45 ACP for Bear Protection & Wilderness Carry | Caliber Discussion Ep. 7

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[@motorgearhead]

if you're not comfortable carrying a 1911 cocked & locked, a 1911 is not for you....

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

hiking in rough terrain is very different than flat concrete though. Terrain and situation need to be factored in

[@motorgearhead]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures - I understand your perception that carrying cocked and locked in rough terrain could be a safety concern. However, the general consensus by 1911 experts is the grip safety and slide lock safeties are more robust than you are giving credit. Carrying cocked and locked does take some mental adjustment to alter the Perception the pistol is more susceptible to unintentional discharge then a double action or single action striker fired weapons. There are a huge number of 1911s out there and you just really don’t hear about unintentional discharges that didn’t involve someone’s hand being on the grip and finger on the trigger. I went through the same emotional process myself. I in fact tried to see if I could get the hammer to drop by manipulating the trigger & tapping on an unloaded cocked and UNLOCKED pistol that didn’t have the grip safety activated. I could not get the pistol to drop the hammer without the pistol being in my hand and my finger on the trigger. This pistol is a colt 70 series that has about a 2.5 lb trigger pull. A good holster with positive retention should take care of the concern over the pistol coming out of the holster accidentally from contacting terrain. Again, if you’re not comfortable carrying condition one (cocked & locked) then don’t. But I would Choose a different firearm then carrying a 1911 with a hammer down on a round in the chamber (which i’m under the impression actually is dangerous in some 1911 pistols). Again, I’m no expert. It’s ok if you don’t agree. But I don’t carry a pistol that’s not “service ready” as I’m concerned I may not have time to cock a hammer or rack a slide. But to each there own…. Thanks for all your videos. You have provided some very informative content 👍 1911 condition of readiness article: www.usacarry.com/carrying-cocked-locked/

[@rolandsmith4394]

​@@JepsOutdoorAdventuresI've carried a full sized Springfield 1911 on six 50 mile, one day hilkes in Yellowstone, south central Montana, and book cliffs, Utah.

[@kentwilliams3326]

Cocked and Locked is fine with with a Series 80 Colt style 1911 or when carried in a thumb break holster that is designed for cocked and locked carry, such as a El Paso Saddlery #2.

[@MrNightwalker66]

How about just carrying fnx tactical da/sa plus its high capacity

[@cgsimons1187]

Thanks for making this video. The .45 is likely an ideal round for carry in areas where the potentially dangerous animals are limited to the less than gigantic size such as black bear, mountain lion, and perhaps hogs. I've heard rumor that the more likely dangerous predator you can run into is other men. So, the .45 even in a solid non-expanding round would also work pretty well also as an anti-personnel round which has been proven through history.

[@bobgordon1754]

It doesn't matter what gel test or other test show about what works best Since 1911 and even going back to 1873 the .45 has killed thousands of people in armed conflict and almost no one has griped about the .45 not being effective. That btw is with hard ball, not bonded hollow points.

[@crawdadlando4053]

There’s a surgeon in a bullet wound seminar who brought up a 45 acp not penetrating the sternum and stopping 1/2” from the heart. Rare case I’m sure but in a 45 I’ll take my ball ammo.

[@_k911]

@@crawdadlando4053or just get Hornady Critical Duty.

[@davidnoot4995]

A 1911 is safest carried cocked and locked(hammer back and thumb safety on). In this condition it is safer than a Glock because of on a 1911 you put the safety back on before reholstering. It is dangerous to carry a 1911 with a round in the chamber and putting the hammer down on a live round let alone pulling the hammer back before shooting unless you are in a Hollywood movie. Anyway,good video. Very informative on 45ACP for the trail. Just what I was looking for, and you are right about Glock like guns(including M&P and Sig and such), lighter weight, more rounds, simple, durable, reliable. If you have a 1911 though, make sure its a good one and you’ll be just fine.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I've been carrying the 1911, that was used in the video, alot during this hunting season cocked and locked and so far so good! Thanks for watching

[@broot1375]

If your not carrying a 1911 in the cocked n locked position then its obvious you are untrained and uninformed about the 1911 manual of arms. Oh and it's also obvious that you sit down to piss

[@cobia224...]

Spot on

[@Captured-On-Camera-Reviewer]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures (3:28 no handgun) - my handgun is chambered in .308 14.5 inch barrel. I just happened to put a brace on it! 😂

[@rburrows7786]

I e carried my 1911 .45 acp as my edc for 34 years. Excellent pistol and 1000% reliable

[@CrisBogley]

💯

[@armandhammer3782]

We carried 1911 A1s in the Army. We loved them.

[@ironmikehallowween]

The 45 ACP is a very versatile caliber, especially in an auto loader. For hunting, I use Magnums, but for general carry, the 45 is easier to carry, conceal, shoot well, and is versatile enough to fill many rolls. Thanks for the video.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I agree, it's really grown on me. And thank you!

[@michaelestrada2772]

This is a huge selling point in its favor over the 9mm. I wish more people would consider this when debating which of the two is better.

[@mikerobinson8734]

It’s for that reason I ditched the 10mm in favor of the 45. Versatility. I love 10mm but it is not ideal for concealed carry or personal protection outside the woods. More power than necessary, more recoil and blast. The 45 is a great round for both woods and the hoods, I load my Glock 21 with 45 super 255 grn Hardcast in the woods and switch to hollow points for a low pressure, subsonic easy to control self defense cartridge with proven man stopping power.

[@Ruger44Redhawk]

Not to picky, but I believe all reloading manuals refer to the cartridge as the .45 auto not the .45 acp. .45 acp obviously referring to the pistol. Although, I could be wrong on that.

