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[@neilt7191]

If anyone has a view on tents it's you Andrew . I'm an AKTO man myself . Had it and used in all sorts of conditions and times of year for over 10 years now , and it's still going strong . In fact I'll be out around Langdale in it this weekend . It's a great tent . I've never suffered noticeably with condensation , and with it pitching inner and outer together , I have to say I can't fault it . I have actually looked at the MSR Access recently and seeing your 1&2 made me smile . I'll hang fire for now , but if the AKTO ever gets retired , the cheaper and roomier ACCESS 2 might get the nod .

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Ah you can't beat an Akto Neil, brilliant solution for just about every trip. Happy camping ! A

[@MultiOutdoorman]

Hi. Thanks for sharing. During this Covid19 lock-down many of us have found spare time to use KZbin and join in these topical discussions i guess? It is subjective ... but there are so many different tents available to choose from, for the widening range of camping circumstances. Car, Pedal cycle, Motorbike, campervan, canoe / kayak or on foot? Lightweight 1 or 2 person backpacking is but 1 category. I agree it is always a challenge when balancing price, build quality, features, design, pack size, weight and roominess (even choice of colour) with each purchase. Nice to see and hear your thoughts from your own experiences ... always good. For hiking alone, i have an Akto and even pitched it on my decking last week for an "isolation" overnighter in my back yard... But as well as car camping with the Missus and needing more space (Redverz Atacama) i have enjoyed motorcycle camping (solo and duo) more so. This has become the hardest area to find the "ideal" tent for (for me at least) I'm in my mid 50's and now appreciating roominess in camp ! And we all look for different things don't we ? Like you, i have accumulated lots of kit over the years and hate to dispose of stuff so readily ! Anyone starting from scratch and beginning to source outdoor "gear" can be overwhelmed with the pro's and con's that face them in this subject. And every one of us thinks we have the answer. (and i'm no different ... LOL) Maybe you could do a summary of "best buy kit" for folks (solo and coupled) who are just getting into this type of leisure pursuit ? Just happy to join in the chat... Thanks again.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks for that, yes space is becoming more important in my mid 50s too :-) when I had my motorbike I was using the Soulo for solo and a North Face Minibus 33 when two up, happy days, I miss the bike more than the tents tho ! A

[@trytheoutdoors]

Just stumbled on this. Wow. Really helpful. You have referred me in an earlier post (from your video about the helium f10 ul1) to the Rubens starlight 1. Am in tent hell. Can't afford to buy a different tent for different tasks. Just need a budget friendly 4 season ultralight tent for long distance walking and also strong enough for mountain wildcamping. I thought the helium might do it ....but yes the akto does look great. "Buy once, cry once," some say. My wife wouldn't stop crying if I got the akto though....

[@trytheoutdoors]

Actually, I think your video answers my question: you seem to lean to the access 2 as the all rounder!!!!

[@iainsharples1433]

I would just like to comment on the Hilleberg Niak, that was mentioned in a post. I had looked into this model to, a possible concern would be if cooking inside the vestibule in bad weather. The vestibule door is quite steep sided and has no hood, when venting from the top zip, rain may get in. This is not through any experience, just something I'd read, if a user reads this they may comment. Also as mentioned, I had used an Akto a few years back on four season Munro backpacking trips. One attribute, it was a warm tent, never requiring anything more than a Rab Quantum 400, at least in my experience.

[@NightmareCrab]

the Quick hiker 2 got trashed on the rain test by TheOutdoorGearReview though...

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I'll need to watch that, do like some of his tests. A

[@karlquint]

Great video, thank you for showing these.

[@phantomas80]

Great channel! I'm searching a solo tent for a long term travel with some hikes not so hard (i'm not sure if and when i'll go to Patagonia and/or Iceland): lightweight (everyday for almost 2 years with the backpack on the shoulders), freestanding (versatility) and preferably double wall. My main focus is on MSR Hubba 1p but i also search for something sturdier and not inner tent pitch first. Hilleberg Soulo, although great, is too heavy. Other 3 tents found are Big Sky CHINOOK 1p, Terra Nova SOUTHERN CROSS 1 (i'm 172cm height but i use wide sleeping mat) and Tarptent SCARP 1p: what is your order of preference? I also see Big Sky Revolution 1.0p but i can't find it in your channel and i'm meditating on Lightwave Sigma 10.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I did like my Chinook. Have you considered the Hilleberg Enan or MSR Access 1 too ?

