44 | Closing Argument (Dai Gyakuten Saiban Soundtrack)

[@alwt_krlitos]

I like that in the fourth case the banker guy returns as a juror and he's just like f*ck you you acussed me I f*cking hate you

[@realperson9951]

honestly hes kinda based based on what? based on personal grudges i love him

[@IBigPrivateDickChinchillaI]

Bruce Fairplay was only playing...fair

[@pyromaniacforhire]

That shit had us cracking up!😂😂😂

[@Goomba3]

One of my favorite side characters in that game tbh just straight up will get a man guilty of murder just because a lawyer hurt his feelings lol

[@Png_gaming]

Only on the start of the trial where he’s the jury foreman. Got to say, he’s my favourite character. “SSSSTRROTH!!”-Bruce Fairplay.

[@hihey229]

This track is quite interesting. There's a question and answer theme at the start, which signifies the jurors presenting their viewpoint and us questioning it. The beginning melody plays six times, one for each juror. The lower and higher strings could be representing male and female voices. After hearing from them all, we find the opening, the contrasting high and low voice repeating the same theme could be the two contradictory statements next to each other in the bridge, and finally we attack with the second melody.

[@crisdebug8675]

Man, we need more of you song analysts guys in OST comments. So little details we lose every time.

[@misterpayah7723]

Fantastic interpretation! Makes me appreciate this great track exponentially more. I actually wouldn't be surprised if this was exactly the composer's intent.

[@Baiano29]

Amazing analysis

[@mitchellm2208]

Way to read this track well. I love stuff like this and you made me appreciate this track way more as well :)

[@Engardian]

That’s why it plays six times! I found it curious, but didn’t think about it! Nice analysis! :)

[@mehless]

I came to London to do some sightseeing. I am going to the Crystal Tower.

[@Konizo_]

How did that guy even become a juror?

[@tsubasawokudasai3473]

@@Konizo_ That's what I'd like to know. XD As soon as bro and I saw him in the juror's seat we were both like "Wait...I don't think he should be up there for quite a few reasons..."

[@Konizo_]

@@tsubasawokudasai3473 exactly!

[@qui-gonjinn8048]

To blow it up? Nice try, you can't trick me, you're obviously a Russian assassin with 16 kills on his tail.

[@SamTheMarioMan]

@@tsubasawokudasai3473 Lol to be honest, *most* of the jurors in the 2 games shouldn't be up there, either because they're unfit to be jurors at all, or because they have a connection (or bias) to the case or to one of the witnesses

[@simpletactician1047]

"He stabbed the victim right next to him, like this!" "He must've stabbed the poor man on the floor in this way!" "...aha! This is just the opening I needed!"

[@somacruz10]

Yeah, it was easy game mechanic, but still I liked them more fun than usual cross-examinations

[@simpletactician1047]

A fun change of pace. It also got you to interact with characters outside of the witness, prosecutor and possibly the defendant in other games.

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

@@simpletactician1047 This game is more accurate to real courts in the sense that you never question a defendant. Which Wright shouldn't even be doing but there you go.

[@dracoastra3039]

@@DreamerFromTheDepths I mean then again, the Phoenix Wright games do poor job at representing a real court case…. Like a certain prosecutor who claims the autopsy is outdated

[@amirgarcia547]

@@dracoastra3039 This game let suspected criminals who shot a detective and fled the crime scene testify, and AA5 has a convict as a prosecutor. Sp it’s definitely far from representative of the actual court system lol.

[@alexanderlobanov3880]

Mia Fey: you should look at this case by different angle. Juror number 3: you should look at this case stereoscopically.

[@boltonhero1]

If you look at it stereoscopically...

[@AntSex]

*_N O_*

[@DragovianFeline]

omfg I hated that juror with my soul

[@yoshimario40]

(◑‿◐)

[@TheUltimateRare]

that trial was a lot of fun.

[@flipnotehatena830]

@@DragovianFeline WHY WOULD U

[@priestofsyrinx6681]

I love the Jurors + the closing argument mechanic in this game. It just breaths new life into the series.