[@Ruger44Redhawk]

​@@mikerobinson8734Yes. For the mountains I always have a revolver. But, I would feel safe with my 1911. The .45 auto cartridge is excellent for soft targets, intended for a big hole, lots of damage and shock. I prefer the .45 auto over most calibers for two legged self defense. Although, the .38 Special is another great option. I can fit the .38 +p LCRx in my pocket with ease and no print. But I love the sound of that big .45 auto and recoil is minimal out of an all-steel 1911.

[@triptre3638]

.45acp is great, but I recently converted my Glock 21 to .45 Super! Super is greater speed which pushes the .45 cal with better penetration! Really maximizes the .45 potential! I highly recommend it if you choose .45, covert your pistol to super or if it’s born capable load .45 Super and with hard cast 255 grain! 1000 -1100 fps is better than 950 in my opinion…..

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm looking into trying the .45 Super, seems like a great round! Thanks for the recommendation 👍

[@kentuckywindage222]

I've been thinking about this for some time. I carry 255gr Underwood which are extremely accurate for me in my Glock and Colt. 147gr Underwood in my Glock 9mm. When out in the timber. Even though I try to always have a long gun. Unless not wanting to draw attention.

[@johnnymccann5607]

I read your comment about 45 super. I have a Taurus pt845 in 45acp +p I don't think they make any more. I reload starline 45super brass, gt bullets 255gr hard cast wide mouth deep hp at cronygraphed speed of952 fps,also 250 gr xtp same. Ai don't get around our foothills and mountains much any more being disabled but not.helpless. bears not far from me .if fishing in bear area I would load 255gr 22 brinel hardness factor of 22 975 fps. Or take my Taurus tracker 44mag loaded with 265 or 280 hardcast of the same hardness at 1000-1050 fps.i load the super with the old triton ammunition company's 450smc load data. i think underwood still sells this round.the brass I s stronger than the 45super brass. it's a cut down 308winchester that use small rifle primers. I have thought about calling underwood to see if they would sell me just the 450smc brass. papa wishing you well 😊

[@calvinnelsonjr6465]

Should've got the 10mm drop in conversion barrel

[@cesarsaavedra3095]

Pssh 45 super just get the 460 rowland . Jk man im a big fan of 45 super

[@coaltrain4423]

BTW,the 1911in 45acp was first tested prior to it’s adaptation by the US Army on live horses,mules,and cattle.The US Army still had a calvary at that time and shooting the enemy’s mount out from under them was very common.The weapon had to be capable of one shot drops on large animals as well as humans.It’s well known that the 1911 passed the testing trials with flying colors.

[@iaidagger8278]

Yes Sir indeed!!!! 45ACP all the way !!!!

[@Olympic_TryAthlete]

They were crucifying people? Or did you mean “cavalry?”😊

[@iaidagger8278]

@@Olympic_TryAthlete He is tal King of cavalry for sure!!

[@djdrack4681]

There is a massive difference between just mass of the mammal and penetration Grizzly and even black bear fat can be 3-8in thick, and then cranial plates can stock even .40 s&w rounds. You can shoot the bear 10 times but if they're barely getting past the bone/fat, he'll be injured and really angry.

[@michaelheiss4456]

The cows were shot with about 5 rounds to drop them with side hits !

[@wayneselnau2457]

Very informative video. The 45acp is my favorite pistol caliber. It is a proven caliber and in my opinion the best cartridge ever made.

[@876mpr]

Good job. I’m glad to see you referencing TKO factor over muzzle energy. A .357 with 110 grain bullets will have plenty of muzzle energy, but that’s not going to help much on a tough critter. Definitely no FMJ RN’s they might penetrate well, but they just don’t do much damage along the way. I actually prefer a revolver loaded with heavy wide-nosed cast bullets that wouldn’t necessarily feed through an auto.

[@bobgordon1754]

I absolutely love them.

[@gradybird3336]

I just discovered your channel and subscribed immediately. You have a mature, informed, no-nonsense presentation we older folks appreciate. I do have to screech at you a bit, though. A 1911 is very safe to carry cocked and locked. That's how it was designed and is nothing to be nervous about. True, I'm an "older gentleman" who grew up on semi-autos with thumb safeties and that's my comfort zone, but re-holstering my striker-fired auto with no external hammer or tactile thumb safety finally creeped me out enough to switch back to John Browning's invention for daily carry. It takes just a nanosecond to sweep the safety off during the draw. To each his own, but the safeties on a 1911 are not a bad thing.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Thank you, I try lol! And thank you for the info, so far I've carried it cocked and locked while hunting and no problems at all. I agree with you: I like having a safety on my gun, it feels weird not having one now. Thank you again, and I greatly appreciate your support!

[@1001Hobbies]

VERY nice video. Thank you for putting in the effort to get all the data you presented. I live in Ohio and most of my life we didn't have to worry about bears. There were NONE. However, over the past 10 years our State has gained a population of them and that has changed preparation for backpacking through forests. Just a couple points, in your analogy of horsepower versus torque, a lot of people don't know that horsepower is merely a calculation of power, where as torque is an actual measurement of force. And when it comes to carrying a cocked and locked 1911, if a person is used to doing what it takes and is an active person, the weight is a non-issue. Also, people have their own personal comfort levels of safety. The 1911 being cocked and locked, the safety is on so it can't fire, and if something were to happen to the safety to cause it to be bumped off (difficult to do while holstered) it STILL cannot fire because of the grip safety not being depressed. So it is safe to carry that way. Being a single action firearm, the military wanted to be sure it could be carried in the most ready-to-use form, yet still be safe for the soldiers. This was why they demanded the grip safety. The gun was not originally designed with it.

[@kentwilliams3326]

The .45 /230 ball rounds from a 1911 was the best car door and windshield rounds that we tested. The other rounds were .357 Magnums (all weights from 110 grain to 180 grains) and did not equal the .45ACP, but rather shed their jackets, especially when fired at different angles through the wind shield.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Interesting, thank you for sharing!

