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@mikehansen98983 жыл бұрын
All that shade thrown at Hobbywing, but the Castles are the one's blowing up.
@xibidit3 жыл бұрын
the castle "on/off switch" apparently have more than 100% power available to the motor, since there is "more top end speed" than with the hobby wing "on/off switch".
@KacKLaPPeN233 жыл бұрын
@@xibidit Nah, it's just that the over current protection in the HW units actually works and limits the power output in those scenarios while the Castle will happily keep on pushing past it's limits until it goes up in flames. Brushless ESC's also are a little more complex than an on/off switch...
@xibidit3 жыл бұрын
@@KacKLaPPeN23 not really man, it's mosfets switching power on and off, and if there is over current protection it would go into limp mode. Connect the wrong motor and wrong battery the esc blows, if the unit is faulty it's usually a mosfet that blows and starts a chain reaction. Take a 45A esc and a 60A esc with the same motor and battery, they will have the same top speed but the 45A esc might blow first. Look at RCexplained's channel if you want technical stuff...
@KacKLaPPeN233 жыл бұрын
@@xibidit I've personally had some higher kv motors (above what the ESC was rated for) reach a lower max. RPM than a lower kv one with HW ESCs. Over current protection is the only sensible cause of this phenomenon I can come up with. If there was an internal RPM limit we'd see the same max RPM but that wasn't the case in my tests.
@xibidit3 жыл бұрын
@@KacKLaPPeN23 higher KV motors have a lower resistance, probably in some kind of limp-mode since you had too low resistance through your windings. OCP usually cuts the power all together, but I can be wrong, there are some advanced on/off switches out there for sure :)
@anthonylim24283 жыл бұрын
A man of his words right here and very very respectable. If i was your customer, I would be forever your customer. Owning up to your mistakes and being honest goes a loooooong way. You've earned someone's trust forever. We need more people like you in this world.
@michaelregan4273 жыл бұрын
I don't think braking caused this. People run the kraton on 8s with big gears, big tires and the same power. The esc was defective IMO.
@MZBallistic3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. My Outcast 8S is pushing 70 mph @ 30lbs with a MMX 8S zero issues.
@AutoBodyEverything3 жыл бұрын
Awe don’t say that… I’ve seen these go up in flames… but I’m THIS CLOSE to buying a XL2 combo, …. They admitted 5% were defective but those defected ones go up in flames RIGHT AWAY! If you got as much as 5 minutes run time it “could” be something else….🙏
@Das_Lucifer3 жыл бұрын
@@AutoBodyEverything buy one. It's worth it!
@rcjunkie2603 жыл бұрын
@@AutoBodyEverything could be 5 seconds or 15 minutes. One never knows till "FLAMES ON" That's the great thing with castle creations, they push the limit!!! And the costumer pays the price!
@michaelregan4273 жыл бұрын
@@AutoBodyEverything I would personally still buy one of these controllers, in fact might be buying two for one of my twin catamarans and converting them to water cooling. I firmly believe there was no user error here, Raz knows his shit and even Castle knows that lol. The esc was defective.
@madmatt27693 жыл бұрын
Super interesting Raz! That beast can only have the best gear and as you pointed out a separate disc braking unit is a must. Can’t wait to see the next instalment!👍🏻
@ruffriki32643 жыл бұрын
It’s a pleasure to watch and learn. Thank you!
@mikeupton54062 жыл бұрын
Picked up my first above 1/10th tonight. A Limitless. Your a good influence ;). Been enjoying R/C since late 1980s. Does not make me an expert. But I know there will be trials and setbacks along the way. Let the butt kicking commence LOL!
@edwinwelch12723 жыл бұрын
kevin talbot showed that the XLX 2 started on fire twice in his videos.
@Basherqueen3 жыл бұрын
Kevin had way too high kv motors.
@xibidit3 жыл бұрын
@@Basherqueen why does the motor even exist if the best esc cant run it? it died without load man...
@Basherqueen3 жыл бұрын
@@xibidit The XLX2 are known for some units being faulty.
@xibidit3 жыл бұрын
@@Basherqueen I know, but read the above comment.
