro res reduction to the team, which is nice. But the main reason I want to test them out is for their outro skill. Swapping from Rover to Taoqi and having that stasis field up should practically guarantee that she lands all 3 timed counters. I also pulled 2 extra copies of Discord from the weapon banner, so having it 3/5 should help massively with her rotation speed. I'm sure it's not anywhere near the amount of DPS that a coordinated attack team will be able to put out, but it does sounds like it will be fun to play (and I desperately want to use Taoqi in a non-meme capacity). As long as it is capable of clearing harder content within their time limits, that's all I honestly care about

[@dagewastaken7236]

Jinhsi feels like a very good investment for the far future. The more we get stronger coop units, and characters who have good intro/outro that can take advantage of er Unity skill, she'll be a great addition to any team. Invest in the Magistrate now.

[@aoikishi99]

Interesting, she got so much spectro dmage from kit and the set stats to the point Sepctro + ATK 3 cost echo is slightly better than double spectro 3 cost. Spreadsheet waiting room here from en theorycrafter.

[@maymun1231]

Fire content right after I pull her, thanks Tim!

[@ldrag4963]

Her gameplay is so fun ! Nice guide as usual as well ♥️

[@jericohmagbanua6881]

Hey Timaeu, just a question so I have S4 jinshi and her sig what echo should I run for her and what’s best? 44111 or 43311 double spectro or spectro/attack

[@raymawn1453]

have you done any experiments on both?

[@jericohmagbanua6881]

@@raymawn1453 I did and I stick with double spectro as it deals more damage plus my 1 cost has attacks I would go for 44111 if I have attacks on my jue and aix

[@imtiazzulfadzli]

Idk if anybody already mention this. Jinshi actually have 6 star pattern on her back.

[@tungdohoang8197]

i see in the team comp that you mention about pairing Jinghsi with Havoc MC. Is spectro MC ok? because we can RC6 spectro MC in 1.1 already.

[@Nicolascolau]

finally a character i can go 4 4 1 1 1 ! lets put that crit damage high!!

[@james-bx4wr]

farm for more dmg: ❌ farm for more crit dmg: ✅

[@ajcafe1890]

why waste resources for 44111. lol.

[@Tram0825]

In the clip with morterfi and verina, is that Jinhsi S0R0? How can verina and Morterfi charge her forte so fast?

[@omeganoelf.6173]

s6

[@legionssb]

Does something like havoc Rover's outro skill count as coop damage, or is it just characters that add on their own attacks to the on field character?

[@blackoctober9804]

atks that keep dealing damage even when the unit is changed out

[@legionssb]

@@blackoctober9804 so havoc rover's outro does count, thanks

[@patrick6210]

My current reroll account I got yinlin in 30 pulls and her weapon around 70 pulls then I lost the 50/50 on jinhsi around 70 pulls. Would that be considered bad luck? Cause I’m feeling pretty shit now

[@SuperShackD]

I was saving for Camellya, but this video made me pull. Had to go to hard pity, but I got her. Time to grind astrite...

[@dailydozecatanddog]

50 pulls to bring her, her weapon and jianxin home. Man I just spent my entire luck today

[@frankjr.3916]

Just pulled her too but like the other she will collect dust because of the echo farming needed plus the proper rolls..

[@david_ace]

bruh I feel like everyone except me is lucky in this game

[@kylecarey4189]

Crazy luck for y'all. 40 here, got her and a Calcharo dupe. 2x Danjin, 1 Mortefi, 1 Sanua on the way there

[@MrKingmaster333]

165 pulls just for Jinhsi...rip me

[@Ilikegames804]

23 pulls for both her and the weapon granted I have guaranteed

[@Necr0e1]

RESIST! fellow chang li wanters!

[@void009-ye7dg]

I failed😂

[@hwbysi]

Same bro i failed 😅

[@wes0112]

I lost to temptation, sorry brother 😢

[@xxhopexx2002]

More like boob wanters 🙄

[@kurokenstein]

Bruh I lost 😂

[@mageofviolet2274]

What Echoes should I use for Yinlin here though ?

[@theprogamerxd8621]

Conclusion I lost my 50/50 to encore some days ago been waiting to get the free pulls and have deciding I’m getting her and her Damn weapon since i doubt I’m getting anyone in 1.2 anyways

[@hotpenguin607]

It's only 1.1 and we are getting a char with such a complicated kit Lol Its not hard to understand at the end of the day but I'd expect something this complicated to be in version 4.0 or idk 😂

[@sidthixaychoummanivong5643]

Highest Forte stacks is actually 41, of you don't believe me try counting those bars, there's only 41 and NOT actually 50 like it saids. Kuro Games really thought nobody would try to count it 😂 and at 7:15 that passive also DOES NOT work, the CD is still 3s for some reasons, IWinToLose did many test on it, and it only increases additionally every 3s not 1s.