[@lifeveteran9766]

Yeah, after a hunting experience where a white tail shot with a .308 played possum and jumped up just as we approached and it took four .45s (JHPs) to finish him. Then we took a vehicle defense shoot course. Same basic results you reported, so I now load my mags with alternating HST & RN to cover all defensive bases. Strictly ball for hikes in woods / hunting backup.

[@danwhyte3524]

I agree that's interesting not sure I would have expected that with the 45 ACP! Anyway I appreciate you doing these tests man they're all very interesting and I enjoy watching them, thanks, take care!!

[@jonathancaldwell4195]

1911 have way more internal safeties and actually have an external safety for cocked and locked. Way safer than a glock. More ammo is the only upside to glock. 10mm is definitely a better choice but those are nice stats I’ve never heard.

[@iamnobody9542]

Just ran across your channel. Thanks for being scientific in your analyses. I have black bear around here, and I carry a 1911 45 with hardball in the woods for 'bear repellent'. I can make more hits faster via reloads than with a revolver. The 1911 is MADE to BE carried 'cocked and locked'. You have THREE safeties! Grip, Thumb and your brain... Frankly, you couldnt give me a plastic striker fired pistol! Compare the triggers between DA revolver, striker fired and a 1911. Clean and short like a SA revolver. Trigger pull is a major factor in accuracy. Jerry

[@latigomorgan]

I carried a 1911 cocked-and-locked as my EDC for 25 yrs. Never had cause to be nervous for the very reasons stated above. But, someone did give me a plastic striker fired pistol, a Springfield XD45 which I found to be lighter, and has a 13+1 capacity and is still lighter when fully loaded than my 1911 with 8+1. With 2 spare mags, I'm at 40 rounds on my person of .45ACP. Why carry that much? Why not? But, at the range, it is the 1911 that still puts a smile on my face when I shoot it. It hasn't been retired, and I recently rebuilt it as the springs were getting worn. The plastic fantastic just doesn't make me smile the same way, even though it is reliable and accurate enough. I guess you could say the 1911 has a soul?

[@iamnobody9542]

@@latigomorgan Hi, Lat - Frankly you couldnt GIVE me one of those plastic matel toy guns! The main problems are light striker strikes, and a long trigger pull like a DA revolver. I REALLY like the short, crisp SA trigger on the 1911, Greatly aids in accuracy. (40 misses dont count...). Proper Maintenance Matters. For a full size 1911, you need to replace the main recoil spring ever 1,000 rounds, and the trigger and firing pin springs every 2,000. On a compact, every 500. Proper Lube, too. I like Jep, that kid does a GOOD job! Jerry

[@jamespugh]

Hey jep good Job man. Yes 45acp is perfect choice for some one to carry in the outdoors is their better yes . But has 45acp have must history of bring a stopper yes. With moder day bullet hard to beat. Even Hogan reloading maual had cool articles on 45acp useing all copper bullets.

[@MrFilmMakerNumber2]

.45 caliber head shot… it’s going down!

[@adammitchell0]

Very good information. Thinking of a 1911 with 45 super springs in it. I hear 460 Roland might be much for a steel 1911. In fact makes sense to use a heavy polymer gun because it will flex with the power. Just what I’ve heard on another video

[@dustyrhodes2717]

This is true unless you get the Rowland V2 recoil damper. It will help absorb the recoil. I had my 6.3” long slide Dan Wesson converted to .460 Rowland. With the weight of the long slide you do not need a comp. If I had a regular slide I would just go super. You only need to swap out a few parts to do so and no ugly comp is required.

[@timnelson75]

I like my revolvers but there's something special about the 1911 and the 45ACP. Thank you for putting this video together and sharing. Recently I've been considering the 45 Super within a 1911 platform for woods carry. I have a video request, all about the 45 Super with testing. Thanks for your time.

[@Platttraining]

Valuable information!! Great data and great job.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Thank you kindly, I'm glad to hear that!

[@robertmakowski7808]

The 1911 with the hammer cocked and safety on is exactly the same as your hunting rifle with the a round in the chamber and safety on... You may also want to look up and test the .45 Super...

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I know, but I hear that's almost taboo. I decided to go on the safe side with my comments. And the 45 Super and 460 Rowland are high on my list.

[@Wildwestwrangler]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures also double tap makes 450smc which is the same or a bit more powerful than the 45 super

[@robertmakowski7808]

@@tomemida Would have to disagree... 1911s from the factory have a 4-6# trigger pull. All of my hunting rifles have a 1.5-4# pull... I was in LE for 30 years and carried a 1911 for 5 on duty and every day since 1976 off duty. More officers have had unintentional discharges with safety on the trigger striker fired guns than any DA or SA semis or revolvers combined...

[@cgsimons1187]

Sometimes people get the notion of carrying a 1911 with the hammer back being the same as holstering a revolver with the hammer back. Which is a scary thought. However, they are different. While the trigger on many 1911s are pretty light, they have a manual safety as well as a grip safety. Taking this into consideration, they are actually safer than many other pistols. I can shoot a 1911 more accurately and with greater speed(probably those slender grips, light trigger, and weight of the pistol are helping) than a Glock 21. Though I'll give the Glock 21 credit for having greater capacity since those mags hold 13 rounds.

[@kentwilliams3326]

Cocked and Locked is fine with with a Series 80 Colt style 1911 or when carried in a thumb break holster that is designed for cocked and locked carry, such as a El Paso Saddlery #2.

[@gregmccarter3243]

I think 45 super ammo will stop any bear.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Hopefully I'll be able to test that someday

[@tradesman63]

If you do test it I hope you are hunting the bear, instead of the bear hunting you..

