45 Years Before the Phantom Menace: The Fascinating Era of Star Wars We All Forget

[@EmperorNapoleon1815]

This era of Star Wars is arguably the peak. It’s so fascinating and entertaining. Darth Plagueis is an immaculate novel, and is set entirely in this time period. Many characters important to the Clone Wars and Imperial eras, such as Grievous, Dooku, Obi-Wan, Windu, and Sidious, got their start in this period. It’s so foundational to the six-film saga that we all enjoy.

[@kianvandenberg6364]

If you’re interested in this era read Darth Plagueis, I finished it a few days ago and it’s amazing

[@reddeaddude2187]

It deserves a movie. And the Darth Bane books deserve a trilogy.

[@EmperorNapoleon1815]

Absolutely! One of only two books I’ve ever given two readings (the other being the Hobbit).

[@liamhoughton2461]

I've read/listen to the plagueis novel more than I've seen most of the films

[@cpob2013]

​@reddeaddude2187 I think Plagueis could be two parts, divided at Palpatine's recruitment.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

One of the best Star Wars Books, one can even say sci-fi books

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

Wow, perfect timing, literally just finished rereading Darth Plagueis. Such a banger of a book 🔥

[@shanenolan5625]

It's recommended the tarkin novel, smare writer , picks up the story. Tarkin, vader and palpatine are the main characters, the audiobook is wonderful

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

@@shanenolan5625 On my list for sure, I also listen to the audiobooks, they're incredibly engaging :)

[@shanenolan5625]

@@punishedvenomsnake716 the voice actor is good British, does a wonder tarkin, and palpatine. Even his female voices are good

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

James Luceno brings his A game whenever he writes a story. He also worked very hard to keep lore consistent. Check out Labyrinth of evil or Rise of Darth vader which both work very well with Episode 3.

[@MoggerNChief]

One of the best!

[@aw3299]

Honestly the phantom menace needs it's own prequel trilogy so it finally starts to make sense for your average movie-goer.

[@Kattbirb]

I am of the opinion that the prequel trilogy needed to be a twelve-part HBO-style series, or maybe a twenty-four part series.

[@ronjon7942]

@@KattbirbYup. The story is just too complex…’complex’ in a good way.

[@reybot5125]

I’m of the mind that the Phantom Menace didn’t need its own movie. It could have been a series instead and we could have had teen Anakin in the first film, had him turn in the second, and then have a full film of the Jedi purge and Darth Vader. It’s just a really boring story, and it’s forced to carry a heavy burden of world building too.

[@Subzerobyrd]

Would be cool if done right but apparently good writing is too difficult for anyone at Disney or lucasfilm, not saying that writing is easy but that is their job and they aren’t even competent at it

[@reybot5125]

@@Subzerobyrd it honestly feels like the writing draws from boring board room data on what audiences like. Like, it feels like the real reason Rey ended being a Mary Sue was because they wanted to show off force powers for the audience. They wanted the sequel trilogy to show the force the way the prequels did, but without any Jedi characters in the script

[@mayeuldelaunay4058]

The Republic and Jedi really did treat the Kaleesh like shit, using them to do their dirty work against the Bitthævrians, only to abandon them and betray them in the Yam'rii's favor. Grievous' hatred of them was very justified.

[@herbertshminkel9033]

It's like you've never seen a star wars movie in your life. Or the Last of the Mohicans

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@herbertshminkel9033 wtf??

[@based_space215]

​@@herbertshminkel9033 Wut

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

This surely took a lot of work to put together. Good to see such an important period of time covered so heavily.

[@ronjon7942]

Yes! I thought he did an excellent job!

[@alexbraswell5021]

Broo I just started the video and 1st time on your channel but the battlefront loading noises/intro cut scene is GENUIS

[@isaackim7675]

We need a Tales of the Bounty Hunters featuring the top three: Jango/Boba Fetts, Cad Bane, and Aurra Singg

[@exar1806]

Book was 100x better than the Boba Fett show

[@cpob2013]

Singg is interesting but cad bane is just a replacement for Durge and that is a beast that needs screen time

[@MourningNihilist]

What about the torture robot, didn't he have a story in bounty hunters?

