47 out of 50 Possible Design Stars?! What a Week! Top Custom Cards of the Week

[@drkmercenary]

Imagine the sick clip when the ogre master duelist plays miracle rogue semi-decently for that turn.

[@delta3244]

2:22 If the goal is to make functionality as clear as possible, Sapphiron has to read "more than 11." This is because of the edge case where it is played in Druid, they increase their max mana up to 20, and e.g. they go from having 11 mana one turn to 13 mana the next. (edit: made the timestamp point to the relevant time)

[@delta3244]

@@camerondevoe4700 "More than 11" and "12 or more" are equivalent given that we only care about integers (true in the case of mana!), so yes. I think you are right about that reading more clearly to most people.

[@KambEight]

I would write it as “as soon as you can afford to”. Would be slightly different in the case that the card gets discounted but that’s fine for me.

[@polndreka462]

@@KambEight Imo that would work, because you still probably wouldn't want a 12/12 on turn 10 without doing anything else. Although I have to wonder how it would interact with Embiggen since it would increase it's cost over your maximum mana threshold...

[@napho5451]

ok but why even run it in druid if you are just gonna play guff

[@delta3244]

@@napho5451 I can't think of a good reason, but you are allowed to do it, so game designers need to account for it.

[@superbaas8822]

One of the silliest interactions with Felix is it makes any coins you are holding class cards.

[@annietemple11]

I'm so glad this series is back - it's my weekly dose of chill, nerdy content and I love it~

[@aleksandarkovacevic7138]

❤️

[@bubdad12]

Same here

[@GaveLJorgensson]

09:19: Great premise. I would replace Gruul with Blackheart the Inciter - the boss in TBC Shadow Labyrinth who actually did 'Incite Chaos' and make all the party members fight each other.

[@luigigaminglp]

The Sir Finley of the Sea Rouge Weapon has to be a "Kitchen knife", not an axe.

[@athath2010]

Exaggerating Braggart is also a minion you can evolve your 5 mana minions *into*, which is a pretty FeelsBad moment. Then again, there are plenty of other understatted minions you can evolve into, so maybe that's just normal/fine. Why do the downgraded forms of the Druid and Priest hero powers only cost 1? Isn't that "weakened" form of the Druid hero power just a strictly better version of the normal Demon Hunter hero power? Personally, I'd return those to being 2 mana and maybe change the nerfed Paladin hero power to be spending 3 mana to summon a 1/1, since unlike the 2 mana to summon a 0/1 hero power, it's not a completely dead/useless hero power in decks without buffs in them. Maybe it could bump up the cost of the opponent's hero power by 1 if it's a non-standard hero power (or already downgraded)? That might be a bit too punishing for some decks if you can bounce it a few times, though. Gruul kind of seems like an auto-win against combo decks if you draw it? I don't really see how your opponent can interact with/play around it, they kind of just have to hope you don't draw it and instantly invalidate their deck.

[@paulbond1703]

yeah the druid change is weird, it buffs their hero power lol. also tbh the card is weak, the battlecry barely matters

[@addrenalin3698]

As he said gruul would heavily impact your winrate against midrange and aggro decks so its okay

[@paulbond1703]

@@personallyunknown4670 demon Hunter has the second-best, arguably the best hero power of any class. a downgrade for one of the worst hero powers making it a straight upgrade on either the 2nd or 1st best hero power is not a downgrade, lol

[@nathanstewart4131]

@@personallyunknown4670 it buffed because it costs 1.

[@Neirean]

Would also make Shaman's summon a 'drained' or 'weakened' totem, with max health reduced, rather than it being damage.

[@DatMageDoe]

I like Tal'kol's wording, because it's flavorful and makes sense when you see it in action at least once. Mankrik is a lot more cryptic in its flavor wording and that's a real card, so Tal'kol's is fine.

[@UtmostCarcinogen]

The act of Catching a Wave is also perfectly fine surfer lingo as well. I think Trump has just never heard of that term before, given the fact the he proposes that the wording should be change to "Ride a Tidal Wave", but it's fine as it is.

