Dead Ringer | Full Episode

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[@nathanjoerndt8804]

Hey!!!! is there a youtube thing about the full speech in london ??????

[@karrenmazac6568]

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[@nathanjoerndt8804]

@@karrenmazac6568 hi Karen!

[@janetoyler1743]

❤

[@karenhouser4123]

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@rachelly00]

I will never understand how a person can date or marry someone that treats their children badly.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

Greed doesn't know Love !

[@kro0018]

​@@SweetChicagoGatorlove *and* foolishness

[@maccoll3644]

The answer to that is some men put sex above everything else.

[@SweetChicagoGator]

@@maccoll3644 Both genders put sex/relationship above their children. I had a friend whose girlfriend put him above her own, age 10 son. She blatantly stated, " I ain't going to let some kid get between me and my man." Needless to say I was extremely shocked by such a caustic remark !! 💔

[@thatkidsgotsoul9591]

It happens a lot, it's happened to me on both sides. I think in my case each parent valued feeling romantic love over me. I could never do it myself.

[@paulbowman1762]

My cat has given me 10 times bigger scratches than what she was trying to say her Husband gave her ! She's an Evil woman with No mercy this one..

[@hankbailey2306]

what is a stratch???

[@yellowdayz1800]

Exactly!

[@ericaz1458]

Right

[@Grace.allovertheplace]

@@hankbailey2306 tear marks perhaps 🤔 (just using my imagination because I haven’t yet began to watch this) *Omnia fort*

[@pamelamorris3148]

@@hankbailey2306 if you don't know what a scratch is then you need a dictionary and perhaps these shows are above your comprehension or age.

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

This guy is so lucky that he had such a good friend.

[@sikequan4542]

@*Cali-Girl - Well it seems to me that it wasn't about luck. He put good karma out into the world by helping others, and through Mundo - who was the recipient of some of it and was grateful for it - he got good karma back. I like that. Don't see it happen often enough.

[@gavincaballero6443]

😊

[@tankthearc9875]

@@sikequan4542 yes he helpped him so he returned that favor its why i help others

[@princesberliner5780]

Amen🙏

[@earthrooster1969]

He is a great guy in his own right. Perhaps that is why he also had such a valuable friend!

[@nataliarios1407]

That Mondo is the friend that everybody needs. Awesome loyalty!

[@jerrytopater5760]

According to her son Mundo wanted her but she rejected him and you know hell hath no fury like a scorned latino

[@corrinaramos5906]

Wow Mundo is so sweet. His message to her at the end wasn’t negative in any kind of way- It was actually great advice. I commend him. He is the hero in this story.

[@sandisostoltz2811]

Sometimes I mundo could be her second son.. Even when not wanting to use his real name. Coz her other two kids didn't get along with sosa.. But they never talked about lulu other son

[@DJJahT]

He beat her and then entrapped her into a hitman scheme. She's wrong, but he is a wife beating coward.

[@tamitribbiani7907]

​@@DJJahT You really believe he abused her? If he was why did she still live under the same roof as him? Her injuries looked very superficial and could have easily been done by her.

[@dejuhvu1793]

When your kids don’t like your new gf/bf or are being disrespected by her/him, you listen to them. You chose a random woman over your children. Look how that treated you 👀

[@dawnatkinson7704]

It's a story as old as time! He goes and marries her and doesn't invite his own kids?! He does not get a lot of sympathy from me.

[@amdesigns5865]

sadly my dad didn't. gave me years of abuse his wife did.

[@janetr5929]

I came here to say the exact same thing. I don’t understand choosing random people over your children.

[@TitoJohn4511]

@@dawnatkinson7704 where did anyone say that? At 11:50 he stated that they didn't go, *not* that they were not invited.

[@lisawentworth6831]

@@TitoJohn4511 the daughter stated, that the day they found out he got married, was a shock ar 11:45. He merely said they didn't go; daughter said they found out after the fact

[@FaithandNova]

He was chasing lust. Biggest red flag was her not wanting him around or helping his kids yet her kids receive everything.

[@angelamccrackin5243]

Any time a partner is jealous over your children send them packing....

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

My father has been with a gold-digging woman just like this for the last 30 years. He is her 3rd husband. He chose her and her family over his relationship with me and my brother. It’s really sad how spineless some men can be. I am surprised that she never tried anything like this after how much she has bled him dry financially. He even embezzled money from his company to keep her happy.

[@FaithandNova]

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 oh my sorry to hear that. 30 years is a long time to be under someone's grip like that. I understand your pain only thing is mine isn't a stepparent.

[@Breasail]

Definitely chasing lust. The wedding pictures say it all.

[@lisacranmer8005]

@@Breasail never chase men

[@wldncrzy1971]

That woman lying about her “injuries” is why real victims of domestic violence have an uphill battle proving they are being victimized! 🤬 She deserves to rot in prison forever.

[@tankthearc9875]

more women should call out the fakers

[@fandomfan2800]

no she doesn't!

[@nybsbfan18]

The lawyer only saw pictures...

[@prod805212]

Doing kickboxing and jiu-jitsu...i have faaaar worse bruises and scrapes, weekly, than what those pictures showed...

[@ChellenBobby]

She scratched her self and you can tell none of those marks are in places that she can't reach .. She deserves to be locked up.. She planed that right from the start she wanted everything he worked his life for .. women like her make women who really go through that look like there lien .

[@royaldiadem_]

She lost everything that she did NOT work for. Makes perfect sense 😮

[@kimking5928]

Ended up in the same position that she was before.

