#46 Naturehike Tagar 1 v 3F UL Gear Tent Test - Wild Camp On Arran

Is spending £65-£70 on a tent direct from China a bargain, or a recipe for disaster? We attempt to find out. Get the 3F UL Solo tent here...amzn.to/2UNVuYI or the Naturehike Tagar 1 here: amzn.to/3e1HBh7
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[@hubey]

Great video! I enjoyed the overview of the tents and your little trip. Thanks for sharing.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thank you for taking a look Hubert. Happy adventures. Andy

[@crouisk]

thanks for the two videos. mine just arrived mast week. i ordered largely based you're review. only pitched in garden but very happy with it. wee bike trip to arran or something down the leadhills soon.....

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Scott Wilson good to hear how you get on Scott, good luck with it and happy camping. cheers Andy

[@gottaluvtheserenity]

Great to hear your thoughts on the taga. I gave recently purchased the taga 2 and I am looking forward to taking it on a bushwalk.

[@JH-iz6fk]

Really good stuff Andrew!

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Cheers Joshua !

[@timevans9195]

Great video Andrew. We cycle camped on Arran years ago, but were nearly blown away at Glen Rosa in a storm! Beautiful Island though and we had a great time. I have just bought the Taga 2 (March 2018) and it now includes a storm flap with velcro fasteners on the main door zip. I've erected it in the garden and am really impressed with the quality. It also included a good quality ground sheet in the price £84.00..it took just under a month to arrive in the UK from China (the nature hike factory store).

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Tim, Yep Arran has it all I think. Good luck with the Taga 2. I think they are great value for money and I like the simplicity and space. Jim says so far condensation hasn't been a major issue and for 3 seasons it his go to option due to the lightweightness and packability..should serve you well !

[@MrWildWales]

Thanks for this bit confused at the moment trying to decide which to go for

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I'd say down to the weight limit you set yourself and whether you use walking poles. If your'e a walker using poles and want to have a shelter under a kilo go 3F, If bikepacking or not using poles the Tagar is probably best. A

[@MrWildWales]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors cheers its for a 7 day hike it is so I'll be using poles. May well be the 3fi think

[@andreafluffkitten]

Timely video. :) I've been thinking about the Naturehike since I saw it on Ali. Info is a bit short so this is great, it seems to be heavily inspired by Tarptent's Rainbow with an inner wall added which is no bad thing.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Andrea fluffKitten hope it helped Andrea, you're right about the rainbow , very similar.

[@pshearduk]

Great review / comparison guys :) atb from Yorkshire

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Cheers Paul, appreciated.

[@ArtoMikkola]

Thanks!

[@carlosalmeida1273]

Bike 🚲 hiking! Excellent tent and great spot for wildcamp 👍with beautiful views, yes... awesome day!Great video. 👍 crack on 👍. Tks for sharing.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Carlos Almeida thanks for your support Carlos

[@StregAnders]

The 3F tent looks really interesting, especially for the price. 😃 I've got one on the way in the post now.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Great Anders, I think you'll like it, be keen to hear how it goes. Atb Andy

[@lastadolkgGM]

Great tents, great camping spot! That view is spetacular. What do you use the candle for? Thanks Andrew

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Lucas Jorge cheers Lucas, just love the ambience of a real flame and the extra warmth when your reading etc

[@boredcamperz7548]

I plonked for the 3f UL GEAR TENT, came last week and eventually got it pitched and slept in it last night. Fab wee tent. Cheers Andrew

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hope it works out well for you, I was impressed with the build quality and all you need is a wee cloth to deal with condensation on wet nights..A

[@boredcamperz7548]

Yeh Andrew, it was after your full review of the 3f that made my mind up.. If I could of afforded it, you'd of had a sale with your Wanderer lol. Cheers, Scott.

[@aaronstephens2678]

Thanks for both of your reviews of the 3F UL tent. My go to tents are a Tarptent Stratospire 2 for backpacking with one buddy, and a Tarptent Hogback for taking my three kids. I was looking for a cheap and light one person tent, but most cheap tents are crap. Based on your videos it looks like the 3F UL will do the trick. The cheapest I found on was $83 American. If it serves it's purpose, that is a great deal! As a second note, that looked like a really cool place to camp. I live in California, and honestly we are really spoiled here for natural beauty, but I'd love to explore the wilds of the British Isles someday.