[@phantomas80]

@Andrew Park @Andrew Park thanks! Yes, i considered both but i read about some condensation issues for both furthermore Enan is not freestanding and maybe Access is not too warm for hot climate? About Chinook do you have to proceed for seam sealing? And do you confirm the initial impressions on the not top quality of stitching and finishing?

[@iainsharples1433]

Hi interesting accounts. No mention for Tarptent by Henry Shires, any experience with these? Such as Moment DW, Scarp 1 and 2. A early version Scarp 1 replaced my Akto ten years ago, also have a Scarp 2, interested in the Moment based on Chris Townsends reviews. Function and interior space of a Scarp 1 is superb.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Ian, yep do like Henry Shires designs, had a Scarp 1 years ago which was roomy and light, but build quality at the time was a wee bit off, think that will not be a problem these days and I'd like to try some for sure. A

[@iainsharples1433]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors Hi Andrew, yes the current Scarp 1 version looks to be spot on and has attracted some very favourable reviews. Build quality might had formally been variable, not certain, never had an issue with mine. Communication / advice directly with Henry is excellent. The Scarp 2 is palatial, replacing a well worn Saunders Spacepacker Plus, sometimes used when my daughter is back from Uni within our Northumberland, Scottish Borders scratching ground.

[@andrewmcalea9978]

Thanks, good review. Did Tour Mnt Blanc with 6' son in an Akto. Worked well. Used to be sold as a 1.5man tent, I note they label it 1man now.

[@thedaftestnameicouldthinko8233]

I had a TNF Tadpole which I never really liked. Horizontal rain got under the fly too easily. However, the back up from Port Glasgow was amazing. Over eight years, they replaced the groundsheet, the fly, the poles and the zips FREE of charge. Only the top of the inner was original when I finally gave up on the Tadpole and moved to the brilliant Akto.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I can remember queuing up every year for the port Glasgow sale, some bargain kit and prototype stuff ! A

[@dr.christianrapp]

Many thanks for that overview Andrew. Just came across your channel and looked this review and the Minaret one - all very well made and nice accent ;-) Stimulates for fueling the economy... Ok, I had a Macpac Minaret bought some 25 years ago and was very happy. Some four years ago bought a Tarptent Scarp 2 and am very happy. Easy to pitch. A lot of space for one, enough with a small kid too. Clean, simple. Very light but so far durable (bougth a hyperlight mountain gear pac, this tent and a new therma a rest, while in Canada for a while, and that is below 5 kilos). Very quick and good answers to questions by Tarptent. So a pity you missed Tarptent in the review. Best Christian and thanks again for these concise reviews.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks Christian, The Scarp was on my shortlist but ultimately I dropped it due to some QC concerns, may well have improved since I had mine but I'm still hearing the odd grumble from users. A

[@y1sco]

Interesting review Andrew given you highlighted 3 Hilleberg tents maybe based on Scottish fickle weather to which I have to agree owning 5 Hillebergs and 3 of your highlighted options, good review as always.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks, which was your 3 ?

[@y1sco]

Hi Andrew like you I love the NAMMATJ 2 GT Akto & Soulo, the NAMMATJ allows so many options and comfort during adverse weather I keep meaning to reduce the amount of tents however reluctant as they all have their special applications. Recently I purchase the Lanshan 1 & 2 from Ali’s Express and given their weight and quality of finish I’m impressed however would not take them up a mountain and have not tested so far in really bad weather so the jury’s still out? Given today’s circumstances looks like we will all have to wait a considerable amount of time before we can head out. Enjoy your channels and varied locations keep up the good work and stay safe🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@y1sco]

Hi Andrew should have said Soulo being my recent purchase and also Staika think I’ve been hypnotised by Petra Hillebergs sultry Swedish accent🤓

[@get_outdoors]

Where would you put the Terra Nova Southern Cross 1? I have a love hate relationship with mine, love the weight and strength, hate the condensation issues.