[@sakarivaariskoski7700]

THE DESIGN STAR MAN

[@willnash7907]

Fun fact. Hero Power mage getting finleyed would mean he self-damages even more with Wildfire. However, it would also mean you get Mordresh much faster.

[@driftwisp2797]

Reckless Apprentice after two wildfire casually dealing 24 self damage

[@amethonys2798]

4:57 don't worry about that. We all know when you go for this play you are going to get the 7 mana 2/2.

[@Icetea-2000]

Even with the strongest evolve shaman of all time right now I still fundamentally don’t like that game plan. Way too many battlecry minions with low stats and high costs or generally few minions that exist merely for stats.

[@gusthomas467]

I guess Trump has never heard the expression "catch a wave"

[@xicy133x]

Idle recruits seems wayyy too op. It should be like the demon hunter: gain a 1/1 next turn. Paladin has a limited source of on board buffs so if you don’t run any it would be actually game losing to use your hero power as you can’t kill off your own dudes and paladin needs the board space

[@snakeorbreak6258]

Another comment on Sir Finley of the Sea: maybe if your opponent had a Hero Power that wasn’t their starting one, it would be reset?

[@sonarchy5158]

I believe Patient Strike is made that way because it's flavorful, since only DH have sigils If Idle Recruits had to be changed, I'd make it add a Silver Hand Recruit to your hand, or simply make it cost 3

[@xicy133x]

@@sonarchy5158 idle recruits taking a turn to be summoned is super flavorful…

[@sonarchy5158]

@@xicy133x My apologies, flavorful wasn't the correct word I get that an idle, late recruit coming a turn late makes sense ; but cards that (in their text) do something next turn isn't a Paladin thing, neither are Discard or Destroy for example Admiteddly, 0 attack minions do not feel very Paladin either, regardless of balance

[@xicy133x]

@@sonarchy5158 neither does lot of the other hero powers for that matter IMO, adding a recruit to the hand seems decent, and may actually be an upside in some circumstances for handbuff, but not too much so might be the better one

[@andersonanderson1009]

Kinda surprised by some of these ratings. I feel like that FINLEY card is exactly the kind of card Trump would like for its inventiveness, but dislike for the game: disruption on such a level that you can do nothing to counter it. Like this would not be a card you wanted to get hit with and - for some of those classes - easily swing the game to a loss.

[@Pepe-pq3om]

For real, and it is really situational, because you could be in a match up where the enemie's hero power is super important for their game plan, like quest hunter, or, you could run into someone that don't care for their hero power at all. Whereas the other hero power related Finleys would do something for YOUR hero power, so you are 100% sure if the effect is worth for you to include in your deck or not. Really cool upsidedown multiverse idea tho, would be extra cool and flavorful if he had been introduced in the original Old Gods expansion, as a corrupted Finley, it would perfectly fit the theme of corruption and twisted effects such as Lightlord Ragnaros healing allies.

[@Nocron99]

I feel like finley is basically a tech card ONLY for those cases where the opponents deck relies on its starting hero power (which imo is fairly rare), because in normal matches the trade off of singleton is a greater sacrifice than "you cant use your hero power". Even then you still have to draw and play finley, and the opponent still has a minor power available. It doesn't seem any unhealthier than say Reno countering an entire genre of deck (aggro) and Reno was neutral.

[@perote3]

I mean, it's a weird tech card that's only really good against quest hunter and some weird decks. Aggro decks basically already lost if they're wasting tempo on a basic hero power and control/mid-range decks almost always run hero cards so it's really not that strong for a highlander card.

[@burnsboy101]

Just described a tech card lol

[@Neirean]

"This card just released guys - Skulking Geist!! How broken, it counters Jades out of the game entirely - how could they print this!!?" Why would Trump dislike this card...? He's always enjoyed well-designed tech

[@elaboratelime5617]

So just as a note, Felix WOULD effect wildpaw gnoll as when you have wildpaw in your hand and the rouge legendary that as you start as another class, wildpaw will go down in cost when a rouge card is drawn from your deck.