[@tchatikobo]

@@kimking5928 Worse. She ended up in prison.

[@shoddypockets9666]

God bless his loyal friend for his quick thinking in telling her he'd look for a hit man for her. Man!, growing up on those streets made him tough, smart and sharp. Amazing!

[@natalietylerrobinson]

Exactly

[@Promiseland2024]

Her intent was to take all he had from that 1st meeting in the club. She probably knew exactly who he was. Thank God for his loyal friend. 🙏

[@AlexusMusic]

Absolutely agreed ! When the friend talked about how she was overly catering to him I already knew she had ulterior motives

[@marivipalomino6975]

She must have recognized him. The man is not handsome so as to fall in love with him at first sight so she probably saw dollar signs all over his face.

[@guerralg63]

Amen!

[@MsDmolina]

It’s exactly what I thought. A Poor costarían woman married my brother while having a lover since before marrying him and kept him afterwards. Then she found another guy, then another, when they got very wealthy, she failed for divorce, and wanted to leave him on the street Without a penny. At the end she ended up with 3 homes a building and 4 clothing stores. And $900 a month for the children which are taken care by their many because the mother is always out with her new 11 years younger boyfriend spending all the money. The children clothes look like poor kids my brothers is Salvadorans. My point is, some women married for the money not love.

[@mayabroad]

@Mariví Palomino so you think she is pretty?lol..she wants to be free woman and LIVE in the US to have better LIFE! THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON OR LOOK BETTER ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE BEEN DIVORCE ! MEAN TO SAY YOU HAVE ISSUES!

[@mariaperry1283]

That lawyer saying how horrible and dangerous the husband was yet it's his client that put a hit on him.

[@tankthearc9875]

lol unreal

[@WhatAWonderfulNameItIs]

And, the one who took a plea deal so she didn’t have to go on trial. No one heard her side because SHE took a plea deal.

[@jennypham3998]

He s her lawyer, ò course he had to take her side. He got paid to take her side.

[@Jeff123-u4l]

Criminal defence lawyers are almost as bad as their clients

[@l-b284]

@@jennypham3998 yeah, but those photos were laughable. I get bigger bruises on my knee accidentally walking into the corner of the coffee table.

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

That divorce lawyer...what a piece of work. She was not hit or abused. Were those pictures taken at a hospital or by Lulu? Ramon should have known when Lulu froze out his children that she was bad news.

[@SewWhittle]

What a piece of work!

[@viper2788]

My gf gets little scars like that (sometimes a bit worse) all the time just from being clumsy. Bumping into furniture, dropping things, etc. You'd imagine a guy like him could inflict some actual damage to that woman if he wanted to

[@R.POWELL]

The pics are a joke !!! That lawyer was seeing $ signs - pitiful !!!

[@natalietylerrobinson]

Exactly, he should've known

[@shantidavid6062]

When Peter asked to see the pictures the lawyer was showing, I thought he would ask : Where are the injuries? Oh, you mean the scratches?

[@nancymosby7369]

How can men leave their children out of their lives when they remarry is beyond sad 😢

[@christieburris]

I was lucky enough to marry a man that has included me in his daughter's life

[@Atlantisheals]

That is his karma biting him in the backside. Should never have had married a woman that annihilates his relationship with his children.

[@Jeannelawes]

Thankfully my stepmum was always kind to me.

[@Ibalistic_hedge]

​@@Atlantishealsu think he deserved to die bc he ignored his children? He was manipulated by Lulu so he probably would have been scared to go against her. Do use your common sense.

[@Atlantisheals]

@@Ibalistic_hedge to have a discussion at any length with you is the same as giving medicine to a dead ☠️

[@emmawhite4418]

When it comes down to it, we all need a Mundo in our lives! That guy had his back! Legend!!

[@258Blumen]

We all should be a Mundo in someone's life if push comes to shove.

[@mariacperez-fondon543]

The alleged assault pictures were pathetic, she couldn't even hurt herself enough to make them look believable ..also man don't scratch. Greed and karma got her in the end. What a disgrace of a woman, especially for the real abused woman victims, in this case she took advantage of a really nice person, or so she thought. You can see the hurt in Ramon's eyes. I am so please and glad that justice prevail.

[@amyntut]

Exactly. And I'm surprised they didn't mention those could have been from her being a trainer 🤔🙄

[@ellanora9]

@@amyntut good point, there’s bound to be accidents in training

[@nekograce7914]

@@amyntut 100%. And those scratches look like they’re from a brush.

[@marivipalomino6975]

That's what I thought. I got bigger bruises from hitting myself with a tennis racquet, unwillingly of course, that hurts. They don't mention if she ever reported those alleged abuses to the police or to the doctor. She was a woman with a plan that's why she started spreading rumors about his abuse. And that accusation about him hitting his son if you see the video carefully you notice Ramon had an open hand like going for the phone as he said.

[@guerralg63]

Yup!!! She should have hired a make-up artist! She has to be a Supreme narcissist to think anyone would actually believe she was a battered wife with those self inflicted scratches!

[@SandraGomez-ci3bj]

I get injuries like that on the daily basis without any kind of violence from anyone.. honestly the law really need to evaluate this kind of stuff. The job she did in a good indicator for most of her injuries.. scratches can be self inflicted . The audacity of her lawyer to act like what she did was okay is just mind blowing!

[@roserocks1979]

She probably slept with him.