[@leerobinson4553]

Interesting video for someone just starting out like myself. I recently purchased an OEX Phoxx IIV2. It’ll be a while before I can wild camp due to slowly getting all the basic kit. I’ve spent endless hrs researching tents & find it bizarre that so many are inner tent pitch first. Especially for uk use at least being fairly wet ☔️

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Yep it's a good point Lee, I'm a fan of pitch together preferably myself.

[@Garth219H]

Hi Andrew, I'm looking for a new tent for this longer Munro Ranges, ideally endoskelton, and big enough for me (6"4') and my pack. Currently using the OLPRO SOLO, but its just too small for those winter long nights. I've also got the 3F UL Taiji 2, which I did the WHW with... but it a tad too spacious... lol. Any recommendations... (budget is flexible to get the right tent) thanx 👍

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

What about a tunnel? Something like the fjallraven abisko lite 2 ?

[@HerrFinsternis]

Good broad selections of tents. I hear you on the percieved pitching issue on the access (and msr backpacking tents in general) for me personally that's a nogo. Lately I've been looking at the tents from Tarptent, who are really exploring how light fully featured tents can become. Another brand that just stepped into my sight is Pretents, and primarily the Pretents Lightrock. Really stable, great door design, good weight. It fixes all the issues I have with the Lightwave S15, and comes in around the same weight. I would trade mine in for one of those instantly. The one reason I haven't ordered one yet is because I don't know how to 😅 That and because the Tarptents are so incredibly light. I don't use trekking poles at all, but the tarptent notch or stratosphere are reasons to explore that.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Yes I spotted a pretents one I fancied too, and I do like a lot of Tarptent kit too, that's 2021 taken care of ;-)

[@mountain_del1863]

Good vid Andy, I love my lightwave T10 and T20 tents, utter genius. Stay safe in these mad times mate.

[@xjessukx]

Great vid, how about the terra nova southern cross 1, lighter than the solo, less flappy than the ackto and single pitch set compared to the acess ?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Shawn. The SC1 was up there but just missed my cut on the basis I found it tight at the foot and head end. If they just increased the length of the end pole legs in line with the MSR sizes it would feel much airier inside? Great tent tho and the exo pole structure is deffo better for bad weather pitching. A

[@SimonOutdoors]

Cheers Andy, great to listen to your experiences with each of these tents. I'm planning on doing the WHW trail and I'm looking for a lightweight option, I'm 6'4 so lots of hunting to do! Great video

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks Simon, Enjoy the WHW, go light !

[@SimonOutdoors]

Aiming to, currently looking at the copper spur ul1

[@gordonmeiklejohn467]

I really enjoyed this review Andrew. Thanks

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks Gordon. A

[@nigelshort8669]

Ref number 10 msr Are you aware if use a genuine msr foot print you can pitch inner or outer first. I have Hubba HP and in Scotland have picked outer first in downpour. Lots of nice tents there.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Yes I was aware of it in theory but still reckoned it would be a faff ( never tried it though ) ? A

[@nigelshort8669]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors yes it is bit of a faf, but does give that option should the situation require it.

[@stevegarrard2760]

During the lockdown we have gone through our tents as well and have realised I may have too many but totally agree on the lightwave it’s my go to for hiking tent

[@johnfowlertrailrunning]

Thanks a million for taking time to do this Andrew! I've been trying to decide on a 'replacement' for my deteriorating Mountain Hardware Trango 2, taking into consideration I'm not quite so adventurous these days but still want something robust for bike packing and the odd wild camping trip in the UK and lower slopes of the Alps. I'm pretty sure the MSR Access 2 is the one to go for. Thanks again and enjoy your adventures :)

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Glad I could help John, The Access is a good all rounder and should suit you. A

[@brianrodman1033]

How old is your Mountain Hardware Trango? That’s such an amazing tent. Mountain Hardware has a tent with a three pole design that many call a Trango lite. It would be a good contender as a less heavy duty replacement so that you don’t feel like your new tent is too flimsy to handle some weather because it’s easy to get spoiled by the Trango strength in harsh weather.