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

@@tradesman63 yeah, I didn't word my comment too well lol!

[@Wildwestwrangler]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures if you get your hands on an hk45 or usp 45 especially you can shoot 45 super without modification

[@bobjohnson1633]

Bear charges you, takes hits, keeps charging until it's killed. Rangers tell you you should have used rubber bullets. That way, it will not stop coming until YOU are dead.

[@Narsuitus]

The 45 is my favorite caliber for semi-automatic handguns. However, the 357 magnum is my favorite caliber for all handguns. When I photograph in the wilderness, I cannot carry a rifle or shot gun for protection from black bears, feral hogs, or wild dogs because I am carrying photographic gear. Instead, I carry a handgun. Thus far, my personal favorite is a 6-inch 357 magnum Smith & Wesson revolver loaded with 180 grain 357 magnum HSM flat-nose hard-cast lead ammo. However, I have recently considered carrying my 6-inch 45acp Heckler & Koch semi-automatic loaded with one of the following 45acp ammo: 1. 255 grain Buffalo Bore hard-cast lead 2. 255 grain Double Tap hard-cast lead 3. 255 grain Underwood hard-cast lead 4. 240 grain Federal solid-core synthetic Thanks for your video. I found it very useful.

[@Hialeah1925]

I am considering the same

[@andymullarx6365]

A fine choice for that purpose.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Don't really understand the aversion to the 1911 "cocked and locked" carry, while suggesting the Glock as the alternative. The 1911 is a very safe firearm to carry in that condition, and frankly, should only be carried in that condition. Compared to the (no external safety) striker-fired offerings, where many people carry IWB pointed at their family planning unit, it doesn't make sense to me. All you do is grasp the grip safety, sweep the thumb safety off, and you then have a nice, crisp, accurate 1911 to fire. The weight is your friend while shooting heavy for caliber +p stuff. The 45 sized Glock is a piece of 2x4 to grip onto. If ammo capacity is a concern above 8 rounds, then go with a M&P M2.0 (S&W has optional 14 round mags for that), FNX45, or something else that isn't a block of wood to try to control. Back in the day, the 1873 Colt SAA with 5 or 6 shots of 1050 fps 255 cast bullets .45 Colt was enough to stop a horse....or a bear. The 255 grain .45acp+p isn't far off from that same system, but holds 8 rounds and all you have to do is pull the trigger again and again.

[@greybeard277]

Good points on the 45 auto. I disagree about carrying cocked and locked, it is very safe and how the pistol is designed, but unless you carry a double stack you are better off with a Glock. As far as the hairy man goes, I've never seen one but how can anyone discount the many thousands of people who have?

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Thank you, and I appreciate your input! And that's one of the biggest reasons for why I started Idaho Bigfoot: people are seeing something, the question is what exactly is it? At the end of the day, its a fascinating phenomenon at the very least. Anyway, thanks for watching!

[@ricksrealpitbbq]

This is my first time experiencing your channel. I love your explanations and approach to teaching and sharing your knowledge. Subscribed 🎉

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm glad to hear that, thank you!

[@jwgbmp40]

I had to put a 20lbs recoil spring in my 1911 for the buffalo bore, (as recommended by buffalo). After that it liked to stove pipe with the federal 230g ball ammo. But it's a great gun and the buff ammo runs good in it with that spring.. If its all you got, its all you got. better than a stick indeed.

[@Wicked_He_Bad]

45 acp 1911 has won 2 world wars cant say that about any other gun it was good enough for anything outside the USA

[@AZ-yo1qd]

45 acp won 2 world wars?))) Are you kidding?))))))

[@coaltrain4423]

Cocked and locked is the safest way to carry a 1911.Case closed.

[@Mike-xi4zt]

a Glock 21 with one in the chamber is in fact cocked and ready to negligently discharge. I have taken 3 deer over several decades with 45 acp. It seems to work fine. I think I was using 200 gr JHPs for all of them.

[@richhauxwell7848]

Deer and smaller mammals are a huge difference

[@Mike-xi4zt]

​@@richhauxwell7848 I've shot 2 black bear with 357 mag revolver 6 inch. 1 went about 50 yard with double lung hit the other went about 2 steps.

[@henryschmidt636]

I feel more comfortable with cocked and locked than with plastic trigger dingus safeties. Even better is DA/SA. Have you considered best ammo options for wild hog? Here near the Everglades, bear are the size of dogs, hogs the size of VW's.

[@highsecurityagent8778]

There is a true story of a man killing a grisly bear with a HIPOINT JHP 45acp pistol. You can look it up. The bear wondered upon the man and his young son at their home in a northern state or maybe even Alaska. He fired several shots.

[@wynnholdal2317]

If you carry a 1911 with a round in the chamber it must be cocked hammer locked. Thanks, Wynn

[@steveorules3972]

I'd be very interested in seeing how a 357sig would do. I've been researching this gun and it's quite impressive. I have owned both 45 and 40 cal but from what I've read the 357sig has greater stopping power, higher velocity and higher muzzle energy then both the 40 and 45. The 357sig can produce 1475fps and muzzle energy up to 620. It's Impressive.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm thinking about getting a conversion for it, but I'm kinda leaning towards getting a 460 Rowland... decisions, decisions.

[@steveorules3972]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures I hear you there. ✌️

[@jimbob465]

357 mag has use against critters because it can fire 180-200gr bullets. 357 mag is good for person defense with the 125gr bullets. 357 sig cannot use heavier slugs than a 9mm, and therefore is not as good as even a 40 or 45 for shooting claw critters.