[@777-pdf]

I never forgot, I love reading and focusing on Star Wars Legends. It was WAY better before the Disney disaster. 💯

[@lightningboltt5437]

What dinsey disaster, there is no disney, only legends

[@777-pdf]

@lightningboltt5437 Well said, Disney doesn't exist in Star Wars as far as true fans are concerned.

[@Bryan-wu1ss]

@@777-pdfeach generation has their favorite series I love everything star wars

[@Bryan-wu1ss]

@@777-pdfeach generation has their favorite series I love everything star wars

[@vitorpereira9515]

In the shadows, it was the Sith who weakened the Republic, creating the crises that shook it. Prime examples of their manipulations were seen on Yinchorr, Galidraan, and Naboo. Darth Tenebrous, a cunning Sith Lord, maintained a network of pirates and terrorists, sowing chaos and disorder. Meanwhile, Plagueis, a master of intrigue, orchestrated gatherings where unsuspecting guests plotted against the Republic, unaware that they were unwittingly tangled in Sith matters.

[@henrylawson261]

As a Sith Lord I would caveat your ideas as lacking subtlety and raise you a silent benefactor who is unknown but points you to where the money can really be found. I don't care if it leads to your eventual demise. I can't be found if you're floating in space or face down on a planet. LOL

[@vitorpereira9515]

@@henrylawson261 Darth Plagueis had 2 places to get rid of "undesirables": A reclamation station belonging to the Dug crime boss Cabra and a facility in Mustafar. Darth Maul spent his early years in the latter under the care of custody droids.

[@alswearengine4867]

@@vitorpereira95152 places were mentioned. Surely Magister Demask had access to more options if push came to shove?

[@CaptShriver]

How many feel that the clone Wars and the prequel era by far is better than the sequel era??? Why or why not???

[@SpaceCase1214]

I'd say that most people prefer the former to the latter. The PT era actually has solid world building, unique designs, has movies that actually fit together, etc.

[@noahquintin3013]

The prequel movies very obviously have George Lucas's style, things people both love and hate, but that's what makes good art. The sequels feel corporate, safe, and utterly devoid of an artistic touch except for The Last Jedi. At least that movie tried something new even if it didn't pan out well.

[@fevart.v.5414]

I think the reason people generate towards the prequel/clone era is because of how much lore has come out of it. All the spin offs, and shows are what people really gravitate towards. Also politically I think it paints a pretty awesome picture of why the empire rose. Whereas the George Lucas Films feel more like a movie following main characters and its more about this path of growth, discovery, and redemption. Not much about world building I feel. You have an ultimate good vs. an ultimate evil and not much else. Sure you have the rebels but howany do we actually get to know?

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Sequel area is pure garbage and has nothing to do with Lucas. Prequel era had so much more and more specifically, Lucas himself took a very much hands on approach for that lore. That does not mean he was involved in every single thing, but he did help guide the direction to ensure it maintained consistency with his vision

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Why even bring this up but to fish conflict then just talk about the video ????

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

Love how there’s deeper lore just for the buildup of tension leading to TPM and the clone wars than the entirety of Disney canon.

[@cpob2013]

The Eriadu conference alone is deeper than any of the Disney shows including Andor

[@Shakky-r1u]

If you believe this you haven't read canon.

[@ARVETDEG]

I've said it a thousand times before and I'll say it again... I want a Jango Fett animated series!

[@JCWinters-bu8de]

Same! Jango Fett’s story, especially in Open Seasons, deserves a series. He became my #1 Star Wars character for the last 22 years and still is. Great character in my book..