[@resilientx]

yeah add includes draw

[@yu-ger-bloob-highway3521]

To be fair, you have to play 4 Ogres which makes it obvious, and at that point even if you cannot stop the play, you can preemptively use what you have in hand to shift the outcome so it is not so disastrous.

[@SpecterVonBaren]

I think Trump misunderstood something about Felix. He said it wouldn't have any effect on Wildpaw Gnoll but he's wrong. Felix paints "All your Neutral cards" not "All Neutral cards in your hand" so he would in fact effect Gnoll so long as you draw any of those painted cards.

[@bakabridget9248]

he mentioned that soon after, this is why you dont make comments before finishing hte video.

[@totheR0L]

3:44 Riot art is so good even custom hearthstone uses it

[@brick3827]

Suggestion to change Sapphiron Sanctum Keepers text to: On turn 12, summon this from your hand or deck. This prevents mana ramp making this card broken. Also i want to point out how cool it would be to shuffle multiple copies of Sapphiron in your deck and pull them out all at once 🔥

[@blahthebiste7924]

Gruul is perfectly fine as is, much more fair than a lot of disruption that is actually in the game. It is super clearly telegraphed, your opponent will likely know what is going on by the second Ogre, and they know exactly *when* this disruption is coming and can play around it. If my opponent has just played their 4th ogre, I will try to play out my targeted effects (like removal) and keep minions/draw in hand, since playing Arcane Intellect and Mutanus with random targeting has no downside at all.

[@TarlukLegion]

7:30 I think that Idle Recruits (and by extention the Searing Totem of Totemic Fail) would be better if they instead summoned a "Dormant for 1 turn" 1/1. It still fits the idea, but it also isn't as feels-bad as it would if your deck had no Recruit synergies and your Hero Power was literally worse than useless because it's clogging your board.

[@minetrik]

The fact that Tal'kol fits the Perils in Paradise theme is crazy

[@OneOfTheLoveless]

I love the thought of a rogue stealing that mage spell and going prep into it into the second copy of it into prep into coin. At this point the enemy should disconnect in confusion.

[@0ctaviaPony]

I think Felix Ficasso could pull out the old chestnut of capitalizing the word 'All' to indicate that it would affect cards in the hand and deck.

[@Bruh-el9js]

Felix Ficasso would turn my most hated archetype into one of my most loved ones. I love the burgle support but I hate burgling itself since it's just yet another rng mess

[@hippolord570]

Wait a second, sir finley just buffs the druid hero power, it becomes the demon hunter hero power but better!

[@LostOnceLefthanded]

It still costs two mana

[@slawekstoj1]

@@LostOnceLefthanded no it cost 1. It says in (1)

[@TrumpSC]

It costs two. Transcription error.

[@tranquilissekai8613]

Gruul the Ogrelord seems neat the one worry I have is Shaman being able to easily repeat and double up the battlecry. Get Gruul'd one turn and then next turn you get hit with the Bolner+Jeweled Mackaw combo and you're just not playing the game anymore. Like wild quest mage but slower and more obnoxious.

[@somedudeontheinterwebs45]

Trust me there is nothing more obnoxious than Time Warp mage. Also, you need to play 4 garbage minions, not die, and then play your 10 drop ogre(presumably, trump said that the card would be a bit more balanced at 10) that only majorly disrupts combo decks, slightly disrupts control, and doesn't affect aggro at all. I'm pretty sure it's fine, just that you need to have a lot of aggro so that it couldn't become too prevalent.

[@driftwisp2797]

@@somedudeontheinterwebs45 It can affect aggro, since the attacks are random. Slamming the entire board into an 8/8 ogre and then throwing burn damage onto your remaining minions can lose you the game. It's just, you're probably losing anyway if it got to turn 10 and you're aggro.

[@Vengar14]

that's a great showcase, I like the love custom cards get

[@alexvidro2127]

Not sure if someone talked about 5:11 card, but I read it more as you play the fist for 6 mana then the second for 3.