[@northtexasairgunner]

Jeps, you should do a 45 super

[@ryanranard5187]

Stopping power 🤣

[@CrossingFist]

1911’s are meant to be carried cocked and locked, and between the thumb safety, grip safety, and internal safeties, is safer for many than a Glock. If you’re afraid to carry a gun the way it is meant to be carried, carry something else. No trainers recommend carrying a 1911 with a hammer down on a live round.

[@factsoftheconfederacy7151]

I wonder what brand of load he was using for his 230 grain .45 ACP bear attack. If it was Speer lawman 230 grain, it would be a bit on the hotter side. If it was federal American eagle, it would possibly be on the average end (from many of the tests I’ve seen). I carry a Glock 21 everyday and it’s hard to beat its firepower in such a lightweight package. I have a mix of loads I carry depending the time of year. In the summer, I carry Federal HST 230 grain .45 ACP, Winchester T-series 230 grain .45 ACP, and Speer Gold Dot 200 grain +P .45 ACP. It really depends where I am going. In the fall and winter, I carry Hornady critical duty 220 grain +P. With heavy clothing, it’s nice to not have a hollow point that won’t clog. I will carry standard 230 grain FMJ (in Winchester white box or Remington UMC) in my backup magazine. If I’m in the woods, I’ll carry either the critical duty 220 grain +P or standard 230 grain FMJ (again in Winchester white box or Remington UMC). I have yet to have to fire it on dangerous game, but I took a whitetail with Remington UMC 230 grain FMJ with ease. Hard-cast may be in my future, but I’ve found I haven’t needed them. I’ll be hiking in the smoky mountains in the fall and I have no doubt that (God Forbid I have to) it will take a black bear.

[@JerryWillis-ub9lb]

One of my heroes is John Moses Browning.

[@LUVDOGS1954]

very nicely done study...thank you

[@LUVDOGS1954]

Hey youngster, I have carried the 1911 cocked and locked for 50 years, and it was in fact used in an encounter. The huge advantage of the 1911 over the Glock is the trigger. John Browning designed the C&L technique, and he is way smarter than you and me! It just takes some experience. Simply use a pancake style holster with a thumb break. Thanks again.

[@Wildwestwrangler]

if Roy had used a hardcast, or a fmj flat nosed bullet like the winchester USA ready 45acp but it's loaded to about 880fps and has a 230gr flat nose, but I'd rather have underwood 45acp+p 255gr hardcast

[@dwaynewalker986]

.45acp isn't the be all and end all of the 1911 format. Many people in Alaska carry .45 Super or .45 Rowland as bear protection from a handgun. I shoot .45 Super from my sr1911 , 185 gr. @ 1300 or 230 gr. @ 1100 suits me just fine and all that from a Plain Jane 1911 slightly modified (spring pressure and compensator) to fire the more powerful cartridge.

[@FearNoSteel]

Hammer being cocked on 1911 is nerve racking? wha? Yet, with the Glock the striker firing pin is cocked and under spring tension isn't? The 1911 has a manual safety, grip safety and the hammer also has a half cock position that can catch the hammer, series 80 also has a firing pin block, seems like a lack of information and training than a valid concern.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

For some. I've been carrying the 1911 for 3 months now cocked and locked, no issues 👍

[@FearNoSteel]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures carry on 👍

[@rickpartlow534]

I don't know how you could feel uncomfortable with a cocked and locked 1911 but comfortable with what is basically a cocked and unlocked Glock.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm comfortable with it and carried it all last year as my sidearm while hunting without problems 👍

[@buskman3286]

I lived in Alaska for 8 years/spent a LOT of time in the bush. "Bear Protection" and "handgun" (when applied to browns and grizzlies) shouldn't even be in the same sentence. I'd give you a reluctant "maybe" if you KNEW you'd only encounter black bears and insisted on carrying a pistol only. A favorite for AK bear protection is a 45-70 lever gun. FWIW, if you get surprised by a brown/grizzly bear attack, there is almost no chance you are going to get a pistol out of a holster in time to do anything.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Long guns are always better performance-wise, no doubt. Thank you for stopping by and sharing!

[@buddysumner4022]

If u like the 45 check out the 45 super and 450 smc rounds ,

[@D-A-1776]

Not my first choice but if it's all you have its better than a stick. I carry a 454 and 10mm in bear country while hiking

[@davidfields4981]

Those in Law Enforcement who needed to stop someone where they needed great penetration, choose the 357 Sig over the 45 ACP based on their experiences of using both in dangerous situations.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm in the process of testing the 357 Sig and can see why

[@josephshaff5194]

S&W M&P 45 Compact, Barrel length 3.3 in., ammunition: BB 255 gr., Hardcast, FLT Nose or Equivalent. I know I'm really pushing it w/ that barrel length. Right now that's all I have. Guess I should study for a woods carry sidearm.

[@Last-Varangian]

You wanna talk nerve wracking, try lowering the hammer of a 1911 with a live round in the chamber! Carrying cocked and locked is very safe, especially compared to carrying any Glock pattern gun with no safety at all. I know they have a little switch thing on the trigger, but that's equivalent to carrying a 1911 cocked and unlocked, and if it's a series 80 it still has two safeties to disengage (grip and trigger ) compared to the one that's deactivated simply by placing your finger on the trigger. I get it, that cocked hammer just looks dangerous, and in 30 years of carrying one, I've actually had people come up to me twice to tell me that I've accidentally cocked my sidearm. Consider all this and I think you'll become very comfortable with a cocked and locked 1911.

[@richardthomas6602]

FNX45 Tactical is a double action single action autoloader with 15 round magazines. Regarding 1911s, they are safer to carry in condition one (cocked & locked) than a Glock or any other pistol without a manual safety, of which a 1911 has two.

[@mikerobinson8734]

A Glock has 3 safeties. It is ultimately impossible for a Glock to fire without the trigger being pulled. Holster discipline and trigger awareness is common sense, if you can’t manage a Glock than you probably shouldn’t own a firearm.