[@AlokeSurin]

Great reviews! I have personally used the North Face VE25 at 19,000 feet in the Indian Himalaya (the Chango Glacier in North East Kinnaur, Himachal Pradesh) about 25 years ago as an Advance Base Camp on a glacier for over three weeks and it was a great tent to come home to after some pretty intense days of mountaineering! Have also used the Wild Country Mountain Quasar over three Himalayan expeditions - another solid performer! Thanks for reinforcing my belief in those fantastic tents!

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

That's some serious trips Aloke, very envious. Thanks for the feedback and all the best for the new year. A

[@zdenekvelcer4067]

im using Hilleberg Anjan 2, strong enough.. but i will buy X-mid 2 by Dan Durston.. did you testet the X-mid2?

[@WalkWithWallace]

Great selection Andrew, I'm after one more tent for winter use. I like the look of Lightwave or the MSR Access 2. 🤔 Was quite impressed seeing Raymond's Access 1. Just a wee side note, SMD do a carbon pole for the Lunar Solo if you don't use trekking poles. I never got on with the Akto, too flappy, but it was my first ever backpacking tent. So have fond memories of it. ⛺

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Yes I should probably have mentioned the pole option. I bought two carbon ones off AliExpress and although not the prettiest they worked really well. ATB A

[@1adamuk]

Great video. I'm thinking of getting either the Hilleberg Akto or Fjallraven Abisko Lite 1. Any thoughts on which is the best between them? Similar price in the UK, very similar design. I'm looking for a solo 4-season shelter, interested in durability and weather resistance but also livability. Also thinking of the Tarptent Scarp 1 which is significantly roomier. Or maybe the Robens Starlight 1 for a better priced alternative. Any input much appreciated.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

The abisko is roomier but I found it really stretchy and flappy so noise is a big issue, the akto is a classic if a bit small. I have some reservations about the build and robustness of the Scarp but I had an early model. Have you considered the pretents lightrock or big sky Chinook ?

[@1adamuk]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors Hi, thanks for the suggestions! Apologies for taking a long time to respond. I like a little roomier than a small 1 man and I think the Big Sky does a 1.5 as well as 2 man version. Have read that have some quality issues though. Pretents I've seen but the basic designs don't look as sturdy. I dunno.

[@williammay6879]

Thanks for this Andrew, really informative as always. How does the MSR access hold up in strong winds, say on the UK moorlands or fells?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

All good as long as you add the 4 guylines that MSR don't give you :-)

[@arranwalker]

The quasar is an awsome tent,I've had an original which had a neoprene ground sheet. Traded it in for a giant quasar which I had for many years. So many memories of the tent 😁

[@williamjames7175]

What do you think about the Niak 1.5?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I do like the look of this William. Only thing that might be a deal breaker ( though I've never tried it ) is the full mesh door which would annoy me, I'd want the option of a lower half in solid polyester to cut out draughts come the colder months? A

[@williamjames7175]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors yeah! Had the same thoughts about it actually. You have an Instagram?🤘

[@joolsdeb6256]

Great video Andrew, with some good insight. My husband and I ( of similar age to yourself) are looking to the WHW in autumn, what would you or the community recommend as a fly first option.tia xx

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks Debbie, budget will be the big decider first of all I guess but for mid range options something like a tarptent model from the USA woykd be good if you use walking poles or maybe something like the F10 xenon if not. A

[@joolsdeb6256]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors thanks for the prompt response from all. I know he's been looking at an f10 erebus, but still can't make a decision. Will update when we decide 🤨

[@kc3718]

good choices, I never favour inner pitch first tents, and don't like tents with mesh inners, if the akto had just a wee bit more headroom and didn't flap quite so much in high wind it would be the perfect tent, for me at least. The search for the pefect tent though is a costly and endless road...Did you ever have any Saunders tents ?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Always fancied the 'space packer' I think it was called but for some reasons never got my hands on one ATB A

[@kc3718]

yes, that was a very well recieved tent, I know many Roughstuff cyclists used to recommend it and use it when crossing the Cairngorms in winter, funnily enough there's a new copy still being made by www.backpackinglight.co.uk/shelters-1/WF134.html

[@MrAussieJules]