[@WoodsRunner]

That is a bizarre way to read that

[@crashtheking439]

8:35, what about duels? When you upgrade your hero power, it's changes your good hero power to a basic one, so this would be very useful for duels

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

For Gruul the Ogrelord, I think there needs to be a stipulation that its Battlecry can only occur once per game, otherwise you could probably make a deck with Battlecry copy effect and card copy effects and Shadowstep to use this on your opponent several turns in a row and lock them out of playing.

[@somedudeontheinterwebs45]

Do this with shudderwock shaman, your opponent never gets to play the game ever again lmao

[@robertlupa8273]

@@somedudeontheinterwebs45 I'd love to see that.

[@CardbroadM]

I want to propose the argument that Dragonkin Heavyweight seems far weaker than it seems at first glance. My first impression is that it’s just a ‘vanilla 5/5/6 windfury that deals 1 to face when it attacks’, but it might be generally worse than that. Trump already mentioned the lack of rush and that sometimes it might get damage before delivering it’s one-two punch flavor. The additional exacerbated issue is that it remains a 1/6 on your opponent’s turn, so assuming your opponent considers it a high value target, you played essentially a ‘vanilla 5/1/6 taunt’. If anyone recalls, Tar Creeper was pretty significant because it was a 3/3/5 taunt in your opponent’s turn. The easy fix for this is obvious to give it rush, and it’ll allow the card to be more proactive. You can also change the numbers around, like say, 5/3/6 and gains 3 attack this turn. Or, additionally, you can give it divine shield; the flavor being that boxers have their guard up when they are not delivering blows. Overall great design, but a weak draft.

[@Icetea-2000]

9:10 Did the author not consider that it just gives Druid an upgraded (even if only minor) Demon Hunter heropower? Why is it 1 mana?

[@Begeru]

Yeah that feels like a mistake

[@bakublader1999]

No reason for finley to have druid and priest cost 1 less. Just keep them at 2.

[@Icetea-2000]

@@bakublader1999 yeah, the designer might’ve gotten hung up on making them still usable? But Paladins hero power is basically useless and wasn’t changed either. For such a tech card the reward better not be a sidegrade or even an upgrade for druid

[@Limeonal]

@@Icetea-2000 A biiiitt of a late reply, I'm the original creator of that custom card. It's an error on Trump's part as he transcribed it wrong.

[@Icetea-2000]

@@Limeonal Oh nvmd then, sorry I just didn’t know better. Cool to hear about these old videos again, and from card creators nonetheless

[@fitupan9474]

8:40 Selective Shifting could be a buff if you play Fandral lol

[@DeeSnuttz]

I love the flavor of Ficasso but worry there will be a Shudderwock-tier interaction with Tess if you can tutor which cards she activates in your deck building.

[@sonarchy5158]

At least Tess Ficasso would be limited by board space

[@Begeru]

5:00 does Trump forget about Goldshire Gnoll with evolve on turn 3 being a thing?

[@Akario3]

ficaso is AMAZING! but then again all the other cards are awesome as well

[@TheDustyPeaches]

Gruul the Ogrelord is also a pseudo take an extra turn spell.

[@javyz6197]

5:00 But shaman already has that highroll with gnoll and muck pools? Lol

[@addrenalin3698]

this series makes me really motivated to make a good hs card and be featured in a trump video

[@noragilman2643]

That's one of the biggest reasons I've made cards haha, and it's finally been realized, my cars having been "Fueled By Anima"

[@raharii12345]

Felix so cool. Now Tess can replay Denthrius

[@TheMirksta]

11:15 Why wouldn't it work with Gnoll? Assuming it changes cards in your deck as well as hand, drawing the changed cards would work with Gnoll, similarly to how Gnoll works with Maestra.

[@BlanekdCheque]

I don’t think Trump was super clear, but I think the meaning is that it doesn’t instantly discount Gnoll to 0 if you’re holding Neutral cards since you’re not “adding” them to your hand. The card is a little unclear if it should apply only to neutrals in hand, or in hand and deck

[@jamismiscreant7514]

It says cards added to hand they weren’t added to hand they were already there

[@TheMirksta]

@@BlanekdCheque Well that makes sense of course, I'm just saying Trump immediately discounted the gnoll when in reality it would be pretty good with it.