[@Chaos-vm7cy]

Fun fact, most of these new additions in The Great Ace Attorney were inspired by Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright on the 3ds (like cross-examining multiple witnesses, the magnifying glass during examination and pitting two statements against each other)

[@catalyst539]

@Pandarobot42 Some of them do- Juror Number 1 and 4 from A-4 are Bruce Fairplay and Joan Garrideb Juror Number 1 and 4 from R-2 are Bruce Fairplay and Altamont Juror Number 6 from A-5 is Vilen Borschevik

[@legalwaterdrinker3286]

​@ourlittleratrescueoklahoma7077That will miss the point of the jurors, they're supposed to be random civilians picked off the streets

[@mukash1838]

Yeah, I like it more than some weirdass super powers from other games. Miles' power is ok, cuz it's Logic lol

[@jamierooney455]

this theme has a very frantic feel to it, which makes sense, since you’re desperately trying to convince the jurors to reconsider their guilty verdict

[@atlasreborn7221]

"The Japanese admitted himself didn't he?" "A lady in a green coat just 'fell over'? Who else but the victim could that be?" "There's no reason he would take a very long route home from the bookshop!" "So basically, that guy just stabbed her in the back. Ahhh, so scary!" "Look, I don't even care. Just get this over with! I'm ready for the verdict!" "Tattered Tales Book Emporium is a great shop. The Ragged Reader? Not so much."

[@realperson9951]

*MATTA!*

[@callinater6133]

@@realperson9951 sir, this is an British courtroom. Please speak english.

[@somethingtheoneandonly]

​@@callinater6133HOLD IT!

[@extrey2950]

Don't you mean: "Yes YORE books very good place. Bourbon books no, not worth visiting."?

[@SabertoothWolfy273]

​@@extrey2950this was made before the official english translation. I beleive those are the names used in the original 3DS version translated into english

[@weisstofall2615]

Yet another cool concept! Not my favorite, but it's fun enough, and it's difficulty escalates well enough. Also, Ryuu gets so smug walking from side to side, building up the "You're both saying the exact opposite thing!" All the while this awesome theme sounds. I like this parts best just cause this plays in them, and it's a really fun theme!

[@pitioti]

To be frank, I really don't like the "Multiple-Witness" Mechanic, it's quantity over quality. But the Closing-argument, despite looking like it, is really great X3

[@weisstofall2615]

@@pitioti Too bad you don't like it. I think it's funny when they react to each other, but it's true the witnesses are less memorable that way

[@dracoastra3039]

@@pitioti if you didn’t like it, then you wouldn’t like Layton vs Wright. That’s one of its major concepts

[@realperson9951]

@@pitioti multiple witnesses really adds a lot here tbh, there are reasons for them to appear instead of trying to stick more things into it and progress through the cases

[@juliogomesdesouza9035]

@@weisstofall2615 I disagree that it makes them "less memorable" that way. One the most memorable witnesses of the series all take the stand together on 2-3. Having Drebber, Sithe and Tusspells all together on the same place was amazing.

[@renegadeguardian]

For the longest time my favorite Ace Attorney soundtrack was the Investigations games. But, dear God, this one is dangerously close to overtaking them. Such. Awesome. Music.

[@funnimonkibdog]

I’ve never really taken the time to fully enjoy this theme like I have with the cross examination themes, tbh, to me this does sound very serious and it feels a little spooky. It really does fit with how if you fail to change the jurors minds, the trial could be over at the drop of a hat.

[@kaatoriinesu4007]

lol this was really easy in the start . . .but it gets really hard to find some contradiction on their basis when the story progresses

[@IsmodesProduction]

The second closing argument of the memoirs of the clouded kokoro

[@somacruz10]

I like this music and gameplay with jury.

[@TheUltimateRare]

we all did :)

[@vtmorphine]

This game has the best music in the ace attorney series

[@Velepexon]

I will go through the songs in this playlist and list down the instruments I hear if I can UPDATED (31/12/2023 - Ending the year with one more run-through of this playlist!) Woodwinds: - Oboes Brass: - Still confused on 0:52. Could be a French Horn, Trombone, Euphonium, who knows. Someone suggested a MUTED Trombone? Interesting suggestion. - I do hear something like Trombones for the rest at 1:01, but it could be the violas or accordion throwing me off. Keyboards: - Something sounds like a Piano 0:42 - Harpsichord Percussion: - Snare Drum - Sticks? (or Side Taps on a Snare Drum) - Bass Drum? - Cymbals - Castanets Strings: - Violins - Violas - Cellos - Double Basses // Contrabasses Other: - Accordion

[@papanasrom]

Velepexon there is a possibility it’s a saxophone

[@Velepexon]

@@papanasrom It doesn't even sound close to a saxophone

[@papanasrom]

Velepexon trumpet?

[@Velepexon]

@@papanasrom Trumpet is too high. Some of my friends say it's either synth brass or a French horn.

[@papanasrom]

@@Velepexon i think your friends are right

[@dragnixstar]

This theme SLAPS

[@toprak3479]

Might be my favourite from this game

[@BasicallyDuncan]

This is my favorite cross examination theme (yeah it’s for the jury but shush) ever made, I don’t know what it is about it but it’s a literal bop

[@chosospigtails]

This is my absolute favorite song from both the DGS games, I can't get enough of it

[@samuellamoureux977]

"OBJECTION! Theses two statements contradicts eachother!"