Im a fan of the HMG dyneema ultamid 2. 530g... fly alone. 500g for 2,person inner. Dyneema is very strong, does not absorb wetness. A light and very strong system, with one inner pole going vertically. Gives stacks of room for 1 person. It is pricey. 730$ us for the fly alone. Very quick to setup.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Does look nice that I have to say. A

[@tomsmith5936]

Thanks for the video. I know you mentioned the Dyneema tents, and yes, they are expensive, but if you ever get a chance to use the Zpacks Duplex, it is truly an amazing 3+ season 2P shelter at ~600g. Happy trails.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

That's a classic I'd love to try Tom, cheers. A

[@fabriziocalzuola7247]

Ciao Wander, cosa non ti è piaciuta della Salewa litetrek che non hai menzionato in questo video?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Ciao, I do like the Litetrek but it is a bit tight and the lack of pockets is a strange oversight. The pro ii version should be good though 👍👌

[@mow-zr6ni]

Interesting and thought provoking selection. My favourite 2 person that one person can carry is the terra nova voyager. Otherwise it’s terra nova solar photon 2 a good three season tent good for one but cosy for two yet same weight as as terra nova laser 1. Great video keep them coming.

[@TheSoloSummiteer]

Really enjoyed that Andy. Good to hear the opinion of some who has actually used all of the tents ⛺️ 😎👍

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks for taking a look , happy camping shortly !

[@michaeljensen6805]

Some good tents here. I My self am debating whether to get lightwave t10 raid or the lightwave sigma s15 (s10 is too smal since i am 193 cm.) I am mostly leaning towards the raid due to the price difference, but the sigma really does intrigue me though.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

The Raid looks nice too, is it inner pitch first tho, can be a faff but not a deal breaker tho. ATB A

[@MrDerek2404]

You mentioned a Robert Saunders Spacepacker Plus at some point ..If you want a shottie ,give me a shout ..I think mine's been out 5 or 6 times ..

[@johnpayne516]

hey pal. Nice list! I’ve recently been on the hunt for a new winter tent. I have 3f ul lanshan pro 2 for me and the mrs for summertime shenanigans, but i wanted something bombproof for my solo winter treks. Currently I’ve just bee using a trekkertent stealth 1 but found it crazy flappy in high wind, even with the 40d outer. I have my eyes set on the hilleberg akto, but now I’ve seen this maybe not the right option for windy conditions? I live in Aberdeen and often up in the Cairngorms in winter, as well as Swedish Lapland regions. Any recommendations?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Is the Soulo too heavy John, is so how about a bibler style like the Lightwave, Rab or MSR Advance Pro ?

[@johnpayne516]

Wander how have i not heard of lightwave??? A lot of tent options there. Thanks

[@johnpayne516]

Wander what about a pyramid style tent? Or even a trail star? I like the idea of a large pyramid outer and a single person 4 season inner allowing for a huge vestibule to cook in etc during bad weather (hopefully Swedish Lapland this winter!). Do you have any experience with either of these?

[@alejandromelgar6491]

please make some top ten about selfstanding tents under 2 kg

[@murraywatson5185]

Thanks for this. I see the Rab Futurelight Assault 2 is your first photo but it didn’t appear in your top 10. Amy reason?!

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Murray, it was the only decent photo I had to hand :-) ps the futurelight assault is from North Face, would love to try one ! A

[@jandal8905]

Hi Andrew, in the ultralight category you mention the Lunar Solo. Is there a reason you prefer this to the Lanshan Pro?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi no I like them both, the pro actually might be better made. A

[@raymondlogister6828]

Hello Andrew, What do you find from the HMG Dirigo 2? Are cubin fiber tents cold because the wind blows through them? And therefore the tent is very cold. Is this correct? Thank you

[@VandrefalkTV]

The fact that the Access 2 still holds as one of your favorites says a lot. I'm impressed, and glad to hear that the venting/condensation hasn't been an issue. I'm intrigued. It may have to be on my list now, haha.