[@richardthomas6602]

@@mikerobinson8734 people have much higher unintentional discharge rates with glocks than with 1911s. It is also easier to take a glock away from someone than a 1911 because a weaker four digit grip.

[@tedpendagast579]

@@richardthomas6602 weaker four digit grip What kind of crazy crap are you inventing

[@richardthomas6602]

@tedpendagast579 a four digit grip is weaker than the five digit grip made possible with the 1911's thumb safety. Of course, this is possible with handguns without this safety if you fire the pistol and don't reset the trigger. Not likely to be a good solution.

[@tedpendagast579]

@@richardthomas6602 what are you going on about?? What does a thumb safety have to do with holding the firearm??

[@adonikam1]

You mentioned my favorite rifle caliber 444 Marlin, that would be in my hands in bear country! F%@k the bear spray!! Wind will blow it in your face! I carry a 1911 45acp EVERY DAY ALL DAY, it's NOT TO HEAVY! I'm a little guy too. Yep Buffalo Bore 255g is EXCELLENT FOR BLACK BEAR!! I figure Bigfoot too! Great video!!

[@johnshipley9755]

Everybody can talk about what they carry and what they're going to do with a charging bear, for everybody out there packing automatics you are putting your life in danger so stick with the big revolvers or 45-70,shotgun with bear slugs,,,,

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I agree about the long guns, but must argue that most failures that happen with semi autos are due to user error, or to bad maintenance. If you practice a lot and keep your firearm in good condition, then you shouldn't worry about any problems. But yes, a good revolver will always take the cake when it comes to reliability. The biggest key, in my opinion, is that one needs to keep his head on a swivel and do his best to not get between a rock and a hard place in the first place lol. But anyway, just my two cents. Thanks for watching!

[@Michael-cx1zi]

I wouldn’t plan to use a 45acp handgun as proper brown bear protection. Now if it was being fired from a carbine maybe but still not a top choice for me. However to each his own so have at it if you like.

[@donbailey8409]

NO HARD CAST IN GLOCK?? XDM THEN KNOW LW BARREL

[@Wildwestwrangler]

you can shoot hardcast in a stock glock barrel!!! as long as the brinel hardness is 18 or above. double tap, buffalo bore, and underwood run theirs at 20 to 21 brinel hardness, and they won't lead a glock barrel!!! now regular cast lead is a different beast altogether cause regular cast lead only runs from 7 to about 11 brinel.

[@donbailey8409]

@@Wildwestwrangler THANKS, INTERESTING , I HAVE BEEN TOLD NOT TO, IM WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS BRINEL A BIT MORE. I AM NOT A RELOADER GUY. THANK YOU

[@RichFesler-ig6jp]

I would like to see you test the Hornady Critical Duty .45 acp 220gr +p flex lock. See how their claims of “barrier blindness” hold up to your jugs testing for bear country. Thx

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'll look into that, thank you for the suggestion!

[@beakfish7319]

Underwood makes a really great 45acp +p hardcast bear load too!

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I was able to test it after this video. And I agree, its one of my favorites!

[@beakfish7319]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures oh that is awesome! Haha

[@SnipeU696]

I thank you for the video. Some free advice. A person could carry an XD instead of Glock. P.s. Contact the manufacturer of Glock and Springfield arms and verify that the XD can handle a small amount of 45 Super /+ P ammo, instead of worrying about a Glock.

[@keithmccready3158]

I did contact them and they can handle 45 plus P ammunition .

[@highsecurityagent8778]

HIPOINTS 1095TS 10MM Carbine would be an idea gun and reasonably priced. Underwood 200 and 220gr 10mm hard cast.

[@GunsHarleysUSA]

Well done 👍

[@redteam9881]

45 Super or 450 SMC and 255gr Hardcast for Bear In Glock 21 for Alaska

[@Texas2Step79]

The Army taught us to use your pistol to get to your rifle

[@calvinnelsonjr6465]

In the Marine Corps we we trained to always have your rifle within arms length

[@michaelhoffman5201]

Bear spray works sometimes sometimes just passes them off, dirt naps are the only sure way. 45 auto great cartridge for people, dear, or below, but for sure 45 lc ++ and up would be better, 44 mag, 357, 10 mm, 454. 460, 50mag better still and not hollow points, those spread and shock but don't penatrate. Which means more fragile targets, like people, won't be over penatrated, and will recieve greater damage, but large, tough, angry, hopped up on hormones ect. 45 acp will, with proper ammo, squeek by, average wild boor its good but for some domestic wild hybrids reaching 1/2 a ton, some thing bigger would still be better. Your carry fire arm is some thing you bet your life on so carry your best bet, and if your in a mixed target zone wolf and bear nothing says you can't double carry, a high capacity smaller and a lower capacity heavy. The best of both worlds.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Completely agree, thanks for watching!

[@bradwhite4827]

You can carry a 1911 cooked and locked. Meaning it has a thumb safety. I'm not at all trying to call you out and love your videos. I just think carrying a glock or 1911 would be very effective for larger game in the woods. Provided they all cycle properly lol.

[@anthonymihelich6501]

Cocked and locked is safer than a Glock trigger to me. If something gets in the trigger that is not going off because the safety is on and the grip safety is not engaged. Where if something like a stick gets into a Glock trigger there is no external safety

[@45.Slanging]

Glock 21 with 460Rowland conversion. Gets the ol .45 up to 44mag energy

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm looking to test some Rowland rounds this year, it's gonna be great! i just wish a manufacturer would make a .460 Rowland firearm from the factory that's affordable.

[@geraldkriss1120]

G.K. USA. What about a double stack 45acp with 14 big ones in + p. I have one and it never fails to shoot in standard or plus p loadings. The pistol is a Para-ordnance P-14. I have magazines with base plates that increase the capacity to 15 or 16 rounds. Happiness is a pile of warm, spent brass.