[@sanshinron]

Don't buy Chinese stuff on eBay or any other website that buys it off Aliexpress anyways, but directly from Aliexpress. If you think that eBay is safer, you're wrong, Aliexpress is as big as eBay, their customer protection is excellent and one time I haven't received my order (I've ordered more than a hundred times), they refunded me within 3 days.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

+Aaron Stephens hi Aaron , I was lucky enough to take a motorbike trip down highway 1 coast and then on to Yosemite etc, California is beautiful ! The 3F stuff is actually really nicely made, you shouldn't be disappointed. Atb Andy

[@lenimagrove8517]

Thank you Andrew for your videos very nice and serious. They are even too good because I had to stop buying a Copper Spur ul 1 that you spoke favorably (laughs). I have a NH Silent Wing 1 , grey 20D fabrics, dble roofs, 1400gr in remplacing the floor mat. If I am even lighter with one of the two tents you show here, I will let myself be tempted. The wind greatly reduces the condensation. I do not understand perfectly english and I appreciate when you write a few sentences on the video. Thank you again for your reviews and alsol the fact that you are talking : you wanted to test the 3F ul better, and you even added the NH !

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks Leni for the feedback. Apologies for my Scottish accent which is not the clearest but i trust it still helped! Happy camping Andrew

[@lenimagrove8517]

Do not apologize, it is juste that i am French and i have difficulty understanding spoken English. Leni

[@cpppq]

Hey Andrew, I enjoyed this video very much. What was the light in your tent? Did you say it was a candle? Is it the Uco Candle Lantern?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Colman, thanks for taking a look, Jim is using the standard UCO lantern in that video, I'm ultralight with just a tea light I'm my stove case. ATB A

[@maddogbushcraft1475]

Enjoyed that Andrew great little overnighter. Two belting little tents superb for the price look well made also. Still think they are too small for me, looking at a Tarptent double rainbow from the States have you had any experience with these think there designed for the taller hiker.Take care ATB Pete

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Pete, I only had the Scarp 1 which had plenty of room and in many ways was really good. Just a few construction niggles made me sell it in the end. Cheers for watching. A

[@mancamper6632]

Nice little video there That wasn't a russian sub there spying on wild campers lol Liked the tent ,looks good for a light and quick camp. Thanks for sharing ATB Paul

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Mancamper66 , probably thought we were n Korean spies :-)

[@user-hy4bk7le6t]

裝備簡單+腳踏車騎行! 非常美好.讚!

[@nods80]

Thanks for the review. How warm do you find the MH lamina spark sleeping bag your using? I have the taga 2 and it's awesome.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Gordon, For me its good to zero. It makes it pretty flexible for use year round if i use a base layer when its slightly colder. Cheers Andy

[@nickdean4864]

Gordon---Just thought I'd chime in as I have the same bag. I have used it all the way down to 29* F (or just below -1* C). That was, however, with top and bottom base layers, synthetic parka, two pairs of socks, and only a torso length pad beneath me. Without extra baselayers, I honestly don't much care for taking it below 40* F (~4* C). I will add that for a synthetic bag, it is a real wonder in terms of weight and compressibility. The material itself is also the most comfortable I have ever had the pleasure of using. The bag is a real joy to have as part of my kit. You can't go wrong with it.

[@nods80]

Thanks Nick. I went for a different bag in the end. Good to know though.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

+Gordon Champion hi Gordon, its good for frost conditions as long as I use tights and thin top, my most used bag for most of the year.

[@garshaw8404]

Andrew, thanks for this video. I am looking at buying a replacement for my OEX Phoxx 1 which, although a great little tent, has no room to sit upright in and is a bit too confined for my old bones. I am considering the Lanshan 2 3F UL, it has a lot of good reviews and seems to have the space that I am looking for. My main use is backpacking. Having used the Lanshan 1 3F UL would you not have preferred the 2 man option or did you find that you have more than enough room in the 1 man version?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Gareth I've not had the lanshan 1 but I did have the SMD lunar Solo which it's based on and it was massive. This wee 3F UL is very small by comparison but still allows you to sit up at one end but it's so light I'm prepared to go with it. ATB A

[@EarlyMist]

Awesome test. I have one of those 3f 1 manners in orange. Alternates between the hunting bag (I want to sleep without being shot) and the bug out bag (I want to sleep but if I'm desperate enough to erect a tent then I damn well want people to see/find me/my loved ones.