[@SlycerZ]

this is my favorite hearthstone content

[@DonTaserface]

THE STARMAN

[@DrondaDesuix]

The fact that the thumbnail shows 47/50 but only has 2 stars missing is just amusing XD

[@thatweirdguyoverther]

Trump has gotten much more forgiving when it comes to design this series - he definitely would've docked at least a point from upcast for using an old set's mechanic (not to mention being a 0 mana mage spell), and likewise Tal'kol casting a 3 year old card. Not a criticism nor a compliment, just an observation

[@Patashu]

I forget which episode, but some episode he explained 'if a card looks like it intended to be designed in a certain set, then I'll rate it as though it retroactively existed then' or something like that

[@arifridwanabriyanto9286]

if you can discount saphiron in your hand or deck, it will remove the downside, kinda..

[@arturom31]

It's kind of pointless to coment about custom cards but here we go: that Finley donwgrade skill over the shaman should read "summon a random silenced basic totem". The Gruul should say maybe 50% chance of being attacked by minions played next turn. And that painter well... it's to OP for neutral colossal minions xd

[@kurtgulbro1542]

you can do the same thing with goldshire knoll on turn 2 if you play schooling on turn 1

[@izaiahsundquist6877]

You're not power creeping a card if it never saw play. Instead you are fixing the card so that it can now see play.

[@noragilman2643]

Creator of that card here: I disagree, I think powercreeping is just printing a version of an existing card that is strictly better. No, it's not guaranteed that this version is better, but considering how easy it is to get denathrius to high numbers, I'd believe this to be better.

[@tarille1043]

@@noragilman2643 How easy it is to get Denathrius to high numbers... In classes that aren't Warrior. Honestly, the card should cost 2 mana. Since, you have to consider it's competing against other armor cards like Iron Hide (1 mana 5 armor) or Heavy Plate (3 mana 8 armor) which don't need to be stacked. It's one of the main problems with the original card, 4 mana requires 10+ armor gain to be a somewhat reasonable gain for the cost. At 2 mana, getting around 6-7 armor is a reasonable investment, with the potential upside still being super stacking possibilities if running a minion heavy control deck (AND drawing the card early to be able to stack it).

[@noragilman2643]

@@tarille1043 would you say if it was the same and just started at 10 armor it'd be worth it? Because the biggest downside I see this card being is a dead draw.

[@tarille1043]

@@noragilman2643 If it started at 10 armor, it'd probably be okay, if a little clunky to use (4 mana on just armor kind of will be) It'd feel similar to Unidentified Shield when it gets the +10 armour bonus (Wherein it becomes 6 mana gain 15 armour)

[@icecream-soup]

I don't like the idea of being able to mess with the opponents hero power for more than 1 use/turn. I don't think it's overpowered, I just think it's too much.

[@MrShinySides1]

For the Ogrelord, I think the balance could be just give your opponent another turn after the ogre turn, similarly like Emrakul from mtg

[@Karsh.]

That would likely turn the card into a "Play this to lose the game against half or more of the decks" card. Even a control-type deck could just straight up kill you or at least guarantee killing you next turn if it happens to play like 1 or 2 big-ish minions that don't ultimately die during the 'Ogre turn' and then has a whole another turn to both hit you with those minions and establish itself on the board even more. Against most aggro or mid-range decks it would be straight-up unplayable, being basically that one Priest legendary which gives both players 2 turns, but here it would not only not have the 'reward' part of it, but it would have a requirement to use it in the first place. TL;DR: No, just don't.

[@wallyfarflinger]

Sapphiron seems really crazy in a Pocket Galaxy mage deck since it'll only spend 1 mana on your 12 mana turn.

[@markos50100]

Fueled by anima with ornn from lol in the picture.