@oscarjones47882 жыл бұрын
@@xibidit different escs can run it it's only a 6s motor he was also running it on 8s
@based_will3 жыл бұрын
My Outcast 8s EXB with the exact same system in it, fully loaded weighs 30lbs. I'm definitely not easy on the brakes, and the truck is geared high enough that it's hit 65mph. I think the issue here is a combination of belt resistance and a defective ESC.
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations3 жыл бұрын
Aint there a temperature cut off on that xlx2? Even with a monster car like that it should have cut off before it self-destruct, even from braking.
@arnerrvik75863 жыл бұрын
I'm actually a little scared of these Castle "smoke systems" now:-) Anyway, thanks a bunch!
@Basherqueen3 жыл бұрын
Castle Cremations... 😘 to DK(?)
@bensettos87053 жыл бұрын
Batch # please
@davidchennellsjr.67993 жыл бұрын
I watch all your videos. I like to learn from people that know what they're doing. Plus great content does not hurt.
@Joepat_043 жыл бұрын
That thing looks amazing! I need one of those.
@richduperbash29663 жыл бұрын
Ohhh damn 👀. Always sorry to see smoke. Props to you for standing behind your builds, regardless of what actually went wrong. That Big Girl must be smooth as silk belt driven and sensored. 🍻
@alexandermcalpine3 жыл бұрын
I hope Castle gets in touch with you. Thanks for posting!
@edgargomez22073 жыл бұрын
Honesty goes a long way! Nice Video Raz 🤘
@patbai63313 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for someone to do this! Awesome mate thankyou love your work , castle are the new novak
@Lee.gRC273 жыл бұрын
100% respect to you for fixing it for free and for sharing the info
@rcchallenge86263 жыл бұрын
Really want to see a pt2 to this and thank you for another great video
@jsvecten3 жыл бұрын
Such a clean build like all your builds!
@rceranreuven82613 жыл бұрын
Very nice car my friend 👍
@DoRC3 жыл бұрын
If you pretin the wire and the pre-fill the cavity in the connector with solder before you saw them together you spend a lot of less time at once putting heat into the connector making it much less likely to deform or melt it. I don't know if that's normally a problem with the QS8 connector but an xt90 would definitely start melting if heat was held on it that long at once.
@jasonsrcstuff92783 жыл бұрын
That car is huge man. Very cool!!
@lifeofdave12373 жыл бұрын
A lovely build that , shame about the ESC woofing up in smoke, but great seeing you take it on the Chin and replace the faulty unit 👌
@jonlewis7583 жыл бұрын
Dope build bro I’d love to see that car with an mgm 12s controller. The 800amp one would be dope. Awsome video
@kahmed73283 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@lafayettehargrove79592 жыл бұрын
Raz your builds make me feel terrible about mine lmao! Your the best, thanks
@ErocsRc3 жыл бұрын
Kevin! Sick build and vid bro!💯 Gotta add this to the collection
@johnwayne6663 жыл бұрын
You talk like a collage history teacher....✌🏼😁
@samcourtrc67673 жыл бұрын
Awesome video raz
@RDEnduro3 жыл бұрын
That a really sweet car wow. Thanks for sending it yeeeyee. Interesting first chassis in a while that has the motor mounted horizontaly. Holy shit it smoked the tires in a highspeed drift.oh no that was electric smoke?? Nooo
@007nubber3 жыл бұрын
Love your vlog watch it all the time a new video comes out
@RazShifrin3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!🙏🏻
@HAPPYJACKRC3 жыл бұрын
Raz that’s a awesome build buddy. Can’t wait too see the full run. 👊🏽💯
@nofreerides70333 жыл бұрын
That car was very agile for its size … hope to see it going again even better than first time .. got faith in you 👍👍👍
@CmwSpeedrunUk3 жыл бұрын
💪🏽🇬🇧💪🏽 will be ordering one of these 100%
@Basherqueen3 жыл бұрын
Hi Raz 🖐️🥰. Nice Clean build from you as always 💪 If my calculations are not totally off, then there was nothing wrong with your setup and gearing if top end is of about 50mph. 💪 Also I am quite 100% positive that the brake rate/gearing/weight of the car should not have exceed any of the known limitations of the XLX2. Not even close. The binding drivetrain isn't helping but what is it compared to any off road rolling resident? Just bad luck and bad ESC? Don't blame me but I personally wouldn't change anything except freeing up the drivetrain and give it another go. 😘😘😘
@socialzombie943 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man, it's nice seeing what is possible with this hobby when you lay down serious pennies. Also what a community, must be awesome having a load of likeminded guys to enjoy the hobby with :)
@RazShifrin3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yes:)
@brandonbentley5453 Жыл бұрын
I've found if you get into a local club you don't need to lay down serious pennies. Make due with what you have too. I dominated my local track until it shut down a couple years ago. Now I converted my buggy int GT8 Class and im ripping into the top three already. I run a converted O'Donnell Z01B SG
@cyclonerc16252 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us Raz 💯👍💯🍻
@benhamer91253 жыл бұрын
i considered an xlx2 for one build and passed it up as i didnt want to see £2k+ rig go up in flames then thought they may have fixed the problem so started to consider it again for another build this puts me off.