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

Amen. I have worse injuries weekly from yard work and accidents etc.

[@nikkihayes9236]

I was thinking the same thing! They should have compared the scratches to his large fingers in a scratch to see it didn't match-up.

[@gapeach51170]

I haven't even finished watching ,but when they showed the pictures ...I was thinking to myself...those look like she scratched herself...and the small bruise...I get those all the time.

[@jeezus666]

@@gapeach51170 I mean she works at a boxing gym. Any sane lawyer would realize that she can very well have bruises on her and none of them would necessarily indicate that her husband is abusing her.

[@deborahsunflower939]

Lulu is scared for her life, but stays living in the same house as her "abuser". ?

[@AriKhuu]

Not saying it applies to this case in the video. But plenty of victims stay in the same house with their abusers because of various reasons. The first to come to mind if the fear that the abusers would find them and hurt them or the people close to them (children and families etc)

[@lisacranmer8005]

@@AriKhuu church man DNT hurt and we stay home the home even though we are living with abusive spouse..24 years on off..

[@kalyncoleman7732]

That’s what I was thinking too,

[@basicleighdisney5643]

That was my thought, too. I also understand that it happens a lot in real abuse cases. But she had already filed for divorce and her pictures of the supposed abuse were a few minor looking injuries. This guy would've inflicted a lot worse looking injuries if he'd done it and she would've had a lot more pictures than she had because abuse doesn't happen a few times and then it's over. It is a continual and pretty frequent act. Pictures like that aren't proof and they were in places that she easily could do herself. I definitely do not condone abuse. It's a serious thing. In many cases it's an uphill battle to prove. But if she was truly in fear for her life, her injuries would support that. The injuries she had don't support being in fear of your life. Also, people who actually do get substantial injuries usually hide them and they also don't go around telling multiple people because they're too afraid of the consequences of having people know about it. She was setting up a narrative once she figured out that the divorce would leave her without as much as she wanted. She benefits way way more if he's dead. This was a pretty clear cut case, in my opinion. Real abuse victims don't behave the way she did.

[@Demigod8ether]

@@basicleighdisney5643 I believe these were self-inflicted scratches … looks like Lulu shoulda done a better job and contacted law enforcement to get her PPO which woulda put him out of home also. She stayed and wanted him dead for his $ he was worth more dead than alive.

[@valeriec3223]

“Police come to the gym, and not for a workout”🤣🤣

[@haleyludolph861]

Her “injuries” are a slap in the face to every person that has been abused!

[@jerrytopater5760]

I'm dissappointed Van Sant didn't say anything to her lawyer when he saw the pictures of those ridiculous superficial self-inflicted scratches

[@taililin8047]

How could Lulu's lawyer even think she got the right to have someone been killed? What kind of human beings he's?

[@faatfaatje7086]

They would even defend the worst human being all for money.

[@camb.9763]

He hit.

[@ClipZ_Gaming_1]

Defense attorneys say whatever they have to for money

[@ClipZ_Gaming_1]

@@camb.9763 Then why wouldn’t she photograph the bruises? She photographed tiny marks on her body that literally everyone has from random scratches or scars.

[@gigiis526]

I think she put her "spell" on him too!

[@MargieRose777]

This man is a boxer and can throw hard punches, if he hit her she would have been black and blue with lumps and bumps if that was the truth why didn’t she take pictures? Because there were no bruises or bump or bloody nose…… Thank God his friend was there to hear their conversation. Hope he heals from this

[@Raw_Roots]

I've been scratched harder changing my granddaughters PJ'S.

[@christinamenhennett]

Absolutely! Her tiny bruise and minute scratches were nothing. She ought to try being smothered and having your arm dislocated and much more then maybe she'd know what abuse is. She wasn't afraid of him.

[@airam-sj2172]

I agree. Those scratches looked like self-inflicted and very superficial.

[@ElaAusDemTal]

One punch would have been enough to break her jaw! My husband was attacked by a crazed guy who is into martial arts - his jaw was broken in 4 places and he needed surgery!

[@cosmicmuffin322]

It's like Amber Heard claiming that Johnny Depp punched her in the face....when he wears massive rings on every finger, but she had not a single bruise on her face....just dark circles under her eyes from her last bender.

[@sydney13ism]

So when did Lulu find out he wasn't dead? The expression on her face would have been priceless!

[@sweetassugar2076]

There is a video of it it’s priceless

[@MargieRose777]

@@sweetassugar2076 where can I watch it?

[@emoliver80]

@@sweetassugar2076 yeah, where can we find this video?! I *need* to see if!

[@Billie_Marie_]

I was waiting for that too 🤣

[@Meela234]

Yeah, I saw that footage lol

[@michaelglynn7010]

Mundo should do more undercover work he was not only a brilliant friend, but also played his role perfectly 👌

[@gayled6349]

As a real victim of domestic violence, I find her lies & pathetic injuries laughable and offensive. My ex broke my back in four places & I had to have spinal fusion surgery. Men, never confuse a pretty face with a lovely person on the inside. I'm glad she went to prison, for a long time.

[@gayled6349]

@user-rr3fo6hy9q Dear udanoob, thank you so much for your kind message. I really was very touched by your words. I don't feel like a tough cookie! Life is definitely getting better, though. It takes time, I have my son & and dogs, and we are safe now. God bless you. 🙌

[@MyUnfilteredDiary]

It's amazing to see how those horrible women can find a good man and good women cannot find a good man.Go figure!!!