[@ktktktktktktkt]

6:28 it's way too strong though? Shaman has lightning bloom so it's not hard to trigger this on the turn it's played, potentially before turn 5 and tidal wave is an 8 mana card which has been played competitively for 8 mana. Similar effect to prenerf kaelthas sunstrider but costs 1 less mana. Because of the difference in wording, it's kinda like kaelthas where the 4th spell u cast is free but u draw a card after. Since it costs 1 less mana but requires 1 more spell cast, I do think it's very comparable to prenerf kaelthas

[@centhegibbon8220]

5:16 the moment it dawns on you every card after this has to be 5* design or the title is a lie

[@andyspendlove1019]

The 7 mana minion pool for Evolve purposes is absolutely horrendous right now. So Exaggerating Braggart would probably be pretty balanced right now if introduced to the game.

[@elbardo_lux]

what's the difference between "at the start of your turn, this falls asleep if there are no enemy minions" and "can't attack heroes"?

[@alexholker1309]

He can attack heroes, but only if the opponent has a minion.

[@vahlokdodov8436]

Sir Finley could chage the DKs heto power to a 1/1 "risen" ghoul, meaning they'd get no corpses, or simply 2 mana gain a corpse

[@arthurroth3147]

Sir Finley would hurt even decks so hard.

[@UnableToucan]

Finally, you can green your cards!

[@masterplusmargarita]

Put Saphiron in your Wild Deck. Turn 7 Polkelt -> Gnomish Experimenter. Profit? Probably not. Would I do it to finally give my beloved Experimenter a real use? Yes, yes I would.

[@TheMerov]

Thank you for all your amazing content, but I'm feeling nostalgic and would love to see a new "Trump Reacts" or get a Prison Trump cameo.

[@puls4r681]

I think that a nice downside of Gruul would be that your opponent takes an extra turn after it get ogre'd. Magic: The Gathering has a card called "Emrakul, the Promised End," where it lets you entirely control your opponent's next turn, but since it just feels way too bad for you to take a turn right after theirs gets stolen, it gives them an extra.

[@baerthegamer3366]

Comparing to Magic, which literally has Mindslaver, an artifact that you can keep getting back to take control of your opponent multiple times, without giving them an extra turn.... nah, MtG isn't a great comparison

[@eisgnom7383]

A better comparison to mtg would be the "Kindslaver". Which doesn't let you take an extra turn.

[@likky1]

it would have been interesting if the braggard actually did cost 3 less on the board and you need to silence it for a good evolve

[@sonarchy5158]

Does shaman have access to silence, outside of the freshly nerfed (but now on curve) Smothering Starfish?

[@likky1]

@@sonarchy5158 who knows, it'd be interesting i mean there is the classic earth shock (though i don't remember if thats in standard, dun play shaman)

[@Neirean]

Sounds like Priest's original design when Hearthstone released - too reliant on other effects for quite little pay-off

[@solamanhuq7780]

Exaggerating braggart seems perfectly fine in comparison to goldshire gnoll

[@zoulzopan]

Félix ficasso is such a great design card wow

[@Neirean]

Reminds me of Painter's Servant from MtG

[@PlainBoredom]

i just wonder how easily that would be integrated. trump told about the game dev complexity in the last episode & i don't know how easy it would be to have 9 more versions of every neutral card. if they can just flip a switch, sure but idk also, this might be more difficult to balance than expected. you just get any neutral effect minion e.g. colossals from your 5 mana spell & tess seems like an absolute flavor win & a potential balance issue idk

[@Fortnite-jimmy2010]

That ogre card is soooo funny I love it

[@sebastiansalinas2336]

There's a STARMAN waiting in the sky

[@nikospyridis9579]

2:22 I think he should have removed a star because remember, it CAN get discarded, removing the downside essentially.

[@rinne-8810]

That's fairly hard to do. You have to draw the minion before turn 12 and consistently have enough discard effects and also hit the card.

[@somedudeontheinterwebs45]

There are almost no classes that can willingly discard cards besides exactly Warlock though

[@renshobo5604]

i'd like some people's opinions on a card idea i've come up with (just for fun). "Thawing elemental" with the effect "can only attack when frozen" i'm not sure what the statline would be but i'm curious if it would even be usable or fun

[@alexholker1309]

It could work - since frozen minions only unfreeze if they have an unused attack token, once you freeze the Thawing Elemental it would stay frozen as long as it keeps spending those attack tokens.