[@micheleb.00]

I saw too much condensation in this tent, I don't like it. Obv the hilleberg are much better

[@johnflannery1154]

Love your videos Andy, I've found them really informative. Now we're out of lockdown I'm about to take the plunge and buy a serious tent, I've been using a zephyros 1 for the last couple of years but it's too small, flappy and I had a condensation nightmare at the weekend! I'm leaning towards hilleberg as I don't fancy the inner first pitching on the msr. Wanted to ask, have you had any experience with the hilleberg rogen? It's at the upper end of weight I'd want to carry but the space and 2 vestibules really appeal. Anyway stay safe and enjoy what's left of summer out in the hills.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks for the kind comments John, I've never seen the Rogen in the flesh though it looks nice. My only concern tho ( unless I am wrong ) is the large amount of mesh on the door which cant be sealed ? To my mind that limits the seasons it can be used due to wind getting thu and if I was spending that amount I'd want a year round model ? Just a thought !? A

[@johnflannery1154]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors Yes that's been one of my concerns...I'm intrigued by the Lightwave Sigma too, a little cheaper, lighter, and 4 season, but I have no experience with single skin tents so not sure. The s22 would certainly have the space, vestibules etc. The deliberations continue!

[@edgarsdavidsons4494]

Helpful opinion 👍👍👍 What do you think about Rab tents compared to other brands?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Built like safes !

[@jessecoonce1363]

Too early to pass judgement on the BD Highlight, or do you feel it is not top 10 worthy?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Too early yet Jesse but I do really like it so far, just need to get more practice with the internal pole pitching. A

[@jessecoonce1363]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors I was torn between the Hilight and the Rab Latok Mountain 2, ultimately I went with the Rab because it was 25% off, I'd wanted one for awhile, and I like the 2 side panel guy out points over the Hilight(however I wish it had the bug netting like the Hilight, may have to retrofit that feature in to the Rab). Hoping to test it out in the snow this weekend before it all melts away.

[@BorderRambler]

Good to see 2 of mine in the mix Akto and lunar solo , I do like the look of big agnes but not the price and also the MSR . We need to be out soon before i forget what to do again . Stay safe andrew

[@raymondlogister6828]

Thanks Paul, great review of all this great tents. Stay save/healthy. ATB Raymond

[@PerfDayToday]

No floorless ‘mid’ ?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

never tried one David, but in midge conditions I always thought faffing with a nest would be a hassle :-). A

[@ant_hart]

A man after my own heart!haha! I’m a tent fiend myself :) I have Rab RidgeMaster bivi, an Akto, a Crux X2 Storm, a Wildcounty Zephros 1 and 2 plus a Camptrails mini hooped bivi, actually colour dyed that one from orange to brown to use stealthy in the woods ;) I just saw today that Hille are going to be making a black label Soulo next year...that’s going to be my next solo buy...possibly!ha...not sure I can wait that long though! Would you still recommend the Hille Nammatj 2 gt for a go anywhere do anything tent? I’m trying to get my girlfriend back in to wild camping..she’s always scared about it collapsing or being destroyed by wind...that’s probably because I originally years ago cheaped out on a vango and it gave up about 2am in force 9 gales :( I’m trying to get back in to it myself, I’ve not filmed any vids for years, my channel AntsWildCamping definitely needs to be started back up once this crazyness is over 👍🏼 Just subbed too ATB Ant

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Thanks Ant, good to hear from a fellow tentaholic! That's a nice collection. Yes I think you'll not go wrong with the GT , great all rounder if typically a wee bit heavy ( but then it is black label ). Happy camping ! A

[@andrewsteele111]

Hi Andrew great video thank you. I have been looking for a new winter tent, looking to stay as close to 2kg as possible, u currently own a big Agnes seed house, its a summer tent and a Robens Raptor, 4 season awesome tent I feel super safe regardless of the weather but its 3.5kg, its a tad heavy especially in the winter where I tend to carry more warmer gear. I live in the Lake District and love to get out in the winter in all weather, especially strong winds. I've been considering the Rab latok, but its expensive and not widely available and the Crux x1 assault , I've not owned a single skin. I like the look of the MSR, access 2 but it's classed as a tree line tent, very few videos available of it being tested in high winds Though the videos I've seen no one ever seems to use all the guy line points, this has to really compromise the tent strength in high winds. I've also come across a lightwave g20 ultra, ex demo semi geodesic, free standing, which is also important as the lakes are very rocky and often impossible to get pegs in to the ground. So I guess I'm asking if I just want a winter tent as I'm covered for the other seasons, would you say the MSR, access with all guy points used and having the special Easton poles that seem pretty flexible and strong, or look at the single skin Rab or Crux . Any thoughts appreciated Andy

