This dodge tech changed how I play Wuthering Waves

[@SweetilyVT]

So it turns out this does NOT work on Jiyan. Thank you to those in the comments who pointed it out! I double checked, and I also went and tested everyone else. Besides Jiyan, every other character ALL have Dodge Counter s. Maybe the dev's themselves forgot to add this in for Jiyan because they didn't think players would be dodging with him.

[@ANoobInvoid]

He automatically parries.

[@kerontv6297]

o7 our general

[@zibqq2006]

啊这不是吧

[@NoGround94]

@@ANoobInvoid If the move is able to be parried. If it isn't, there's nothing to parry and he gets wacked.

[@ANoobInvoid]

@@NoGround94 Yeah, he's best for bosses who has many parry windows and not with enemies that have combos that does not have any parry windows.

[@Xlice]

the goat showcasing goated mechanics gonna try this out

[@hadi2592]

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[@rexevan6714]

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[@k.j.7863]

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[@gnuhgnauqneyugn]

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[@seung_ism]

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[@gnuhgnauqneyugn]

I swear this channel is so criminally underrated.. Literally game changing informations presented in a very organized manner, helped me a lot with my skill issue

[@demikill_2137]

True and real

[@Nearo92]

Agree, she explains things very well with lots of examples, very helpful

[@haunt7121]

I think it’s her voice saw some dude in comments complaining about it.

[@tsukiri_masho]

Sweetily is also one of the first to discover the triple jump/ super jump (jump, plunge, grapp, echo combo) She deserves more :')

[@EpicTetsu]

​@@haunt7121 you gotta be kidding...to me she has a very soft and kind genuine voice.. Honestly I've looked around and alot of gaming channels aren't getting anywhere close to the views they normally would. Algorithm is either way crazy... or everyones attention span got fried on tiktok and shorts and now don't watch longform content as much.

[@kerontv6297]

Ngl i think you're probably the most knowledgeable wuwa player ever. The amount of testing for this discovery must be insane. Thanks for your hard work and this delayed counter will most definitely change everything

[@SweetilyVT]

Not at all I just play a lot, testing and learning more about the dodges was fun

[@kerontv6297]

@@SweetilyVT lol. As long as you're having fun. Thanks again for the tips ☺

[@YOUHUOUGGHHH]

honestly, good thing she left genshit/hoyoslops. Her potential was wasted on those trash

[@shinypeekatyou]

short people suffering swtSad

[@roy61_]

thanks for the tips small adjustments to how we play can really make a difference, i need to stop button mashing

[@andynow-uu1mr]

😂😂 same

[@VanRukh]

The Crownless facepalm at the end. Diabolical 😂

[@bonyeni]

It was such a perfect clip

[@whisperviz1346]

'life is really though for the shot one" 😂😂 this delayed counter will be useful against crownless

[@enzorocha2977]

omg that Crownless facepalm at the end

[@sagaleuix2989]

As the Holy Cornliness: Alice_Bites said in their Danjin i-frame Tech Guide "Now don't go spinning like a goofball every time you dodge you little cornflake. Make yourself look cooler by delaying the attack to time the parry." Cornflake out

[@thisiswrathspeaking2057]

ah, a fellow corn enjoyer, greetings

[@leech1806]

I see the children of the corn have gathered.

[@elfireii328]

That dodgeless hologram clear using Danjins heavy attack i-frames were CRAZY.

[@f2pkeqing]

Thanks for this guide Sweetily! I often run out of stamina when fighting against Crownless VI with Rover and Sanhua 😅 I'll be sure to try out this delayed counter tech next.

[@Synocra]

🎉 are we gonna get wuwa content from the keqing goat anytime soon? 😊

[@TheLastAirbender3468]

you're playing wuwa too ? I though u don't cuz I haven't see you upload anything lol

[@Tomo_Fomo]

Try to perfect dodge Sweetily’s videos: Impossible

[@phantr2530]

i took the hit in my brain 🧠

[@carneromichael]

That is the reason WHY!! I have a short video when I did a perfect dodge with verina but died at Mephis. You can hear the perfect dodge trigger but its not enough time !!! Great video

[@SweetilyVT]

Yeah it's unfortunate the different durations mean you will have to time your dodges differently on the shorter vs taller characters

[@Zeela47]

What about delayed parry?