[@driftwisp2797]

Since it could also be silenced, you'd want it to be on par with the classic "can't attack" cards. 2 mana 4/5, 3 mana 4/8, 4 mana 7/7.

[@TheMasterMakarov]

4:50 aaaaay lmao

[@Scottistic]

I could see Sir Finley being used in a control shaman that is particularly strong at ruining other hero cards by removing their hero power

[@pokemonmaster6016]

I believe that it was only supposed to affect starting hero powers, much like upgrading hero powers

[@Scottistic]

@@pokemonmaster6016 but like it functions by changing their hero power to a worse original one. That’s the same as any card which changes hero powers just negatively.

[@NoxarBoi]

@@Scottistic But Justicar and Uldum Finley don’t upgrade hero card hero powers, do they? Pretty sure they work differently from something like League of Explorers Finley, which replaced your hero power. Regardless, the card designer has clarified in on the reddit post that it reverts upgraded hero powers to the base ones, and does nothing to other ones

[@ahmadbarakat7779]

Wish if blizzard releases a fan made expansion in conjunction with the players. like they open up submissions and after the deadline they review them and release the expansion.

[@lettucebob7395]

Docking design because you can evolve to a 7 drop doesn't make sense because Shaman can already evolve to a 10 mana card on turn 2

[@CardbroadM]

Yeah, but is THAT already a bad design? And we’re just repeating it in this case?

[@YourLocalJester]

Having too much disruption is, imo, really bad for the game. Your opinion is that it's fine because it is too slow against aggro... When such thinking is applied to the game, it drives the game into a rock-paper-scissors state. And I mean it. If a deck type wins against a deck type it counters so consistently that the community calls it rock-paper-scissors, then there is a problem.

[@wsmiles8677]

Gruul the Ogrelord is an incredibly difficult card to put in a deck. This card is fine. You likely aren't just playing 4 ogres in your deck so you need to sacrifice deck slots for this combo. And Gruul is very slow.

[@YourLocalJester]

@@wsmiles8677 Gruul is fine, I was talking about his reasoning.

[@loosos4699]

I have no idea how you arrived at this conclusion. Sure there were disruption effects that pretty much won the game when played, like far-watch post against aggro, but aggro still had a chance if the slower deck draw poorly or it pulled got some insane start itself. The only true rock-paper-scissors came with matchups like control vs combo or control vs control with a guaranteed win condition. Those were the games where it would make sense to concede since there is almost a 100% chance you lose if you are on the wrong side of the matchup. This card targets precisely those matchups and gives some fighting chance to regular control decks against combo. And it's not like the effect is easy to achieve summoning 4 ogres which are generally pretty bad and then playing a finisher on the turn where you can still stop the combo is not at all guaranteed, combo would still probably have a favorable matchup but there would be a reason for the control deck to stick around and try to win. Also, you may not realize but 4 ogres is a lot for a tribe that is quite rare, you would need to run at least 6 ogres for consistency, and with the Grull that is a 7 card package which will make you a lot weaker to any deck that plays faster. All of that just so you can have a chance against combo and some control, it still might not be a tradeoff many decks would make.

[@somedudeontheinterwebs45]

Almost every card game is rock paper scissors because that's the end state of powercreep. Powercreep sells packs and makes money, so companies do more and more until they terminally fuck up the games balance and reach a point of no return. From there the best thing you can do is maintain rock paper scissors, because the damage has been done and no amount of bans or nerfs will improve the game. People will look at new sets comparing them to older, more powerful ones and asking why they should play any of these cards, at which point they quit. It's all about profit, and what makes money in card games is powercreep, no matter how toxic and anti-consumer it is.

[@Icetea-2000]

I really want to see Gruul with the ogre gang now

[@tourugo]

What happened to the last Trump's kingsbane video?

[@PhazonDude]

Appreciated.

[@tomdilly3230]

A possible 47/50 but fuelled by anima knocks 4 off?