[@motorgearhead]

regarding cast bullet weights... I have some molds that drop bullets that are several grains light or heavy depending on the lead mixture thats being used.o

[@cwyoming7004]

Should the recoil springs be upgraded when using these higher power loadings? Thanks for the great video

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Thank you, glad you liked it. To be completely honest we haven't had too switch them out ourselves since the stock spring on this A1FS ejects the rounds well. Depending on the gun you might need to change them or add a recoil buffer pad, It's hard to say.

[@doranmaxwell1755]

I load a lot of 45 acp and so I have tried a lot of loads. what I have settled on as an all around load is my cast and coated 200 grain SWC at right at 1050 fps. if this load will not do it then a 45 acp will not do it. are their commercial ++++P rounds with lighter slugs that are faster? yes but... I have 185 molds and the 200 is a way better alll around bullet for feeding and accuracy... The SWC bullet for 45 was originally a target bullet at low velocity but works great for high velocity my load shoots cloverleaf groups at 25 yards from a sandbag rest. So this is my round of choice for the 45 acp... Glock for tense work? naa.. the grip angle is wrong meaning if you have to point shoot you are screwed. Better to have a gun that points like your finger.. that would be a SAA 1873 or clone or the 1911 or any handgun with those grip angles.

[@craigcook1571]

.45acp for bear defense, is like .22lr for self defense to me, only if that’s all you have. I would rather have at least.357mag, or better yet a 10mm. .44mag for most people is to uncontrollable for even semi accurate follow up shots, and the .460 and larger handguns are worse.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

For anything over 800 lbs, I absolutely agree. Thanks for watching!

[@vincentlavallee2779]

Hendershots I have created a ballistics file which contains over 3,500 entries, covering 35 handgun calibers and 25 rifle ones. I mention this to so I can 'rightly' discuss your comment about no handgun having the same power as rifles. Well, this state is a bit too broad, and in the long run, incorrect as well. This tells me that you have not really kept up with the development of handguns and their ammo. First let me list the handguns I am referring to: 1) .460 S&W (2005), 2) .500 S&W (2003), and 3) the .500 Bushwacker (2022). I have all three of these listed in my ballistics file. Here is the max power for manufactured ammo for each: 1) .46- S&W tops out at ~2,885 ft. lbs (Buffalo Bore and Grizzly). 2) .500 S&W tops out at 3,040 ft. lbs. (Buffalo Bore). 3) .500 Bushwacker tops out at 5,027. With regards to the Bushwacker, I could only find ammo made by the company that makes the gun, although there may be some other sources of ammo by now. So, now let's look at rifles. One of the best overall hunting rifle is the 30-06, with tops out at 3,246 (Buffalo Bore). We can step up the rifle power with the .444 Marlin which is around 3,343 (Underwood), and migrate to the 338 Win Mag up to 4.029 (Hornady Super Performance), and then go to the .378 Weatherby Mag which goes up to a very impressive 5,602 (Hendershots). So, while the 30-06 and the 444 Marlin just beat out the .460 S&W and the .500 S&W, the .500 Bushwacker competes in power with the very high end powerful rifles. Of course, there is more than just power, and all three of these revolvers have very noticeable kick, making the next shot more difficult than with a rifle. But if the rifle is a bolt or lever action, then they become less usable for subsequent shots also. So, I would caution you on toting rifles as the ultimate! By the way, my file is available to anyone who wants it, and it is free and is released as a PDF file, so it is completely safe and anyone can read, independent of their type of computer you have. The file is too big to use on a cell phone. To get my file, click on my name here, then click on 'About', and either email me or go to my website and find the file there, which you can then download and keep. Besides ballistics info on each round listed, I give the manufacturer, the box price, the price per round, the type of bullet, the ammo rating (when supplied by the retailer), and its availability, plus lots more.

[@dustyrhodes2717]

This discussion is a dead end when 45 Super a d 450 SMC (Double Tap) is available.

[@josephshaff5194]

Loss of bullet mass must occur in the bore due to friction.

[@badbattleaxe5832]

When I am in the north woods, I carry a POF AR .308 with a 20 rounds magazine. I alternate from hard cast to hollowpoint ammo in the magazine. I have yet to use it, but when the time comes, I know to put the brown bear down.

[@haroldenglish943]

Question: What is a POF?

[@nateohman4713]

You are alternating hard cast and hp's in a 308? 😅

[@johnsechrest1880]

I really don't understand the loyalty people have with Glock. There are so many excellent guns out there now, why be closed minded. I like the 1911 myself and have no problem cocking the hammer back.

[@csipawpaw7921]

There are other 45 options. Like the Springfield XD 45 or the S&W 45. Me personally, I don't like the Glocks.

[@michaelfay794]

Buffalo Bore rules

[@waynekelly1419]

Where can you find the Hard Cast ammo that you have reviewed? I live in Boise and the gun shops don’t carry Hard Case loads.

[@paulvogelman8423]

Which cal do you prefer 45 or 40 for dangerous game 800 lbs or less?

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

45 honestly. Both are great though

[@RGL01]

I can no longer find Double Tap ammo. Do you know anything about this company’s status? Their website shows all of their loads as “sold out”. Thanks in advance.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I saw that too, I wonder why. Hopefully they are alright. They make good ammo

[@Hutzjohn]

hey where is you bigfoot channel?

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

kzbin.info/door/sEzpmwVamLXwZnI0FsTqsg

[@robertbrooks4413]

Would a 50BMG suffice?