[@denisewarner8287]

I would love to find a good man!

[@estherfromasia]

true

[@fancyme.alter1311]

I know, I hear these stories of women destroying the lives of men that are faithful, hardworking and showing the wife respect. I always ask where did these women find these men.

[@GetUnwoke]

@@fancyme.alter1311 they do that with everyone. exaggerate to make them seem better than they really are. "he/she lit up the room wherever they went" "he was extremely good looking (looks very average)" "she was stunning (looks very average)"

[@JosephKulik2016]

Mya's Wheelstaurant LLC: What you're describing is called a "self fulfilling prophecy". We choose people in our lives that to some extent fulfill our self image of ourselves. Some men choose Horrible Wives because they see themselves as deserving no better than that.

[@butterflyperez7925]

Ill never understand how a parent would choose a person they met over their own children. To cause that type of heartache ,for what

[@dakalodk]

he is clown

[@Marimar917]

My mom did it, multiple times... The reason? I think it was because she was so hungry for someone to love her, she only attracted abusers (my grandparents ignored her a lot growing up)

[@cengizc2456]

Yes, I agree. I was a child like that, once. Hated by the newcomer from the minute she entered the house. She made my life miserable.

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

thinking with his libido.

[@redacted2275]

He had the nerve to say he was hurt that his children didn't show up at the wedding when they didn't know he was getting married...

[@hannahriley8085]

Definitely not the only person to escape their own grave. I remember a case where father and son were shot and completely buried and the dad dug his way out with his hands and went to get help but it was too late for his son. That's literally escaping your grave!

[@mallorycannon3011]

I remember that case. So sad.

[@FaithandNova]

Wow didn't hear about that one

[@rainnghell3683]

Yeah where can I find it? Sounds interesting

[@nyquil350]

Umm Jesus Christ

[@commonsensetruecrime9635]

Yep, I have heard on YT the woman who escaped her grave too.

[@amandaowens2016]

If it wasn't for Mundo, the ending would have been much different. Thank God he had a true friend that stuck with him like a brother 🙏 ❤️ 😊 Bravo Mundo, everyone needs a friend like you .👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@chantallvardas]

So true… Also to remember tho, Ramon saved Mundo life… They are obviously truly there for each other & meant to be a part of eachother’s lives, soul brothers indeed…

[@trini1990]

My dad got remarried behind my back and when i found out i was so hurt . It still hurts n its been 5 years . I never thought i could feel that type of let down from my dad. We were always close until he met his new wife now we don't speak and its the one of the most painful things . Im so glad ramons children are back in his life . The bond a father has wth his kids is something different its like you have your own superman in the home😂 theres nothing like it

[@lynzyrisingsun]

Trust me a abusive man does not leave just a couple of scratches. This woman was a complete liar.

[@magentarae8044]

Any parent willing to abandon their children for a significant other is trash tho

[@yellowish1966]

Completely agree.....the fact that he accepted that she treat his children like that show what such "good father he is" 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@gabrielamartiniuc6322]

@@yellowish1966 I agree 100%. Men like him are the bottom of the barrel. His daughter was so upset . She knows who her dad is now … he cares about women more than her .

[@KeepinItReal632]

You say this because you don’t Understand the type of manipulative abuse he was experiencing. It’s easy for people on the outside to say things like this. But for the person going through it, they don’t see it the same. One of the first things abusive partners do is isolate you from your family and friends. But they don’t do it all at once. It’s subtle, manipulative, and over time. She has all the signs of being a narcissistic sociopath and very covert. She has many people fooled like the attorney. She plays the victim and gets people on her side to manipulate them and she triangulates people. He didn’t realize what hit him until it was almost too late. I’m glad he made it out alive. Many don’t

[@louniece1650]

@@KeepinItReal632 While you're very correct about how manipulative people like Lulu are it's also very true that Ramon is a shallow, silly man who leads with his peen. Her children clearly came first and he allowed it. She knew this about him. She sensed his weaknesses. Not everyone falls victim to people with NPD.

[@kleeamd8274]

@@KeepinItReal632 the pervasive cult of victimhood that is omnipresent throughout society these days is so disgusting People who refuse to take accountability & others like you who make excuses for them

[@danielbrown1724]

This woman was clearly jealous of her husbands success, how much people loved him and how beautiful and loving his kids were. She’s not used to being 2nd in line

[@Franaflyby]

Oh she can still be first in line 💥 But it will be the chow line to eat mystery meat and slop at the prison cafeteria.

[@MargieRose777]

True

[@Meela234]

I agree

[@Christina_320]

When a man has a business and kids the relationship can mean she’s third fiddle.

[@tankthearc9875]

pure evil im glad because of video more lying women are locked up , there was a time she would get everything and ramon in jail for domestic violence

[@LivingLife.]

I've been in a abusive relationship for years and trust me, this man is not abusive!! Thank God I made it out

[@Christina_320]

Glad you’re ok. I’ve been abused too. I have PTSD from it. Blessings.

[@stfuplsok]

AN* abusive

[@edelquinn8997]

Me too and yes I do as well

[@hayleybourgault4114]

When u got friends like Mundo you're set for life, absolutely

[@susiepoo51]

Who continues a relationship with someone who is not liked by their kids? That’s a number 1 rule!

[@Emy53]

I know a few couples, especially a stepfather or stepmother, that have had terrible relationships with their stepchildren, but many have survived the drama, and have become a family. My mother and my dad went through a lot of heartache because my siblings from her first marriage, didn't get along with my dad. After many years, my half siblings loved my dad and respected him. To this day, they refer to him as "dad". Every situation is different.