[@Anglomachian]

You don’t want that. Or, you do want that, and you never get to look at the internet ever again. No matter how good it is you’ll see nothing but “Disney Star Wars does it again, guys. How to ruin a great series.”

[@Freesavh1776]

OMG The Phantom Menace was released 25 yrs ago? Holy 💩 I'm getting as old as dirt! 😂 I've listened to the audiobook of Darth Plagueses done by Fulcrum Entertainment. He does it very very good. Frankly I wiuld live to see a movie ir a series of the book. Kinda like the prequel prequels. 😂

[@ronjon7942]

Oh man, yeah, we are. I was 7 a years old youngling when ANH came out…which makes me 46 years AANH; obviously not too old to be a dork :). Look on the bright side, Maul, Obi Wan, and Jinn won’t be moving like they used to either - well, Jinn’s just not moving, although he might look better than all of us. There’s dozens of stories I’d like to see on film, but without the controversy that surrounds the ‘new’ theater movies. To me, I still think Rogue One, my favorite SW theater film, did the entire storyline justice, but subsequent ones failed. That’s why I’m worried ‘prequel prequels’ would corrupt the 100,000 BBY, and on, story and timeline. If only the ancient Sith and Galactic Republic stories would be licensed, or subcontracted, if you will, to smaller but highly dedicated film studios. In a perfect scenario, I could see them pre-released to a subset of fans that could be entrusted to make certain they are consistent…something akin to ‘open sourcing’ them, to use a software paradigm example. Everyone could win - the fans, certainly, but more importantly, the SW Universe. These are films I’d actually watch. I stopped watching theater films after Rogue One, but kinda miss them.

[@albertlamar5938]

WOW!!! Your videos are always excellent, but this one was above and beyond. Thank you for keeping Legends SW alive.

[@luulasmene7786]

to me this is the most interesting part of galactic history

[@zexalbrony4799]

Oh cool, we've finally got a long form video detailing all the important stuff that happened right before The Phantom Menace. Much like a video detailing the whole Outer Rim Sieges, I've been waiting for this. I enjoyed the stuff I already knew and learned some new stuff as well. Also, 22:02-22:14: Glad you mentioned the limitations on the PSF's caused by the Rusan Reformations. In videos past when you talked about why the PSFs failed you mentioned it was just because some PSF were too poor to update their forces, but the limitations of the Rusan Reformation also caused some of the failure too since some could afford to upgrade but the regulations prevented them, and then there some that could have upgraded more within the limits but chose not to because of their beliefs like with Naboo, as after The battle of Naboo, Panka was very insistent on upgrading their PSF, but Padme and others were against it. I actually talked about this stuff in my own Star Wars discussion video talking about why the Republic wasn't all bad, which I actually made in response to you're more recent videos where you talked about how the Republic had become an Empire as soon as it declared war on the Separatists, which I disagreed with. Despite disagreeing with you on that point Grand Master Geetsly, I still greatly respect you and enjoy you're content, espically videos like this one, and that Star Wars discussion video I made in response to you has done a lot better than I ever thought it would, becoming my most popular discussion video, so I owe you a lot of gratitude for inspiring me to make it, Geetsly. So thank you and have Happy Revenge of the Fifth. :)

[@marshalllatta2073]

I love star wars so freaking much the prequels are also one My favorite era l rewatch star wars everyday including the movies and the clone wars 😁

[@pcb462]

Love this channel. It’s very draining, however, to have to sift through all the Star Wars haters. I really wish people that just hate Star Wars would stop watching it so we don’t have to endlessly listen to them complain.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Y’all drop this as I am rereading all my pequel Omnibuses. Great timing

[@drownedcactus5618]

Tales of the Jedi touched on its canon recently that was nice. That 100BBY- TPM is a great era to write political thriller especially the failing machine of the republic and the manoeuvres the Sith were pulling in secret. Especially love Jango Fett’s backstory and Count Dooku’s failing belief in the republic and later the Jedi.