[@ShycoWar]

As much as I liked the Closing Argument/Summarion Examination mechanic, I do think it's a bit of a shame that there's only one trial in the entire duology that tried to do something even remotely interesting in regards to the balance of juror opinion. As in, it didn't just settle for everyone unanimously deciding to vote Guilty all at once every single time. And it also happens to be the same trial that very mechanic is introduced in.

[@robotsafarii]

Which trial did something interesting with it? I forgot, it's been awhile since I've beaten DGS1&2 haha...

[@ShycoWar]

@@robotsafarii As I said, it's the very first British trial: the omnibus case. In which, rather than all six screaming Guilty all at once, it instead goes two, then another two, then one more, and finally, Juror 6/Granny seals the deal.

[@crystallizedsyrup7594]

@@ShycoWar I think the reason they decided to only do it once is because it'll just prolong the story unnecessarily and annoy some player.

[@danielsher5439]

@@crystallizedsyrup7594 Yes, it's also to show the divided opinions on McGuilded, since he's a public figure. Every other time, you've defended an Immigrant, a pickpocket, and a scientist in a government system where fraud is commonplace. So it makes more sense for the jury to lean overwhelmingly to either side. They're not there to actually influence the ending of a trial, since circumstances are often so heavily stacked against you that it takes pretty much a confession/definitive evidence to win.

[@robotsafarii]

@@ShycoWar I see what you mean by "interesting" as I do think the worst part of Closing Argument is that every juror seems to share brain cells with one another, but unfortunately since DGS1-3 is a case that I hate... All this information tells me is like if you told me that a food I don't like has one ingredient that would probably be better on other foods. (idk how to better describe it) (I guess i can also describe it like: I'd rather have that good thing on a good case than on a bad case)

[@alexanderexton5001]

This track slaps harder than Joan Garrideb :)

[@antieye555]

I always think of Fairplay when I hear this song

[@DraconicWanderer]

I always picture John Garrideb

[@HappyScaryMoxley]

"What? I can't hear you, you gotta speak up!"

[@chrisroserva]

Love the ost, it has a bit mischievous light tempo, like your thoughts are hopping around, gathering information here and there to trying to solve the mystery.

[@alrighty3719]

I am expert of guns.

[@SeanIncorporated]

There are so many story-based games where random characters try to convince the player that you should stick through the rest of the story. This is the first game I've played where YOU have to be the one to convince the characters to stick through the story.

[@ikarokruzpessoal]

"...I do not have stick. I have mouse."

[@leokicklighter8287]

Whatever happened to that guy anyway, I wonder...

[@DragovianFeline]

Anyone else noticed that Juror 6 from The Unspeakable Story is the russian guy from The Unbreakable Speckled Band?

[@hobojoe9638]

thought they were gonna go somewhere with that lmao

[@thetijtij]

M O U S E

[@HardGuess]

Yeah, and he is probably the cause for case 2-3 (I haven't seen it fully yet, but it's pretty fuckin obvious)

[@CurrentSoulKing]

@@HardGuess "o b v i o u s" LMAAAAOOOOOO

[@Crowens]

I mean Ryu points it out lol

[@veo1053]

Russian revolution had to be my favorite Jury

[@danllan835]

My favorite theme and mechanic

[@SquidInkPizza]

The Great Ace Attorney: Has Objectively Longer and More Difficult Trials Also The Great Ace Attorney: LeT's CrOsS-eXaMiNe ThE jUrY!

[@w4rw1nRNG]

It is so slowly, perhaps due you get to actually think about the contradiction after all the yappaniese stoped yapping, so you would 100% focus on how hard the music goes (for a long while)

[@Man-man9685]

"a knife did not fly through the window,the window was closed" "Actually he opened the window to remove the smoke"

[@Just-View]

I would like to see a closing argument as a musical scene with this theme as Naruhodo approaches the jurors while they express their arguments in syc to the music. Or at least an animated version of this.

[@gregoriodelimaalves6862]

i can't unhear i have a apple pen, help

[@DementedDuskull]

Gregorio de Lima Alves What have you done...

[@dogonit1936]

lmao

[@holysurvivor]

Gregorio de Lima Alves Ah I see you are a man of culture as well

[@TheMrTumbs]

That rip has no right to be that good

[@andrystein03]

where?