[@MsAnabel1000]

My mother did . Step dad was a horrible man but she never left till he cheated on her and left her in debt. Only then did she try to make amends

[@lisacranmer8005]

@@MsAnabel1000 NEVER getting married.. Ever...no interest in being used and Abused...no way Jose..

[@msjadhav5192]

Agree

[@msjadhav5192]

I would never married someone with kids. I am honest from beginning.. I know people who or don't think about it, or goes against own will

[@gigilovesgod8825]

11:55 First of All, what a gorgeous daughter he has, God Bless 💕 The fact that his girlfriend didn't want nothing to do with his children Was Already Huge Red Flag , he had to see it and breakup the relationship!

[@TaylorLee]

Right and I can’t help but think he enabled it because he didn’t even tell the kids about the wedding

[@gigiis526]

@@TaylorLee People lie. The daughter isnt a saint. We dont know the whole story. Give it a break. Use some common sense

[@butterflyperez7925]

Her father is the victim so what would benefit the daughter for her lying about her dad on national tv?

[@crimegeek]

Ramon: “I’m the only person alive that has walked out of their own grave.” Jesus: “Well…”

[@ntandosekay]

Jesus: " No offence but ..."

[@ruthannehill1751]

🤣🤣🤣

[@U-Gozoo]

Jesus: am I a joke to you??

[@royer_redos]

The only one proven.

[@Godschild9108]

I came here to find this comment ❤ If I didn’t find it I would have made it.

[@bariizlam638]

I have been binge watching your channel. One thing I really appreciate is that your presentation of each case is very objective. you allow the defense and their side of the story to be presented as well. It is never biases unlike a lot of other true crime content where they just dunk on the perpetrator. Thanks for the great content.

[@RP6575most]

What an amazing story. 48 hours did an incredible job on the reporting, bu 👏🏽 to Ramón and Mundo for their courage and the police are definitely commendable in their investigation.

[@wifemomteacherlife7648]

The photo “evidence” of her “injuries” are embarrassing. She has a dime sized bruise on her knee, and that’s her proof that she’s being abused? How disgusting! There are women who are ACTUALLY being abused, and this crazy old bat is looking for attention! 😡

[@granny58]

And the tiny scratch on her back. Whst a joke. The one on her thigh she could've made herself.

[@carch7243]

@@granny58 Exactly. I bumped into a table the other day and have a much worse bruise.

[@rikkblack]

😂 accurate

[@lilygatschenberger8811]

I said the same thing

[@donnamuller6460]

My doctor asked me recently if I felt safe at home. I was puzzled - what was she talking about? I’ve been married for decades. Then I laughed: my giant black cat just prefers to keep his nails and I prefer to keep my furniture! Lulu is a stupid fool.

[@voyaristika5673]

Her so called injuries inflicted by her abusive husband were a joke. I can't believe any jury taking them as anything but a joke. I've looked far more injured after cleaning out a closet and playing with the kitten. How stupid do some attorneys think people are? Maybe her attorney was also "bewitched."

[@Ashley-wu7hy]

Wouldn't surprise me if she was sleeping with him ... We've seen it before

[@maryanne7161]

​@@Ashley-wu7hy He is in there for the money.

[@heksedansd.2919]

I'm happy he's alive!❤

[@showmevids1984]

The way Ramone reacted to the question over the abuse made me instantly get the impression he was telling the truth, he responded with such conviction

[@differenttakethanmost]

I don’t buy any of her BS story either. But he said “these are meant for the ring… not even for the streets…I’m a professional…” Also him: “Yeah, I punched that door. Out of frustration…” 👌🏼

[@showmevids1984]

He’s talking about he only fights in the ring and not in the streets

[@leahmccarthy7747]

I can't believe her photos of "abuse". If he was the one who hit her those bruises would have been bigger. He's a boxer; why would he scratch her? It's so easy to believe she scratched herself to make it look like he was abusing her. I can't believe her lawyer believed those were real.

[@Ingrid922]

I have scratched my own leg like that by accident from walking past branches, or just super itchy from something. Much worse. That looked like almost nothing to me.

[@roberttalbot1658]

Great quality of production. Thrilling story. Wonderful that he survived for his beautiful family.

[@mallorycannon3011]

Here's my reason for pause and not really believing her claims of abuse. IF she was so scared of him then WHY stay in the house with him while going through a divorce? Before they made him move out? I'm sorry but if a man has forced himself upon me more than once, I'd have already left. She stayed because she wanted that lifestyle. Greedy. Imo.

[@ailleananaithnid2566]

Oh, please don’t say it: “Why did she stay?” 😣 When someone (man, woman, child) is exposed to years of abuse, they have a low or nonexistent self-esteem. They remain in the same house for many reasons. When your self-esteem has been beaten out you, you begin to think abuse is what you deserve. Or she could believe she can’t make it by herself. The fact that she stayed in that house doesn’t mean she was/wasn’t abused. Most of the time, the battered partner has nowhere else to go bc the batterer controls all the money. Are you truly unaware that the most dangerous time is when they move out (or tell the abuser that the relationship is over)??? Where have you been living ? Her claims are questionable bc her “injuries” are minor and easily self-inflicted. Battered women often have bruises in various stages of healing all over their body. Fractured fingers. One had a fractured humorous (a “spiral” fracture) after her husband violently twisted her arm behind her back. Another woman had a fractured skull after being hit in the back of the head with a (police issue) MagLite flashlight. While Lulu could very well have experienced relationship violence, the classic indicia aren’t there. Ramon didn’t cut her off from her support systems. He didn’t cut off her access to money & transportation. For example, she was able to go to the ATM to withdraw a sizable sum of cash for the down payment for the hitman. Bottom line: her situation lacks the coercive control which is the core of domestic abuse. And what of his first wife? Abusers are serial offenders. If Ramon abused LuLu, it’s almost certain that there was violence in his first marriage. There was no mention of it here. Never dismiss claims of domestic violence bc “she stayed.” After 40 years of public awareness, I can’t believe anyone would still say that.

