410 Winchester XX Diamond Grade Turkey 3" 3/4oz Patterning, Hull Breakdown, Pattern Battle

Hey folks,
Today we will take a look at the Winchester Diamond Grade 410 Turkey ammo. We will break it down, pattern it against another 410 load and see how they stack up. I'll be using the Carlson Turkey TSS choke. You'll find a link to it below.
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[@buckchaser312]

I really appreciate you taking the time to be very thorough in your video and sharing your knowledge with us.

[@deanpatterson1842]

Good show , you did a good ammount of work on that one , appreciate it.

[@Steelhorse814]

First Off ! Thank You for Your Service to a Greatful Nation ! Love your Videos ! And Thanks for Putting the Time in to do these videos and explaining about the loads and patterns . They are Very Informational ! Keep the Great Video's Coming ! Stay Safe & Healthy ! God Bless ! Wade E. Booher

[@bullet225ho]

Thank you. It was a privilege to serve. I don't think folks realize the time it takes to put all this very amateur type video together. I couldn't imagine the time to do high end production stuff. Thanks for watching.

[@mallardcutter7209]

Great job with the video !!! Thank you for all the work you put in on these patterns. Very eye opening about the #6 shot

[@curtiseggemeyer5681]

Nice job on the testing. Glad to see Bucksnort survived Bless this Mess the crazy tv show lol. I liked the comparison but with everything being said I would say overall with the little 410 your #6 Buffered load definitely would be a 1st choice for me. I have some Winchester rounds coming to play with on paper just like those you tested. 1 or 2 #6 pellets in the right place and the pary is over. Keep up the great videos , so anxious to do some patterning when weather permits and family time allows.

[@msb2948]

Love your channel on these sub gauges and from a fellow veteran, thank you for your service.

[@bullet225ho]

Thanks for watching and it was a privilege to serve. Thank you for your service also.

[@saltcreekammo]

I love your channel man... Ammo nerds unite! 🤓 I believe that Carlson's is a .385 constriction.

[@bullet225ho]

Thanks brother.

[@dennisbrock5376]

Yes sir. 410 3inch is great. I wonder sometimes if we are oversizing our shot sizes for turkey. The smaller pellets go through the feathers and the bigger ones bounce off. I also left a comment on one of your latest videos, which was 3 months ago, i bought 10 boxes of Aguila 28ga 2 3/4" 1oz and i took 5 apart and they all had exactly 1 oz or 1 pellet over 1 oz. The green Magnum wad . Pleasantly surprised.

[@NorthRiverGuide]

I see that as well where folks are going bigger than necessary even handicapping themselves by doing so. For example patterning 25yards with #4 lead shot in 12ga and getting a reasonable pattern but that's about it. Where they could benefit from dropping to #6 to get more pattern density, where #6 still kills reliably to just over 40yds

[@krm944]

Wow! Thank you!! This was an amazing video. I bought some of these when 410 was out of stock everywhere. It’s just now, slowly coming back in stock. It was saddening to see that the “premium” shell from Winchester is missing 10% of its payload. The shot looked horrible. I would have expected a buffer to help patterning. Any chance it was covered in resin like the long beard XR? Your buffered 6s look very promising. Again, this was a great side by side test of factory/handload and the bonus premium handload.

[@bullet225ho]

Thanks for watching. It is sad when you bust one of these "premium" shells open and find ..............well... ugly stuff. The crazy part is the stupid ugly stuff still works great. I swear they are charging us for propellent development...wad development...etc. Cause the shot is not all "shiny and new" as they make it out to be.

[@jamieseward1682]

Just curious to see what your experience is with buffering shot in the 410. Have you noticed that it makes all loads pattern tighter? Always appreciate the videos and information and look forward to the next one

[@bullet225ho]

from what I'm seeing yes.. little tighter, little more even.

[@frankspataro9714]

Great video i just seen a tristar cobra on sale at wally world for a 118 bucks if its still there im gonna fetch it up today lol

[@bullet225ho]

I'd probably grab it myself.

[@frankspataro9714]

I'm there right now and buying both of em lol more I thought about it I had to lol then they had two so there now both coming home with me lol

[@Steelhorse814]

What for patterning paper are you using to see the Bucksnort turkey target through it ? Thanks !

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[@jaybird1970]

I sent you 2 emails but I'm not sure you got em.asking bout some 20ga stuff and questions bout tss vs HW 13 and 15.let me know if you got em.thanks man.go dawgs

[@bullet225ho]

Sorry about that. Just got them and replied.

[@krm944]

In the 410 choke world, the Carlsons TSS Turkey is a good choke- but not a premium choke. With more effort (and $$) a different choke could probably do a bit better, but you have a very good representation of that load/choke combo.

[@bullet225ho]

What would be some choke alternatives? They are pricey...but some do come up on ebay for good prices? I wouldn't mind doing some choke testing with home loaded and factory stuff.

[@krm944]

@@bullet225ho The 410 and chokes can be very finicky. I’d try any of the factory Turkey chokes that people automatically bypass for aftermarket chokes. (Rossi/Mossberg SA 410) I purchased a Jebs XFull and it’s pretty good with TSS 9s. Indian Creek, Jebs, Patternmaster are 3 Premium chokes that TSS shooters like.

[@bullet225ho]

Thanks for the info. I see some for other guns but not sure if the threads will match up. I'll keep my eyes out.@@krm944

[@krm944]

@@bullet225ho eBay is a great place to score quality used chokes. I got my Jebs for $55 shipped- if I bought it new it would have been $100 + tax. Now I can compare that Jebs at 30 yards to your results with those Win 7.5s

[@francescozizzi282]

What powder is it?

[@bullet225ho]

I have no Idea. It's a Winchester proprietary blend of some sort.

[@frankspataro9714]

Shit there been plenty killed with 410 7.5 6s and 4s I have killed tons of turkey in the fall with 12 guage low brass 1 oz of 7.5s it would flatten em at 25 and 30 yards in the fall woods

[@bullet225ho]

I'm sure there have been. I know there are folks that swear by 7.5 in 12ga for turkey.

[@eduffy4937]

​@@bullet225hoI ran trap loads for 20 years now. If it's within 40yards it never escapes. Nice 20" pattern that's very densely populated with pellets. Not choked too tightn and not too open.