[@shell6467]

@@Zeela47 delayed parry is just you missing the parry time lmao But if you mean parry right at the last moment before the parry interval end then that also doesn't do anything special.

[@sotruwu]

JUSTICE FOR OUR SHORT KINGS AND QUEENS

[@kyutoanfani]

This video helped me clear all the holograms 6, it's insane. Thank you Sweetily!

[@indomitable2566]

This is basically making use of the entire dodge animation window instead of being quick to cut it short to follow up with a counter which also has its own . It’s not sweatiest option but the offers some safety and dps. I saw a video detailing the lasting the whole animation of dodge, but I didn’t think this would be useful in fast boss chain attacks in combination with counter . Thanks sweetily.

[@tiffanylovelovelove]

clearly explained visually and logically. great job on the research and creation of this video! i'm excited to try this out.

[@shirasakinagumo1104]

Another valuable info!! Different characters-different i-Frames, delayed counters. Now it's up to skill to master this masterpiece info. ❤

[@LastNihlist]

The depth of this guide and examples of scenarios is what we need. 💯

[@KagamiSama]

No clickbait, useful information, well explained, great visuals. Thank you!

[@TukaMarz]

Wow, covering mechanics down to specific frame data, like fighting games. Love it!

[@Lyrracle]

Actual life changing advice for the harder fights in this game! Thanks again for this video! Will definitely be using this

[@yediya]

Thank you again Sweetily for the video! I learnt a lot and always love how your explaination are systematic and easy to follow

[@Niik150]

woah thanks for the video and tips with the techs

[@deusaugma]

Wuwa literally dissing the small ones unintentionally 😂

[@Isarabubu]

Gurl, I can't even dodge normally 💀

[@m.elhaj.98]

You are sooo underrated its crazy… keep it up and best of luck ❤

[@Ren-hy5su]

Those who are struggling against the mighty crusher use the delay counter mentioned in the video. Trust me, it's super useful. Thank you for this amazing guide ✨️

[@stevenjohn3858]

I always use the quick counter, and it's pretty helpful for damage output. This delayed counter tech is actually helpful for extra 1 second (ish) . Thank you so much for the information, now I'm ready to go beat this crownless

[@KazeMemaryu]

That's actually very valuable info! When I don't feel confident in a parry, I also don't try to parry the follow-up attacks. But with the i-frames on Dodge Counters, this actually becomes much less stressful!

[@sensei4229]

That visual representation really helped to understand it

[@tikigaming1422]

In my experience, Counter Attack invulnerability has about about 0.5 - 1 second invulnerability window which also varies per character i believe? so make sure to dodge right away when facing multiple hit attacks before the invulnerability window timer runs out. Great Video!

[@4thsin098]

Hell yeah I knew I wasn't crazy. I've been fighting crownless with this trick ever since I realized that you're still invincible during dodge counter.

[@lordaizen8004]

So the I-frame length disparity for height is actually a 4% difference, not a 40% difference. Just thought I’d make that clear, since it’s a pretty big gap between the two. Otherwise, great and solid content!! This is all good info in regards to the INCREDIBLY exceptional dodge mechanic(s) in this game. One of the best I have ever had the joy of using in-game anywhere 👍👍

[@lordaizen8004]

My main preference is perfect parries, like in Wo Long or Sekiro. Those just feel SO damn good to pull off consistently and makes you feel like you’re in a legit sword fight. lol. A VERY close second, in regards to game mechanics, for me is perfect dodges. This game is SO much damn fun. It literally feels like you are PLAYING a damn anime. KURO GAMES, make a BLEACH style gacha game just like this one PLEASE!!!

[@ima4248]

This is LITERALLY what I was wondering about, glad someone made a video on the matter and then YT recommended it to me This is definitely gonna help extremely active hitboxes like the Beringal swing, since as you said extending s with the attack doesn't send you on cooldown the same way dodging multiple times might end up doing Amazing video and properly explained technical terms, reminds me of Core-A Gaming's

[@pratikjohnsurin8536]

NGL Sweetily bro, the dodge counter perfect dodge tech looks beautiful.