[@xMomoee]

Bro the Forte bar count is fixed for every character you can't count her stack by each bar 😭

[@reteach8272]

​@@xMomoeecan't blame him for not trusting kuro translation😂, I lost trust on kuro's translation ever since I found out that some stats/numbers are incorrect Like alto out to for example, his outro description only says that he gives 23% anemo damage bonus, but if you test it it's actually 30%

[@theprosniper6370]

​​​​​@@reteach8272but he talking about counting stacks on each bar for the forte bar which is fixed for every characrer in 1.1, also from what I noticed I seen all en text got updated especially on so many characters, saw it in patch notes for 1.1 and it very long list, but yeah the en text is now correct

[@kyori75]

Her weapon description said 12% attribute mg bonus. So attribute dmg means elemental dmg??

[@GxkvvjydblkvKusuma-td8jo]

so she wants Mortefi too? how about my Jiyan? is it time to release Aalto feat Jiyan?

[@critxgaming2644]

Can you explain how Her S2 works?

[@ghoulixia]

just did 140 pulls for her.... SHES AMAZING

[@ShalltearBloodfallen666]

Not a single person on redit or youtube has said if her signature weapon or get "c1" r1 is better 😢

[@TheRovingPunster]

Iamrivenous's sheet has s1weapon at 42kdps vs s0 lustrous razor at 40kdps. However, her s2-3 are particularly good, so if you plan on buying 2 cons from the shop and already have lustrous razor, s3r0 beats out s2r1. In general though, weapons are transferable while cons are not, so you're almost always better off by just getting the weapon

[@PoyoPoyomfs]

@@TheRovingPunsterher s2 is trash bro

[@omeganoelf.6173]

Changli can change her look 3-4 times

[@hadmos855]

What about her eideleons? Or her resonance chain whatever it's called

[@Ilikegames804]

S6 you do 1mil-2mil that is all you need to know

[@yumit5045]

the one the in video is s6​@@Ilikegames804

[@Ilikegames804]

@@yumit5045 No it's S0R1 her dmg per screenshot is just that high

[@TuanLe-gl4yt]

Do Tambourinist Echo skill is count as cordinated atk? No one talk about that :L

[@chihaotran1568]

Jiyan gets power creep after 1 patch loll 😂😂

[@Osprey1994]

I told people she was going to pump...

[@Killgravios]

Tim show us teams with her that don't use Verina, she is already on my first team but i need a second one to beat the end game

[@jokesonu3412]

I regret pulling Jiyan lol, i don't even use him xD

[@KenLinx]

Why? You should. He's still in one of the best teams in the game and easiest one to play.

[@justjuniorjaw]

He's like the easiest character to play right now, and still hit as hard.

[@xorphz]

His damage is spread out but I don't think he's actually worse than Jinhsi by much, not sure though. He's still an AoE god.

[@iamkurogane]

I’m not a hardcore player. I’m spending most of my time in HSR and other games. For me Jiyan plays smooth as silk. I don’t have to think about him the way I have to with Calcharo. I can simply focus on the boss. Also Jiyan’s AOE is insane. It’s a matter of time before Mortefi gets power crept and I’ll be there to pick up that 5-Star too buff my Jiyan

[@phantomberzerk9486]

Lol u have the strongest char before jihinsi and dont use him

[@user-hu8xc7dz7j]

how that animation cancel works? how to cancel?

[@Corpse201]

240k as s0?

[@justjuniorjaw]

With her sig weapon, yes. Full stack nuke.

[@Tam-lv1mp]

This literally is dang heng IL all over again.

[@Corpse201]

@@justjuniorjaw damn

[@Corpse201]

@@Tam-lv1mp indeed

[@yumit5045]

no. the one in the video is s6

[@rickyelhaym]

s1 with jiyan sig, or s0r1?

[@raymawn1453]

what does 4+1 mean?

[@erenjeager4634]

Lets hope powercreep doesn't get too bad in this game

[@willburning6955]

In their other game It happened...they ended up buff all old characters

[@abpdaily4778]

What's E2 E3 E4?

[@mochicurry]

i got her s1 in 30 pull, should i go for her signature or s2?