[@EarlyMist]

Wouldn't mind one in grey though for the Grey Man Approach. When funds permit 👍

[@nickdean4864]

Happen to know how long the foot end pole is on the 3F UL Gear Solo is? And if a second trekking pole might be used in its place? Thanks for the great video by the way!

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Good question nick, if you watch my other video on it you'll get a good idea from the close up shot. Most walking pole sections would be too long i think to replace it ( the weight is so minimal I think it would be hardly worth it anyway. Thanks for the comments. Andy

[@michaelwilliams-un4tm]

great video! what height do you set your walking pole for the 3f tent?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Michael, thank you. I didnt pay attention to the height ( and no instructions ) so i set the mid section of pole to max, then inserted it in place and extended the lower section till the fly is taut ( i suspect its about 125-129 cm ) ?!

[@ScottishWanderer]

Naturehike is making some great tents i have just got my self the cloud up 2

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Yes there are some good bargains to be had, i was a bit sceptical but for less extreme weather options they are good.

[@andrewnorris5415]

nh do some slightly heavier ones that can take more wind. poles are on the outside.

[@richbuilds_com]

Been looking to pick up the 3f but was worried about the space inside. Looks good. Can I ask how tall you are?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

+Richard Allsebrook Hi Richard, it's not one for tall folk I'm afraid, I'm 5ft 8, width is no problem but it is relatively short I'd say.

[@MrSilver261]

great video how does manage the rain does it leak through the guyline points like other reviews have claimed

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi John I sold it some time ago so can't say for certainty, I'd certainly Silnet any stress points as a precaution.

[@brianharley1882]

great video and great camping spot love the nature hike tagra, do you think that the poles are a bit fragile or do you think that it could weather a storm. do you know the item no from ebay for the tegra, atb

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Brian, The poles when i examined them looked actually as good as DAC stuff but unbranded and were a good diameter, i suspect about 9mm tho i cant find confirmation online. Ithink with two extra gulines attached to each end of the crossing pole it would stand up surprising well. My only concern which has yet to be tested is that the main fly zip looks to have no storm flap yet doesnt use a waterproof zip like my tent. That may be why they offset the zip from centre so that any drips only hit the vestibule and not the inner ( educated guesswork ) ! Link here for more: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-2-Person-Outdoor-Single-Layer-Ultralight-3-Season-Tent-Rainproof-Camping-Tent-/232232963335?var=&hash=item361229cd07:m:msAU0EsnBk03DYK5pkdZLjA

[@brianharley1882]

Thanks Andrew much appreciated will let you know how I get on

[@voxxonline]

Very helpful! which one would be more suitable for solo hiking? ie stability, comfort and ease of use?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Tough call that one Ivan, if weight is your issue then the 3F UL is way to go, i cant really decide otherwise so far to be honest..close call.

[@voxxonline]

thank you

[@dakine9445]

Use in rain? Wind? Hold up against weather? Thanks

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi I sold it a while ago so I can't really comment other than in wind and it was fine for 3 season use ..atb Andrew

[@scottcranston6803]

Thanks for the review. I noticed you've got your Sawyer mini squeeze filter attached to what looks like a shop bought water bottle. What bottle did you manage to find that fits the threads on the filter? Mine doesn't seem to like smart water bottles, so I'm looking for another bottle

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Scott, mine was on a smart water bottle till recently, the bottle was do wrecked I threw it out. I've also used it on Lidls sparkling mineral water brand ( wish I could recall the name ) but currently it's on a sports direct litre bag . A

[@scottcranston6803]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors thanks very much mate, much appreciated. I will give some of the suggestions a bash

[@darthkek1953]

@@scottcranston6803 I have my Sawyer on an EVERNEW water bladder. I got a 2 litre one that has a slide so you can open an entire side of it, makes harvesting water from small brooks much easier, but they also do bladers without those openings. The seals on the Evernew are amazing, and the bags really strong. I've had them 3 years and still going strong.