[@MohamedZayan-zf7yw]

This music honestly makes me can't help but imagine a parent-teacher conference somewhere set up like The Old Bailey's jury system. XD

[@AlanJia8]

0:45-1:16 and 2:10-2:41 These are da best parts

[@PsychedelicPenne]

That trombone… oh babby

[@juliogomesdesouza9035]

See? Metropolitan, Modern and Rational! Let's see if we can find a way to not disappoint the Metropolitan and Modern lady! (I'm glad you omitted the 'rational' there...)

[@TheUltimateRare]

we have this in english now. They are also working on finishing translating game 2.

[@gtxxtg8212]

The whole game was literally translated a year ago

[@TheUltimateRare]

@@gtxxtg8212 true.

[@gtxxtg8212]

@@TheUltimateRare Its on the Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2 channel

[@flipnotehatena830]

@@gtxxtg8212 BUT we wanna play it not watch iiiiit

[@gtxxtg8212]

@@flipnotehatena830 Then you have to wait for Scarlet Study I guess

[@ciel7480]

ryuunosuke walking.....

[@yesssint7243]

I *_WILL_* learn to play this on cello! I must!

[@shitpostmania6061]

You did?

[@yesssint7243]

Nope T-T I forgot about it

[@shitpostmania6061]

@@yesssint7243 sucks

[@shiftivous]

The licking a knife theme

[@fahadking5553]

I like that juror but the licking of the knife is TOO much

[@shiftivous]

@fahadking5553 i named this guy Harry Cutz, like Larry Butz 😭

[@fahadking5553]

@@shiftivous alright YEP that’s my headcanon now thank you very much.

[@mysteranonymous7773]

Last final episodes feels awkward for it to absent

[@Alb410]

this is a bop

[@samuellai1908]

When the jurors are split, I can hear Monokuma screaming

[@samuellai1908]

When no.2 gets a contradiction most of the time.

[@blackknightjack3850]

This was a fun minigame, but honestly they could have expanded the jury mechanic so much more. Two of the biggest problems Ace Attorney gameplay has always had are that you can, with few exceptions, press every statement with impunity (Hence Furio Tigre, one of the few witnesses you can't do this to, saying "This lowlife ain't no lawyer he just punches away at stupid details until he wins) and resetting with impunity if you get literally anything wrong. I honestly thought that having the jury lose its patience and be denied summary examination if you screw up too much would be a way to fix at least the former.

[@toumabyakuya]

Maybe with a difficulty toggle, but I don't think casuals would like this kind of mrchanic very much if they were forced to use them. Believe it or not, I have heard a lot of people actually hate the testimonies that penalize them for every Press.

[@blackknightjack3850]

@@toumabyakuya Yeah, I hated them too at first until I started to realize that what Furio Tigre said was right: You ain't no lawyer. You absolutely can just punch away at stupid details until you win. And there really isn't much challenge in that.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@blackknightjack3850 Repeating what you said prior wont make me change my opinion. Yeah, it might be more challenging your way, but that would alienate players. So either make your idea optional or not at all.

[@JesusSalazar-vx1us]

I prefer Closing Argument more than "Summonation Examination"

[@fahadking5553]

Yeah I agree.

[@Konizo_]

Stereoscopical....

[@seriousdraw]

STOP THE TRIAL, I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT STEREOSCOPIC IMAGES

[@companion_monke_gaming]

"You need a pee?"

[@fruitlion8]

Even though this game is my least favourite in the series, it has my favourite soundtrack just behind Layton Vs Wright. This is probably my favourite tune in the series, it just shouts desperation and it being your last chance to turn things around, or things will get very grim indeed.

[@realperson9951]

why least favorite?

[@fruitlion8]

@@realperson9951 The games are very much carried by their characters, and I found a majority in this game unlikeable at best, insufferable at worst. There are some exceptions though such as the excellently written Magnus McGilded and Van Zieks.

[@supercool1312]

0:46

[@cheukyinglau8011]

The tap dancing👏🏻👍🏻✌🏻🤘🏻😄😍😎🤩🥳

[@AliRMakki]

1000th like I am

[@muhammadakramalhanif6840]

Ngl, but this theme sounds familiar...

[@gtxxtg8212]

Mohimen Bařbasheņ

[@healingflower717]

PPAP

[@mochi6494]

I'm the 40th comment heheh

[@JordanKobernik]

You know I'm going to be honest when it comes to cases this game kind of sucks at it sure runaway room was God damn immaculate the first case was good and I like the last case enough the fourth case was whatever in the second case just did not need to exist and clearly the second game is better but I'll be damned the music is absolutely fire

[@accountwontlastlong1]

oi mate so i think this bloke did it cuz i dont like the way he dresses yeh? bloody minging innit