[@nebulas420]

Wow this is really useful to know, thanks for taking ur time to make this informational video Sweetily

[@raonmiruww6860]

my Eyes literally went so wide when you demonstrate the tech on the bs combo of Mephis 😮 Thank you fpr this

[@novabolt03]

The delayed counter mechanic was something i found quite helpful. Thank you for your hard work

[@mordsven]

Need more videos like this, the level of secret tips and information in wuwa is insane

[@avi8183]

YOOOOOOOO THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!! I was fighting tempest Mephis before and was triggering the counter invincibility frames during its jump attack and was getting confused why I was not getting hit even though I didn't manage parry the boss. This answers my question. Thank you so much.

[@ldrag4963]

I didn't realize this until I've watched your video. This tech is really game changing and the video itself is well organized and easy to understood. Thanks.

[@SweetoDoggo]

I was just struggling with crownless and then i saw this vid its really a lifesaver thank you

[@tsukiri_masho]

Sweetily thankyou for this tech!! Best Encore main!

[@wingblade2106]

Finally, I can do Tempest Mephis without worrying about the clone. Thank you for the guide Sweetily!!!

[@o_o-037]

Thank you for teaching me that delayed counters have i-frames! You just earned a sub.

[@SirAdri95]

This... changes everythig, (Thanks for the tip, I've been struggling with jinshis huge ass animations so this may come in handy)

[@Msaber2012]

I've been doing this delayed counter by accident and i didn't understand why sometimes i would get dmg still and sometimes i wouldn't but i guess this explains it. Thank you!

[@aXsEpsilon769]

This is quite informative. amazing vid!

[@azathothalter]

A little tip, the 4th hit of Encore can parry so if you do a counter attack and notice the enemy is about to throw an attack you can parry just attack right after the counter attack since that is Encore's 3rd attack, i had been doing that against Mephis and is very consistent but i don't see anyone talking about it...

[@winterwinter5487]

Such goated tech info, thank you for sharing. This tech will be useful for years to come

[@jerrychao1849]

hii something else to add about the delayed counter atk i-frame is that u need to not input any movement keys after the dodge. lots of people think the delayed counter window is much smaller than it is and its because any movement keys interrupt the delay counter.

[@stuffffuts3480]

So to get better you just gotta slow down and stop moving Wisdom as old as time itself 🗿

[@watashielshaeddo5454]

So my character will attack by itself after the dodge?

[@chenser516]

AYOOOO THIS INFO CHANGES EVERYTHING IN MY GAMEPLAY TYSM!!!!

[@sageerick3188]

Thank you so much for this! It also looks so cool, stylish and comfy

[@umani9983]

This is such quality information. This channel is underrated.

[@HeshO-yi3hh]

You are one of the most insane wuwa players, you can't stop discovering new techs and tricks and on top of that you are a Encore main 😊

[@yys6102]

After watching this video, I immediately went ahead and attempted Heron6 with your mech on the rapid beak attacks and it worked consistently and I finally cleared it! Thank youuu

[@Obstergo]

Thank you so much for making this video, it really change the way i play the game

[@adamamentia2678]

i learned so much from this video i didnt know any of this stuff about dodging thank you so much.

[@oklahoma8666]

first you showed me the super jump... and now this!? ma'am you are shaping the meta

[@Saudademaru]

Nice guide. This will be good to know. Think I'll play around with it when I get the chance.

[@hldo00]

Great breakdown on on dodges and counters. Have been spamming those against hologram bosses since I had discovered those myself 😂

[@user-kun2147]

To quote a very handsome fellow, "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING". Like fr I hate that dodge cooldown when I keep spamming it especially against Crownless etc. So I'm glad that you found out about is

[@Pudding--]

saw the thumbnail and heard meliodas yelling in my head DELAYED COUNTER

[@Kryesh]

thankk youuu for all of your hard work and detailed information (down to the frame data..! with excellent diagrams..! ) super cool tech that I can't wait to use on some more holograms have definitely been having some questionable movements myself i keep getting hit this can definitelyyy help

[@HoshinoTakahashi]

I'm subscribing right away because how you explain things was so good and easy to understand 😁 Great video !👍🏻👍🏻

[@jaywalker32]

Thanks for the guide Sweetily! Tried it after stream and it's one of those things that 'click' when you're actually doing it. Nice cinematic Encore clear btw swtXD

[@adamlonewolf1563]

Thanks for sharing these useful mechanics with us, and also thanks for your hardwork Ariel !