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I think the access is a safe bet with the extra guylines and an amazing weight size ratio. If you don't need space for 2 have you thought about the Big Sky Chinook with 1+ inner? I love single skin tents for fast light single overnights but they are not ideal for multi night stuff where you need to ensure you're dry in wild wet conditions , though something like the Lightwave S15 is a great option.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Check out the pretents lightrock or ridgeline too ? Haven't tried them yet but may well work as they are on my shortlist.

[@andrewsteele111]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors thanks for getting back buddy much appreciated, I'll check those out, I definitely want to stay dry part of the lakes is the wettest in the UK lol .

[@andrewsteele111]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors just checked out the presents, look well made , but massively lacking guideline points, but disappointing otherwise they look really well made kit

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

@@andrewsteele111 I quite like the Ridgeline and looks strong especially with the 3rd pole option.

[@ronanwhilde37]

Have you ever come across jurek tents?

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Hi Ronan , just checked them out now. Interesting.

[@ronanwhilde37]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors hi andrew it would be interesting to hear what you think of them and the specs. They seem to be reasonably priced too.

[@andymcc3059]

Good list, I'm always getting asked by folk, now I can send them to this video. I have 2 on your list, the soulo and the quasar. Never need anything else.... For now..😆

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Great combo Andy, I agree ( unless you throw in a wee ultralight option for the summer..go on ) ;-)

[@europa1387]

Great list, you've had a few classics there. I just ordered a Fjallraven Abisko 1, was close to getting an Akto but the Fjallraven was £100 cheaper and looks like it packs down a bit smaller. It was a tough decision ha.

[@VandrefalkTV]

It's a really good tent, and though Fjällräven and Hilleberg have different solutions to things on their repective models, I stuck with the Abisko Lite 1 after trying both. I know Andrew felt differently, but that's what it's all about, personal preference and choice. :)

[@michaeljensen6805]

@@VandrefalkTV i am also considering this tent. How is it? I cant decide between the fjellraven and lightwave t10 raid.

[@VandrefalkTV]

@@michaeljensen6805 Oh man, that's a tough comparison. Hmm. I have no experience with the Lightwave tent, and spec wise they seem about the same when it comes to materials and weight, though I'd give the Fjällräven the upper hand because of their tripple rip stop and sil/sil construction,but also with the 40d reinforced lower part of the fly. Also, unless you're only doing good-weather (wild)camping, then the fact that the Abisko Lite 1 pitches all in one, instead of fly first, is a pro. :) Had it been a free or semi-freestand tent with inner first, then it wouldn't have mattered as much, but since it's a tunnel construction I bet it's more of a faff, then an all in one pitch. There seems to be a bit more space with the Lightwave tent, both in the interior and in the vestibule, hight and width. If you're having to spend some time in it due to weather or bugs or whatnot, that can be a point to consider. But, I've had no issue staying in the Abisko Lite 1 when I had it, for hours and hours. That will depend on your height/size and all that though. I'm around 1.77m or so, so not the tallest. It's really hard to make out how the ventilation is on the Lightwave tent, but I can tell you that on the AL1 it was GREAT. Both ends plus a top vent, and lots of flexibility with the vents. Also, the interior seems to have had some great attention to functions in terms of pockets and hanging line, for the space given. The guys, the pegs, rep kit, everything and every part of the materials etc were top notch, and I still have a Dome 2 that I use with my gf. Same materials and attention to detail and clever solutions. Seeing as they are in the same aproximate price and weight range, I would try and weigh the pros and cons with each design, as both need to be pegged out to keep form, but also the design solutions they have with every detail, and how that would fit your body height and size. :) I enjoy it, very much for a long time, and I know ppl that sweat by their H. Akto's and it's size, but that's a very personal preference. I no longer have because I love trying out new and different kinds of tents. But that's the only reason why. ;) Hope this helps!