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

No

[@ric2267]

Where did you get the size of the animal? I mean why is 800 pounds the max

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

It's my personal feelings more than anything. It's a good caliber, but I'm not comfortable with anything bigger than that weight range myself and want others to exercise due caution carrying it in areas where the game exceeds that weight. It can probably do the trick, but I don't personally feel it's powerful enough. Hope that makes sense 👍

[@ric2267]

@Jep's Outdoor Adventures Yep. Personally I think the 44 mag is the way to go but I'm very interested in the buffalobore 45 ammo. Didn't know they made a 45 in Hard cast. Appreciate the video.

[@gunslinger3090]

good video but you are missing the point on safety. you don't know much about the 1911. when it is cocked & locked it also have a grip safety, a glock is more dangerous you just don't see the striker cocked. that why more police officers are killed with handling glocks than any other gun in history. as far as weight , a heavier gun is better to handle recoil. plus glocks are known to go off when holstering do to no safety. also you have to change the barrel if you shoot hardcast bullets . plus when shooting hotter or target ammo the glocks are known to blowup do to not fully supporting the case in 40s&w or 45acp better known as GLOCK KABOOM. SO SO MUCH FOR GLOCKS. GET A sig 220,320 or xdm , h&k ,m&p 45acp.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I have been carrying the .45 (while hunting) cocked and locked and completely agree. Thanks for stopping by and sharing!

[@TheKalico23]

I have this ammo for my 10mm when I'm out in the woods,and I have my wife carry my Glock 45 .Would this ammo be sufficient aswell for bear or cougar in 45 caliber?

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Yes, any one of the hardcasts I tested should work given how well they performed👍

[@TheKalico23]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures Thanks 👍

[@demo2952]

Grizzly bears and brown bears are the same thing

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

They are scientifically, but according to the Boone and Crockett club record books, there is a dividing line that separates which one is which. The locals consider anything inland a Grizzly and anything coastal a brown bear. The larger size of the coastal ones is to be noted mostly because of beached whales and fish being abundant 👍 www.boone-crockett.org/record-grizzly-ignites-questions-about-trophy-categories

[@demo2952]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures I really appreciate the technical reply. 👍🏻

[@Washoejim]

good video.

[@p90man]

Can you test the underwood 255gr hardcast 45acp +p

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'll look into getting some 👍

[@RGL01]

Have you any experience with Underwood 255 grain hardcast, powder coated rounds?

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I just picked some up, so hopefully we'll be able to try them out soon.

[@dwayneroberts6616]

A solid cast 45 acp +p ammo will take out any black bear wouldn't want it for a Grizzly though.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Agreed. And I don't blame you, Grizzlies are something else. Thanks for watching!

[@dougwebster8868]

This is a very interesting article. I carried a 1911 with hand loaded 255 grain hard cast in Alaska in the late 70s. I felt a little underguned at the time. So traded up to 44 mag. Maybe I screwed up. I never had to shoot but came close a time or two, lucky I guess.

[@dwayneroberts6616]

@@dougwebster8868 No sir I think you made the right choice. I think 45 +p is okay for black bear but I wouldn't trust it to stop a Grizzly.

[@wizardofahhhs759]

At 900+ fps .45acp is nothing to sneeze at.

[@trumptorianguard4617]

When people ask about Big Foot you should immediately ask them their opinion on Martians, Unicorns and Global Warming.

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'd rather not lol! I certainly don't believe any of those (at least the first two and some of the third) but some are all-in on those and it's best you leave them alone, they can be a bit kooky if you ask me

[@trumptorianguard4617]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures 10-4! I copy that! Thanks for your video. Very informative. Take care 👍🇺🇸

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

@@trumptorianguard4617 I'm glad you liked it! And thank you, you as well 👍

[@davidlucero7725]

Would you carry a .45 in western Montana?

[@donaldmartin4980]

I can tell you from personal experience that a .45 ACP against a pissed off 325 pound black bear is NOT adequate. The only reason my nephew is still alive is because a .270 Winchester entered the fight . The bear pretty much ignored 10 rounds of 230 grain hydra shoks … six were fatal hits

[@zoltanvonsomogyi7272]

Hollow points are for defense against humans, not large animals. The discussion here is about hard cast solid bullets that penetrate to far greater depths. Hollow points are specifically made to not over-penetrate and cause collateral damage in an urban environment. Choose the proper ammo!

[@donaldmartin4980]

@@zoltanvonsomogyi7272 The point was these bullets expanded in vital organs and still did not deter the bear , it seemed to enrage him more than anything else . Solid bullets just punch tiny holes in things …. Yes like skulls and heavy bone …. They also glance off things like skulls and heavy bones …

[@nickadkins7765]

FNX 45 Tactical, Glock 21, or the new FN 545

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

The FNX 45 looks pretty neat, but I don't know much about it. I'd have to go with the Glock if I wanted simple reliability. I'll look into those other two a bit more now though, they sound pretty neat

[@nickadkins7765]

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures FNX 45 Tactical has been around for 10 years now i think. It is "the tactical .45 full size" to own. She's a beautiful piece!

[@ajdube9967]

You just need to be smart enough not to accidentally touch your Glock off accidentally...

[@peterschmidt2849]

Cool 🔥🇺🇸

[@anthonythank7316]

I was gonna talk crap about how much you talked….. but brah! This was a great video frfr

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

Thanks lol

[@ChronicalsofAl]

I'd hate to be the one poor SOB that runs into an 805lb brown bear while carrying the 45! Just kidding, i understand what you are saying but the best handgun for bear defense is the largest caliber you can shoot well (and fast)

[@jaymesf1669]

Hey Jep 👋 111 grain 1700 fps monolithic 45 acp plus p “grind hard ammo?”

[@JepsOutdoorAdventures]

I'm afraid I've never heard of that. I'll look into it 👍 But to be completely honest, I have a hard time believing it will be as good as a good hardcast!