[@ZafrasF]

The way it's worded Sapphiron doesn't consume mana, when you get to 11 you get to play it for free. Anyway still balanced, 0 mana 12/12 on 11 mana ok.

[@Ryniano]

Problem with ogrelord is it doesnt have good stats for its cost

[@cookies23z]

holy shit, its Gruul! the golden god of hearthstone!

[@nick1834]

The sapphiron seems too good eh? Why would you NOT want that

[@Crusader3454]

gruul ogrelord might be fair at 10mana 10/10 dormant 1 turn

[@Lewis1995]

Sapphiron when overloaded ?

[@Neirean]

It doesn't play until you first arrived at 12 available mana crystals. Druids can Wild Growth on turn 11 (leaving them on 9) and only have Sapphiron play itself at the start of their next turn. Same principle.

[@dragonhuman6484]

You always think hard on 0 cost spells because of gadetzan auctioneer, 0 cost twinspell not even mentioning it? or is this a meta change idea?

[@OneOfTheLoveless]

Gruul the dragonkiller is notably not an ogre.

[@jeffreystone8974]

Sappiron, if the text says "the first time" couldn't you just overload turn 12? That feels too powerful in a Shaman deck 💀

[@noahvburk585]

11:19 It does work with Wildpaw Gnoll, if you have Maestra of the Masquerade active you discount the Wildpaw Gnoll by drawing your rogue cards. Drawing and adding to your hand are the same in the context of Wildpaw Gnoll

[@noahvburk585]

ok so my bad i didnt watch the thing he said next

[@delvechiocavalhieri2105]

Well, 10 months late to the party, but I think the downgrade of Paladin's Hero Power (card: Sir Finley of the Sea) is too much of a downgrade. Any other hero power would still be useful in some circumstances, but adding a 0/1 to the field will only take space. I think it must have at least taunt.

[@Mene0]

Felix soo cool

[@darkumineru1681]

8:30 wait? what? i was sure it was getting 1-3 star balance has its stupid a lot of them ruins control vs control, dude paladins can never work and warrior losses a lot of use from there hero power (shield blast being the main one in standard but in wild its even more of a downside) i think this card is the most consistent "tech" card to ever be made with some decks not caring about losing there hero power and some decks heavily needing the hero power (quest line warlock gets buffed but that about the only deck where its bad to downgrade it) its so strong in wild and standard it should never see print unless shaman is in a super bad spot or they have to never make decks like armor warrior that uses armor to summon/discount we cant see any strong card in warlock for self damage do something equal to the damage dealt and silver hand recruits will need some start of game strong effect that can bypass the 0/1 i even think 5 star design might be to lean on it when i think about it more deeply its so scary and is so strong against the archetypes we have seen blizzard print in the past where sure this card can see print if hero cards are rampant and are cheap and consistent it can be fair to have the opponent not have a hero power for 5-8 turns but i think the high roles are insane and unfun (i can name 5 decks i have played in legend that will just have had to concede the second they see its effect)

[@Nighthawk20000]

Trump must have been in a good mood this week

[@louisdelad768]

It's a highlander card man, thé restriction IS hère, plus ,it's a one of

[@Lutasiren]

Maybe the problem is not the tech card, but the decks relying on pressing basic hero power to win. Huh?

[@ΗΡΑΚΛΗΣΧΑΤΖΗΣΑΒΒΑΣ]

Ok ornn is a custom card Pog

[@OneOfTheLoveless]

Combustion with all it's legacy should not be reduced to deal 1 take 1...

[@edwardjones7583]

1:32 upcast should and just a thought lose the arcane tag because right now in its current state it seems like it would be very good in quest mage and I know that people hate quest mage so maybe just lose arcane and your good

[@RokuDragoon]

The Felix Ficasso card would affect Wildpaw Knoll based on how Maestras works since drawing a card from another class counts as adding it. Unless it only works on cards in hand which would need to be specified on the card.

[@kozmoman1066]

Why not 4.7 out of 5 stars?

[@olivergre1054]

Hearthstone still exists? 😳

[@matejleher]

sir finley would completely shut down paladin Hero Power