[@lynzyrisingsun]

Exactly

[@Romans-10-9-13]

His first mistake was marrying someone name Lulu.

[@msjadhav5192]

😂 yesssss

[@anitastodolak9882]

So true! Lulu is LOCA! LOL!

[@joannamcpeak7531]

That tiny little bruise on her knee 🤣

[@kentuky1233]

We all need a friend like Mundo. Homie got your back.

[@emiliestratman4153]

FULL EPISODE.....Well that was about time....from here in FRANCE....thanks so much !!!

[@nicholasschoonbeck6866]

I have to say, as a fighter, as a man who has helped women get out of abusive relationships, not of those "wounds" look like abuse. I've known men who have gotten out of abuse claims by scratching themselves, so the skin reacts, like hives, & it looks like they were attacked. And there are many, many women & men in abusive relationships that can't leave or are afraid to leave, but she seems like she could leave any time she wanted.

[@lisacranmer8005]

I LEFT real quick..when I was with the car and no one was there...ran with my cat...after 24 years of lies and abuse with secrets and being controlled by meds and even called my job to stay home..what happens in the dark will come out to the light no one can mock Jeh God..

[@granny58]

She wanted his money

[@bigmiim8584]

@@lisacranmer8005why did it take 24hr are

[@bigmiim8584]

@@lisacranmer8005years

[@patrickjm3487]

Very brave man and a gentleman at the same time!! It’s A very lucky thing that his mate heard her talking about killing him what a very evil person and ended up in jail and everything taken back off her was the right medicine for her and she had it all in her hands God bless you sir 😊

[@picilocarnal]

I’m a woman. I used to think that ALL women were saints compared to men. I don’t think that anymore. Believing ALL women automatically just because they’re women is as wrong as not believing them just because they’re women.😢

[@BhloodBhlood]

Why did 21 people like this

[@korina2662]

Very lucky 🍀 or God's plan

[@judedonnelly4100]

They invented full stops.. YOU NEED to use them..

[@hazeleyes449]

@@picilocarnal Amber Heard comes to mind. She is such a liar!

[@daryldixon3685]

She’s evil! And only 20 years? That’s crazy! She lied about everything

[@adriedrake8605]

How sad! How could a woman love you but not love your children? Unexcusable! Im so glad he's safe and his children. God bless him ✝️

[@jennypham3998]

She didnt love him. She loved his money. She had a plan to alienate him from his kids so she can have all his money.

[@stepcollazo8134]

She would pretend in the beginning then she knew she trapped him and got what she wanted

[@ileanamuntean7338]

All these guys say: "I am/was married to a beautiful lady"....never to someone kind, intelligent, cultured, educated, someone with integrity. It shows their priority and after the events, they are "surprised" that their wives, girlfriends are horrible and mercenary.

[@ad6417]

Yeah it's really superficial. Not to mention Beauty and virtue almost never come in the same package

[@aloycemahaligewi7976]

This is a good point. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@maryanne7161]

​@@ad6417 Also, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I honestly didn't find her any great shakes at all!

[@ShimaS-0079]

Being so called educated is not great attribute

[@VanessaVasquez09]

💯

[@ericwilkinson9447]

This comment is for the defense attorney.. 'Are you seriously trying to say that she was the victim'!!!! HELLO!! oh I forgot.. you're a lawyer $$$$$

[@gabrielamartiniuc6322]

What kind of man allows a woman to ruin his relationship with his own children is a desperate man in my opinion and a terrible father. Any Man that has an issue with MY KIDS?? He is a goner !! I have zero sympathy for him because he literally stopped caring about his own daughter when he met this woman. I have zero respect.

[@louniece1650]

💯‼️

[@butterflyperez7925]

Exactly

[@terredee]

He was thinking with his little head. Doubt he’ll make that mistake again.

[@lisacranmer8005]

Most do..

[@jay4you853]

Well you don't know the full story plus the daughter have moved on...so who do you think you are to hold grudges against him?

[@YochevedDesigns]

Mundo is the best friend you could ever want. Soso literally owes his life to him!

[@kenberry8504]

Everyone needs a friend like Mundo.

[@heidibrinkley4865]

How can the lawyer and reporter keep a straight face when looking at those abuse pictures.

[@bfactality1797]

She absolutely put those marks on herself... She saw a meal ticket all fell head first all in... greed.

[@ev500sam]

If she was indeed in fear of her life, she wouldn’t have been sharing a house with him.

[@MoroMoro1]

Wow, the fact that they recorded everything and faked the death is amazing.

[@stilleve757]

She was in fear for her life but stayed in the house?! WHAT?!

[@amoshtael1844]

Good one!! Incredible plan - he really looked DEAD! Thanks! Munro was a REAL FRIEND! Glad for his continued success as an author, & for Ramon as a speaker!