[@h4zen879]

That inferno rider in the ending of the vid is going places.

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

I am surprised, this is genuinely a useful tech snd is presented well I subbed and will support the channel, WuWa needs more creators like you

[@ItsSeconds]

Learning more about the game from you than from the likes of rexlent keep up the good work, I involuntarly used the delayed counter sometimes with specific moves but never thought of it being an actual mechnic usable in more situations

[@ramengyoza]

good info about this! definitely will do this on holograms. that solo encore run on dif 6 crownless. chef's kiss

[@CoffeeAddictGuy]

Thanks for this. You were also the one who introduced me to the triple jump trick which was very useful! Thank you!

[@heraldnite]

Daym Never thought I'd get combat lessons from Encore

[@andrejw545]

I love your wuwa content. Also well researched/ tested and based. Love it!

[@TheWaifuConnoisseur]

Counters and some animations are op af in WuWa. This is especially true for Danjin. Her Counter/QTE spin attack has super long s, and her charge attacks can be used to attacks too.

[@kxzlive8763]

no wonder i keep getting hit with Encore and almost never with Mortefi when delaying my dodges in combos, goated content

[@remu002]

another cool thing. when using chixia and you have the 30 bullet extra damage shot ready, you can dodge, delay your attack just like explained in this video and then still do the extra damage from the skill

[@zipzap8338]

thanks for this trick. hope it helps me with my lack of skills on dodging.

[@Kobayashii45]

Thanks for this tech!!! I was able to survive and beat Crownless Hologram 6 with this technique

[@DeadlyShock13]

Aight u earned urself a sub for that delayed counter. Thx a lot for that info.

[@kahrugiadesu1501]

4:30 I found this out one fun time when I solo'd memphis with danjin on my first difficulty when I hit 40, it was a real game changer cuz danjin's counter attack goes on for quite a wee bit from the multi-hit

[@risenoni]

Wow... this is actually a change to everything. Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to start practicing this.

[@rift1067]

I know I'm a few months late, but I want to point out that a delayed counter can actually yield a higher DPS in certain situations compared to the second "sweaty" option of successive quick counters. Certain dodge counters (e.g. Yinlin, Yangyang) are also chain attacks in and of themselves. As such, if you know that an enemy's about to reach the end of their attack chain, going for a perfect dodge against the second to last hit - then following up with a delayed counter to i-frame the one right after - is going to be the better option. As Sweetily pointed out, it's an optional trick up your sleeve that's good to keep in mind and can be very useful if you know how to appropriately blend them into the flow of a fight. Also, considering the video was out before Changli, I'd also like to point out that her vertical displacement due to E can be exploited to dodge certain ground attacks. I actually don't know if they have i-frames but they most certainly displace her hitbox vertically. Same goes for her teleport during enhanced NA. Xiangli Yao can do something similar with his E's, but the windows are tighter, and again, I'm not sure if they are just hitbox displacements or if they also implement i-frames. I'm sure other characters have similar gimmicks. I'm yet to build Youhu but I bet she also has some crazy stuff going on for her. Her forte mechanic is all over the place as is.