@codyhart40623 жыл бұрын
Now I want some 1:5 scale GRP tires!
@guillermopayne99503 жыл бұрын
That is one crazy bad ass car!!
@KiloWattRC3 жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with brakes. The FG is a baby compared to MCD. The esc was defective, luckily no one got hurt. There is a guy here in Maryland that hit 149mph with the FG running XLX2 and TP motor. Good content as always man
@madmatt27693 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but a gem of a car just deserves disc brakes! ESC is probably faulty though…
@HighVoltageRC30803 жыл бұрын
@@madmatt2769 I have two brushless FG's and both of them use motor braking. I'm running 8s on one and 12s on the other. xlx and an MGM esc powering the cars and neither one have caught on fire yet. Xlx2 was just faulty... thats all there is to it. We put the same 1100kv/xlx2 combo in another FG and its geared up for about 80mph, no issues in that car either.
@RazShifrin3 жыл бұрын
@@HighVoltageRC3080 hey, i would love to see the xlx2/1100 in action so i can learn more, is there a video of it? Thanks!
@HighVoltageRC30803 жыл бұрын
@@RazShifrin next time I meet up with my buddy I can get some video for you of his car. He's running 23/40 gearing with the 1100kv/xlx2 combo.
@RazShifrin3 жыл бұрын
@@HighVoltageRC3080 thanks!! Much appreciated, what is the battery configuration over there?
@audiquattrojamie3 жыл бұрын
That car is incredible😱😱😱😱😱 Was it literally smoking the tyres all the time 👌🏻 Love the video, and explanation Raz 👍
@RazShifrin3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!
@ianbudgetrc25743 жыл бұрын
OMG that's freaking quick for it's weight! And are those tire smokes? Sick!
@charleswatson39513 жыл бұрын
Don't be hard on yourself, man! I've seen numerous videos of this very ESC catching fire....Castle cremations strikes again....
@ashleyfisher25083 жыл бұрын
thanks for your honesty mate and like the rest of us you live and you learn
@teslacybertruck7503 жыл бұрын
0:45 I've seen that man on other videos, I believe one of his RCs hit 180mph. I love that man's attitude.
@BigKahuna967403 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, I love the FG stuff they are tough as nails but they make em outta Depleted Uranium🤣
@toddgrady71192 жыл бұрын
Nice Video and it will help as I just starting out and knowing is everything, Thanks man!
@mariopiodiocena53322 жыл бұрын
I going in interested every video that you made . and im learning alot . keepit up 👍🏻
@GregSupe3 жыл бұрын
Oh man that could have been so much worse. Good thing you guys caught it quickly. Glad you did this vid Raz, it's a learning experience for us all. 🙏🏾
@TheTonester23123 жыл бұрын
Dang! I love the smoke when you guned it! Definitely ran a lot of power through that sucker.
@robcanthandlestupidy92492 жыл бұрын
I'm a new fan to to your Channel and you did such nice clean work with this car
@EXPIOWA3 жыл бұрын
First time seeing your channel. You seem like a good dude. 👍
@jukiranks3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to 5th scale bro, love the content
@restomoduk82533 жыл бұрын
Awesome build ,you need to go by the name 'the dentist 'as your clinical clean shop and elite level techniques ,knowledge and products
@gary61903 жыл бұрын
Hello Raz, Great video! I am running a Kraken KV5TT on 15S with a MGM setup. With MaxAmp batteries and no brakes either. I know this is not a cheep setup but it’s never net me down and although I try to not bash too hard I can’t help but to keep the throttle wide-open as long as the tires will take it 😊. Look forward to your next video.