[@alison4316]

Why, if Lulu was scared of him, did she stay in the same home? The scratches on her legs and arms look like "someone" scraped her own nails down her thigh 🙄

[@orlalolo4585]

And men don't scrape like that boxers definitely don't have long fingernails to do that....

[@TheDriftwoodlover]

I’ve scratched myself like that many times due to itchy skin so I know they’re easy to self inflict without much pressure

[@granny58]

Agree

[@shantidavid6062]

​@@TheDriftwoodloverI have itchy skin, too. I use to wake up with scratches all over from scratching. And I have pretty short nails.

[@Ceci_et_Cela]

Those scratches look like they were done with a back scratcher. I’ve never seen anyone trying to force anyone on any part of their body with their fingers so close together. Who does that? I think the scratches would be a little farther apart.

[@SueP-D]

Girl I leave scratches worse than that when I itch MYSELF 🤣🤣🤣. She’s a joke

[@LindysEpiphany]

Definitely faked! She scratched herself.

[@lizperry601]

Not to mention he punched a hole in the wall. He was so abusive, why didn't he punch her instead?? She was so afraid of him she stayed in the same home after divorce... sure thing! She was after his $$$$

[@lisacranmer8005]

@@lizperry601 my x punched wall because of the teens...then got mad at me..lier played victim...said he treated me like a QUEEN...what happens in the dark will come out to the light no one can mock Jeh God..

[@sunfirelotus88.4ire8]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1976ondy]

can we give that friend living a troubling street life a 5+ STARS , some brothers are underrated

[@mehardin]

Lulu was his second wife. Why didn't anybody talk to the first wife to find out if he had a history of physical abuse?

[@dicey8928]

Why would you stay in a violent house especially with all those self induced scratches .

[@donna4047]

Evil. You cannot divide parents and their kids and think that it's going to go well. Laziness? Wasn't she a single mother from Mexico looking for a comeuppance? As soon as I heard "she's doing the books" I knew there was going to be missing money too. Evil

[@craftycriminalistwithms.z3053]

Idk, I think these types of men and women come from every nation, area, and all kinds of different backgrounds, since you’re saying her being “… (a something,) divorced and from Mexico” has anything to do with what happened. Unless I’m just reading what you wrote the wrong way, if so I apologize in advance.

[@donna4047]

@@craftycriminalistwithms.z3053 ok I dunno why I'm doing this but here I go. I am not one of these people who thinks that every word that comes out of someone's mouth had some "hidden meaning" and neither do I speak that way. I said she was a single mother from Mexico looking for a comeuppance because that's exactly who and what she was and where she was from. Mexico is a very poor country and single mothers from Mexico do not get HUD,FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE STIPENDS,THEY STARVE THERE. Those are the facts and that's simply exactly what I meant,the facts. You are trying to insinuate that I intend some kind of subterfuge,as though I'm speaking I'll of her because she's Mexican??. Is that it? Don't go there w me. I'm not a teenager kid and I'm also not one pf these whackadoodles who will entertain you.yoi do not know me from a can of paint and my words mean what I SAY THEY MEAN not WHAT YOU SAY THEY MEAN.

[@murlthomas2243]

I’ve worked with women whose husbands were abusive. Her “injuries” were self inflicted and not serious in the least. I have picked up worse working. I hope she serves every bit of that 20 years.

[@KushDragon420]

In 2016 i was robbed, hit in thr head with a bat, put in a trunk and buried alive. (Played dead in the trunk)and i dug myself out of a shallow grave. You are the not the only man alive to get out of his own grave. You should have seen the look on their faces 2 weeks later when they saw me walking around downtown again.

[@christinewavinya3978]

Cheeei tell us more 😂but thanks God u are here

[@cecillec2331]

That lady was something else. Lucky for this guy to have a faithful friend. He needs to watch his back for when she gets out of jail. He should watch out for that son of hers as well. A family of thugs.

[@peacefulpatriots]

Starting to think that in order to become a defense attorney, one must relinquish any common sense within their possession

[@ericaz1458]

Lol I was thinking the same thing. You've gotta be a pro at cognitive dissonance. Just totally avoid all ration thinking

[@pmccoy8924]

As messed up as any rational thinking person thinks it is to defense absolute nonsense, it is their job. It happens each and everyday across the country. Client attorney privilege keeps this bond. Free and fair trial is in the Constitution.

[@9sheri9]

@peacefulpatriots Perhaps you don't realize that not all defense cases are like the ones shown on 48 Hrs or the news. If you are ever innocent & in need of defense, you'd probably think differently.

[@peacefulpatriots]

@@9sheri9 😂did you watch the video???! Must be a corrupt defense attorney🖕

[@9sheri9]

@@peacefulpatriots Don't get confused here, I'm totally not taking up for her specific lawyer -- he's pretty lame, also not the worst I've seen. Just making the point that not all defense attorneys are like the asshats we see portrayed in 48 hours. Defense is an incredibly important facet to our very flawed system. As a side note, if you want to see some of the *worst* defense attorneys in US history, watch the raw trial for Chandler Harrelson. They were truly laughable.

[@namelessgrace6319]

48 hours has always been my favorite. Dateline is also really good, but can't stand 2020.