[@cavehillrock...wildcamping]

Excellent! Everyone loves these 'top 10' things stuff... I personally can't get that 'inner pitch first' idea, so the msr never made my collection. At the moment I'm trying the budget 3f ul Lanshan 1& 2, but my go to mid range 2man is the Terra Nova Pioneer 2, and a great wee budget 1man is the Berghaus 3.1 pro... just sayin. Keep the great vids coming. atb Sinco

[@nicholasmakin7218]

Macpac make a quality tent. Would like to have seen one of theirs discussed.

[@btryan1000]

Nice review and im def with you on the under 2kg for solo camps. Ive got the Sigma S1.5. and I concur with you, it dose get a bit of condensation alright, but for the weight, strenght and ease of use it is a very good tent. ATB Brendan

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

With you on that Brendan. A

[@mezmerya5130]

In windy condition and winter inflatable mat + foam underneath akto slaps me in the face with wet inner tent all night long. wouldnt' recommend it for anything extreme. Like it's fine, untill it's windy, and while it holds perfectly fine, the inner is all around the place. Would go with suolo/unna any time.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Yes single hoops can be flappy and noisy, I agree !

[@MeetMeOutside]

How about the infamous Alpkit Soloist ! What a bargain ! Cheers

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

Is a bargain to be fair.

[@MeetMeOutside]

Wander Well, that’s fair !

[@clivenewton7609]

Bit late to the party😂 But thanks for this great video, sadly for me any inner first pitching is a deal breaker, okay for the US market in most cases but here in the U.K. with our weather???!! Reaching the 3 score and 10 age bracket my needs are, under 2kg, 1.5-2 person and double skin and 3-4 season, any suggestions greatfully received! Once again thank so much for your time and effort to do this, appreciate it immensely. Kind regards from Clive in deepest Dorset

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I know the feeling Clive, I was looking at the F10 Xenon for pretty much the same reasons ?

[@yashicat5950]

can somebody recommend a few tents for me and my 6ft gf. mostly for summer, but I'd like a 3 season one ideally. Something quick and with some space and keeps us dry and warm. many thanks! Something less than £300 too

[@davids9549]

Interesting choices all, but I can't see myself quitting my Luxe Hexpeak V4A (with non-Luxe inner) for any of them - unless the Soulo miraculously halved its weight!

[@1adamuk]

Oh yeah, that's a good tent.

[@dougieranger]

Difficult to beat the Hillë’s if you can handle the weight penalty.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

I agree Dougie.

[@dougieranger]

Andrew Park Got my eye on a Rogen to compliment my Kieron and Soulo... difficult to find youtube reviews though.

[@havokterra]

Thanks experience really matters .

[@samuelramsay3631]

Cheers Andrew great info and some cracking looking tents..... I'm with you on the lightwave but never tried the sigma yet I do have the trail one person it's a tunnel style tent very strong but I'd say yip hilliberg would be my absolute dream tent need to win the lottery perhaps though 😂😂😂 atb sammy.

[@williamosborne6258]

I think you should design your own perfect tent

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

It's like cars William, there's never one do it all model ;-) A

[@tonybennett4922]

Great thoughts 👌

[@stevec-b6214]

wow - an awful lot of info in a short time. I needed a tad more room than my 15 year old vaude hogan, which has seen some action, no mistake. I trusted that wee tent totally, so a hard act to follow. I bought an akto.

[@anipark7606]

Very informative 👍🏻

[@crownroy4946]

best tent made but not for back packers is =snow trekker tent with a 4dog stove

[@crownroy4946]

cheers

[@bugsymalone1660]

This should be good

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

lol

[@goldilocks878]

@@AndrewParkOutdoors Fabrizio asked, 'what didn't you like about the Salewa litetrek that you didn't mention in this video?' Glad to be of help, lol. Yours aye, Norrie frae Lithgae

[@rockinginafreeworld3256]

Hilleberg the best !

[@anti_fu_yt]

i realize your vid is 2 years old BUT... "not too expensive" MSR 'access2'??? = it's $660 U.S. please tell me you haven't succomb to english math!!! be well... be prepared... be safe... #ScotlandIsACountry

[@nathanrakman5973]

can i have one for free please?