@Pipeguy-RCcrazy6 ай бұрын
That was just crazy,an amazing car and build
@thegreatnexus42072 жыл бұрын
The fact he has *Recruiting Agency* on the roof is absolutely hilarious
@samsmithmx11yamaha3 жыл бұрын
From my personal experience with motor drivers and controllers I believe something called back emf killed your esc basically when braking the esc cannot handle the high voltage and current flowing in the opposite direction from the motor back to the esc. obviously when braking the motor is working like a generator and due to the weight and inertia of this car it was to much for the esc to handle which by the looks of things has fried the diode in one of the mosfets and caused a shoot through on one of the half bridges giving you a dead short and obviously some flames, as a solution potentially adding a capacitor bank in parallel with the esc after the battery might prevent this from happening again you need a buffer between the batteries and esc especially when the batteries are fully charged make sure you use some pretty high voltage capacitors to handle the high voltage spikes
@kollinborn9303 жыл бұрын
I had this exact same thing happen to my Kraton 1/5 EXB with that same setup, castle warrantied the esc and I’ve had no issues since. I believe it was one out of the “old batch” and no fault of yours
@darkbloodgt6577 Жыл бұрын
Dude that car is awesome
@bingode16469 ай бұрын
🤣😂🤣 iv NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN LOL!! EXPERIMENTING WITH CUSTOMERS PRODUCTS LOL🤣😂😭
@fullthrottlerc47273 жыл бұрын
Aww man! That was a beautiful build! I want to try the castle systems, but I’ve been skeptical. Bcuz I seen them burn up. Is that normal?
@gregory91573 жыл бұрын
Mamba is a fire starter 😨
@jeremyflemingii9292 жыл бұрын
👍😲📢 I love the car you set up!!! It looks awsome!!! You really did a great job setting that car up. I would buy one from you!!! Have fun, stay safe, and did I say have fun? 😁 I subscribed and thumbs upt you, so I can't wait to see some more nice cars like this one!!! Ok bye for now... Jeremy in Virginia, VA (east coast)
@22Phanatic3 жыл бұрын
Very cool car Razz! Too bad about the flame up , part of it I guess ! I just fried another 1717 🤣 going back to castle
@brentrobinson32743 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I never took into account the braking on my baja 5b guess I'm gonna get that on there before running it also can you turn the braking feature off on the xlx2???
@Anton-gz1go3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Otiesh Жыл бұрын
Raz honestly that was a nice happy time when the customer was receiving his car, but so sad that all did not go well as the car caught fire during testing and it really beats my understanding how a drive train design can cause a car to burn the ESC.
@ScubaSam2423 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this beast pushed to its limits ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️and with mechanical breaks
@EJ-743 жыл бұрын
That was crazy I couldn't believe it went up in smoke Your gambling theory was pretty interesting 😁 What a awesome RC 🔥👍✌️
@casjr992 жыл бұрын
Hey Razz are going to be having more of your perfect pass launch control?
@OldeSchoolRcUk Жыл бұрын
Love the content. And info. Thankyou 😊
@jaymitchrc3 жыл бұрын
Also something else to keep in mind, if you're running sensored, if you have to reverse direction of motor it hast to be done within castle link and not by switching motor wires. This was the first thing I actually thought about when I watched this. Also you could consider just not running it sensored at all.
@DoRC3 жыл бұрын
The car wouldn't even move if you tried to reverse it by switching motor wires.
@jaymitchrc3 жыл бұрын
@@DoRC if you run it using the Sensored wires and reverse wires...you confuse the esc and would blow the esc. You have to leave wires plugged up aa by cc and would need to reverse setting in esc if motor wasn't going in the correct direction.
@DoRC3 жыл бұрын
@@jaymitchrc right that's what I was saying. If you don't have the wires in the right order on a sensored setup the motor isn't even going to spin.