[@ronjon7942]

Man, this is some great work you’ve done. So appreciated. I’m fairly new to the story; I’ve heard about the Trade Federation, but only in the abstract. You providing some more insight and information on there reason for being has piqued my interest. I like learning more about the politics, commerce and trade, economics, and corporate power structures that exist within the Universe. It really helps with understanding how and why certain events happen, and how and why people and organizations respond.

[@darthmmc7660]

Finally, after so many years, I understand why the Trade Federation invaded Naboo.

[@TaraCicora]

My favorite era, thanks to the CWMMP and the late 90's Star Wars comics.

[@cpob2013]

The Open Seasons comic, jango's back story, genuinely made me tear up at moments, there's so much pain and loss in his life that he tried to both shield boba from, but harden him for it too.

[@ronjon7942]

Oh wow, I’d love to read/watch/listen to the backstories regarding Stark’s agents planting the navi virus in the OSRF ships. Visualizing the special effects of starships exiting hyperspace into the inside of a planet (if that’s how SW hyperspace works) or into a planet, and ESPECIALLY into the inescapable maw of a black hole would be so good. A story from the perspective of the ship and crew that dropped into the black hole would be riveting. Maybe I’ll write one :). I’m envisioning something akin to a massive submarine being pulled ever so slowly beyond its crush depth. So much motivation to learn Blender, too. An animation would be so…captivating.

[@starwarsbane2405]

It is nor forgotten some of the best books take place during that era

[@Stopmotionguy2049-cf2bp]

Ah Geetslys and TPM. Perfect way to spend Star Wars day, or any day filled with chores.

[@PutYourQuarterUpGaming]

Ngl, it is criminal neither lucas nor Disney has fleshed this period out more. Like that entire century leading up to it, give me more! lol

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Nah, both would have probably done it worse than Legends.

[@theCantinafan]

23:09 That's such an accurate description 😂

[@themangomanjuice]

I really want more official media covering this era because it is so interesting.

[@MoggerNChief]

This era is so kino tbh

[@theexpert758]

This going up to the battle of geonosis is my favorite specific period.

[@desperado8605]

Definitely need more details

[@cassivellaunushonestus4927]

That sounded a lot more interesting than what we got on film.

[@cindya4951]

I’ve spent many hours going through a great many of your videos - you do excellent work that I’m enjoying a great deal. The videos on the Umbara arc are amazing, and gave me a different perspective altogether. Thanks for all you do! 😊

[@geetslys]

🤯🤯You've just made my year! A simple thanks from me feels wrong haha. I am so glad you enjoy the content, and myself and the team will keep working hard to bring you more enjoyable stuff. Do you have any recommendations?? Videos you want to see? Whatever you'd like (within reason haha) we'll add to our ideas list and get it done.

[@MrGhizmo]

Great but can you denote this is about Star Wars: Legends (the superior Star Wars)? Makes it easier for us EU fans to spread the word and share videos like yours

[@vikingstrongman1063]

Sounds like jango needs his own movie

[@Redster3]

Isn’t there a new Star Wars video game that is being planned to be developed based on this concept, about 40 to 80 years before the prequels? I think it would make a great RPG

[@KevinStarts]

Great video! It would have been great to include a segment about the creation of the clone army

[@antr7493]

The actual Expanded Universe has no equal. Especially what Disney is vomiting out. The audio books are very well done .

[@MeanderingSlacker]

So, you're going to identify more with works that allegorical to the issues of your lifetime. Basically, you'll like the stories that you were made for you growing up and learning self through escapism is how stories do. The new EU is more tailored to the younger generation growing up and their issues so it might be bad for you, but those kids probably feel the same way you did when you read the EU stuff when you were younger.