[@Hendrikjandespeelman]

Will the mesh keep the midges out? Any other remarks? How's it doing in a downpour? Cheers

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

+Hendrikjandespeelman hi, I sold it last year so it never really got tested. The no see um mesh works perfectly and the fit and finish of the taping was excellent so I've no doubt it would be fine. Cheers Andy

[@farmerspud1270]

Hi,great review,would the naturehike tent suit a 6ft 2 guy? looks a bit tight with may.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Mm, I think you may struggle, having said that it's got the headroom and the head and foot ends rise vertically so that kind of MSR shape tent is better for taller folk as you don't have sloping nylon touching you at both ends ? A

[@farmerspud1270]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors Thanks mate

[@adastra3147]

hello I really need your help. can you take a picture of your corners of the 3f ul? I need to see if mine is faulty! I need to see the outer corners of the black part, the bottom floor basically. mine doesn't create a nice "bathtub floor like yours!

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

+Ad Astra hi, unfortunately I sold it so can't help although some of the commenters now have one and might be able to help you ?

[@jimwaugh94]

Andrew In your opinion is the wee 3f tent worth having for April to October in SW Scotland. Did the narrowness at the foot end cause any problems with getting your sleeping bag wet wi condensation or rain?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Jim, No it was OK for me but Id recommend putting your rain jacket zipped over the foot of the bag to be sure tho. A

[@jimwaugh94]

Thanks Andrew I’m undecided about the 1 as I’m 6’ and have eaten waaay too May pies over the years. It’s a tossup between this wee tent or a large but heavier lanshan2.

[@gliderrider]

How would you compare this with your Six Moon Designs Luna Solo?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

gliderrider not so much sleeping space as the lunar but I like the vestibule being down to ground which feels less exposed, this seems stable in wind but reckon direction of pitch is more fussy than the solo where you can pretty much pitch the sleeping area into wind at more angles.

[@AexoeroV]

Any condensation problems with the Taga tent?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

+Aexoero V nothing serious so far which is good !

[@flypes1560]

Which tent would you rather recommend for a 6 feet 1" person?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

The Tagar would have more length, I dont think you'd have enough room in the 3F UL to be honest. Atb A

[@mrnickblackwell]

Do you have the internal dimensions to hand? I'm 6'7" and after something I can lay comfortably in. Cheers

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Nick, the 3F would deffo be too short for you, you might get away with the Tagar but to be honest I think you should keep looking at alternatives with longer groundsheets as it will be tight ! ATB Andrew

[@mrnickblackwell]

Many thanks! What a shame.

[@jurajaryn5510]

výborné kluci

[@driewiel]

Condensation really is the worst thing. I used a single layer tent for a couple of days last year and felt like that dead sheep. Although when it is dead it doesn't feel much of course.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

drie wiel haha :-) yes always have your j cloth handy

[@cidadaomsr]

How bad is the condensation in Taga?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Mario, its probably too early to say as we only used both only 1 night in dry windy conditions, both had zero condensation. On still humid nights I'd realistically expect some.

[@nods80]

I used the 2man version in the peak district a couple of days ago. It was wet, warm and humid. As expected there was some condensation on the inside but it didn't affect me or my kit in any way. You could increase the ventilation by propping up the side skirts a bit.

[@danos5181]

Have you used it since? Any updates in wet conditions?

[@thomassorbie]

brillant video me and my brother be in next weekend with a goup atb tom

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

thomas sorbie go wandering in hills thanks Tom, enjoy, Nevers fails for a wild camp on Arran

[@fayleya3865]

I also have the 3F tent, but unlike you I’ve only ever owned self standing tents - and I’m RUBBISH at putting it up. It was such a sad embarrassment in the camp! 😂

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Fayley, practice makes perfect ;-) A

[@Adam_Outdoors]

Andrew, I'll take the tent please. PM sent.

[@OUTDOORJULES]

enjoyed that thanks for sharing ;)

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Julie Liddle cheers Julie, hope you're getting out and about with the wild bunch I keep seeing on YT ;-) atb Andy

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I'd say lanshan for all the weight difference between them tbh . A

[@Thoth_al_Khem]

The Taga 1 (or Tagar) is a copy of the Tarptent Rainbow 1 and only weighs 2 oz (56 grams) more. www.tarptent.com/product/rainbow/