@JKGarageBMW3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this "tire smoke" wasn't actually tire smoke
@DoRC3 жыл бұрын
The manual says controller and motor are designed for two 2s batteries in series only. That makes it sound like they're talking about a specific motor and controller not necessarily what you put in there. Looking on their website it appears as though this usually comes with a fairly small motor and ESC. It's a decent sized car to be sure but I have a hard time believing that it is too much weight for an XLX2 to handle. Surely it doesn't weigh more than a fully loaded outcast 8s and they run in those all the time. I think there's something else going on. I highly doubt the ESC was being overloaded. I would get with Castle on this and try and get a replacement. These XLX2 ESCs are kind of known for spontaneously combusting.
@Motoinc2 жыл бұрын
The castle ESC have a known burn issue
@nobody-ly9ef2 жыл бұрын
Cool video.... I'm not into rc but really interesting nonetheless
@xibidit3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean with the hobbywing esc giving less top speed? it's the batteries that decide how fast you will go, the motor pulls power, the esc does not push power. if settings are maxed out there is 100% of the batteries power going to the motor, there cant be 120% of the power going to the motor just because you have your favorite on off switch.
@AccrlMoto3 жыл бұрын
Can you run different sizes pinions on it? Or is it fixed like the first line of Arrma granites?
@RazShifrin3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@poohtoo333 жыл бұрын
It’s either a bad ESC or wire connection between the ESC and the batteries. If anything between the two aren’t super tight beforehand and come loss during bashing sparks or fire can start at that connection point.
@xXB.FunkXx Жыл бұрын
Raz do you have a financial reason not to blame the xlx2 for these fires or do you really think that the chance you take puting one in is worth it because they are that much better than say a max 4? No disrespect just a honest question.
@BasedF-15Pilot Жыл бұрын
Who makes the chassis? I must have missed it amongst the crazy music.
@rotauq3 жыл бұрын
Must have been bad luck on the ESC. I recently converted my FG marder to 4WD and swapped the MAX5 for a XLX2. Running 8S with a SSS 5694-1000KV, so basically the same setup. It's geared a little lower at 16/46 and 20*/48, but slightly larger wheels. Ran 8 packs so far, mostly parkinglot drifting and never seen more than 120A peaks in the logs. It's heavy but when you're not hitting 100+mph it's shouldn't be pulling high enough amps to destroy it during braking.
@lexsteel123 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you send the ESC back to Castle, they can perhaps get into the data logs with their equipment? And give you more details on exactly what happened?
@joshchatwin85693 жыл бұрын
Omg I can’t believe it caught fire wow 🥺🥺
@robertstewart11843 жыл бұрын
i love fg your work is awesome
@AphexTwinII2 жыл бұрын
Castle Creations burning down the hobby since 1997
@sheliabryant19112 жыл бұрын
God bless sir.ty for all the help. Wonderdul build .id dream of a felony build from you.much love 2u raz
@philliplyn26923 жыл бұрын
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work would love to get my hands on one of these beast 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@jmiles98363 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!
@technik44343 жыл бұрын
Very nice car
@Techie_ASMR Жыл бұрын
As much as i love Raz and his videos.. i gotta agree and say this HW max5 would have been a great choice for this one. as far as I know.. this is not a competition car. it s for a customer. so reliability matters. and we rarely see a HW ESC blows up. customer may not know all the technical details like Raz knows. customer may not need to all the nerdy details and data logging.. but reliability and being able to push anyway you want without having a fear of catching on fire matters.. so HW would have been a great choice. or as we see. XLX2 that is tamed to 70% power would be ok too.
@Syx6963 жыл бұрын
Great build Raz!! Very informative and resourceful. I have yet to add a 1/5 rig to my collection. I'm not sure which I want to invest in as far as either 1/5 gas or electric. Currently leaning towards gas but what would you suggest?
@dopeyiniraq3 жыл бұрын
I have the same care but I bought the gas version and converted it to electric full castle setup I did have the lehner 3080 n mgm 400a pro but was having some issue's
@skycorrigan65113 жыл бұрын
Is that an aftermarket motor mount? Looks awesome
@zackjay71 Жыл бұрын
Always keep a fire extinguisher handy
@Aladinscave Жыл бұрын
Stick a max4 combo in it and do the same ? ( if you are willing to risk the money) it will be interesting to see if it will hold up or not
@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide3 жыл бұрын
Great video, sucks that it flamed out but it will get fixed