[@antr7493]

@@MeanderingSlacker nope. A good story is a good story period. I don't care what generation it is. Why do you think A Night before Christmas is remade year after year? The Hobbit have been popular since it came out, Characters like Sherlock Holmes have spanned generations and never gets old. The new EU is crap because they don't worry about plot or character development. Just like in the movies or TV shows their putting out. They just drop bread crumbs, nostalgia and Easter eggs enough for people to stay interested and be very disappointed in the end. The story line of Rey and the other characters are just recycled from the original movies and not very well.. Get it? Disney is too lazy to come up with new stuff. So if that what kids are getting. It's not about a solid saga anymore. It's how much hype can be generated . Look how marvel movies\tv are dropping . same old tired stuff.

[@bonno55]

Now y'all gotta make a video of the decade in-between TPM and AoC when Attack of the Clones reaches it's 25 year anniversary

[@Gunnumn]

Chancelor Valorum half-assed saying that the galaxy wont go to full scale war is exactly what made him lose his seat. Sure palpatine was influencing the queen, but Valorum seemes like a "everything is fine, just fine" even though the trade federation basically made camp on their doorstep.

[@randycheow4268]

It’s somewhat ironic that both the Trade Federation worked with the Jedi at some point before considering the later events that happened

[@busiestnebula5186]

I actually LOVEEE the phantom menace era where jedis were more like diplomats/ spys / detectives instead of police / generals/ government officials it was a way more like down to earth or should I say down to coruscant way of seeing the jedi 😂 I would love to see a jedi spy/ detective style show set in this area where theyre doing more lurking the the shadows and gaining information in the underworld rather than just running into battle guns blazinh

[@Akutenshi1990]

I feel like one of my songs might have made it into this video lol. around 3:04. It's nice to see though that others are using magix music maker to make their music for their vids. But it's so close to my song Arrival that it threw me for a loop in some ways. Had to replay and gotta say, the guy who did the song did a great job!

[@cpob2013]

Plagueis Jango, and Tarkin have great stories and id love to flesh out jedi knight dooku

[@yoseidman4166]

This story is what should be told next. Fascinating and so relevant to real world events (unfortunately).

[@michaelandreipalon359]

I really wish people would stop wanting to make stories for this specific pre-Prequel era. It just feels nicely fleshed out already, while other eras like what happened between the Battles of Yavin and Hoth in Legends are surprisingly still not mapped out properly yet; it really feels confusing as to finding out when the Classic Star Wars newspaper comics, the first Rogue Squadron game, the last two X-Wing flight sim expansion packs, the Empire and Rebellion comics, and a select few Marvel 1977 comics issues exactly happen?

[@jacobdavies-tomlin1726]

amazing video friend, thank you so much.

[@marqdula9723]

Love the videos thank you for the comprehensive breakdowns!

[@thetobi583]

There's enough lore here to easily expand into 3 full feature length films... The pre-prequels lol

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

Xanatos! Xanatos! Xanatos! I loved that guy.

[@WyattDucar]

What an amazing time period (between 67-32 BBY.) it was I wonder what would one call this time period at least In-universe?

[@blackore64]

17:45 Mario "Mama mia!"

[@catastros654]

I would love a video of the events that led to Episode 2 or one from 4 to 5

[@Shmalt5]

You should have gone in more depth of shadow warrior that was an awsome book

[@matthewlaflamme9019]

A little constructive criticism; that background music is overbearing to your taking.

[@levicurtis6669]

I was expecting it to be about between episodes 1 and 2

[@jackieanderson9408]

This was sweet. Do other eras.😊

[@BrianMerkey]

If Tenebrous and Plagueis were alive then?...... Then YES, that era was better!

[@johnjackson3800]

I would love to see more videos like this!

[@VicodinElmo]

Jango Fett single-handedly made the Death Watch go into hiding. Neat.

[@vegapunk100]

Watching this after seeing Acolyte 1-2, I miss good star wars

[@markleach2936]

Shame this is legend material

[@jamiewalsh3349]

A bit too early to talk about the High Republic stuff since the third phase of the books is still ongoing and The Acolyte comes out next month

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a CoreysDatapad and Vaush fan!