[@annmclpc]

My husband and his paramour did a contract on my life. I ended up sneaking my kids out of Dallas and went to his family’s house in another city. From there I made necessary changes and never got to go home again. My husband plotted to have poachers shot me years before this final event. Thiis happened almost 40 years ago. My kids have been seriously damaged emotionally. The youngest who was only 8 at the time has had a tortured life and I have as well. The older two have done well but the abandonment has harmed them fundamentally. It haunts me that I lived with a man for 20 years who hated me and wanted me dead and not til the very end did I see it so clearly. The neglect that I suffered over those 20 years ruined my chance to have love at all. I wish I had had someone to help expose this. It was more than a one man operation. I feel there must have been drug money flowing and some powerful folks involved

[@petroonajourney3503]

I am so glad for Ramon that he has such a loyal and quick thinking friend on his side, I am of the opinion that the poor man was munipulated from the very start. Love can really blind us. Thank goodness Lulu was caught, I really hope that whoever crosses paths with her can recognise her from this video. Thank you @48Hours.

[@doctorshell7118]

She was a personal trainer at a boxing club. She could have easily gotten those marks from her job. It’s too bad that the interviewer didn’t push back on this at least a little.

[@gigilovesgod8825]

Unbelievable 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼 How Opportunist Evil She Is!!! Because of women like her, Real Good Women Are Alone!!!

[@ailleananaithnid2566]

Maybe they can’t “ find a good man” bc they are too preachy. Not everyone is attracted to Bible thumpers. People who push religion down the throats of others aren’t exactly in demand.

[@sharpedge3355]

True dat x 100

[@misskeirstin6355]

Tell me you’re single without telling me you’re single 😂 😂

[@TheRealdal]

@@ailleananaithnid2566 why do you think the post had anything to do with religion or bible thumping? I can’t extrapolate that from the poster’s comment

[@drewbranch7700]

When you think you are smart,but you’re outsmarted!😂

[@katherinebergdahl2669]

Go Ramon! What a resilient guy. He took it all in stride

[@michaelvitiello9960]

That's totally messed up that the police department did nothing when they went to them with the info about his wife hiring a hit man. So messed up. Shame on that police department!!!!!

[@mamiemonrovia7654]

Umm.. There is a real problem when the grown kids won't attend the wedding. she married my Dad and 16 months later, after he got her out of the house when she went to a seminar out of state he filed. A Sable blanket bought in Russia, diamonds and the like went with her on this "seminar" and were never seen again. Yes, he ended up paying her alimony after a 16-mo marriage. OMG. Did I mention she was physically abusive? When I asked why he married her despite all the warning bells he said that He just wanted to make her happy..

[@littlegirllost2654]

Men are physical creatures, they always want a piece of tail that looks good. He wanted to make himself happy

[@louniece1650]

While I'm very glad he's alive, I can't stand men like Ramon in terms of willingly forsaking their relationship with their children in the name of new poonony.

[@nataschaadama9363]

Poonony…😂….are you from Suriname by any chance? We call it poennieee….same pronunciation

[@January.]

I couldn't find "poonony" in any English language dictionary.

[@Southamericangirl42]

@January Poonany. But it's not really English.

[@Southamericangirl42]

@nataschaadama9363 I've seen it spelled without the second n though. Unless you just added all the extra letters for effect? My gran used to call it poenemeisje. Such weird stuff.

[@heidibrinkley4865]

Self inflicted “wounds”. I’ve had worse just walking around the house.

[@vb9043]

Well done Mundo. All respect to you. You can see Ramon tried to get the phone away. That was not hitting him

[@candicetaylor2043]

Omg Ramone's children is beautiful... love their smiles... so glad Mundo was there... God is good

[@luciac9123]

What a conniving two-bit person! Somehow I had the feeling, as soon as I saw her, that something not right about her. A truly good woman would have loved & respected him & his kids. She would have been a perfect fit. I believe him. I hope he finds a wonderful woman who will be the best thing that ever happens to him!

[@BehindTheCurtain_Truth]

Such a satisfying outcome. Poetic justice.

[@hibiscustea13]

A bunch of law enforcement men huddled around a laptop watching KZbin makeup tutorials is absolutely making my day 😭

[@hmonggodmother7154]

Watching this made me so sad. I have an American guy friend that went to Mexico and met a Mexican waitress and fell head over heels in love with her. Married her. Brought her here. Had to 2 daughters. Builded new homes for families back in Mexico. Brought her family members to American. Started cleaning business for her brothers here. Later she filed for divorced and her claims was he worked too much n didn't give her enough attention. She walked of with half of everything he worked so hard for and left him almost an empty shell. I guess a lot of people out there wants the American dream but some are just ruthless.

[@nansealove9000]

The only person to defend her was her defense lawyer who said he “saw her crying and felt her desperation” he should know guilty people cry and feel desperate. And he said “she never got to tell her story” she chose to not tell her story because she took a pea deal.

[@roberttalbot1658]

Ramon best be really careful. There's a chance that her son will eventually plot to finish what she started. Revenge can simmer in someone's heart, like festering poison.

[@YaLittleFriend]

Facts

[@sdriza]

yep

[@loyaldogpublishingllc915]

Sociopaths always have to slander first, its part of their plan, to justify the means!

[@manuelamootsy6871]

She saw easy money, and thought it was hers. NONE OF THAT WAS HERS!!!!!

[@sing2me]

Her attorney needs to learn from this that the way she played the victim that tugged at his heart was a huge red flag of narcissism and a psychopath.

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

Seriously, no one keeps a gun under their pillow. You put it within reach but NOT under the pillow you sleep on.