[@XxTexasTimxX]

First, good vid. I discovered this a while back, and didn't think much of it, but I can see why it would not at all be obvious to a lot of players. Use your invuln moves people. Dodge, counter, ults, intro skills all have invuln. This is speculation/conjecture on my part. For the arrow rain you used in your invuln frame testing, the variance might be due to timing. I believe dodges are frame 1 invuln (meaning no start up frames that can be hit), and the arrow rain is likely not just a continuous hitbox, but rather a multi hit move with several consecutive hitboxes, each doing damage at set intervals. If its like other such moves in other games, then there are also likely small gaps between hits where one hit's box ends, then a gap of a few frames, then the next hit's box goes active. So depending on your initial dodge timing, invuln might be expiring during one of those gaps, leading to the appearance that there is variance in invuln frames on a given character's dodge. It's also unclear to me if the dodge slowdown affects projectile speeds, or just the enemy's actions, or if it's a global slowdown, so the slowdown could be playing a role in the variance you see in invuln frames, depending on what you are dodging. In other games, often when you dodge/parry/counter something, the properties of that mechanic are applied to the thing you using the mechanic against. Just some speculation from a fighting game player that wishes this game had a hitbox viewer with frame data info. I'm surprised there isn't a 3rd party tool out there to extract the frame data from the game files yet.

[@SweetilyVT]

I agree. I don't think actual dodge s should have variance, I gave an estimate for the frames because I also believed the arrow rain does not do "continuous dmg" in the sense that there should be a gap of a few frames, but it was what I thought came the closest. One interesting thing I did find from my testing was that dodges MIGHT not have frame 1 invuln - I have some captures where I can clearly see my character moving or starting to launch but I take an instance of dmg 3-4 frames in. It could just be a input variance though, since I'm not using a macro it's possible in those cases I pressed a direction key a few frames before I pressed dodge, so the directional movement made me take dmg.

[@XxTexasTimxX]

@@SweetilyVT If you have an input display program of some kind, you might run that while you record so you can see exactly what you input when stuff like that happens. I also have footage of some char ults starting up, and the char dying in the ult animation. Its unclear to me if it's a visual bug of getting ult animation, but the char already died (maybe ulting on the same frame as death), or if ults simply don't have frame 1 invuln.

[@tringlos-zv6sl]

I KNEW THE SHORTIES RAN SLOWER, THANKS FOR CONFIRMING!

[@jezzbla905]

worked like a charm when i saw this on stream and tried it myself :3 thanks to you crownless was a breeze 💜

[@SweetilyVT]

congrats on the clear!!

[@azureknight729]

Aww our little sweetily is showing her destructive prowess once more.

[@Nir-Fallen]

Thank you so much for the information, Sweetily. Look like I wouldn't need to just be spamming Shift anymore when fighting Crownless XD.

[@SephirothInDMC]

Video literally voiced by encore

[@eibee8010]

great footage! really appreciate the effort.

[@Rover_Waves]

It's more scary if u think about future characters when one of the main kit is to utilize counterattack. Ex : Alpha CW in PGR after dodge/perfect dodge u can use atk to use swordwaves to the enemies, if in the future wuwa decide to create alpha in wuwa with similar counteratk swordwaves mechanic in her kit the i-frame is more longer. For sure dev may nerf her in wuwa maybe with shortest i-frame or just a second after counteratk who count as i-frame. Excited for future character. Great video as always ❤

[@SweetilyVT]

Jiyan doesn't seem to have any s for his counter for some reaason, so maybe if they release a counterattack focused character in the future they will also take this into account. An Alpha/CW type of character in WW would be sick though.

[@StarChan12]

I hope they fix that sudden stutter and the camera enemy lock on specially doing holograms

[@exiletheblank]

I wonder how many techs are gonna be there in a year with how many people are fucking around and finding out. Another one to add to the collection.

[@pizsaf2058]

The short resonators having a more difficult life gives extra immersion for me.

[@Yotsuki10400]

Been doing the delayed counterattack since I previously discovered it while fighting overworld crownless. I love doing stylish counterattack-parries with it.

[@sorakey4005]

This really remind me how i use to tank boss in BnS with BM. Literally wait to maximize the of the 1st skill by waiting before trigger the 2nd one try dodging either 3 atk with 2 skills, or to trigger the continuously dodge skill that require a dodge triggered before u can use

[@ChaosRune]

Nice discovery, I will surely add that when needed in my rotation. Also, your voice really took me by surprise, very cute!

[@Cocoa_mintzz]

Changli can really abuse this because she is allowed to dodge and continue her combo from where she last left of

[@syariflpz97]

I like this explanation, easy to understand