[@RJDaHero01522]

Yes 45 years before the phantom menace

[@_Dovar_]

"Star Wars" was so much better before disney.

[@foochooz]

wow so much good work

[@cerealsgames3118]

Acolyte writers need to be watching Geetsly's

[@cerealsgames3118]

This channel is goated ❤️

[@liamhoughton2461]

If possible would you be able to include the related sources I love the plagueis novel and would like to expand my pre prequel knowledge

[@AhsokaFanboy1138]

28:38 Why? Stark is just a pirate, he doesn't represent any world or interstellar empire. If they want to negotiate with undersupplied Rim Worlds, great, but Stark doesn't speak for any of them. 46:55 Actually, to Black Sun, and then a random information dealer, since he thought the Jedi would either mind-trick or outright rob him.

[@ingwerschwensen8115]

Excellent. Thanks.

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Truly glorious

[@barofluxurioussoap]

God calls you to be a teacher of His Word

[@foochooz]

more detail ZCHAP!

[@ALiberalVeteran]

Great video

[@EthanKironus8067]

So this is mostly Legends? Not that I think it's heavy on Disney canon, but I am curious if it contains any combined details.

[@coggnus9656]

I think it’s all legends

[@hoarder66]

Most forgotten era of StarWars? Oh, u mean the sequels

[@raydasmoshfranco]

Obviously not since u are bringing it up on a completely unrelated video

[@awakenedbyyhuhassembly6015]

Caedus book was interesting

[@Lj_Redd]

Imo there should be a trilogy leading up to the clone wars and the clone wars its own trilogy. Imagine movie 0 then phantom menace and ends on attack of the clones. Then two full movies on the clone wars and ends with rots.

[@glowiak3430]

Glory Count Dooku! Glory the CIS!

[@EnduringFoliage]

What's the song that starts playing at 38:30?

[@franklindegaulle4351]

Personally I would like to see the golden age of the Republic form the view of the sith

[@marqdula9723]

Thank you for this video I've always wanted to know but too lazy to read lmao 🤣

[@shawnkeating3820]

What did you use as your sources for this history? I see some Cloak of Deception by Luceno there.

[@geetslys]

In no particular order, the main ones were the Essential Guide to Warfare, the Essential Atlas, the New Essential Chronology, Cloak of Deception, Darth Plagueis, and the Stark Hyperspace War arc of Star Wars: Republic

[@andyhoude4647]

They need to just jump to a time period where there is little to no information about it so they can tell an original story without everyone crying over canon

[@SurnaturalM]

There are so many bots in the comments.. Interesting video as always.

[@based4560]

Ikr. Why don't they stay in their own fucking porn sites.

[@timwhite5562]

"the prequel era is one of our favorite eras of Star Wars." Yeah but isn't that more out of default?

[@alfieingrouille1528]

?

[@cobracommander3634]

Who is we? Not me

[@jamiewalsh3349]

I hope The Acolyte creators have been studying up

[@alswearengine4867]

Spoiler alert: they don’t care.

[@leonardocaputo7420]

Plo koon goated

[@StarOasis26]

PLEASE OH PLEASE, DO NOT LET KATHLEEN KENNEDY GET A HOLD OF THIS FASCINATING ERA. 😮

[@aurionblackfyre8480]

Music quieter next time please

[@lochdedy8674]

The sequel era should be forgotten entirely.

[@Supyloco]

The final decades of the Ruusan Republic.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

The background music is a little bit distractingly loud on this video.

[@nickcollins2001]

we haven't forgotten, also i will never forget how much you all hated the prequels until the sequels came out.

[@bwilhelm4214]

The only reason the prequils seem good is because of how much worse the Disney stuff is. It's only through comparison that trash that they seem good.

[@Colicab83]

Wait. I thought Jango wasnt a mando.

[@DarthVages]

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