[@Ilikegames804]

Signature the difference between Sign and other alternative is very large

[@mochicurry]

@@Ilikegames804 tysm

[@balitopic711]

if your ftp yingyang has the most ult scaling in the gmae um actually 🤓

[@hazoth379]

Done R6 her and got a copy of her weapon

[@ZeroTwo518]

Powercreep

[@luckytofu9617]

Mind sharing the original video?

[@yobruh6029]

Yes

[@justjuniorjaw]

It's always in the description, doesn't it?

[@Zukashimoto]

Can jinhsi weapon be used for calcharo?

[@wes0112]

I think so, calcharo r2 buffed up his skill with jhinsi weapon it will buffed up more, even without r2 i think it’s fine.

[@hwbysi]

Sad calcharo noises 😢

[@robertpowell1743]

90 PULLS no jinshi 1 10 pull got her weapon fml!

[@chupunggatv6416]

People arguing about powercreep and damage, me as an F2P just loving Madame magistrate as she is 😻😻

[@The_Real_Paradox]

My wish is to get her in the summons I can get by playing the update (cuz I have no summons atm ;-;)

[@Pookiesukuna]

Lol i got her in 30 pulls then straight after im not even cappinf ong i got her weapon on my first single pull o thought i wouldnt get anything so i skiped and it gave me the weapon lol so im basically stacked out

[@semivivusrex]

Feels boring to me.

[@ZackKing-uz5dn]

I lost the 50/50 xd

[@justsam100]

Why are they powercreeping characters already wtf. Always pull for supporters/sub dps characters in these games, you "top" dps is only going to last you a couple of patches.

[@Dokkae2bi]

Its really mostly cause she is the sentinel/magistrate of this game so she should be stronger than most 5 stars as per her status look at changli kit she doesnt even powercreep yinlin. So its only because of jinhsi status that she is this strong

[@Derael]

Your top support will only last you a couple of patches too by the same logic.

[@serv4ntPGR]

Lore...

[@giorno6086]

nah, always pull for waifus.

[@xorphz]

does she really power creep Jiyan that much?

[@brulckgui]

Wuwa is the best

[@jonathannigel8979]

Which is better, get her sig weapon or C1 first?

[@Derael]

Sig is always better, it's a massive damage boost compared to Jiyan's weapon, not to mention 4* weapons.

[@jonathannigel8979]

@@Derael Hmm I'll guess I pick the sig then. My broadblade is only Helios Cleaver xD I was about to use my corals exchange for her sig, but still considering saving if her C1 is better for long term. I have around 240 corals only though. Ty for the suggestion mate!

[@Prodigal450]

What is c1? You mean s1? This isn't genshin

[@Derael]

@@jonathannigel8979 Yeah, it's massive upgrade over any 4* weapon, that's for sure.

[@M33RAKL3]

Signature but if you have pulls leftover get her S1 unless you want future characters. Her S1 80% skill damage bonus is crazy

[@zirdcaster6678]

wow SSS+

[@GroundDragonIII]

The guide is good but I can't read Chinese.

[@ngphil11]

The powercreep is definitely giving me pause. Not only do the banners come and go too quickly but the concept of balance seems to be nuanced in this game. How can we have a character that is OP as a support AND DPS?? Granted this was gonna happen eventually but this is a bit obscene.

[@Seichensi]

People have to really sucks in these games, if they need OP dmg to clear content meant to be beaten by teens.

[@Exhau]

You need to be less hyped and incredulous when you're just explaining how the character is designed to be used. I'm here for information, not hype.

[@justjuniorjaw]

Tim is very impressed with Jinshi when he tested her : From her animation, ease of use, free grouping with dodge counter/4BA, how easy it is to parry, surprised by the Yinlin synergy, the new Echo, and how that laser dragon is practically a nuke compared to anything else we've seen in 1.0 beforehand. She's very impressive compared to what we had. It's just normal Timaeus. He will be hyped by CN analysis that shows him impressive showcases.

[@junn679]

​@@justjuniorjawnah, its his style tbh, maybe because of his voice or intonation

[@soufflecheeese]

then dont watch.

[@chill9148]

He gave information within his video? You're acting like he's a robot and can't show emotions. Just don't watch the video. I'd rather him talk like he's genuinely interested in the topic, while providing useful information, rather than him speaking monotone and uninterested for 20 minutes straight.

[@user_z01]

I guess 18 out of 19 minutes being informational is a bad ratio for you? Wtf is this comment